Sixfiguresmart:
Good point. That allah is not a name. You get the point now? The allah is similar to Elohim. And it ir a title, not a name. The name of the Jewish elohim is YaHweh which in English is translatedJehovah. So, what is the name of your allah? This is where it gets interesting.

This is where i broke off from al masjidun. Cos I kept asking for the name of allah and no one knows. They kept reiterating 99 titles. I was teaching your saudi mullahs the name of the Jewish God but their allah remaind nameless. Do you know why? Because his name is Hubal. They do not want to tell you because he is the chief allah of the Kaaba. He is the one that Mohammed's grandfather could have sacrificed Mohammed's father to. He accepts sacrifice of babies.

So, since you argue that Elohim and allah mean God, then the elohim of the Israelites was Jehovah. Who now is the allah of the quran?

Sixfiguresmart:
This is why I told you that you are not a real muslim.

Post the arabic quran here and see how far Arabs have deceived you.

The word translated as chastity means vagina in arabic.

There is no mention of Gabriel in the Arabic quran. T[b]hrough Gabriel[/b] is a deceitful introduction to deceive non Arabic speakers. It is not found in the arabic quran.

I dare you to post the arabic verse of that quran. You will never ever listen to those mullahs again.

That is why the arabs still calls you black Muslims abeed. Meaning slave till today.

You are like a dog who thinks its leash is a toy.

smachboss01:


Allah means God in Arabic not Hebrew

Sixfiguresmart:
surah 21:91 And ˹remember˺ the one who guarded her vagina, so We blew into her our spirit, making her and her son a sign for the worlds

Sixfiguresmart:
Accordingly to the bible, it was a providential outworking of the holy spirit. God does not need to blow anything. Jesus was simply transfered into Mary's womb when the holy spirit overshadowed her.

Logically, the breath could have been in the nostril like it was with Adam even if it were to have been blown.

Sixfiguresmart:
That almighty God says that he is US. Are you blind not to see it?

That almighty God says that he is WE. Are your brains totally inundated that you cannot use them?

The almighty God that has been resurrecting people up from the time of Israelites is the same one alone who has the power to raise anyone from death. why would a new allah have the power. if you need the God who raises up from death, consult the old one who has proved resurrection possible from time heretofore.

why do you accept another God when you have seen that allah was not there where Elijah performed resurrection? why do you accept another allah when you know that Jesus had performed these signs by the power of the almighty God who existed before allah was formed by mohamd in the Hubal temple, Kaaba?

Sixfiguresmart:


exlain why allah would stoop so low to the vagina of a woman to blow his spirit into it.

Sixfiguresmart:
surah 2:76 When they meet the believers they say, “We believe.” But in private they say ˹to each other˺, “Will you disclose to the believers the knowledge Allah has revealed to you,1 so that they may use it against you before your Lord? Do you not understand?”

Sixfiguresmart:
It is not a secret that the quran is a mediocre form of plagiarism from the Bible. Even the word Quran means scriptures. All in it are a melange of the Hubal pagan doctrine, mohammed's thoughts, the compilers thoughts, and the Bible.
surah 2:73 So We instructed, “Strike the dead body with a piece of the cow.” This is how ˹easily˺ Allah brings the dead to life, showing you His signs so that you may understand.

This is how allah performs resurrection.

John 11:41 So they rolled the stone aside. Then Jesus looked up to heaven and said, “Father, thank you for hearing me. John 11:43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”


As a human, in which of these two ways would you love to be resurrected, by STRIKING your dead body with red bloodied cow meat or by respectfully calling YOUR NAME and have you majestically walk back to life?

Sixfiguresmart:
Sir, surah 2:73 So We instructed, “Strike the dead body with a piece of the cow.” This is how ˹easily˺ Allah brings the dead to life, showing you His signs so that you may understand.

This is how allah performs resurrection.

John 11:41 So they rolled the stone aside. Then Jesus looked up to heaven and said, “Father, thank you for hearing me. John 11:43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”


As a human, in which of these two ways would you love to be resurrected, by STRIKING your dead body with red bloodied cow meat or by respectfully calling YOUR NAME and have you majestically walk back to life?

Sixfiguresmart:
If I answer you, will you revert to christianity or will you call allah they and agree that he is polytheist?

Sixfiguresmart:
surah 2:73 So We instructed, “Strike the dead body with a piece of the cow.” This is how ˹easily˺ Allah brings the dead to life, showing you His signs so that you may understand.

This is how allah performs resurrection.

John 11:41 So they rolled the stone aside. Then Jesus looked up to heaven and said, “Father, thank you for hearing me. John 11:43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”


As a human, in which of these two ways would you love to be resurrected, by STRIKING your dead body with red bloodied cow meat or by respectfully calling YOUR NAME and have you majestically walk back to life?

Sixfiguresmart:
When allah addressed himself as we, are we allowed to address him as they?

when allah addressed himself as us, are we allowed to address him as them?

Sixfiguresmart:
Your fallacy is bullcrap. Sir, we are talking about the quran that is supposedly noble and holy. Something holy can stand on its own cos it has divine backing. What you have is really a spiral argument that spurts no fluid. The case in time now is the quran. Dragging elohim, majestatis, and nosism into this is utterly outré.

This shows missing substance in you and lack of coherence which results from feeble knowledge on the issue, and the inability to sustain preliminary level of cogitation in basic reasoning.

I will ask you again: regardless of what other people believe, do you accept that I can sequentially refer to allah as they since he referred to himself as we and us?

Sixfiguresmart:
So, when allah referred to himself as WE and US did he lie or was he being deceitful?

I do not want to go into the first of all Muslims yet. Let us settle the above first.

Sixfiguresmart:
Okay Sir! I got you. Set aside the Jews and Christians for now.

Do you agree that allah is we as stated in the quran?

Am i now authorised to refer to allah as they?

Sixfiguresmart:
So, you agree that allah is polytheist. The deflection does not work for me.
Do you see why the Bible is very essential? Can you see why Mohammed said that if you need authentication of the quran, go to the Christians? Can you see that your only straw out of this question is the Bible? You see the authority of the Bible that you discredit? Would you now accept that the Bible is the word of God?

Sixfiguresmart:

Do you now accept that Hebrew is the language of the scriptures? We are talking about Arabic and you are jumping to Elohim and Hebrew. Can we stay in the language of the quran. You ain't got deflective spirit more than anyone else.

The topic is on the quran, on allah, and the question is, is allah a polytheist when he said WE created man? is he a triune god? Leave elohim outta here. We will delve into it when we get there.

Sixfiguresmart:
In the verses that you quoted above, was allah disrespectful when he used "I" rather than "we"?

Sixfiguresmart:

Who told you this, Sir? In what language is WE use as a sign of respect? in Yoruba or in Arabic?

saed , Mr.

ostaz,sir.

saeda, Ms.

ostaza , ma'am.

These are the words for respect in Arabic. The put in the Title. Not we

So who is Allah respecting when he referred to himself as WE?

Now, you are making it sound like this allah are polytheist even more.

Sixfiguresmart:
So, do you now accept the Jewish God? You have suddenly jumped out of the quran to the Hebrew scriptures. Do you see why mohammed asked you to consult the Christians for clarification of your faith? Do you see that is what you just did? rather than replying to the direct question, you dragged the Bible that you and your scholars discredit into your explanation. So, you cannot pick and choose. Do you accept Elohim as God of Islam now?

meanwhile, if your argument is that Elohim means the same as Allah, why drop the title that Moses called God for Allah in the first place? Also, do you accept that allah is a plural word?

If allah is one, who then are the WE who created man as recorded in this surah. I am so grateful that you claim that no letter is missing. You are about to change the letters now. Surah 56 vs 57 It is We Who created you.

Sixfiguresmart:
Surah 56 vs 57 It is We [/b]Who [b]created you. Will you not then believe ˹in resurrection˺?

Kindly tell me who the WE who created Man are .

Sixfiguresmart:

If allah created man from fluid, whose fluid was it? Because allah said that the fluid COMES from brtween the spine and ribcage.

Everything is not about hate, Sir. I am explaining your Qur'anic teachings. Is islam hate to you?

OJODEL10:
Why are muslims not defending this

Sixfiguresmart:
Not the Arabic that I know of. At the time Arabic was formed, you might present such an excuse. Your Qurans was said to be written in the 8th century. The standard and most popular quran in circulation is a recitation of Hafs EDITION produced in 1923 which is 99 years ago. Arabic at this point has seen all the caliphates and civilization that had extended from the Arab continent to Europe. You would expect that many words had been fully developed about that time. The only setback to islamic during the time of Uthman was the diacritics, my friend not the vocabulary.
haha that is where your logic goes flat. I read and speak Arabic. Your entire argument is absolutely irrelevant in this case. I have lived in Saudi Arabia and seen a million pilgrims. You have no clue that you are hiding behind a transparent curtain. I speak Arabic and the difference is absolutely clear to me haha.

You are only copying and pasting from the net. Take your network away and you cannot defend this thing you call religion.

The words salah all over the islamic world and in all islamic literatures that I have read remains constant.

one point you should take home, though is: Why did you choose those words in English when you just decidedly asserted that there are no words in English to explain it. Isn't that deceit and sophistry? That is what it becomes, my friend. Knowing that you do not have a word, but cherry picking a word that is convenient for you and selling it as a foundational fact to someone else. If I never spoke Arabic or know about Islam, you would have fooled me.

You have been deluded to say that. Salah has a definite English word. I have an Arabic dictionary with me here published in 1970. Salah means the same in 1970 as it does now.
simply google the meaning of that and what you get is purely Arabic. why do you allow yourself to be deceived?
This is false. get real bro, it simply means the same thing. Ask your scholars too.
You are the one refuting and changing the meaning. You just can't accept the fact that is why you insist that the translation is wrong. Even Saudi citizens confirm that is it what you argue against.
All these are bullcraps. A chain of lies that you have been told. Fact flies.

TenQ:

And there is no nearest English word to Salah!?

The word صلاة is used at least 82 times in the Qur'an: can you please quote just one ayah where صلاة is used or translated as BLESS or BLESSING, PRAISE.

Otherwise, all you are doing is to redefine the word صلاة so that you can feel at ease of the meaning of distressing Arabic words.

So, my friend, just one verse where صلاة is used as bless!



Qur'an 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا ٥٦

famozine1:
Am not here to criticize any body this is just my own perspective Christian's see God as the Creator of everything they call him different names even in different dialect we call him king of kings ,Lord of Lords , Creator of heaven and Earth, almighty, king of peace, wonderful concellor ,Jehovah,oluwa,chineke,ubangiji and so on but I have never see a Muslim or in any mosque to call God other names than Allah and what I think is only those small gods that have a specific name example ogun(god of iron) the name is de same everywhere sango,ifa even if u go to Germany ifa is still ifa sango is sango this Push me to a conclusion that Allah is a god but not the Creator or the real God thanks you suggestion is needed