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Joshthefirst:
My point is that you cannot conclude that human reasoning is not rational but geared towards survival and reproduction, and exclude the very reasoning that had you arrive at that very conclusion.

And what reason is that?

And where did you get that argument from?

Joshthefirst:
I bin Dey wait for you to come nau.

And it’s because the natural somehow excludes his reasoning when he makes the conclusion on rationality.
That is, human beings and human moral reasoning are not really rational, except when I’m making this conclusion on the nature of human reasoning.

So what are they if not rational?

Joshthefirst:
IS MAN RATIONAL?

The evolutionary biologist, argues that mans moral reasoning is only as a result of in built mind mechanisms and social adaptations meant to further the survival and reproduction of the human species, i.e our reasoning in the end is NOT to arrive at any objective truth.


Although most atheists on this forum will agree to this thinking, and have even recently alluded to it in one of my recent topics on the nature of morality (cc Hahn, LordReed, budaatum, JeromeBlack, etc), it is ultimately flawed, and completely so.

The only way to explain rationality in the universe is if a rational God put it in.

Because?

Continue with your argument abi na there e finish?

Righteousness89:
But irrespective of whether you regard GOD or not, you Must Appear before Him at the end of your life or at the end of the world.

HE is the only one who will decide your fate..

At that time you will beg but it would be Late.

Make use of this life you have bro...

Blah blah blah

Righteousness89:
GOD does not answer those who do not regard him..

It is not worth any regard in the first place

Righteousness89:
Time will tell who is foolish n wise..

GOD BLESS U

Same God that cannot stop Corona virus?

Righteousness89:
Foolish talk..

Wisdom is foolish to people who believe in the bible and it's incompetent god

Offpoint:
Hanh

I know say you go show

Moneyboyz:
So you are trying to say it all came into existence by itself?

What if those empty planets are failed experiments by God to create a planet with life?

Also what if those planets like Mars once had life and they were eradicated for the same reason we have been told to repent and make peace with God.

God exists or not, I would rather believe than not, it won't be good to die only to discover there is life after death and I've been stupid.
Besides it didn't cost you anything other than live a humble sin free life.

Offpoint

Righteousness89:
You beat around the bush and pew Thrash!

You came here complaining about GOD. Did GOD'S People complain to you?

Young man , Make use of the Breathe you Have... those who have crossed over without JESUS today are wishing and desiring to have that life you have..

Refuse to end like them...

Make Peace with JESUS CHRIST..

Same Jesus that can't do anything about the Corona virus?

chariisGRACE:
Na who create all this things?

My brother, whether you like it or not, GOD exists.

Which God?

Allah?
Jehovah?
Vishnu?
Zeus?
Odin?

Righteousness89:
Call on your "competent god" to save you

Because yours is a failure abi?

Righteousness89:
Which GOD are u calling ?

Is it the GOD that you don't Believe or what?


I expect u will call on the person you believe..

I am talking about the incompetent god you serve

Righteousness89:
This Virus is not smiling at all at all...

People of GOD Prepare to Meet your GOD...

A virus that no one knows how it is contacted, Neither is there any cure..

This World is Folding up...

Prepare Friends...

A virus your god cannot cure

captainking:
lol..
perhaps

Lol

GraGra247:
He has multi millions in his account from that fight alone.

That's all that really counts.

To a Nigerian

Yamleg:
How can I mass delete my Facebook friends, please?

Lol. Na to unfriend them one by one o.

I took my time to do it

captainking:
This is to motivate someone...

To cut their beards

Joshthefirst:
You do have beliefs, aren’t you an atheist?

Let’s not go there shaa

You mean you still don't understand the definition of atheism?

*Facepalm*

You can print and hang the screenshot on your wall

Joshthefirst:
No. Are you a liar? Are you a thief?

No

But your god has lied severally in the bible though

Joshthefirst:
Okay, suit yourself, as I already implied, you are a mocker. It’s awfully hard to win people over to your side by mocking them though. I know that by experience. I can easily mock your beliefs and show it to be the truly idiotic trash, but I won’t, I’ll rely on arguments and respectful debate.

What am I trying to win you over to exactly? Atheism has no heaven, no Paradise, no heavenly rewards etc. Lol

And I don't have beliefs. I "disbelieve" the things you believe in. How hard is that to understand?

Joshthefirst:
Stop looking for loopholes. You’re a liar aren’t you?

Answer his question first. Is your god a liar or not?

You can't tell people to ignore obvious loopholes.

Joshthefirst:


What are you saying? Refer to my description of judgement. God bringing evil upon someone does not mean He is an evil God. He brings evil on evil doers, it’s not always straightforward though, I’d love to teach you a lot about biblical wisdom and the concept of justice and tribulation, but you’re a skeptic and a mocker.

You are the one that is not getting it. God said in his own word(s) that it created evil. All those other things are simply you tying to twist his words to fit your own idea of an all good God.

Honestly, there is so much stupidity in the bible it is hard not to make mockery of it and those who actually believe all that nonsense and who fail to just take the bible for what it is.

Trash

iCauseTrouble:
The strength of friendship doesn't lie in numbers but in values.......
Some people have more than 500 useless friends, single contract them no go give them

That's why I deleted most of my Facebook friends and I have not bothered to call any of my old friends.

How can you have 1000 friends and you cannot raise ordinary 100k?

Joshthefirst:
Yes. God can bring calamity and evil upon people. He brought a flood that reduced human population to 8 people, as someone pointed out. This doesn’t mean that good is evil and evil is good. That doesn’t make sense. This very verse you posted gives a clear distinction between good and evil, light and darkness.

Exactly. The bible doesn't make sense. Neither does the description of God.

The verse also confirms that God is responsible for both good and evil. Didn't you see that part?

Joshthefirst:
He creates and He destroys, I agree, but this doesn’t mean that good and evil mean the same thing to God. Good and evil is the same thing means good is evil and evil is good.

Isaiah 45:7

King James Bible
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things

Michellekabod2:
that is why I said "some"....when ladies do likewise I condemn it.

At this point I'd have expected you to say "people are evil" and not be gender specific

Michellekabod2:
Anyone marrying in this present age has liver o..some men can be evil

When did you start making blanket statements like this?

How many men have stabbed their wives recently?

Dedetwo:
The bolded a stream of thought born out stark ignorance. Please tell me how many European countries their mother tongue is English? Most European countries cannot be separated from their mother tongue.

In Nigeria alone there are 520 languages. This means that even among major tribes there are dialects that still separate them. Like the Yorubas for instance, an ijebu man cannot understand what an ilaje man is saying and vice versa.

Can you name any European or first world country that has over 100 languages?

Joshthefirst:
Nigeria is in a terrible state, and there are many factors involved, but God doesn’t promise anything special or specific about Nigeria, what he definitely promises is a new heavenly nation where there’s no corruption or injustice, and I’m happy to be a citizen of that country through faith in Christ. Nigeria may get better, Nigeria may get worse, I continue to trust God and look for a new heaven and a new earth filled with righteousness and justice.

The problem with Nigeria and the world at large is the heart of men. Corruption and wickedness stem from the heart, and the only true and permanent fix is a change in man’s very nature.

God has not done anything to solve the situation since 1960.

I don't think trusting in it is a wise decision because it either doesn't give a fvck or has more important things to do.

Like touching Buhari's heart to release terrorists back into the society