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The NA does not need to be a monster to combat monsters. If we cannot differentiate between NA and the bad guys lets throw them all out and get a citizens militia. At least the CJTF has skin in the game and will die at his post to defend home and hearth, not some random sojo that will run when he finishes his ammo...

No bring Yankee into am, so you dey model yourself after yankee police. Do you know one reason why the yankee police dem be like that? NA THEIR TRADOC! and they are changing it, look Cops die in the US o, the US is a armed society hence police use excessive force, you are facing old men and women you are saying you are more equal, go look afghanistan, if every grown man carries a gun NA IS IRRELEVANT for internal defense. You think that cant happen! dont fool yourself, look at your near nbhd, Army no dey rule tinz for Sudan, Chad, CAR, Congo, Libya, Sinai. You think if you dont behave that you will be able to stop our descent into ANARCHY!

CHECK YOURSELF!

mikolo80:
IT IS WHAT IT IS
IS IT NOT WHAT POLICE ARE DOING IN HTE US
SOME FINGERS ARE SIMPLY MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS
WHY GO TO GUNFIGHT WITH MITTENS

Guy , no be for mind o. Soldier dey bleed like every one else. When 4 US PMC's were killed in fallujah the people rejoiced, why...cos they saw them as bullies. Look , in Baga, Bama, Monguno and Gwoza NA fled from BH. If civilian carry gun you tink say him no shoot different from how you shoot? Hearts and minds is a fundamental of COIN warfare, what do you think are the threats you will face in the future? No mad man is coming from outside, the madmen you will fight are here with you, dem dey your back yard, on the internets, your creeks and your deserts. Abi u no dey look wetin dey happen dor middle belt? Ambushing ambushing and killings. POLO SHIELD dey fight Cameroon? Or ZAMAN LAFIYA dey fight chad? This kind of behavior if soldier come mediate dem go say make him waka, you are not our judge we dont trust you, if you set up barracks you will harass us worse than the Takfiri (fact! they will say that)

Change your behavior so that when you come to enforce the peace, the people will support you!

mikolo80:
for ur mind

Thanks for saying the truth. You are right ; this is the way the polity is run.

HOWEVER no one else in the polity is trained specifically to destroy the enemy, such crude behavior in those who cannot destroy is plain thuggery, in the hands of a well trained military it is a means to ethnic cleansing, genocide, dictatorships, clean up your act before some one else does it for you.

Of course people love Soldiers, when they are on point they are the best of us, selfless mofos who will lay down their lives for the unity of Nigeria. At their worst.. dude, not cool. Esp from the beginning, their is no honor in 100L cadets humiliating members of the citizenry, it is demeaning to an officer and shows the soul of an uncouth brute. It shows you are no better than a power hungry area boy. y'all are better than that.

mikolo80:
YES THEY ARE BULLIES,I WAS ALSO DISGUSTED BY THE BEHAVIOUR EVEN AS A CADET BUT THAT IS THE WAY WE(THEY) ARE TRAINED.YES IT'S CRUDE BUT AT OUR LEVEL OF EDUVATION(DEVELOPMENT) IT IS MOST EFFECTIVE . UNTIL POWER BROKERS(POLITICIANS JUDGES AND SO ON) STOP ABUSING THEIR POWER AND PRIVILEGE 'WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE TOP BRASS IS GOOD FOR THE CADETS

PS
YOU NEED TO SEE THE LOVE KADUNA PPL SHOWED TO US DURING THE MOST ARDUOUS OF TRAINING(HOW MANY OF YOU WILL NOT FEEL FLY AFTER RUNNING 43KM WITH UP TO 3 RIFLES
CUT THEM SOME SLACK AND AVOID THEM

You dey quote idi amin? Really? Nah man, time for us all to grow up and leave childish things. The world is not as symmetric as you have been taught, learn not only from tradition, learn from history and from feedback. You need people to support the army, this behavior turns people against the army.

sinator:
lol guy aw fa

Are they gods, they made a mistake.. own it. The world has moved past this kind of behavior. time for you to grow up and learn what its like to be a warrior. Dont teach the young ones the same habit, this is the kind of mentality that has soldiers burning BRT.

ahmadidani:
are u aware this people u are seeing on dis pics are now officers nd here are u saying all dis

Dude.. please... just stop OK. Just stfu

sinator:
One idiot will just go to someone's twitter handle select pictures and give it any title dey lyk..... I hv seen pictures with different stories attached to it... Well u got ur mouth, but use it wisely...


Freedom of speech is allowed, but freedom after speech is not guaranteed~~ Idi Amin.

What a bunch of pussy ass soldiers. Real soldiers are protectors and not bullies. Stupid tradition should end. One on one any of those fuckers, I am taking em out (na to choke, break or KO). Only in Camo do they think they are all that, some civvies on this thread are fucking warriors and killers on their own right. no man should ever put another man down because you are being hazed in your own learning center, who gives a sh$$ about TAMA this TAMA that.

Look, bunch of booger eating Takfiri's chased you soldiers out of Monguno, Bama, Gwoza and Baga, dem no do training like you, dont disrespect civvies..if not for CJTF where would Zaman Lafiya be? We support the army, dont come here and wet the bed, fucking moronic bastard kids giving the army a bad name. Grow the Bleep up

gozmok1:
sharaaap if you dont know what comment . Baba dullard must be blamed its part of his promise.

You compliment me by insulting me, obviously you lack debating skills and bow down to my superior argument. And you expose your ineptness further by your describing PMB as "Baba Dullard"... surely your wordplay can be improved marginally. Do you lack imagination so much that you recycle cliched aphorisms?

Any one who thinks Buhari controls the exchange rate lacks and understanding of Economics and History (not insulting any one o, just trying to be factual), look back to Nigeria between 1981 to 1983 to understand the history, once Buhari left IBB stopped defending the fall of the Naira and implemented SAP in order to get forex via IMF loan, the rest is history, look at the Euro and the Swiss Franc to understand Economics of demand and supply, Euro used to be like 1.3 to a dollar, now its 0.9 to a dollar, has nothing to do with Political leadership.

Naira value is based on demand and supply, Naija no get the forex to defend the naira on the way down. Brace yourselves.... downward pressure on naira is still continuing. With a predominantly import based economy and crude prices still low, we need to hit the sweet spot and I am not sure where that is. I am thinking 243- 253 should bring stability , there will probably be even more import controls, more Aregbesolas not paying salaries, austerity is staring Nigeria in the face.

Iran gets the bomb inside a decade and a half, fait accompli

Do the right thing.

Apologies, I did not get your Sarcasm. Good point tho..

The last presido, the less said about his stance on corruption the better.

@Johntobi56..

You are just another tribal Jingoist, everybody here is talking politics you are busy insulting a whole tribe as foolish people, vengeful people. Do you not have more constructive things to say! You say nothing but needle commentators and insult South Easterners.

You are all that is wrong with Nigeria, do you really want to engender hate between Igbos and Yorubas?

And everybody here counting which man is from their tribe or is of their religion, how will that help you cook food in the morning? Or put fuel in your car? We are all human beings, respect yourselves and respect others.

We will be forced to innovate and adapt or we will continue suffering as a supplier of raw materials, Nigeria needs to stop being so dependent on oil sales. Give the oil to the people and tax them 50% of Net Profit if that is what is needed. we need a larger tax base and a smaller government. The way to go is a hybrid economy (services, manufacturing, tech, finance and resources)

@Barcanista. I have called him out for some previous sectarian and tribalism comments. That said.

DUDE CALLED THIS LIKE A DON! Much respect.

Paid shill, celebrating a convicted thief. Imperial penal system? Did you not follow the trial, all that money was for who? from where?

@Utchgirl and @Yorubbish

You are trolls and undeserving of responses, yours is a tirade of hate, intolerance, impropriety and truculence. Unfortunately there has to be responses to folks like you just so perhaps a spark of light penetrates the darkness and mire in your thought processes. So perhaps others will learn from it and package their words better.

Criminality is not selective of gender, race, personality type , clan or gender. This is an obvious truth, yet you in claiming to defend one tribe against another decide to harp on the purported clans and tribal identities of these here crooks.

A focus on National identity would serve you better, then you wont see the bogey man of tribalism under every bed and in every cup board, or better still you wont serve said bogeyman. You should see the bogey man of corruption as a common enemy and address it.

Who are the bankers?

Secret society warning

Unsubstantiated reports indicate it is a legitimate oil operations (E & P) company , privately held. Principals rumored to be members of outgoing Govt .

These are unconfirmed, may be a legit operation run by a honest businessman/woman that is not a former Govt worker, however there is lack of transparency surrounding the company, this is normal with privately held business.

Typically Nigerian E &P's outsource actual operations to one of the more established services companies(Baker Hughes, Halliburton or SLB) for a fee, Aiteo is paid in Oil.

peleson:
Pls who owns Aiteo group?

Why must we renegotiate the present state? When did you become the champion of the lower Niger or the sections of the South.

Your bona fides are becoming evident, the elections are past and we should all move ahead with building OUR country, and not look at Tribal or clannish identity to advocate who owns what, in a country with no tax base how do you expect the government to generate revenue without resource control? Are wars fought for free? Federal Universities and Govt agencies need to be operated, roads are built, scholarship and amnesties funded, we know of the bogeyman of corruption, we must fight it. Just do not exalt the bogeyman of tribalism to be perfect.

barcanista:
Whatever is in the land of a group of people belong to the people(locals). The Nigeria state should consider it necessary to renegotiate the present "state" or allow for a referendum. Doing this will douse tension and resolve matters amicably.

This was done by groups protesting the sale of the OML by Shell to AITEO, it is not "oil war" . No acts of sabotage,arson, extortion or terrorism were committed. It was an act of civil disobedience (with placards and picketing) by people trying to prepare companies like Aiteo to "take care " of them. Really it was an appeal to maintain the status quo of Shell taking care of the host communities and had very little to do with equity or North vs South or unicorn vs griffin conflict.

Read the Reuters report on this here (there are other sources, you can Google it).

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/05/22/nigeria-oil-idUKL5N0YD2NH20150522

http://www.timeslive.co.za/africa/2015/05/22/Nigerian-youths-shut-down-crude-oil-production-at-OML-29-in-Nembe

I also use this opportunity to call out Barcanista.

You are either a tribalist, or a paid shill for the out going Govt. Either way.. Your lack of integrity will turn neutrals against your paymasters. There is more to this world than money and fame, they can go. Your Integrity or lack of it will always be with you.

The same Ibibio and Efik that Arochukwu sold down the Qua Iboe and at Jamestown? Now you are all buddy buddy, where did you read of your hundred year alliance?

thehannibal:
No! No!! No!!!

Ezeagu, I respect you so much.
Now, what you're calling for can't happen. And I pray it never happens.

The inclusion of these minorities in Biafra, makes this whole thing look like a joke.

The only ethnic group I'd have loved us to co-habit with is Ibibio/Efik.

Because of the similarities in culture, and also the strong friendship between them and the Igbos that has lasted over a century.

But it's obvious every group wants to be independent, so let's leave it that way.

Every group should fight for its cause and live alone afterwards, especially the treacherous Ijo drunks.

We keep forgetting our history and where we're coming from. It pains me so much.

#ElectionsAreOver

True Southerner? Check your bloodline, a large # of Igbo settlements came from folks who migrated from the Midwest and North East. Read your history well and dont fantasize that your blood is better than another man.

vigho:
God bless Noblezone and Barcanista and all the other e-warriors supporting Biafra and the Niger Delta. We shall overcome. Abokis or Salafists or Namas or what ever those god forsaken people of Northern Nigeria are, cannot stop the shine of the true Southerner. If you are a Southerner and u are towing the path of our foolish Yoruba brothers or any of the ignoramus following those nomadic blood tasty Islamists , then shame on you. You are a curse to the black race.

You mean slave liberators. Read your history.. Arochukwu cult were the slavers, The tribes in Forcados and the rest of the creeks were the slavers, selling their fellow black men down the river for cowries , guns and cloth. The British ended the slave trade, by FORCE in Lagos . And forced non slave trade on the Delta, they pacified the south east and parts of the south west due to free trade, internecine war and slavery.

noblezone:
Here is the website of the Lower Niger Congress.

The Unity is real!

The better wine is yet to come.


www.lowernigercongress.org

I don't care if we answer Biafra, I don't care if we answer Lower Niger, I don't care if we have Biafra side by side with Niger Delta Republic.
What I just want is FREEDOM from a "country" created by slave traders.

Our twin bogeymen of Tribalism and corruption rear heads again, Hydras that multiply and become more and more. Some proposals more "chop I chop" rather than clear direction, confusion from nation states that never existed previously trying to create themselves in a new image.

How can tribes that operated on the clan level want to break up to the Tribal level? The only united entity immediately before British Colonialism was the Caliphate which had very little of the middle belt and basically co opted the Hausa City states which before them had Kano as the most important, What we know now as the South East was a loose confederacy at best, the Delta was even more piecemeal, Yoruba land was in the depths of a desperate civil war over autonomy, slavery and trade, Lagos was sacked by the British backed by the Egbas.

Yet now we speak of breaking Nigeria up. Aude Sapere, break it up till when? Who will lead the Igbo? Will an Ekiti man follow an Egba man? WIll an Ibadan man live in peace with an Ijebu man? Who will preside over an Ijaw council? A nomadic tribe that never had a major city? Will Kanem Borno who till this day do not have an Emir in Maiduguri follow the Sultanate? and spit on their freedom and history, Or will Kano decide they want a "fresh start" outside the influence of the current Sultan. Where does Nassarawa, Taraba, Gombe go? Nupe and Borgu form a bendel kingdom and will Bini rule over Ishan again?

Best thing for us is a federal system, non centralized with a figurehead president. Let every LGA (not state) every LGA should administer itself, and let the states provide some Guidance, states should not be split by Tribe (just encourages the the worse of the bogeymen, at least corruption never led to genocide)

Think for yourself and do not fall for what the narrative says.

We agree that they lied, just to Clarify.. I am not from the Niger Delta nor do I know (nor care) what religious institution Government Tompolo attends or was born into.

If the real problem is that CASglobal lied, then the thread topic is sensationalist. For your first question, a lot of PMC's are regarded of questionable character. Browse Sons of Iraq about how the US paid thousands of Sunni fighters in order to fight AQ (same Sunni fighters are now fighting Iraqi army), or how the US state Dept is using former warlords (some of whom fought them in the 90s) to hunt Al Shabab. Or the right wing battalions in Ukraine.

I can go all day on that topic. Dont moralize an issue on which Amnesty (rightly or wrongly) was given to all militants who took it, those that did not take it were fought and killed , Tompolo is hopefully reformed, too bad for him if he is not...if Tompolo is a threat he will face the full might of the Nigerian Army, Navy and Airforce. There is a reason the militants sued for peace in 2009 before Amnesty was granted.

harveyspec:
Pls which of those countries outsource such need thru security outfits of questionable character?

Hope you read the line where it says that CSGLOBAL told them that the ship was going to sail on British waters & will fly a British flag with European workers!!

now, it's flying a Nigerian flag on Nigerian waters with nimasa/Nigerian navy workers !!

Not until we put sentiments aside of he is my brother or we attend the same church or we are of same tribe, we will never progress

Good point about the use of this third party, I am not sure. perhaps its because of the contract given to said Tomopolo as a sub contractor to NIMASA and to supply men for patrolling creeks and inland water ways, why the lies? Norway will not sell ships to any one who could use it in a conflict zone, even a state actor would not have been able to buy the ships, CAS global lied so that hey could buy the ships, probably bought it cheap and marked it up when transferring it to NIMASA, I am merely speculating.

The point is, the ships are not operated by an insurgency, Norway is not arming Niger Delta militants.

skyope:
The question has always been why this particular 3rd party?

The investigation is concerned about this particular 3rd party. Why the lies by CAS global regarding the intent of use?

Thats a poor point, you are just belaboring. I agree with you that it is used against Pirates. My exception is now the point that all Pirates operating in the Gulf of Guinea/Bight of Benin are Nigerians. That is not true, Ghanaian Pirates have operated in that region, there are more pirates operating in the bight of benin in the past two years than there are operating in the gulf of aden off the coast of Somalia, attacks by non Nigerian pirates are not imaginary, and no... I am not worrying about it. You get kidnap insurance and get some armed guards if your cargo is valuable enough.

skyope:
Should you not be more worried by existing attacks than imaginary ones?

Good point, however that is not illegal, and morality is relative. He was given a contract and he filled it. My problem is claiming it was sold to insurgents when that is not true. No matter how you cut it it, acting like it will be used to destroy Nigerian infrastructure by militants is not true, and the OP clearly meant this to be a case of western powers arming a rebel insurgency in Nigeria. The ships are run by NIMASA, the weapons are run by the Navy since the Navy is running the security aspect of the operation.

duni04:
There's no point explaining anything to someone with a depraved sense of morality. The morality of Tompolo, a militant warlord in the Niger delta, acquiring gun boats under any guise is the point you still don't get. If those ships had been stripped of their weapons and sold to a legitimate government, no one would be making noise today. But Jonathan's government gave approval to a company owned by his kinsman and ethnic warlord to buy gunboats on behalf of Nigeria. That is the problem!

The fact that no attacks by non Nigerians have occired so far, does not mean attacks by non Nigerians can never occur.

skyope:
Have you ever heard of any attack in the region that is non-nigerian?