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 Islam for Muslims / Re: We (muslims) Worship Allah(swt) Not The
black Stone In Ka'aba. by harbiola1(m): 11:53am On Jan 06, 2014 |
cleanvessel:Gen. 21:20-21. "And God was with the lad and he grew and dwelt in the Wilderness, and became an archer. And he dwelt in the wilderness of paran. And his mother took him a wife out of the land of egypt." Ishmaeel got married, lived and died in the desert of Paran. This implies that Arabs are not descendants of Ishmaeel, then where are his children? cleanvessel:But Genesis' stories come before Deut, King, Num. cleanvessel:Note that many Islamic practices predates Islam. What comes to ur mind here? They couldn't have been biazed against Islam, but what about Arabs. cleanvessel:Your conclusion is too early. cleanvessel:Seperation in what sense, father/son relationship or what? cleanvessel:Very interesting question! but lets reserve this. cleanvessel:You'll find their stories on wikipedia. You haven't tell me where Abraham's built Altar and Hagar's well are. |
| Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 10:20am On Jan 06, 2014 |
Kay 17: Where you there when God was creating the universe?You're asking a rhetorical question. Universe is a creation and it precedes ur gods. What does that tells u? |
| Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 10:08am On Jan 06, 2014 |
macof:Wait o, who owns the thread, and who intervene in what [s]he didn't regard? macof:  I should repent?My identity is Islam. Islam is natural. The father of Yorubas was a Muslim and was never a Pagan like you. Paganism/Spirituality that u're practicing was inspired by satan to alter the monotheistic ideology of Yoruba ancestor. I won't be surprised if u don't understand. macof:I'm not ridiculing Yoruba and i'll never do. You're the one that's ridiculing ur creator by worshiping non-existing deities and attribute the role of the creator to them. You're a Muslim and never a pagan by birth. Stop this ur spiritual delusions. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: We (muslims) Worship Allah(swt) Not The
black Stone In Ka'aba. by harbiola1(m): 10:01pm On Jan 05, 2014 |
cleanvessel:Pls what do you know about Allah? cleanvessel:The stone is as sacred as it was in its first time on earth. The change in its color is a mere sign of men's transgression. cleanvessel:I agree with u that it's controversial but which side do you think could be lieing? cleanvessel:Bible dare not say this. Ok!!! Where is ur proof cleanvessel:Did bible record this? cleanvessel:Now lets look into their history as recorded in the bible. 1. Abraham built an Altar, where is it? 2. Ismail lived in the desert of paran, where is it? 3. Hagar saw a well in the desert, where is it? Answer with full bible verses. |
| Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 8:54pm On Jan 05, 2014 |
macof: Abiola you do not know anything.Because i don't belong to ur school of thought? macof:The bolded doesn't matter. macof:You pagan hypocrite! So you can tell me to leave Ifa alone? macof:What was these forces' names before any of these men existed, Sango in particular? macof:Whatever! I think ur own knowledge is unlimited? macof:But u can bring Spirituality ideas into Islam? macof:You don't mean it! What makes it ahead? macof:What do you know about God? macof:You make sense only to urself. |
| Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 8:24pm On Jan 05, 2014 |
Kay 17: I simply want to know how you got to know God created this universe.You simply want me to tell you something so that u can dispute it. Lets reason it out! Kay 17:He created universe - Known/Unknown |
| Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 10:14am On Jan 05, 2014 |
Kay 17:Check my posts so far, I'm talking about God of the universe. Kay 17:Q 2:170. When it is said to them: "Follow what God hath revealed." They say: "Nay! we shall follow the way of our fathers. What! even though their fathers were void of Wisdom and Guidance? Kay 17:The onus is on you to prove me wrong. |
| Religion / Re: Seeming/glaring Contradictions In The Bible. by harbiola1(m): 10:02pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
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| Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 9:50pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
Olaoch can i ask u a question? |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: We (muslims) Worship Allah(swt) Not The
black Stone In Ka'aba. by harbiola1(m): 8:56pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
cleanvessel:The stone is a space stone (Meteorite) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_stone cleanvessel:Have u ever seen other stones that u're talking? Many circumstances attached to the change of its color. You may nt understand this, and that is why i wont waste time on it. cleanvessel:The site of the house is different from the materials used. The black stone is the only remnant of the building 'cos the building has been reconstructed several times using artificial materials. That particular location of the House and the black stone make the sacred Ka'aba. cleanvessel:Whoever told u the red and the yellow parts fooled you. Initially, Prophet Muhammed(PBUH) faces Temple Mount (Jerusalem) for 13y and He had never face Ka'aba before that 13y. Prior to the conquest of Mecca, Allah commanded Prophet Muhammed(PBUH) to turn to the first Bethel on earth which is Ka'aba. Allah promised The Noble Prophet(PBUH) that He would deliver Ka'aba to the Prohet(PBUH) which Allah finally did. The first thing for Muhammed(PBUH) was to fully restore the sanctity of the Ka'aba which He first and foremost did. Allah knows best! 1 Like |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: We (muslims) Worship Allah(swt) Not The
black Stone In Ka'aba. by harbiola1(m): 8:26pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
barackodam: I no u wunt b satisfyd, buh i did ansa ur qstionsJazakaAllah Khayran!!! |
| Religion / Re: Letter From King Leopold II Of Belgium To Colonial Missionaries by harbiola1(m): 2:58pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
harbiola1: @OP, ur link is not genuine. PAGAN 9JA: harbiola1:   1 Like |
| Religion / Re: Letter From King Leopold II Of Belgium To Colonial Missionaries by harbiola1(m): 2:35pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
@OP, ur link is not genuine.  |
| Religion / Re: A Brother From Saudi-arabia. Journey To CHRIST by harbiola1(m): 2:24pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
highyo:This man said something concerning the bolded; https://www.nairaland.com/1577921/seminarian-exposed-much-historical-truth |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: For Those Considering To Leave Islam for Christianity by harbiola1(m): 1:45pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
cleanvessel:  |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: For Those Considering To Leave Islam for Christianity by harbiola1(m): 12:42pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
cleanvessel: Can't you apply csense to a statement? I'm nt confused! cleanvessel:You're now talking. Jesus never referred to God as "father" in reality. Do you want to know where "Father" comes from? Reference: Bible and Christian source. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: For Those Considering To Leave Islam for Christianity by harbiola1(m): 12:24pm On Jan 04, 2014 |
Mintayo:Yes! and in the bible. |
| Sports / Re: African Player Of The Year: Why Mikel Should Trump Yaya And Drogba by harbiola1(m): 11:32am On Jan 04, 2014 |
Mikel owns this one. |
| Sports / Re: Can An African Team Win Brazil 2014? by harbiola1(m): 11:27am On Jan 04, 2014 |
Forza p: No African team can reach d semis talkless of wining d cup,no world class player(s) frm africa except YAYA!!d rest are jst average,if i'm forced to rate dier chances of wining, it goes thus.... African teams are betten than this ur pool result. |
| Sports / Re: Can An African Team Win Brazil 2014? by harbiola1(m): 11:20am On Jan 04, 2014 |
safarigirl: bros, thank you for supporting mama africa, but let's be realistic here. Except by some weird fate the [s]entire German team is involved in a plane crash, Messi, Aguero and Di Maria become paralysed, Brazil's squad goes on strike, and the Spanish and Dutch teams fail to show up due to internal conflict,[/s] there is no way our chances would be so ridiculously high, even the Brazilians don't have a 100% chance of winning. Our chances are as follows: Cameroon- 35%. CIV- 42%. Nigeria- 50%. Ghana- 52%. Algeria- 26%.Ma'am, u're too much on point. |
| Politics / Re: Top 10 Rebels Of All Time by harbiola1(m): 10:32am On Jan 04, 2014 |
Modify the topic pls. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: For Those Considering To Leave Islam for Christianity by harbiola1(m): 10:00am On Jan 04, 2014 |
cleanvessel:God! But what if i tell u that Jesus never used the word "Father" for God? |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: For Those Considering To Leave Islam for Christianity by harbiola1(m): 9:51am On Jan 04, 2014 |
Mintayo:Who is his father? Isn't it possible to be without father? |
| Religion / Re: Seeming/glaring Contradictions In The Bible. by harbiola1(m): 9:38pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
BabaGnoni: He is my brother. BabaGnoni:Lets see how far u can go here; Matthew 17:11-13. Elias truely shall first come and restore all things. But I say unto you that Elias is come already and they knew him not. But have done unto him whatsoever they listed likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that He spake unto them of John the Baptist. John 1:21. And they asked him (i.e John the Baptist), What then? Art thou Elias, and he saith, I am not (Alias) Kindly explain what happened in the suppose transfiguration of Elias that either John the Baptist or Jesus Christ didn't know. BabaGnoni: Ok! we'd see who laughs last. BabaGnoni:What for, Ain't u boosting my sense of humor? BabaGnoni:  This man didn't knw why i'm here. I've too much expo to expose BabaGnoni: That was a compliment? i knw. BabaGnoni: Future will determines. BabaGnoni:Who is God? He is One. He is the Creator. He is Self-sufficient. He is the Most Merciful. He is the Most Compassionate. He is the Sustainer of Alameen (Living/Non Thing). He is the Shaper of Alameen (Living/Non Thing). The Just Judge of the last day. My message box can't house more than this. BabaGnoni:I'm a Muslim - who totally submits his will to One True God, hence i'm at peace with Him. Let me remind u that All the bible icons were what i'm. BabaGnoni: How do you know? BabaGnoni: fun of it! BabaGnoni:I wish everyone knew this. But the reverse is the fact among many so called religious people. BabaGnoni:That Islam is what God will accept and that is why all the prophets preached and practiced it. BabaGnoni: From being non-Muslim. BabaGnoni:How does God's plan reveal His Face? God doesn't have plan for you? Who said he sees God's plan? |
| Religion / "9/11 Is A Day Of Reflection For Me For Several Reasons." Robert Salaam by harbiola1(m): 6:32pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
Robert Salaam 9/11 is a day of reflection for me for several reasons. On 9/11 I found out that: 1. I really was a Marine 2. I was willing to die for my country 3. Islam is in fact not only a religion of peace, but the truth Most people have no problem with 1 and 2 when I ordinarily re-tell this story, but number 3 is always met with hostility. Without going into the story again as I have a thousand times, I just want to cover the main points. 1: When I joined the Marine Corps in 1998 it was a different world per se. Most of my peers joined the military as an alternative to staying home or not going to college. Many like me joined the Marine Corps simply to be part of the best miliatary organization on the planet (sorry Army). However, that was it in a nutshell. There were no dreams of war and combat no matter how much warrior training I had. It was good stuff to know, it felt good to know I could if I wanted to, but I was content behind my desk and flying with President Clinton to the Harley David factory in Pennsylvania or to South Beach, Miami. That was the extent of my career until 9/11. That day, I found out that I truly was a Marine, that day the warrior in me came alive and I wanted nothing more than to fight the scum that dared attack the USA the greatest nation on Earth!. That day I found out that even a bunch of spoiled, Presidential, airwingers, were still Marines and we were ready to go and do what Marines do. That day that Eagle, Globe, and Anchor took over and the true warrior that I didn’t even know existed came alive. That day more than any other day, I was a Marine! 2: Given the gravity of the day, I knew something had to be done. I didn’t know what, but I knew it had to be something. I began to think of all the medal of honor winners who gave their lives in the service of others. I never truly understood that, but on 9/11 something came over me. I knew that if fanatical killers were willing to do this, than I had to be equally willing to do whatever it took to defeat them. I didn’t know what to think, but I knew one thing, if I had to die, I wanted it to be in the service of my country. I never felt that way before, on 9/10 I wore a uniform, but it was just a “job” to a degree, but on 9/11 I swore by that uniform and what Marines have lived and died for and was ready to join their ranks if need be. I remember around 10 am before the base phones shut down calling my mother and she answered crying, the most I could muster was “Mom I love you, tell everyone I love them, but now I have to do what I get paid to do” right there out of no where in one line I told my mother that our conversation may have been the last, and in that moment of clarity there was peace. I knew what had to be done and I truly didn’t care about the costs, as long as America won. 3. This has always been the most difficult thing to explain and it still is. On 9/11 we were on “standby” for more than 14hrs. We didn’t see any “action” and we just hurried up and waited, and waited, and waited, and then it was 9/12. As things started to develop and get sorted out after that horrible day, I began to reflect. Mostly about 1 and 2 but then I began to ask myself questions: Who were these people that did this? Why would they do this? Are their beliefs that crazy that they are willing to kill themselves and many others for it? I asked myself these questions over and over. My only solution was research. I wanted to know my enemy so that I may be better prepared to kill them. As a devout Christian, lay leader, bible study leader, etc. I wanted to see this murderous book for myself so that I may be able to inform my friends, group, and congregation. I never met a Muslim in my life all I knew was the church, so I decided to go straight to the horses mouth…the Quran. As things were eased on the base in the following days, I decided to go to the bookstore and I bought it a Koran. My first one it was in complete English no arabic in sight. So with a scornful look and disdain in my heart I began to read…The very first thing I read was: The Opening In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful: Praise be to God, the Lord of the Universe. The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. King of the Day of Judgment. You alone we worship, and You alone we ask for help Guide us to the straight way; The way of those whom you have blessed, not of those who have deserved anger, nor of those who stray. In the name of God, the Most Gracious and Merciful! What in the world! I thought I’m supposed to be reading about killing Christians in the name of some other god or something. Where’s all the violence and advocation of such against America? This opening, sounded much like my prayers, so I began to read on… As I read on I learned many things like God is One, fighting is only ordained in self-defense against oppression, respect for others religions and places of worship, Muslims believed in the Prophets of the Bible and in Jesus albeit a little differently, but heh there were Christians that believed the same things about Jesus too! In other words I found none of what I expected, I found no smoking gun, what little so-called violence I did find was nothing more than historical happenings, that didn’t shape the larger context of the books call for patience, prayer, and balance. It didn’t read purely as a historical book although there was history in it, it didn’t read purely as a book of dogma, although there was dogma in it, to me the most remarkable thing to me was that the author seemed to be speaking directly to me and not through 3rd and 4th parties. For every question I asked there was an answer, for every answer given, the text itself asked me a question. The book forced me to think, challenged me, and reasoned with me. This was a book of reason, this was a book of discussion, this book made me stronger in my desire for God. Any book that could do that in of itself, without the aid of a person reading it to me had to have divine Origins! Of course, this began to baffle me. Emotions began to be confounded at times, I didn’t know what to think, but I knew one think, I believed in this text and I wanted to be part of those who did. Obviously those murders couldn’t have read the same book! We must be reading two different things. I began to care less and less about the murderers and what they got out of the text and more and more about what I got out of the text. Somehow they got murder and intollerance, I got love for God, man, and peace. No more did I have to believe that those who didn’t believe as I did were bound to hell, now I could believe in the unity of faith, I could believe that all of mankind was destined to God and God loved everyone not just an elect group! Naturally, all of this shook me at my foundation my core, so the best I could do was share these thoughts with my mentor and pastor, my grandfather. I expected him to chastize me and tell me satan was confusing me, but instead, he said he believes Islam to be on the same path as Judaism and Christianity, he believed that they all have a central Origin and a central destination. He believed that while the family of Abraham (pbuh) didn’t always agree on many points, they are still family nonetheless. At that point, slack jawed, I realized that my new ways weren’t a hinderance or some kind of satanic confusion, but another path and journey God had put me on, He knows what he is up to. This all happened within weeks of 9/11. Imagine the surprise to all those I knew when I told them I was converting to Islam. Imagine the surprise when I had my dog tags and records changed from “Christian” to “Muslim”. Many didn’t take it well, and many don’t today. But faith is like that. We don’t often have as much control as we would like to believe. If we truly believe then we will be able to carry our cross no matter what. And talk about a cross to carry! I have been called it all: Naive, Traitor, fake, etc. I have been told that I never was a Christian or good Christian to begin with and that’s how I left so “easily” as if they know! I have been asked how I could change to the enemies religion while my country was under attack, my service has been questioned, my loyalty, etc. etc. The problem is many can’t or won’t seperate the religion from the people, unless of course the religion is Christianity or Judaism! Never mind that I served another 3 years honorably in the Marine Corps as a Muslim. Never mind that I have worked for this nations highest office as a Muslim, nevermind that since the Marine Corps I have worked and served in agencies many other Americans only dream about, can only see on the outside, and in many instances don’t even know where they exist! All this as a Muslim. But I digress…All these years, not much has changed. Many still hate Islam and Muslims, many Muslims still defend their faith and themselves, and many Muslims still commit the actions that help fuel the flames of this hate. I just pray on this day of reflection, that we as Americans, that we as humanity begin to reflect more on our similarities then our differences. I pray that we overcome our prejudices and ignorance and learn to work together. I pray that we come together to destroy radicalism and extremism in all it’s forms. I pray that we realize that it is our differences that not only make God Great, but give us a reason and drive to want to get to know one another. “O men! Behold, We have created you all out of a male and a female, and have made you into nations and tribes, so that you might come to know one another. Verily, the noblest of you in the sight of God is the one who is most deeply conscious of Him. Behold, God is all-knowing, all-aware.” [Quran 49:13] http://www.whyislam.org/jihad-2/911-%E2%80%93-the-day-i-became-a-muslim/ |
| Health / Re: Man Gives Birth To Baby Girl: His Wife Is The Father (Argentina) by harbiola1(m): 6:25pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
ManiCypher: First Pregnant Man Gives Birth To A Baby Girl In Argentina (photos)LOL, |
| Religion / Re: Terry C. Holdbrooks Jr's Conversion TORI by harbiola1(m): 5:15pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
^^ Media is doing more harm than good, especially now that politicians are piloting the sector. |
| Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 4:15pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
Kay 17: |
| Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 4:12pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
Why are you not addressing my questions directly? Kay 17:Nothing comes from nothing except God (Olodumare). All these natures/forces came from something (Creator). After their creation, their role is to be in existence and comply with the law as legislated by the Creator. They can't accomplish any task without the knowledge of the Creator ~ their Lord. Hence, the assertions of " god of Thunder, Wind, Rain, Moon, Sun..." as it is being used by pagans is ill-founded, when everything is being governed by the law. Kay 17:We are talking about realistic religious system. Kay 17:This could be due to many circumstances. Kay 17:Then u've got to agree with me that the likes of Sango, Obatala et al are metaphorical gods since they were nowhere to be found in the beginning. They didn't exist in a vacuum, u made them. Kay 17:You mean they don't have an origin story or it's forgotten? pls try and explain. Kay 17:This's not to impose my belief on anybody. It's just that, in my own definition of "God", these people couldn't make the list. And if you tell me that they're and i can't prove it that they're not, then there should be a need to review my definition. When i was writing from monotheistic and realistic point of view and somebody opposed my notion. You should be able to guess the next thing. Kay 17:This concept is weak and can't be logically proven. Kay 17:You u've got to tell me more on this. |
| Religion / Re: The Seminarian Is Exposed To ... Much ... Historical Truth by harbiola1(m): 1:19pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
^^ Can you pls point at where the man was wrong? |
| Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 11:32pm On Jan 02, 2014 |
OlaoChi:Where have i cited anything Islamic here for crying out loud? So i must say anything again because i'm a muslim? OlaoChi: I've been talking as a Yoruba so far. OlaoChi:Confuse? a confused person should be corrected. OlaoChi:Lol, I knew it! Frankly speaking, Esu is not Shaytan. Shaytan (singular) or Shayatin (plural) is a name given to the follower[s] or subject[s] of a certain creature (Jinn) that disobeyed God by not bowing to Adam. They can lead men astray. but they are powerless in the case of God's people that took heed. Shayatin are not human being, but they can occupy men's heart by controlling it. thus, we start calling the person shaytan. Esu was a man like i said, and Yorubas attributed some roles of Satan/Shayatin to him. Translation of Shaytan/Satan to Eshu is an error from Yoruba-English language translator. I believe that Eshu is the closest word they could use for satan since he was already known as "he that cast confusion." And the mistake is not from the East but West, get it? OlaoChi:^^ |
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