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Uchenaija:
Has HardMirror been able to check if I have answered them?

of cos and harmirror has not seen any answers given.

Martinez19:
The Lord is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URr0O9aHW38

A must watch: seth andrews, 'christianity made me talk like an idiot'

Cc. Hopefullandlord, 1sharon

frank317:
I will not say the house was created by chance. But since I already know humans creates houses, I will wonder WHICH human created the house, it could also have been creates by many humans. I will not go all over the place saying the house was created by Mr. John.
How did u know on one being creates the universe? How did u know its God? How are u sure its not a family of some bald headed aliens with ten legs?


Since u are sure every creation has a creator... Who created ur God?


U should ask urself that question.. Where did ur intelligent creator(God) come from?

has uchenaija been able to answer these questions?

bloodofthelamb:
The Holy Spirit does not exist, you say. But yet you claim you were a Christian(like Christ) then.

Continue deceiving yourself. "If anyone has not the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him."

i also believe in that nonsense. The holy spirit is not real.

I have a pastor friend who was scolding one of his staff a few days ago, then he said one rubbish, he accused the staff of not being lead by the spirit hence reason why the staff was always making mistakes at work. I stepped in and asked him to shut the fvck up. This is a pastor that i know is as dull as an slowpoke always making mistakes yet he has the guts to accuse another human of making mistakes as if his useless holy spirit has added anything to his useless life.

You guys with your so called holy spirit are as ordinary as any human can be. That holy sh!t is in your head.

Uchenaija:
when you contemplate the order of the universe, the origin of life, or the design of that most complex of all structures on earth, the human brain, you reason that something higher than humans must exist.

Same way you cannot see radio waves, but your cell phone clearly demonstrates the reality of those invisible waves that transmit voices; so you accept that such waves exist.

Observing evidence of God in creation is like hearing the footsteps of someone approaching behind a closed door. You know that someone is there, but who is it?


The Bible is a door to knowledge about God. When you open that door and consider some of its detailed prophecies and their fulfillment, you will find evidence that God exists.

That means you must consider evidence that the Bible is true or inspired of God, if you'd have to trust the what the Bible says.

everything you have said are not proves but speculation. This in no way proves there is a god. They are as good as guesses. I have told you the only way you identify a creator is by his antecedents.

The only way you know man made things is through experience, knowing what you have seen men make. There are millions of things that are creators themselves. Insects, fishes, bacteria, fungus, the wind, the sun, water, radiation, man, stars... the list goes on and on. All these things have their own creation. The sea shells you see on the beach are not created by man, you know some mullucks created them. Sand dunes are a creation of winds in the desert... etc. So where in all these does a god appear? If i see a car, would i say the car was made by cars cos it is a car it must be made by something that is car like. A superior car. When you say god made man because man must be a product of intelligent design, and god is a superior humanoid, then you are simply saying cars shld be a product of a superior car. It makes no sense!

The only way to be sure of a god is to have evidence of god as a creator. Since no one can give such evidence, how can we jump to the conclusion that god creates anything when we have never seen god creating anything?

Uchenaija:
Does any of this seem like you? Which part? Then I can know how to make you believe in the existence of a creator.

there is absolutely nothing that links us or life as we know it with a defined creator. So start from there. Who/what is the creator and how do we know it to be true.

Uchenaija:
Have you seen air before? & still you believe it's existence.

You have still not answered my question

To you where did all intelligent creation come from?

i dont know. Do you know where they came from?

ichuka:
Dude you are the one complicating things for yourself.
Nobody born NOT of FLESH,NATURAL DESCENT and of THE WILL OF A MAN. That's born of God can revert his NEW BIRHT RIGHTS.
So ask Him
Is he Born of GOD?

hear yourself 'born of god'.... god shld give birth to him abi? Salvation is very simple, read John 3:16. For god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that who so ever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life'

Shikena, anything else you are saying is rubbish, all you need is belief. All that being born of god is just same as saying being made or reformed by god which is still saying accepting the provision of god which is only possible be believing. So stop trying to sound like you are telling us something complex

Uchenaija:
You're going through a forest & suddenly you see a beautiful house with every beautiful thing in that house but no one occupying it? Would say that house came by chance?


I've told you my stand. Every creation has a creator, & so the universe cannot come by chance but a creator for me.

Now I want to know your stand? Where did all intelligent creation come from?

you are simply repeating what i was saying.... i know that house was built by humans ONLY because it is proven that humans build houses... nothing else,... same reason why i wont assume humans built ant hill, termites do that because it is poven that termites build ant hills. So how do you know god makes humans? Have you seen a god making humans before?

Uchenaija:
I can't run off, you can count on that. I've been on the road, network going off entirely, just arrived to internet connection now.

And I'm replying every mention.

ok. Good, waiting for your reply then

bloodofthelamb, you are just a cunny person. Saying rubbish and trying to complicate very simple issues. You claim the op was never a christian, i am sure you have not opened the link he provided, go and see his comments. They are proof that he meets the requirement christ provided for those who shall be saved. What is the requirement? BELIEF! That is all just believe in God and christ that is all jesus required from us, but you guys seem to know more than jesus himself you come here saying trash just the way you guys give excuses for a person who is trusting god for healing but does not get healed, you immediately claim he does not have faith, so someone that does not have faith wld be praying in the first place? You guys are just plain dishonest and try complicating simple things to mystify and confuse people into thinking they are inadequate

HardMirror:
good reply and sensible too. We are getting somewhere.

What informs you of a creator or designer? Typically, the designer himself or the fact designers of similar products are known.

Eg. Phones. I dont have to know all the manufacturers of phones, but i know humans manufacture phones because i have seen humans who are behind the manufacture of phones. So any time i see a phone i know humans should be behind it's creation. Same goes for everything i can claim to be man made, nature made (eg sand dunes) or made by animals (eg ant hills).

Now what makes humans?

uchenaija was online for about 15mins when i posted this reply, i thought you said you were ready for me. Now he has ran off. I was waiting so we could talk this out kept refreshing so i cld answer you on time, only for you to bail on me. Na wa o

ichuka:
@OP
Being born in a religious home doesn't make one a Christain.same as attandung church meetings or program's.
A Christain is one who's born of God.(John1:12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.)
Someone that's born of God belongs to God and can't change his birth rights.

you people keep contradicting yourselves all within a sentence. Has many as received him, he gave them power to become sons of god, right? So if he was born in a christian home and told about christ, which he accepted to be true, what else do you want? All he needs is belief. The bible is very very clear on how to be a believer. Does he believe in christ as the son of god and sacrificw for the salvation of mankind? If yes, that is all. An average church goer already believes that, that is why he goes to church in the first place. Stop trying to complicate very simple matters

PassingShot:
Mugu. A group of looters you meant.

The same constituency you lost woefully in the last bye-election where you could only manage to win just the Bogoro local government.

Mark this post, Dogara’s political career is over by the time the election is done with in 2019.

Shehu Sanni is another politician who gambled with his career and he’s regretting it. He will need PMB to bail him out big time.

and buhari the man of integrity. Lol

Uchenaija:
Very ready if you can stand the heat.

Intelligent creations around suggest that they must be an intelligent creator behind it.

If that in your assumption is not true, then did they come chance or what is your conclusion od where they came from?

good reply and sensible too. We are getting somewhere.

What informs you of a creator or designer? Typically, the designer himself or the fact designers of similar products are known.

Eg. Phones. I dont have to know all the manufacturers of phones, but i know humans manufacture phones because i have seen humans who are behind the manufacture of phones. So any time i see a phone i know humans should be behind it's creation. Same goes for everything i can claim to be man made, nature made (eg sand dunes) or made by animals (eg ant hills).

Now what makes humans?

bloodofthelamb:
Thanks for the compliment. We preach what we have seen and experience.

Not hear say. Christ Jesus is the way!

lol. Smh. You just dont get it. We all were this sure in the past

bloodofthelamb:
You were just like the Samaritan's in Jesus' day who were worshipping what they know not (John 4:22).

the all knowing ones have landed.
Tell us more.

Martinez19:
. Their usual "you were never really a christian".

bro. It's their way o.

bloodofthelamb:
Martinez you were never a Christian. It is a pity that the word christian and born again have been commonised.

We have so many of your type today in the church. You only heard about God(Christ Jesus) but never knew him. God exist, by faith and humbleness of the heart you will be able to know Him, if you are interested.

Stop deceiving yourself!

NB: Mind you, you can argue and win for God but yet don't know him.

*singing*
'they have come again
They have come again
Father they have come again
Holy ghost come and take control'

frank317:
How is Jesus a supreme being? What's makes the story of a nice guy u read in the bible the story of a supreme being?
Is Jesus was a supreme being why are people doubting it? Why are Muslims doubting it? If u believe every religious story why don't u believe Mohammed was the messenger of God


And what does that make ur God? A God that cannot convince the people he creates that he is God is that one a God?


According to ur Jewish folk talk... Continue


Seriously? Have angels spoken before?

lol! This your comment made me laugh my azz out. Indeed ' a god that cant convince his creation of his existence, is that one a god?'

Oh thanks bro

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xi8ZzmW7g4

Should President Buhari Be Elected For Second Term In Office? - Nigerians React

PRESENTATION:
I always knew I was going to reject popular belief, as a kid I would say “when I get to heaven I’d ask god who created him”

lol! I missed this post. Exactly what i was saying. Every kid has had this thoughts, but somehow we quench this fire for truth. We choose norm over truth

Martinez19:
The clarity of his speech is amazing. I don't think I have seen him struggle to express himself.

because he is honest to himself. He calls america and americans exactly what they are... he does not mix words. Does not try to put emotions in what he says. Honesty at it's peak. What a man. Miss that man.

Martinez19:
September 2016 skeptical renaissance.

I started doubting, doubting and reality was dawning on me little by little.

one only needs common sense to know that god theory is a fraud.
Loved how you corrected that dude thanking god that he is alive. Guess he tot only christians are alive. Lol! Heck,... muslims, atheists, hindus, sango worshippers,... everyone is alive or dead. Has nothing to do with god. Lol. This is just common sense!

Also the fact that you realised god does not answer prayers. This is exactly why i started doubting god. Instead of answering prayers, there is always an excuse. Always! Only normal things that can happen to any person are the supposed prayers god answers

Martinez19:
September 2016 skeptical renaissance

I started doubting. Though I still identified as a christian but I was the skeptical christian demanding proof and trying to know who the god of the universe is.

i love george carlin downloaded ALL his videos i can find online. He is a straightforward no tongue in cheek bastard! Love him!

Uchenaija:
Are you stupid?

he is not stupid. Infact he has displayed a higher level of intellect by asking you a philosophical question. Now answer, what is 'nothing'?

Uchenaija:
Your own problem is you want people to identify with you by your name & you'll like to put your name on your product & yet want to deny that from the person who gave you the shit hole mouth to talk.

you mean a person gave him his mouth? Who is the person? Where does this person live? How did u know it is the person that gave him his poo hole called mouth?

Expecting your answers

Martinez19:
True. I remember asking, as a little boy, "who created god?"

unfortunately, as kids we know god existing was ridiculous but somehow we kill these thoughts because of societal pressures and threats of punishment or being ridiculed by family and friends.

Let us start with that question we had as children, has that question been answered? If no, then why do we still believe in god?

FELIX0M0R:
No o
He should have labelled the creator "frank317"..

god is a dubious answer to creation. What god? You people keep saying god god god.... which god? Where? How?

Martinez19:
FINALLY!

it is a two stage process.

1. Knowledge, getting a contrary argument to what you believe

2. Being honest to admit the bullcrap you have believed all your life.

Most people wont calm down to examine the counter arguments hence they never get to even be sincere to accept them.

We all yearn for the truth that is why almost everyone once wondered where god came from as kids. But we all kill that thought because we are afraid of the supposed consequences of questioning 'god'

Uchenaija:
Who is talking about religion here? Put religion away and let's talk like laymen.

It's all common sense. Nothing comes out of nothing. Give honour to whom it is due.

oh good! At last we have someone who wants to make sense.
I am ready hope you are too?

Agreed nothing comes from nothing, so where did everything come from? Seems you know.

Juliusmalema:
Ask BMC or BSO not me

i already know why they support buhari. Let those who are not bmc speak up