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naijadeyhia:
And you think I would indulge you when its already an establish truth here on NL?

Jesus asked his followers who people think he is and who they also think he is.. I suggest you open a seperate thread and not derail this and ask for an opinion from Nairalanders here in the religion section who they think you are. That way you would get an aggregate assessment and not deny my words.

I see why I shld not take you serious now. This is like the fourth time I am replying you here and yet you have failed to point out my "chronic lies" you conclude by saying it is an "established truth" who established the "truth" where are the lies? You are trying to evade my question by giving the excuse that you don't want to derail this thread (as if you care). Where are the lies and the evidences that they are lies?

naijadeyhia:
struggling? did you just say struggling? I laugh in atheism (if such a laughter exists)

where did the OP even remotely mention he is a gambling man such as yu have habitually become? Here I am talking sensibly and there you are dwelling on the OP using the mad man to make His millions...Why dont you cavort with the next mad man you see and use him to make your millions since your mibd is so fixated on usingmad men to make millions via betting odds yet your own opportunity you laughed it off as coincidence yet still advocating mad money to the OP.

I have told you before and I repeat...you are pathetic!

Are you through?
How does all these story prove that I am a chronic liar? U said I am a chronic liar, show me just one lie and your evidence. Simple. Not all these stories

felixomor:
But sorry, everything you accuse africans of here.

The whites and Europeans are also guilty of.

There is nothing new.

Moreover, u seem to accuse africans of not doing research and yet u arrived at some conclusions without u yourself doing research.

Its the same story all over again.

The whites were able to understand the importance of sharing discoveries and not spiritualizing them. Africans still make everything spiritual and give excuses instead of being honest. We prefer to blame spirits that can't speak to defend themselves instead of taking responsibilities

Karleb:
Food for thought.

The same way a Nigerian pastor would say his school's fee was ordained by God instead of explaining that as a Private Institution, the government do not pay your workers, the government do not build your structures and they sure don't equip your school with the adequate facilities neither do they maintain your school and that as a business person what really matters is the profit (and customer's satisfaction).

But you know it has to be spiritualised so that it doesn't get scrutinized.

Lol

naijadeyhia:
Go and face a wall or something. Here you were telling the OP to make the mad man his friend and then ask him for winning numbers to your habitual betting acts but here you told a fictional story of a similar occurrence you had but you never thought of making your own character a friend and asking him for bettinf odds.

Lying never looks good on anyone but for you its a smash hit.

Why did you not make your own story character a friend and get him to give you betting oddd afterall you were well into gambling long before August.

Pants on fire....what are the first words?

So where is the lie? I still don't see it. Lol
And did I not state that all the man did was just guess my home town, no purpose nothing and since I am not superstitious I had no need to make give him any attention, I don't get impressed easily. Let the op go ahead and make his millions.
You said I am well known as a liar, point to one lie, yet you are struggling. Does't that make you that liar?

naijadeyhia:
Would a liar admit to his lies or he would just concoct another lie to validate the existing one. I know your games so will not indulge you thereby derailing this thread. I know what I know about you and am watching you closely....sleep with that.

Everyone on NL including its owner knows I am not the kind of believer who minces words. I am a straight shooter.

Oga! Simple question give me simple direct answers. Where are the lies told by hardmirror? You just said I am a chronic liar so pointing to at least 20 lies shld not be a problem, but all I am asking for is just one lie and your evidence that it is a lie. Geez!

naijadeyhia:
Give me one reason why I should believe you when you are well known to be a chronic liar. Give me just one good reason.

Can u point to just one single lie I have told here? And your evidence that it's a lie. Thank you as I await ur full cooperation in this investigation of hardmirror's lies

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Wow! And you dismissed it as mere coincidence?

Yes I did. He guessed my home town, so what? What? What next? I shld worship him or what?

naijadeyhia:
You are pathetic to say the least. Suddenly you also have a story similar to the OP just to lie about it and discredit the OP.

Before you say mine was also just concocted I am sure you remember my thread where I laid a lot bare and the thread I talked about the death of my father months ago...you were also one of my antagonists on that thread...

Unlike you I mentioned mine 4 months ago b4 this OP and here you are fabricating your lies just now. kontinuu lying for atheism...afterall lies are nothing to atheists.

Good. So if you don't believe me, I wonder why you believe the op. Keep deceiving yourselves

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Very typical of you atheist; anything that beats your yeye, myopic logic, becomes nonsense and childish.
You always think everyone is crazy and you're the only ones sane.

I guess you're indirectly calling the OP silly, that's because he doesn't know what is saying right, but you that is not directly involved in his experience knows it better than him?

You guys display the worst type of bigotry that I have ever seen: forming science said this and did that, yet you yourselves can not do anything, except read, then come here and act like authors of knowledge.

It's obvious that your logic can not explain what the OP experienced, so just move on, instead of coming here to make a fool of yourself, thinking you're making sense.

Demons are real: they know everyone, they have background knowledge of everyone, and since they don't die, they can even tell you the name of your great grand father, through anyone or any means.

Op, I'm not surprised. These things happen and if you're aware of the realities of the world we live in, you wouldn't be surprised. I don't think there's anything to fear from the mad man.

Lol
See the op may be telling the truth. Why? It had happened to me this year August to be precise. Guess what. I went to an electrical store and the man attending to me without knowing my name and without me speaking yoruba to know. Told me were I am from precisely, not the state, but my very local government, I was surprised and impressed, so I asked him what was the purpose of him telling me were I was from, he said he just does it for fun. No purpose. Nothing achieved. Some people wld have collected his phone number believing he had special powers.
By the way, he was igbo and he was drunk that early morning. Coincidences may be rare, but they happen anyway even if the chance is 1 out of 1 trillion, it still has a chance of happening so nothing special.

The answer is Ego.

Yes, Africa would have developed far faster than the Europeans, in fact the whites should have been learning from us by now, but we lie a lot all because we want to be worshiped by our fellow men.

Moses learnt the secret arts of the Egyptians and used it to deceive the Isrealites. Particularly with the ark of covenant.

The ark of covenant is proof that africans have been building capacitors (batteries) long before Alexandra Volta.
www.electricancientegyptians.com/blog/uncategorized/ark-of-the-covenant-as-a-powerful-electrical-capacitor/
Check the link and you will discover moses learned the design from Egypt and not from "god"
Don't forget he grew up in Egypt and Egypt was one of the oldest and advanced civilization. Moses did not go back to his illiterate people to tell them he learned anything from Egypt, but he used their ignorance to his advantage.

This is exactly what our Babalawo's, herbalists, medicine men do. They are the supposed scientists of Africa, but they behave exactly like moses. Seeking recognition and reverence from their fellow men. They want to be seen as special. So when they discover any herb or poison, they disguise the whole thing, complicate the whole process and tell you they are specially connected to the gods. They ask you to bring goats, palm oil, red cloth etc all because they want to cure you of malaria. At the end they give you the real cure ( medicinal herbs and roots) but they would have complicated the whole process, adding many rituals to make it seem they are doing something special that only them can do.


Compared to the Europeans who share their scientific discoveries and never claim that the gods are working through them. They made their scientific discoveries open and questionable so that they can be improved.
but not Africans, once a Herberlist discovers the cure to a disease (By trial and error) he won't share it with others, he does not want other people to scrutinize his discovery and methods. They give spiritual excuses for their failures and make sure you cannot question their lapses. They don't improve on their methods because they give no room to be challenged. They spiritualize everything.



Our hunters have great knowledge of animals even more than the white zoologists in developed countries. But instead of being plain with their observations of the animals they encounter, they exaggerate their stories so that you will hail them as brave hunters.



Imagine that guns where invented in Africa, they would have claimed it was a spiritual weapon.

Imagine if bombs were invented in Africa, they would have claimed it was spiritual.

Imagine if mobile phones where invented in Africa, they would have claimed it was spiritual


They would have attached so many rituals to their operations to complicate the whole thing and make the user more confused so people won't ever know the knowledge behind it's operation.


We keep our discoveries secret and spiritualize them so people would think we are special. This is why Africa ended up being colonized, this is why we never developed. Europeans were being honest with their discoveries and making them public so others can contribute to what they discover and there by improve.



An african herbalist would not admit he is ignorant of some things. Out of pride he would keep pretending he can't cure an illness because the gods want the victim to die. Instead of being honest and them studying the illness. While the Europeans were busy collaborating their efforts not pretending to know it all, our own herbalists were busy pretending to have all answers.

Instead of studying how Lightening/thunder works, they wld tell you it is Sango (god of thunder) punishing you. Europeans were busy studying how Lightening works and today we all use lightening conductors to keep our homes from going up in flames during thunder storms.

We are doing the same thing all over again. Some people drank methanole in Ondo town and died from terrible side effects, we were out sacrificing chicken to the gods, in 2015! Geez, instead of studying what happened we already jumped into conclusion without research.

This is how pastors, traditional doctors, Alfas and their ilks keep fooling us and we never bother to research to understand, learn and develop lasting proven solutions.

justlove91:
It's simple, and this is what I think happened.
Have you heard of mediums before? Mediums are psychics able to contact the "dead" and receive message from them.
According to your story, the friend you told said it is a common thing that happen with that PARTICULAR mad man, and according to you the mad man called you by a name only your grandpa calls you who is now dead.
My guess is the madman is a medium and it is the spirit of your grandpa that is controlling him at that time.
And from your friend's statement, other spirits have also communicated through him, next time wait and hear what he has to say.

heheheheheh! That is how people end up taking instructions from a lunatic. Even the instructions he received from his many years of education has obviously not been put to good use, it is instructions from a mad man that he shld listen to. Hmmmm... No wonder people kill their parents claiming "god" told them to. What if the mad man asks him to kill justlove91, telling him you are the reason why he is not making progress in life? What would you say? Ohhh! You wld say that is not possible. But assume you are a close friend to this op but you just don't know he is the one, and the mad man describes you accurately to him and asks him to kill you. I am sure then you wld come back to your senses and ask him why he was listening to a lunatic in the first place.

Weah96:
This story defies credulity.

I know the op has heard these stories so he decided to personalize it to pull words out of our mouths. I have advised him. The mad man shld be able to give him sure lottery numbers. When he has made at least 50million from it, he shld come and open a thread. Then I will take him serious.

raphieMontella:
do you ever read your bible?
[color=teal]Genesis 20:12---thats your holier than thou god blessing abraham for marrying his sister[/color]


see you..moses is the product of an incestuous marriage sef
wait..how did noah's family populate the earth after the flood ?


how does what two adults do consensually in their bedroom affect your survival?

1)not necessarily a ''reason''.the reason ----deformed kids...the kids would suffer as a result of such process...
2)Incestuous connections lead to an overlap of
family relationships and social roles and thus to
a disturbance of a family bereft of [clear]
assignments i.eit destroys the family unit and structure

3)Incest most times are/involves abusive cases and underage sex
4)The two things are distinct..it is inappropriate to compare them..its just like saying..if heterosexualism is right..then rape or incest should be right...----''apples to oranges'' get it?
5)im indifferent..two consenting adults who dont want to give birth?
Hey,,What do i care?..i'm not in support of laws of prosecution for such humans

Christians don't real their bibles

addizzle:
...dont tell me u r a member of Jehovah witness dah believe Hell doesn't exist.. .my brother Hell n Heaven is real. Happy Sunday

pls my dear, enlighten me. I honestly don't think hell exists and I am not a JW.
Thanks I will be expecting your answer.

Lawlahdey:
You don't believe in Hell?

Why do you think hell exists? #justwondering

jcross19:
if I tell you, you won't believe go there and make research that's part of life adventure. Try and see stop typing what you don't know go and check it out okay.

i am 100% sure you know whatever you have to say here wont fly so you are asking us to go to a junction. just like that? we shld waste time and resources to go to an ambiguous junction?
start by telling us what you experienced there that is an iron clad proof of the existence of witchcraft.

if not for rule number 2 on nairaland i would have called you by your proper name.

Princewilla:
1. He is not from my village.
2. I don't know much about demons, can you give me any useful insight?

when will you folks get sense?
someone has given you a very good advice up there, go back and start feeding him in return for sure lottery winnings. when you have made at least 50 million naira from his predictions, then you can mention me again so i will take you serious.
i dont have time for all these yeye talk childish tales by moon light

AfonjaStinks:
If i say that women are naturally ignorant, some people will start crying

My friend, you belong in za oza room

Those irritating legs pays him £87,000 every week, about 1 billion naira every year coupled with his endorsements, while you are busy drinking garri

You have no job and still live with your parents and takes selfies in people's car pouting your lips like a local dog and smearing your face with excessive makeup

Adebayor is a professional footballer who gets injured most of the time, he undergoes different types of surgery 12 times every year, why wouldn't his legs be irritating ??

Little Kid, if you get tackled the way he gets tackled on the field, you wouldn't be alive to be opening your stinky mouth, can you run on the field for 90 minutes ??

Women are naturally dumb

2 bottle of orijin for my guy. Nice one jare.
Don't mind all those dumb girls.

Nice thread.
If the bible is true then why are there compelling evidences supporting reincarnations?
Who shld we take serious?
Those who say after death - judgment or those who say we keep reincarnation. And they come forward with stunning evidence?

Seun, lalasticlala

Let's talk about reincarnation.

TNE I stumbled upon your song in my play list today and kind of makes me wonder what you've been up to with your music career.

I don't know your nairaland handle so pardon me

taurus25:
If there's ever been clear cut proof for a supernatural regrowth of an amputated limb, no christain would have trouble providing it.

Evidence for such a thing would speak for itself.

We hear accounts of pretty much every kind of ailment been healed everyday, but the case of amputees seems to be very perculia.

Does god hate amputees that much?

How I broke free from christianity is still a miracle to me. Me! Atheist?! How will it happen?, but here I am today laffing at the stupidity of my past.

IykeChukz:
A bitter pile for zombies to take...

Nigeria belongs to everyone and nobody.

All hail Aba Made!

Smh This I too bad Must every thing be zombies and wailers? Tell me, why was Jonathan not patronizing Aba? Better stop all these zombie nonsense and praise good things

felixomor:
Please give us some examples of what u call "coincidence" ?

Getting money when hoping for some (I know christians love money)

winner01:
Good conclusion!!!

Remind me who you are again to make such conclusion

Oh now I understand. And you have found God after trying ALL the other gods you finally found the one true one.
How many gods did try? This guy sef

winner01:
I was not born a christian, ive lived my life free of religion. I made my findings and got the truth. Its not my fault, you dont like deeper life.
Plus, is all this campaign about your son who has downs syndrome. I want to let you know, im praying for your son and your family. But your hate will do you no good.

Now that's a new one. Ur god can rectify down's syndrome? Lol
Abeg just stick to those petty things that can happen by coincidence lest you embarrass yourself.
These people are funny

winner01:
God answers prayers, and that remains a fact until you can prove otherwise. Im not distracting you from anything neither have you posed any reasonable question to me.

There is more good in the world than evil. We cant allow you to close our eyes to that. Many efforts to rape have been thwarted, many deaths averted.

Besides, if the dead is already in heaven enjoying and God is wicked. Its simple.
Like I told lennycool, take some policemen, go to heaven and do justice to God.

Yes he answers prayers that even trees and rocks can answer. I have discovered your God can only do things that can happen by chance.

winner01:
God answers prayers, and that remains a fact until you can prove otherwise. Im not distracting you from anything neither have you posed any reasonable question to me.

There is more good in the world than evil. We cant allow you to close our eyes to that. Many efforts to rape have been thwarted, many deaths averted.

Besides, if the dead is already in heaven enjoying and God is wicked. Its simple.
Like I told lennycool, take some policemen, go to heaven and do justice to God.

The whole point is, "this god does not exist".
That is the only way mundane progress is being made and thought to be answered prayers. But those children will cry to god and die crying most times without an answer. That is why a 2 year old would be raped and the rapist get away with it. Its not possible for a god to exist that provides me with dozens of ties and shirts but fails to attend to cases like that of these children. That is the whole point.

winner01:
If evil men rips children and send them back to God, the best we can do is to arrest and jail such men for life, not hate God.

On your thread, i gave an example of a woman who was raped over 100 times by her dad, Today she is a strong christian and God is using her against child abuse and molestations. Presently, i have a girl who is being raped by her dad, we have freed her from that life and she is beginning to pick up the remains of her ego. She has a bright future and we will do all we can to help her acheive that despite the evils of her dad. She does not need to hate God for it, she only needs to accept those challenges and become a better Person. its the only way to repay evil.

40million rapes can be reduced by our law enforcement agancies and those girls will be given a new life in love.. I still dont know how spreading hate will help.

What are you doing to stop evil? should be the question. Not hate God because of evil.

Of cos we arrest and jail those we catch. What of those we don't catch. Why is it our job to do that? Are we more responsible than ur supposed god?

winner01:
lol. Just chill.

Show me a verse in the Bible where God claims he will wipe evil of the earth and we will live in a perfect earth with the devil and his angels on earth. At least you claim to be an ex-pastor.

Have you forgotten the parable of the wheat and tares.

I will continue to thank God, help people I can and love more. Its quite sad tgere is nothing you people can do about that.

Of course your supposed god does not promise that. And yes the tares and wheat are to grow together until harvest. So why does god bother to answer mundane prayers but does not answer important prayers? Or having 13 pairs of suit is more important than these children?
If god interferes at all in man's affairs, why not this children? That is the question don't try and distract us from that

winner01:
Okay Bro. If you say so. Just know it does not make it so.

Evil exists temporarily, ive made myself clear on that. Temporary is not the same as permanent.

Atheism begins to make a whole lot of sense when you become sincere with yourself.
I just smile when you christians try to justify the responsibility of your supposed god.
I opened a thread on rape, see how insincere you folks were. If my dad was at the scene of my 2year old daughter being raped and he does nothing to stop it, you would say he is an irresponsible father, but your supposed god is supposedly witnessing the over 40million rapes that involves children who have no chance of defending themselves. And your god I am sure you wld claim loves those children more than I could ever love them. And yet you have babies being ripped apart by dirty evil men. And God seats back to enjoy the live porn. Right?
God heals you folks claim. He does it all the time. But we see no amputees growing limbs. Healing them shld be at the same rate as headache is cured since nothing is difficult for God.
Your insincerity is exceptional

winner01:
God permits evil temporarily, it does not discredit the existence of God.

Most of those kids whose picture you have posted are back in heaven with their Maker free from the evil on earth.

God has created earth which can provide for mans need, not greed and foolishness.

Stop being a bigot.

Lol
See rubbish talk.
God supposedly answers your own prayers, gives you food, gives you a job, gives you a wife, gives you a car, blesses you with an extra car, blesses you with even one more extra car, a range rover or G wagon. You have multiple suits and nice shirts, all blessings of God. Does that mean you won't make heaven too?
So making heaven is not a function of their suffering on earth. Why can't God feed then and also guide them to make heaven has I suppose he is doing with you and the brood of vipers you call your church members.