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mecussey:
You have too much knowledge...and it look like it combined with wisdom. This is sorrow and purnishment in disguise, I will advise you to read proverbs and ecclestiatis...in order to free ur brains. My bro you are suffering...i can imagine what your brain calculates every minute.

Seeing supposedly educated people promoting ignorance is really mind bugling. What do you mean by my having "too much" knowledge being a thing of sorrow?

kally234:
Your story is not new, over the years there have been many backsliders who got weary of Jesus Christ and walked out on him, the good thing about the christian faith is that Christians will still love you and want you to return to your first love, the fact that you have decided to throw Christ out of the window is not new, Even Judas did same and Jesus did not force him to rethink his decision

Christianity is about a peace with God, there are many who cared nothing for the peace with God and the peace of God
You are not a star by Backsliding, It is unfortunate the modern day social gospel peddled around makes many thik they are, Backsliding is a pathetic state and it is not worth celebrating
especially considering the word of God concerning Backsliding

Lets not even talk about your stance as an atheist, Because the Bible already settled that.

The Holy Bible gave the reason that this post is trying so hard to justify

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19

One could be zealous for Christ, one can work for God so to say but may never have walked with God
That is the reason for many defections these days

Working for God is totally different from working with God
A man can work for God and be frustrated but working with God is a blessed experience and you cannot truly work with God and not work for the kingdom

A genuine experience with Jesus will not make a man celebrate Backsliding, you will even hide you shame and seek the lord
until he restores you

May God in mercy restore you

I don't need his useless mercy. Let him use the mercy to feed the those who live in abject poverty

damogul:
A lot of Atheists who are busy trying to derail this thread know that they and sensationalism are 5 and 6 and if this is pursued would mean an end to the tales they spin which are mostly lies.

Be you Christian or Muslim or Atheist...Give us a sensational story then be ready to back it up with proof. That is what this is all about however Otem will be the first Guinea pig.

How can lies be bandied to people as truth without checks being done on them? Everywhere on NL we read about lies which nobody has bothered to check up on and everyone swallows it hook line and sinker and seeds of bitterness and hatred get sown. Its absurd

Why use otem, why not start with me ? I can imagine the earthquake that wld follow your discoveries. I am sure from calling me a liar you folks will come up with another story cos you wld really be helping kill christianity

damogul:
Why is it that when it comes to anything that has to do with Christians you lose every intelligent form of reasoning?

So you failed to understand my initial comment to you. Let me quote it again and highlight what you need to grab

Your problem runs deep. Deeper than even you know. Here we are talking about Otem and what is clearly a false story and here you are springing one about another thread. You guys are so lucky Seun is an Atheist and seems to cover your asses but if it were my forum, every sensational tale must be backed with proof as i would not want to be linked with falsehood. Oh you guys are indeed lucky!


This shows i stand on the side of verification and not mere stories. Everyone including myself must back up claims with proof otherwise its all sensationalism and falsehood. Surely even you should be able to understand this.

Naijadeyhia or what do you call yourself, just shut the F up. You come here saying I am known for my lies but just point to one lie and you start telling stories. I am still waiting for the lies you accuse me of. I am here on nairaland and going no where, please disgrace me, prove me to be a liar, try and shame me, you have lots of leads you can work woth from my story. By the way is this thread not about otem? Or is this how much hardmirror gives you Christian wannabes sleepless nights? (cos u aint christians to the slightest)

hopefulLandlord:
this is what you have to say?

where is the proof of YOUR sensational tale of Hardmirror's lies when he asked for it?

If not that they have eyes but can't see, even the Azo I mentioned in my story showed up on the thread, 3 other FUTA alumni's showed up on the thread. All the people I mentioned are real and ASF is still in FUTA, just take the story there and they will tell u who hardmirror is. Christians here can call me anything they like, fact remains I am yet to meet any of them that has achieved half of what I have achieved. How many of them have over 300 converts they know by name and thousands of converts they don't know by name. How many churches have they opened? How many outreaches or crusades have they held. How long can they tarry in prayer? How many days do they fast in a year. Do they fornicate? Many of them here are chronic sinners claiming to be christians, reason why I don't even take them serious.

hopefulLandlord:
you seem to like pulling red herrings, hoping people won't see through it and you're simply digging your hole further

so, you've now "switched" your reason for calling Hardmirror a chronic liar to the reason you gave up there? investigative journalism?

if that were the case; you would've stated it when he asked you to point to JUST ONE lie of his, you didn't tell him that its because he's yet to give a proof of his stories; all you did was run around saying things like "its an established truth that he's a liar" and that he should "open a thread and ask members what they think of him"

let me post that part of the conversation again
while bolding the part







Red Herring attempt failed

Abeg, you no get point

Otem, I'm still waiting for the proof of damogul using one account to defend claims of his other accounts

I think it is visible to the blind the many accounts he uses to support himself here. Just watch out for those accnts calling people "chronic liar" here. Seems it is his favorite phrase.

Rexceedo:
The man is not fake bro, tune to his channel @prophetic channel in no distant time you will be convinced!

That means you are very gullible. Have you seen pastor bashiri walking on air? I mean he levitated . Have u seen it? I have seen a lot of his "miracles" and I have seen enough to know he is a scammer. That video were he levitated exposed him. Using tricks and video editing. Unfortunately for him and fortunately for those who have eyes, his editors made some mistakes and we could see the two men holding him up, they tried to edit the men out, but we could see their foot and shadow, also failed to edit their sounds out of the video .
If a man can go to that extent to deceive, tell me why I shld believe his other "miracles" let me not even talk of his "Ipad miracle". That one too was poorly edited. Why shld a true man of god be making edited videos to deceive people? Take note of his urshers in this video, you will notice they were very mechanical and lacked emotions, showing they know it is the usual scam.

luvinhubby:
Just pray you do not ever have to need a miracle in your life, you will be forced to believe in one.

Just pray you do not ever need a miracle, you will know that all these miracles are fake then. I have inlaws that are strong believers and the mum died of cancer despite all the faith and assurance that she was healed. Let's keep deceiving ourselves here, go to hospitals and see reality.
Pastor bashiri that is a renowned scammer? Lol

Zoharariel:
TB Joshua, Oonii kuure with the scripture you're quoting. The foolishness of you & your God that couldn't reveal to you the impending doom & collapse of your building - Oloshi Oloriburuku.

That is the only reason I fell out with Babatunde Fashola for not incarcerating your black monkey ass for the death of hundreds of innocent South Afrikans.

We can't all be as dumb as your gullible, brainwashed & brain-dead followers.

A fake dubious fvcking prophet who sells anointing water for 5k. I wonder where in the bible Jesus did the same - Omo ale jati-jati ikeji aja!

A big amen. I so love this comment
Don't mind the idiot.

soulhighman:
. Go school, dem no gree.

1 million tonnes a single farm can produce. He shld go and check canadian and american farms how they produce millions of tonnes of wheat all from a single farm. Don't we have fertile lands or what makes it impossible. All we need is commitment and government shld help with mechanization, processing and storage.

soulhighman:
Which school did you attend. Can't you see the 1000 written in bracket at the top? It simply means you multiply all the values you see there by 1000. Which means China produces 144,000,000 not 144,000.

Next time, give it to literate people to help you interpret data if you don't know how to.

Don't mind him. I just posted the same thing now. So many empty heads in this forum

ShinnBet:
Bloody liars


The worlds leading rice producer is China with just an annual turnover of 144,000 tonnes


Why must these people always lie?

Smh
I am not a buhari supporter at all, but you just goofed. Are u sure you went to school at all? Even a secondary schl student knows how to interpret tables. Look at the header of the column did you notice that 1000? It means what ever is under that column shld be multiplied by 1000, so 144,000 X 1000= 144,000,000 tonnes. Do you understand now?

How can china be producing 144,000 tonnes in a whole year with their population of about 2 billion people and yet they still export to other countries? Use your brain.
I don't like buhari because he is handling the economy very badly but it shld not be enough reason to turn to an idiot because I want to label him as bad.
That 1million tonne is very achievable under a year, consult with those who are farmers. It is because we don't practice mechanized farming at an industrial level here. A single farm can produce that amount. Just google the largest farms in the world and you will be shocked. There are farms that are over 1 million hectares. That is over 12million plots of land owned by just 1 person.

Icansing:
Win and get my pussy

u mean they can cut the pusssy off and take it away Issorite.

felixomor:
Bros, u have confirmed ur layman status.

Please use ur google and check the features of methanol poisoning and whether its contagious or not.
And the speed at which it kills and how ot does and ask yourself such a question.

Even the WHO experts who investigated the deaths arrived at a hypothesis of herbicide poisoning.
They did not conclude.

Moreover, that your diagnosis is coming from NAFDAC lab confirms its the drink that was tested.
And hence based on the assumption that the dead people took alcohol.
There is an error there.

I was waiting to see the name of the pathologists who found Methanol in the fluid samples from the corpses. I couldn't see.

There is something I have been telling people like u who claim to be scientific.
Dont be shallow even while u Believe what you choose to believe.

If u had really questioned that methanol diagnosis the way you usually question religious beliefs you would have found that those deaths had more things to them.

U would have kept it open.

So it was the gods that killed them? Or what is your point?

felixomor:
I am still waiting for how the author of this thread to explain how he arrived at conclusion of methanol poisoning.

He seems to be busy accusing others of conspiracy theories.

Hmmmm....

I intentionally ignored you before but to help you sleep better, here it is https://www.channelstv.com/2015/04/25/test-confirms-methanol-poison-caused-ondo-deaths/

Pidgin2:
I was happy having him around initially because even though I wasn't a strong Christian at that time, he led us on by repeatedly playing Christian music for the first few weeks after we moved in. But soon enough he stopped playing anything when he knew we were in, infact, he will purposely put off any form of noise once he knew we were in, even putting off his generator and remaining in darkness just because he knew we around. I can't be part of this analysis bro, take care.

Ok sis.
I know you have already condemned him as a wizard and wld find every excuse to keep that up. Let's forget it

MrPresident1:
You see ignorance on display by you?

Jesus Christ is black, Jesus Christ is the codename for the black leadership of the earth. If Jesus Christ does not come, the black people will never rise. The kingdom of Jesus Christ is an everlasting kingdom, so you have not heard this? I thought you were once a pastor or something

Jesus Christ is coming to rule! And no Jupiter can stop him. He coming to rule the whole earth.

My ignorance? Lol you mean of this black jesus myths and conspiracy theories. I am well aware of them but are they facts, is jesus coming back, what black kingdom are u waiting for. Are u rasterfarian?

MrPresident1:
You see!

This is the ignorance I am talking about!

Rome at a point was ruled by BLACK WARRIOR EMPERORS!

READ and stop spreading ignorance.

Jesus Christ is black.

You are just so funny. So what?
Even if god is black, where did you get your info that the world is supposed to be ruled by blacks and wld end that way?

Pidgin2:
In front of her, when she could finally breath (she said she was struggling with someone in his frame who it seemed, was trying to choke her)

Okay so after your analysis will this make you believe in the supernatural? I have a feeling it won't. But I'm not trying to convince you of their existence, I only narrated an experience.

Sister, the problem is not in winning me, let us all seek truth in everything we do. Personally I left christianity when I discovered it is all based on faith no matter what, just believe. This is a recipe for deception. Let's leave that, if it's true then it's true. But look at it from all angles. Could she have seen his shadow because she had all along been suspecting him (so it's just her imagination?) The story does not add up you know. It is all based on verge suspicions not evidences. People usually think old people are possessed because of how they behave and their wrinkled body, your landlord is not old but he is unlikeable could this have made u develop a an identity for him because of his personality?
Forget the cats and stones and animal noises those are nothing supernatural.

CHARLOE:
I think what helped d white people was that they had laws like intellectual property right and they keep proper records. Their inventors/discoveries are documented, celebrated & rewarded.
Unlike here where d govt no send u
I've a family friend, a doc, who told me that whatever othordox medicine can't handle in his clinic, he usually refers d patients to a native doc in a village somewhere in delta. He said all d patients he sent to this baba (with ailments orthodox medicine practitioners refer to as incurable) come back treated, hale & hearty. But d baba refuse to tell him d secret herbs he uses cos he's scared of losing his source of livelyhood.

You are making a lot of sense here.

MrPresident1:
Oh, so I am the one that mentioned white people? Pathetic boy. Now tell me, who are the people in charge of the world at this time?

Candidate for hell, lmao! We are all in hell!

By the way, where did god mention it that the world wld be ruled by blacks?

MrPresident1:
Olodo, slave of white people, listen good.

Kingdoms rise and kingdoms fall, no kingdom rules forever. God appoints rulers over the earth. Mr atheist fool!

There was Nimrod who built Babylon, he ruled and he died, his kingdom expired.

There are the famed Pharaohs, have you heard of Tutankhamen, Rameses, and Amose? They ruled the earth, their time came and they expired.

Have you heard of Cyrus and Xerxes? They ruled the earth, their time came, and they expired.

Have you heard of Alexander the Great? He ruled, his time came and he expired.

Have you heard of the Emperors of Rome? They ruled, their time came, and they expired. Do you know that Rome had black emperors? How can you know. Olodo buruku!

Everyone has his time, Oyinbo only started to rule recently, they have not ruled forever, and they will not rule forever.

Look here, you are just a pathetic clown, you know absolutely nothing. Do you know that there was a time your gods were wild and roaming on all fours in the wilderness of the Caucasus mountains? You can never know. Gerrarahere!

Bros cool down. Who is worshiping whites here, I am a proud african and I want to see africa great again. As I clearly started we once lead the world technologically and scientifically, but by spiritualizing our methods and findings we lost this position. Ego to me is the root cause. Our forefathers wanted recognition and they failed to share a lot of their scientific discoveries. The lapses were covered up with spiritual mumbo jumbo to make their errors unquestionable.

If we had laid all our discoveries out with sincerity we could have developed them faster and been ahead of the whites.

Pidgin2:
Lol she said she saw his shadow and she moved out the house for a while afterwards. You guys just like doubting right? Enjoy. It's a free world, you can keep acting like they don't exist, it's your call.

No no no, don't get it wrong. I don't like doubting, I love being sure, many "facts" out there are nothing but fabrications aimed to deceive or conceived out of ignorance or paranoia.
So pls don't get offended or feel I aim to discredit you.
So back to the issue. She saw his shadow where? Let's put the whole thing together and arrive at a conclusion. If we go about believing everything wld that make sense to you? So one step at a time pls

Pidgin2:
If you like tire, dem go soon show you, continue

We wey dey experienced dey tell you yet you still dey doubting. Just continue denying it.

So god did not create nocturnal animals? Or what are u implying? Are black cats not natural god's creation anymore? What is special or supernatural about stones being thrown on your roof? Sleep paralysis can happen to anyone you chose to blame your landlord for it doe not make him connected to it.

Pidgin2:
Hahaha, I wasn't a strong Christian then maybe he would have sent us packing long before then if I was one

There are many psychiatric disorders that can make people act strange. I think we mistake this for witchcraft that is why most times it's old people that are labeled as witches/wizards because they are more susceptible to this disorders.

There is nothing witchy about your experience above to me.

Pidgin2:
Picture this, my friend rented a house. The landlord had previously told her some inconsistent stories but since she had already paid she felt maybe if she invited someone to share the place with her she would feel better about the place, so she invited me and I accepted.

Soon we began to notice weird things like, at night something kept hitting our roof. It sounded like stones, several stones hitting the roof. Then we would hear all types of weird animal noises, right in front of our house. And as soon as he knew I was not a temporary visitor, he began to attack me physically. Due to these things, especially the noises of stones being thrown at our roof at night we became uneasy.

To cut the long story short, my friend was pressed one afternoon while she slept(after that day, she temporarily deserted the house). This guy lived alone (he had a black cat of course and it cried all night long ) no wife, no kids, no friends, no visitors all year long(except for his gardener who called him MASTER) . He never left his house apart from when he had to go to market to get thngs. He was filled with hatred and looked scary.

FF, after so many weird things someone advised us to pour something around the house, she said if he was really a wizard then he will ask us to move that same day, well after everything we finally moved out by force that night because he threatened to spill blood We got some military guys to help get our rent back and he paid swiftly.

Interesting, so you used military guys to get your rent back from him and he is a wizard. Since when did military become more effective in handling wizards than the holy ghost fire u people shout every time

hahn:
Personally, I do not even believe in those stories. None of them at all.

But your theory makes sense

I believe them to a great extent, but the power of a story is in how it is told. They are highly exaggerated, to put in the God factor to make them seem special and chosen. When you read between the lines you will get a good grip of the true story and the motives behind the lies added

DeSepiero:
He didn't accuse Africans of 'not doing research', he blamed them for egoistical hoarding knowledge.

You dey mind felix?

raphieMontella:
i swear..he just plagiarized egyptian trick and all that..
The ten commandments stolen from the 42 principles of Maa't...etc

Baba nla fraud.
He was just fooling the isrealites and using them to create his own kingdom, but most likely joshua silently poisoned him and claimed it was god that killed him.

felixomor:
And how many whites have u sampled to know that they dont blame spiritual reasons?

Simple question.

Show me how u arrived at that conclusion.

You obviously don't know history and don't care to, else you won't be asking me this question. Check out the history of every scientist that we enjoy their discoveries today, how they shared their knowledge and discoveries openly unlike their african counterparts that prefer to be celebrated for hoarding their discoveries. We can name scientists from 12th century, 15th century, 20th century from europe, name africans that contributed anything to the scientific knowledge we have today from those centuries.. NONE! Why? It's not because they did not have scientific discoveries, they do, but they prefer hoarding their knowledge and making it all spiritual. Use ur brain and stop asking me silly questions

Pidgin2:
Lol, the irony of this issue is that real witches and wizards will be posting here and trying to convince people that they are not real because it is good for them that you don't believe they are real so that they can operate without restrictions and also initiate the skeptical

You have a very healthy imagination capability.
Even satan is posting on nairaland. God, satan, jesus, zeus, krishna, are all here on nairaland posting.

naijadeyhia:
Unlike you i do care about the truths in this thread as I am not as close minded as you are and would not want to be your pawn towards the derailing of such an honest innocent truthful thread. So do yourself a favour and don't take my accusations seriously if thag would help you but do go a step further by asking nairalanders via a separate thread who they think you are. When done with the survey you can tag me.

Hehehehehe
This man sha.
Who made you the judge of truths and lies on nairaland? Lol
I guess you were there with the op when the mad man called him by his full names and you are yet to point to a single lie I ever told here, don't forget the evidences too o