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jonbellion:
lol nice try Don't you even want to liberate yourself Do you realise no one believes you anymore

My story remains true and verifiable. I have nothing to liberate myself from

damogul:
By the way HardMirror can you remember who the CACCF president for 2009/2010 and for 2011/2012 were?

Remember your story declared from 2007 to 2012.

Have you forgotten you are so sure I am not who I claim to be. How do you want me to know who the presidents where, when I have never been to Nigeria talkless of futa

lilbest4:
Uhhmmm... This is actually unfortunate.
I have never loved Islam in my life but I see no reason why I should sit down and compose stories to discredit it.

The point of someone dying of ulcer is a lie But most things he said about Christianity are actually true. the mistake was tagging it "A True Life Story" .

Bros Hardmirror please be matured and apologize to the Christians

At bolded even if I eventually got the name, I won't post it. But me saying what I know happened for sure is a lie, that won't ever happen. Don't tell me they are ending this investigation with this dead brothers name, why are they avoiding other evidences?

lilbest4:
Uhhmmm... This is actually unfortunate.
I have never loved Islam in my life but I see no reason why I should sit down and compose stories to discredit it.

The point of someone dying of ulcer is a lie But most things he said about Christianity are actually true the mistake was tagging it a "A True Life Story" .

Bros Hardmirror please be matured and apologize to the Christians

I am not apologizing. As far as I know, what I say is true

damogul:
Stand by your words by dropping proof of your words oga. "Ask around" and get us the name. Shouting everyone down only helps in raising more dust. I am giving you the opportunity to do the right thing which is why i gave you till 6pm. I can be nice like that.

One question.
Who you epp. Who are you giving till 6pm, your servant?

Howmon:
Here is a follow-up email from Mr. HardMirror.

I may no longer respond to talks on this issue. Thank you guys. Pls note my System's clock is an hour early. Mac Config bear with me.

cc
TheSixthSense
damogul
NPComplete
Suprementos
analice107
raphieMontella
jcjoof
Gombs
hopefulLandlord
jonbellion
OneManLegion

You want me to take you serious after you boldly claimed you don't know anyone I mentioned in my thread? And you want me to take you serious? You are not serious.

You folks have been labeling me a liar and you are being mischievious saying you know none I mentioned. To what end did you do that?


I stand by my words and you can all do your worse if you think that is what would make God happy with you and reward you for fighting for him.

damogul:
I think you need spectacles. Howmon posted your email convo with him by himself and it had nothing to do with me. So how can we be the same people?

Are you now looking for another window of escape? Guy start asking around for that name. I have been more than fair on you

You have been fair? In what? Are you the one feeding me? Are you the one paying my bills? Even my parents can't say that to me talkless of you. I stand by my story, I will be here for a long time to come. Die if you want to

damogul:
You contacted Howmon offline and then quickly came back on here to post this below



You quickly tried to discredit him even before he said anything and i am sure that was what pushed him to post your email convo with him.

You tried creating a window of escape by first trying to label him before his enquiry went too far.

Meanwhile you are wasting precious time. 6pm is your deadline to produce that name so get busy with "asking around"!

I won't even bother to get his name again. 6pm will pass, come and kill me if I don't provide the name. Are you howmon? I am so sure of my facts, even if I have lost the name. Let you all do your worse. My "Pastor to atheist" story stands and stands true. I am just getting started

TheSixthSense:
He is clearly dishonest and I cannot be convinced otherwise. For someone that insisted that the christian should stand for truth and his refusal for posting the name was for ethical reasons. Imagine the tone disparity between the email and his voice here in the forum. Erratic memory indeed, for someone that he constantly referred to as brother who had died from ulcer from fasting but he can't even remember his name or even describe him. Even pa Buhari didn't forget VP Osunbade's name completely What else Mr Hardmirror can't you remember? Praying for at least 6 hours, fasting for more days in a year, converting over 300 people, word of knowledge, speaking in tongues...casting demons? The extent people go seeking relevance. If only NL pays for views and comments, he would have made bank with his threads but he did all these for free. Na wa.

Howmon, wld it not have been better to post the mail here? That would have been fairer. Now I am suspicious of all these folks claiming to be caccfites. Howmon could be damogul for all I know now. I understand the conspiracy clearly now. If you folks think I would go into hiding, you are all dreaming. Howmon, pretending to be fair, but having a conspiracy with his fellow deluded party here. Glad damogul does not know how to talk so he has exposed you for who really you are and what really you aim to achieve.

damogul:
FOR THE SAKE OF FAIRNESS. IN THE EMAIL HARDMIRROR SAID THAT HE COULD ASK AROUND FOR THE NAME OF THE DEAD BROTHER SO I WILL BE FAIR.

HE HAS TILL 6PM TO DIVULGE THAT NAME HE SO CONVENIENTLY FORGOT AND THEN PROVE WRONG THE OTHER ACTIVE CACCF MEMBERS WHO HAVE SAID NOBODY DIED IN 2009 AND 2010.

FAILURE TO DO THIS, NEW THREAD WITH ALL EXPOSES WILL BE UP BY 6.15 WITH A LINK TO THIS ONE AND I PRAY THE NL MODS WOULD BE EQUALLY FAIR ENOUGH TO PUSH IT TO THE FRONT PAGE.

HARDMIRROR OVER TO YOU!

@ bolded, excuse me. In what mail? I am yet to receive a reply from Howmon time is 12:15pm now. So what mail? Are you howmon? And why shld howmon choose to share my mail with you even before replying me?

damogul:
You are too jumpy for a person who knows what he is saying is the absolute truth. Relax! The truth always finds a way to surface no matter how you try to gesticulate and shout it down or distract. It still speaks.

Abeg, just shut it. Who is jumpy? You that has been calling me a liar even without any proof? Howmon is all you are latching on to now, you and your folks here are just noise makers. Someone claimed she had evidence she was going to release yesterday that wld prove I never attended futa, where is it. The brother exists and died and I have asked u to stay tuned.
Afterall I know your antiques, you are not after the truth, you are only after discrediting me, so don't come here pretending.

analice107:
You are forgetting Howmon is not the only guy who graduated in that school, and who was also in that fellowship. Will two of them lie?

Watch it. he will post WhatsApp exchange from their group.

You are so fortunate I have people I still respect on this thread, else do you think you are of any importance? You are here feeling like a madam. Someone even said I am on trial. It really made me laugh, on trial? For real? I could choose not to answer anyone, but I will try and corporate with the brothers from caccf, if not for them I wld ask you to scream to high heavens and totally ignore you.
Hope you still maintain your stand that I never attended Futa. Pls do and stand by your word.
You are forming chief investigator without even doing any investigation. Where are the results of the investigation you promised to release yesterday? You said you had information to reveal I never attended the schooln where is the report?
Smh.

jcjoof:
While urging hardmirror to retrace his step back to Christ I will not want him to bring CAC Campus Fellowship FUTA into his story because I was one of the leaders in the fellowship for the session he quoted and we did not have record of anyone that died due to fasting. I will still want to refer to him as brother because I know that it is still in the power of God to save him and others like him. Jesus will like to receive him and others like him back once they are ready to come back to Him..

How did I bring the fellowship into this whole controversy? You have people here even saying it with confidence that I never attended futa, talkless of my story being true. Deny it all you want. Why I have avoided this caccf issue is because it would become the subject of discussion, but if you people want it this way, then let's proceed, we wld soon know who lies.

NPComplete:
Common dude. I am beginning to suspect u are not being truthful urself. U want to claim u don't know Pastor Ogundare? Or Olusola Areogun? Or the loves domain peeps? Common. U have to know one of those names he mentioned or ur story should be followed with caution. These are people JCCF or any other fellowship invite almost every time every year.

Lol
Chill and watch, I am still observing this howmon of a guy. He could be playing mischief himself. He claims he does not know a single name I mentioned and he claims he graduated from futa. Smh. Christians can be terrible people. All in the name of fighting for God, they wld lie.
Howmon,...hmmm... Anyway let me assume you are who you are and let's see how our offline correspondence goes.

TheSixthSense:
Let's give him the benefit of doubt. He may be asleep. It still quite early or maybe the contact should ring him.

Bro don't stress it. I know they are a pack of wolves desperately waiting for my story to be debunked. That won't happen. Truth is truth. Need not say more. I await howmon's reply so his findings about me and the story would be made known here.

damogul:
The Clock is Ticking HardMirror!

You are dreaming. I stand by everything I have said on nairaland. I know you badly want my story to be a lie, unfortunately for you, all is about to be confirmed. Stick around.

Howmon:
Thank you my brother, your fears are well placed when you said what if I deny it. Let it be known that CACCF is an active fellowship with an active alumni fellowship. Your guy has not mailed me. If He has I will say it categorically. I have nothing to lose or gain from confirming His story. Our alumni fellowship is on whatsapp and I will send snapshots of conversations with the fellowship to confirm to u there is no reason to hide the name of anyone. He made the claim he should do well to tell us the name. I don't even know this hardmirror guy, can I know the year he graduated and the year He went for this outreaches and under which fellowship did He go on outreach.

That is a good idea, as to not knowing me, don't worry about that, you will confirm it all soon. I have replied you. I am not a member of caccf, but Asf and the brother in question sometimes comes to use our fellowship tent (when the fellowship was still off redemption street). Let's keep this open and let's be honourable. I know you are still a christian, I am not asking you to help me, but what ever you do, STICK TO THE TRUTH and BE HONOURABLE. I have seen so many people ready to beat me to pulp for my confessions, even here you can see how many are calling for my head. But I will wait and see what you do with this. Right now the investigation of NOT JUST THE DEAD BROTHER, BUT ALL MY CONFESSIONs lie on your shoulder.

Howmon:
How do u mean you've not seen my reply yet. Check well oh, as u can mail me now. Not seen your email and I responded okay to the request I got from you. I'll still respond again now.

Check now

Howmon:
You may mail me now

Howmon, not gotten your reply yet. I am posting now because I could be busy most times. Hope we talk soon

Seun, lalasticlala, I think this thread deserves attention. Is it possible to make a withdrawal on an empty account?

I agree with the folks above, it must be a system glitch. But it had happened to me before. The account was empty and the bank decided to remove their ridiculous monthly charges which put the account at a negative of about N1,800.
So it is possible your empty account was debited by the bank and not you

analice107:
Did you read the Op or just jumped to this page?
We "l" am called out here as a liar who lied against Hardmirror. I am here to present his lies, fine, but to Set this matter straight, he has to answer certain questions, and here you are saying he shd not answer the questions. So who lied now?

If he is telling the truth, why is he declining to mention the name?

I will tell u why. The Fellowship he claimed the dead guy was, the yr he claimed the guy died. there is someone here who was in that fellowship. A choir member, and who graduated that year. The guy challenged Hard mirror to mention the name of he who died because of his service to God.

He cannot because he knows his lies will spill out.

Instead he asked the guy to investigate and come up with a name. You see sense?

If you are sincere, tell him to mention the name.

Chill, howmon, attended Futa, which is fantastic for me, cos I finally got a christian that won't compromise and who wld put this to rest. You honestly don't know what you are dealing with here.

damogul:
Sister pls. seriously we know the manner of spirit we have.

Yes we all know the manner of spirit you all have. The spirit of insecurity, the spirit that makes your sister even jump to the conclusion that I was never a student of Futa, the spirit that makes you keep saying I lie. I am here and still waiting for howmon to reply my email. You folks shld just be prepared to eat your words. Shouting lies won't make a truth turn to a lie.

damogul:
HELLO GUYS I APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO HAS TAKEN INTEREST IN THIS HARDMIRROR DEBACLE AND I HAVE BEEN QUIET FOR A BIT BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN BUSY GATHERING THE MUCH NEEDED EVIDENCE HE CHALLENGED ME FOR.

IF WITHIN THE NEXT 24HRS HARDMIRROR DOES NOT MENTION THAT NAME HE HAS BEEN MISCHIEVOUSLY COVERING THEN I WILL LAY EVERYTHING BARE HERE ON NAIRALAND BUT ON A FRESH THREAD WITH A LINK TO THIS ONE.

I APPEAL TO EVERYONE TO BE PATIENT TILL TOMORROW WHEN I WILL UPDATE YOU ALL. I DO HOWEVER PROMISE THAT IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING INDEED!

CC SEUN
CC HOPEFULLANDLORD
CC HARDMIRROR
CC RAPHIEMONTELLA
CC NPCOMPLETE
CC THEONEJABULANI
CC SIRWERE AND ALL OTHERS.

WE SHALL ALL LIVE TO SEE TOMORROW IN J E S U S NAME AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS UPDATE.

HAVE A GOODNIGHT ALL

Lol
As I said earlier I am here and going no where. See how you write in all caps (sure you must be dancing shoki, thinking you've got me).
This tale just got more interesting. I stand by my words and I love that howmon is interested in digging deeper instead of jumping to conclusions like many of you here.

Howmon:
Sorry for the late response. Work has been hectic this week. I finished from FUTA November 20, 2010. I can state categorically that nobody died in our fellowship that year or the year before, we lost a sister to auto crash around 2012 tho and we also lost the then SUG president (DPO) May their souls rest in peace. You may send me an email to talk privately if you feel the name of the subject u claimed can't be said in public then I will come back to agree on said subject.

Sent.

Howmon:
Sorry for the late response. Work has been hectic this week. I finished from FUTA November 20, 2010. I can state categorically that nobody died in our fellowship that year or the year before, we lost a sister to auto crash around 2012 tho and we also lost the then SUG president (DPO) May their souls rest in peace. You may send me an email to talk privately if you feel the name of the subject u claimed can't be said in public then I will come back to agree on said subject.
I was a member of the choir tho, not a sunday-sunday guy.

Good I will do that now.

analice107:
Calm down Mr Cymbal, your top shall be blown open.

Ok, waiting. Blow the trousers off too

analice107:
Before the close of today, You'll see proof that Hardmirror never attended that school and was never in the Fellowship he claimed. Just stick around.


Like i said before, any claims comes with investigation.

Why do you think he is declining to mention the name?

Really?
This is interesting, so which schl did I attend o? Havard? Lol

OneManLegion:
All I see is wailing and gnashing of teeth from inconsolable Christians who are hellbent on deluding themselves and other gullible morons to reject what is obviously a credible story.

The Op, "Hardmirrow" has given enough names of living people upon whom these skeptics can begin their investigations, what's with their morbid obsession with the dead colleague? I mean, even Jesus said "let the dead bury the dead" so what's the business?

For people that can't spell mirror, one has to wonder if it worths taking them serious. Now they are saying I was never a student of FUTA, maybe na bread I go sell for FUTA. Lol

analice107:
Am quite sure now that you did not even attend that school you claimed.
You are a liar.

Hmmm You must be a spirit filled lady, only God could have revealed this to you

raphieMontella:
you're looking at it from a wrong angle...
The hanhow guy never said he was a caccfite..he didnt ask or confirm from caccf..so we wait for his confirmation..
The name of the dead man doesnt really matter...
Hardmirror made a simple statement...----there was a ccaf brother who died in 2010 from ulcer complications..he was a program organizer etc..
the hanhow guy now..has to check if someone did die...
And report back to us...if no one did..then hardmirror made it up...if someone did die as stated..then hardmirror's story of being a futa alumni is correct...then you move on to other phases of the story and find another lie to expose...

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if you're convinced he's lying...then try to expose him..not rants..
He gave names of living persons in the story..
One even commented or so..
So get to work..or he's not lying...simple

The thread don turn to comedy sef. Are they afraid of the living people? Why not contact the living people. How had is it to put the name of a dead person in a story? I won't name him and I stand by it.

analice107:
Nairaland rule Number 8.


Don't post false information on Nairaland.



Sir pls, ask this man to provide this infor or let your gavel come down on him.

You can not afford to run this place base on lies.
You may claim to be an atheist, and as an atheist your moral compass is shaky, but you are not the whole Nairaland community.

Without us, there wont be you here.

If people see you to be the man who lies and promote lies, you may just have to be in your forum all by yourself.

Even liars do not want their leaders to lie to them. Ask Nigerians.


Do the right thing sir.

Sounds like, "seun pls, massage our ego, ban hardmirror, do our bidding because we are christians (fake ones anyway).

uvalued:
and you are FRUSTRATED to just mention a NAME haba kai kuma..

Put a gun to my head I won't mention his name. Now start saying your usual rubbish. Investigation my foot. Living people are there with their names, you did not investigate them, it is a dead person you want to investigate. It shows how sincere you folks are