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malvisguy212:
He was still a christian ? In this very thread, he say He was a secret atheist but STILL a christian. Why will a secret atheists want to convert an open minded atheist ? Deceitful liar the op is.

Here is more;

Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will
NEVER Be A Christian Again.
by HardMirror(m): 2:38pm On Apr 30
I MEET AN ATHIEST
In my second year, I stayed in Abiola Hostel,
Abiola Hostel used to be the hostel of the big
boys because only a wall seperated it from
Jibowu hostel (a female hostel). Unlike
Akindeko the rough and muslim ridden hostel.
At Abiola Hotel I met a guy, AZO (real
nickname) he stayed in Block B while I was in
Block C.
Azo was in 300L while I was in 200L. This guy
did not believe GOD exists!
WHAT!
That was the first time I was meeting an atheist!
I was shocked!
That was the worse thing possible to me. How
will a mere human not believe God Almighty
exists?
I decided to have a chat with him. One thing I
was good at was converting people, so I was
sure the Holy Spirit was going to arrest Azo once
I met him. To my surprise, Azo was the most
honest plain guy I ever met. He listened to all I
had to say. He said amen to my prayers. He was
honest about finding God if indeed God exists.
And I assured him that God exists but the devil
has hardened his heart and blinded him from
the truth.
I was convinced that God wanted to save Azo. I
prayed for deliverance for the guy and I saw a
lot of willingness from him .

he was convince God want to save Azo from atheism, while he is a secret atheist.

CHAI!!!
I give up on these people.

I was trying to convert Azo because I was a christian then. Can't you read and comprehend?

4everGod:
If you had a conversion experience you would have gladly shared it but you jave none. You were actually one of these follow follow Christians who had no personal conviction and not God encounter. You folllwed men and not God hence why you were fake! Your Pastor tag was almost certainly self imposed or people tagged and not based on Gods approval or leading.

Like I said, you are doing a very good job exposing yourself by yourself so do not let me stand in your way.

Are you sure you read my story "pastor to atheist"? How many times should I share my conversion story?

johnydon22:
a lot of irrelevant stuffs getting attention these days - it all seems very personal here, insults, personal remarks and animosity...

I wonder why people take these things personal and too serious, its suppose to be a board to accomodate conflicting views of spirituality and religion not a personal war ground for infantile enmity.

Exactly why I wish to never meet these people offline. They are so daft.

malvisguy212:
please bro, be sincere, the op is a liar, a chronic liar, this is from his other thread, from pastor to atheist, in this thread he claim to meet an atheist by the name Azo, he try to convert the atheist to christianity:

Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will
NEVER Be A Christian Again.
by HardMirror(m): 2:59pm On Apr 30
CONTINUATION...
I was very patient with Azo and even though he
was older than me, he was more like a younger
brother to me. I had to take time to teach him
the bible, we discussed logic, we discussed
science and had a lot of philosophical puzzles
about life we talked about."

My question is this. Why will a secret atheist want to convert an open minded atheist ? Does it make a sense ? Hadmirrow is a crook and a liar.
https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian

Hahahaha
This is getting more funny by the second.
For real?
Can't you read and comprehend?
That story was when I was in 200level and still a christian. Azo and I stayed in the same hostel (Abiola hostel) in FUTA. I became an atheist when after my IT 400level.

4everGod:
Every true believer and every true minister of the gospel has a conversion experience. It may not be as elaborate as Pauls but there is always an experience. Fake believers and fake pastors always just "happen" upon the scene just as we are seeing here.

I am interested. So tell me my story you seem to know so much.

Vick4rill:
did i hear u say hurt?? are you better than the billion of people worshiping God daily?? did you think that u not worshiping him will change anything?? you think we are head bend on bringing u back to xtianity?? No bro! there are two things why we refute ur folly, on this forum. (1) to help the innocent and young mind visiting this section (2) for entertainment pourposes: we jst find joy in making u look silly.. listen hardmirror, great: PROFESSORS, PRESIDENTS, SCIENTIEST, INVENTORS, ENTREPRENEURS and other great men and women that have a say in the world at large, believe in the existance of this God u are disputing. so, you not believing in him doesnt change anything.

You may be suffering from inferiority, but not me. Even if the whole world is christian and I am the only atheist and I don't have two pennies to rub together, I will not feel inferior.

johnydon22:
Alright you are through with the boasting i'm pretty sure your ego has been massage enough my kind sir.

Please can you now show me the contradiction therein?

It's funny, really.

malvisguy212:
Are you the first pastor that turn to atheist ? Lol!! So you think it hurt me because you are now an atheist ? Okay.

Oh o so now you are agreeing that I was once a pastor just like many others who are now atheists. You guys should make up your mind. I am not begging you to believe me. In fact I don't even care about your opinion. Seun helped me, I am also trying to help people like me.
If not for that seun's thread it's possible I would still be a secret atheist.
I downloaded all the videos he posted from youtube and the way religion was comically dealt with liberated me. It was the first time I was seeing such boldness in exposing and ridiculing the lies of christianity.

4everGod:
He feels important even while lying. Leave the young man. He knows we know.

Hahahahaha
For real?
I guess you know my true story right? Lol
I am having a good laugh here.
How can someone sit in his home or where ever and try to tell someone his past is an illusion.
I am listening kindly tell us all the truth since you know me so well.
I am listening

Godwin2016:
God is the Rock of Ages,the one that created the universe,Father of the fatherless,the merciful one,I AM THAT I AM. Come back to Him

Ok, I want to agree with you. So who or what is this god?

malvisguy212:
Exactly what am about to say. The op is a chronic liar, he want to promote atheism by All mean. From pastor to atheist...from secret atheist now an open atheist...thread like this expose the lies of atheists even more. Just like how satan is crafty and a crook, that's how the op is.

You wish
Look at them. You guys are so insecure. No matter how much you wish, you can't change my past. I was a pastor and I am now an atheist. I see it hurts u christians so much

4everGod:
Your comment here on this thread just proves that all your other threads about how you became an Atheist after being a Pastor were 100% lies you told to gather empathy.

Hardmirror you will never cease to amaze me with how pathetic you always sound, reason and display in order to keep up with your lies.

Cc anas09, winner01, kingebukanaija, kingebukasblog, felixomor this Fake pastor has just openly confessed to his lies on other threads.

I guess you know my life story more than me. How does this thread contradict anything I have ever claimed? In my "from pastor to atheist" did I not reveal that I was scared of telling people I was no longer a christian and even kept praying and ministering to people while I was secretly an atheist?
You just want to be petty

MrPresident1:
lol. What makes you think anything I say can convince you? Better men have explained God here but you remain unconvinced, my own words will not make any difference

I am being honest. What is God?

MrPresident1:
I can understand the rebellion against organised religion, but I cannot understand the rebellion against God.

One can be spiritual without being religious, being irreligious is not a bad thing.

Atheism is the superstructure of arrogance built on the foundation of solid ignorance.

Define god and maybe I will drop atheism.

Pidggin:
Is there no hope for your soul? You've got nothing to loose if you accept Christ as your Savior. It's a win win

Same for u if you accept obatala into your life it's win win.

Anas09:
Hello... Not correct, what is correct is that, Some People who have been sold to the devil by reason of their actions. Somany here in NL are demon possessed, they are living sacrifices to satan, no matter what they see or hear, they wont believe. And God cant force them too, fact is, when they appear before him, they will be asked if they heard the word preached? They cant say no.

Hmmm... Talking about demons and heaven. Do you remember the sons of god that left heaven when they say the beautiful daughters of men?
Makes me wonder how boring heaven is. Or could it be that those who created your god and religion did not know that story would do more damage to the religion?
Keep dreaming

xendra:
Truth is the highest percentage of atheists were Christians. and I believe the reason to be our misinterpretation of the gospel, or should I say misunderstanding of who God truly is and what he wants from us.
I've been reading some books by watchman nee and I have come to understand better some things about my faith that I didn't and it is such misunderstanding that sometimes make us start questioning whether God truly exist or even conclude that he doesn't.
if you humbly seek answers you will find.

A book by watchman nee? So you have to depend on man to keep patching up your believing in a god that was man made in the first place anyway. Men keep writing and helping to perfect the god delusion

How many threads do you christians want to open on sallah meat? We atheists have chopped and clean mouth and even forgotten about the meat, you guys are still here arguing on meat that has finished.

smellingmenses:
I believe in God... but dont follow pastors.... at the sight of them I tripple my lie detector syatems....

*smiles*
When ever a man introduces himself as pastor when I am doing business I immediately know he wants to use that to scam me.

More people need to watch these videos

smellingmenses:
and?

Little things can make the big differences in life. Those satires changed my life

I never knew there where bold atheists in Nigeria and I kept pretending to be a Christian until one day I accidently opened the religion section of nairaland and saw this thread www.nairaland.com/1981089/atheist-comedy-videos.

When I saw peoples comments and how bold the atheists were, I threw my garment of pretense away and boldly told my family and friends I was no longer a christian.

Darkmatter2525 really helped me to be outspoken as an atheist. Before then I was just a pretender.

frubben:
I must confess, he made a lot of solid point. Am a believer and a strong and mature one at that but some of my fellow believers are just too lazy and just want everything without working thereby switching off their brain.
Because of the way nigeria christian behave they have produce more atheist than born again.

Thanks sir. The crux of this message is RESPONSIBLE LIVING. People have to pick up their lives and start living responsibly. Not thinking religion will save them. I get irritated when I see people shouting baba pickup my call everywhere. People have to wake up and take responsibilities.
You see people with hiv believing they are healed by faith and continue spreading the virus. You see people with cancer refusing to admit they have cancer, they keep confessing they are healed until it becomes too late. We have to be RESPONSIBLE.
Same with gambling. Gamblers have to pickup their lives and work towards responsible riches

Chrisrare:
As an ex punter, i can very much relate with wot dis op is saying. I lost a lot of money betting, but good thing i wised up and ran away frm it. Betting is one of d worse things any one can engage in dis life. I pity those who r still betting.

Only those who gamble or know the ropes can relate with this read fully. Gambling is another world and life entirely. Glad you've quit. I regret ever getting into it, you keep racing to recover your loses and yet you keep losing but smiling so people don't see you as a fool.

It makes no sense celebrating someone who won 60million naira with 900naira, it makes no sense celebrating someone who got an unmerited promotion at work. If such luck comes your way, good, but don't devote your time and desires to such.

There is a better way and it is called; [size=24pt] LIVING A RESPONSIBLE LIFE [/size]

Oh yeah that dreaded word, RESPONSIBILITY.

[size=32pt] GREED [/size]
The gambler wants to win money and be an instant millionaire.
Christianity has glorified unmerited favour
Unmerited promotion.

Unmerited admission to university.

Unmerited employment.

Yes that is where the problem is, you don't merit it yet people celebrate you for having it.

[size=32pt] How would you like a doctor that does not merit to be a doctor operate on you? [/size] so you don't want that yet you shout hallelujah when people are giving testimonies about unmerited employment?

How can a student be giving testimony that she did not write anything in an exam yet scored an A+ in that same exam? And the church would be clapping? Where have we thrown our common senses?


You want to be a millionaire without having a million naira business you are doing?

You want to drive a range rover when you are a clerk in your office with no intention of developing yourself and getting more qualified?

You get a chance to help a politician hide their loot and you eventually by the range rover you don't merit and come to church to shout god is good?


So what is the way I hear you ask.

[b]You say God answers prayers? How many prayers are "answered" how many more are not? Does God even answer prayers or you were just lucky.
[size=30pt] Saying when ever I call on God he answers me is like saying when ever I gamble I win [/size], it takes luck to win and I can directly relate this to prayers too, it takes luck. You have expectations and they came true? It's luck!
You had an accident and survived?
It is luck!
You are lucky the accident was not more serious. Not your prayers.
if you needed money and prayed and some one just gives you money IT IS LUCK! If it was not luck, the money would have dropped from heaven so you will be 100% sure God was the one providing.
How many times did you have food in the house running low and it refused to finish? NEVER. If all you have is 2 slices of bread it will NEVER multiply into 50 slices no matter how you pray. Prayer ought to be supernatural but today we take ordinary luck as answers to prayers. Why can't God bless your 50,000 naira salary so that it does not finish no matter what you buy so he can prove to you that he is God the provider?

Everyday people are dying of cancer.
Yet they prayed!

People are starving and dying of hunger in many countries.
yet they pray!

People are dying of sickle cell.
Yet they pray!

People are being put to shame for not being able to pay their children's school fees and house rent.
Yet they pray.

People are dying in road accidents.
Yet they prayed.

People go to bed and don't wake up again.
Yet they prayed!

It is grace some will say? So if it is grace, then why pray since what would be would be?

We are busy with a 1% or less of expectations being met and over 99% of unanswered prayers.
People keep hoping for a miracle!

[size=28pt] MY STORY: Continuation THE STORY THEY DON'T TELL YOU [/size]
SORROWS AND CRUSHED EXPECTATIONS
After winning my 1.3Million total, what happened next?

The next day I was bombarded with calls by those who collected my phone number the previous day.
I gladly gave them the forecastes I had made. But to be safe I did something tricky I made sure I gave them 10 predictions and asked them to pick 5 games and play randomly I also advised to play more than a ticket to be safe
That day I play 4 tickets. This was after I had withdrawn the 700,000 I lost. So I still had enough money to gamble about with.
Now some gamblers will swear that if they won that kind of money they won't lose it all. I laugh! Please how many gamblers have you seen who won millions and went ahead to win another within 6 months. I have seen none! Within a month you would have lost everything if you did not withdraw your money and RUN!
I lost all the bets.

BIGGEST SURPRISE!!!
All the new followers I had all lost their money. But guess what they were even applauding me. Because out of 10games only 2 failed and unfortunately many of us played the unfortunate games (I did not heed to my own advice)
This went on for a week with us only winning once.

Gradually I systematically rid myself of them because the responsibility was just too much and I cannot be responsible for destroying their finances.

malvisguy212:
am surprise that someone who claim to be a pastor do not understand what the bible teaches about God judging sin. If this is among the reason you depart from the faith, then there is nothing I can say to you.

Smiles. You don't just get it. You are surprised I USED to be a pastor. Is that not past? At present I am an ATHEIST that means I don't believe in God or Jesus as savior or what ever spiritual mumbo jumbo of the bible. It makes no sense that god judges man based on not being born again. So what happens to the millions or billions who never heard of jesus for the 2000 year span since jesus supposedly died for the world?
You said such people will be judged on their works. So if god knows people could be saved by works then why send jesus? If god knows works can't save people, then what did he do to ensure that immediately jesus died everyone in the world will know at once so we can all have a fair chance at salvation?
Lol. You don't just get it. It's ridiculous. I have no regret throwing christianity out of my life.

malvisguy212:
Are you sure you are a former pastor before you convert to atheist ?

Are u the one that would tell me my life history?
So because I have come to realize the stupiddity of what I used to believe was divine, it now makes my past nonexistent?

mrintellectual:
We were created by God for His glory, and His alone. Don't think that we were put on earth so we can prove whether we are fit for heaven or hell. If we live for God's glory, then Heaven shall be our portion.
About suicide, remember that your life was given to you. Only the giver - God- has the right to take it away.

We were created for his glory so majority not believing in jesus is the glory of god that claims he does not want anyone to perish? why not create everyone into heaven if that is his desire?

malvisguy212:
lol, are we talking about people who had not heard the gospel or babies and mentally unstable people ?

The bible clearly say, the Gospel will reach ALL nation after that the End will come. People who died before the gospel reach them, God is a righteous judge, He will judge them base on their work. The book of Revelation chapter 20 clearly indicate so.

Oh o so you agree that those that did not here the message of jesus would only be judged by their works meaning you agree such people can make heaven without Jesus. So why did jesus come to die? His death is useless that's what you mean.