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Christains won't comment on this o. Mummy G.Os won't like this.
PDP (people deceiving people)
The bible is always twisted for selfish gains and the dumb followers too won't ask questions cos they worship money and daddy G.O.

Hehehehehehehehehehehehe!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahaahahahahahaha!!!!!
*coughs* coughs* cough*
*red watery eyes*
Chineke!!!!
Christians and obsession with "worldly" things.
Funny thing is many of them would die only able to afford used cars despite all the prayers and tithes.
Seriously the church is a joke. Their thinking is not different from that of a Yahoo-boy. They serve god cos of money, they long for money. They are so poverty stricken all they think of is money. I remembered a time I was in church and the pastor said very soon he would by a private jet and everyone that keys to his vision will also own private jets soon. I almost laughed out loud in church. You need to see how people jumped up shouting "AMEEEEEN!!!" Hehehehehe
Is it from their salary that they would by private jet?
Lol
Christians want what they don't work for or know anything about.

This is why religion section is one of my favorites. I am always entertained here

KingEbukasBlog:
Thanks bro for your understanding . Dont forget to tell JackBizzle to produce that video #JackBizzleProvideThatVideo

What is this one saying. Are you bored and looking for video to watch? Pls pay your dstv subscription there are enough movies for you there.
So he should go about with a camera to take a video of himself being discriminated?
Where is the video of you cumming, else I will believe you are not a complete man.

Reyginus:
Exactly. It's not my logic but it's what they believed. As you know, you can love wrongly. We can think we are doing a thing out of love why in the real sense it's just an expression of our ignorance. Just like when Oyedepo slapped the witch girl. It came from a place of love.

You didn't do it simply because you were never truly Christian. You had a nice heart but it wasn't really in operation with the word of God. If you honestly believed the word of God as written in the bible to be true, it's also logical to exorcise demons honestly. Tell me why I'm wrong.

At bolded. Here we go again. Why do people think atheists that converted from christianity or islam were never truely christains or muslims?
Lol
Same with when christians covert to islam, christians would claim it is because they were never true christians. Once a muslim converts to christianity, muslims would say it is because they were never true muslims. Smh
So funny.
Religion ehn...

JackBizzle:
The case in the East of Nigeria where children were beaten to death by pastors and church members because the parents thought that they were witches was done from a place of love and not hate. That is how your logic sounds, dense and myopic.


I was once a christian that disliked atheism. However, I never wanted to put any atheist in an asylum not to talk of my own son. There is ignorance and there is hatred of atheism.

The nigerian situation is really pathetic.
People here are just buffons. Same with the United states too and many other countries.
When you say you were once a christian they automatically think you are just making that claim, they say you must have been a fake christian. I have over 300 people I converted m to christianity. Yet people still say I must have been a fake christian because I am now an atheist. It's so funny
My relatives all think I must have joined ogboni or a cult. Yet ogboni members believe in god.
They tag you as a satanist even tho you don't even believe in the existence of spirits.
Becoming an atheist has made me realize th monster I was as a christian. How could I have supported such a god as the one described by the bible. A god of hate and injustice. Wasted my early life worshiping a fictitious monster. Sometimes I marvel at how I used to believe all that crap. I am surprised I never found those things as silly and wicked when I was a christian. Glad I am done with christianity.

The garri you purchase in the market is likely contaminated by rates as you don't know how it was stored.

Today we got warned by the nigeria medical association on the danger of "soaking" garri with cold water.

Here is a solution so you can keep enjoying your garri (unfortunately not everybody will be able to do this)
Had to come up with this cos I can't stop drinking garri

Use a microwave to heat up the dry garri, allow to cool, then soak and enjoy. Lol

On a more serious note now, this is a time we have to be careful. Era of washing your hands with sanitizer is back.
Hope it is curtailed soon

accountable01:
How come u are this angry with a "thing" that is not real?

It is obvious you are slow
I am angry that you believe in wickedness and many celebrate wickedness. Of cos your god is not real, but your believe in him and his actions are real. And it irritates me that humans can be so heartless

naijacarlovers:
I have read a lot of books in my lifetime, watched TV programs and engaged in other literary activities. In the course of doing these, I have come across lots of mistakes either in spelling, grammar or construction in the English used. But never have I seen any mistake in the Holy book, the Bible. I mean the proper bibles o. Awesome God.

Has anyone seen any?

If yes please answer with proof.

God bless us all.

I stopped being a christain when I realized harry potter series made more sense than the bible.
So obvious you don't read the bible. It takes fear of god throwing you into hell to overlook the contradictions of the bible and just swallow it as truth. It is one of the most ridiculous books ever written

accountable01:
Now the subject of our discussion seems to be changing. Why do righteous people suffer same fate with the wicked on earth? Would be a better title.
Why do so called Christians suffer cancer, rejection, rape, and lassa fever just like murderers, thieves and the likes?
Or perhaps.....
Why did Jesus who knew no sin, suffer the cruelest death on calvary cross.

Please see may last post above.
I have gotten all the answers I need.
Don't let me reply you as I should. What I appreciate is the effort you at least put in making things clear to me. But I find your submissions insulting to my intelligence. You can try it with a 2 year old anyw say. Discussing this further will take us no were. Just read all your post so far and ask yourself, "if you were a god that can do allllll things and has the greatest love no human can ever have for another. Will you even burn those children? Will you make them drown?" Think about it. If those stories were true, is god truely love? We humans are not even that humane. Think and stop rushing to defend god.
I got all the answers I need. Just stop this already. Hence forth I will see christains as equal to isis and boko haram. You have no love and compassion in you. None of you could see the injustice done, just because you are determined that god cannot be unjust. Yet you rush to criticize boko haram that are also just fighting for god. You forgot that moses lead one of the biggest genocide in history, killing people to take their land claiming god sent him. Yet you sit every sunday and celebrate tyrants like moses, samson, joshua, david etc. You never for a moment ask yourself how different these men are fRom isis and boko haram. You wicked souls.
Pls I won't reply your kind anymore. Go your way.
if the devil were real, I will gladly serve him before I even think of serving jehovah. The evil of god far out weighs that of the devil even from the bible.

I have gotten all the answers I need.
Thank you all.
All the best serving god.
If I should really answer you guys I may sound insulting. But from the answers you've given I think I clearly understand what religion thrives on unfortunately.

accountable01:
OK, so you do not have 'biblical proof' after all.
"The righteous perish, and no one takes it to heart; the devout are taken away, and no one understands that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil" Isaiah 57: 1
Well, here I see that it is perfectly in order with a holy God to physical remove a righteous person to a better place in order to spare them from evil
I think heaven is a better placefor infants than thousands of infants being suddenly left without father or mother...... Since u care much more about these infants than God, I guess u would prefer to leave perhaps hundreds of thousands of infants to 8 adults to manage!

You are making sense
Perhaps god took them away (in his own best judgment) just as the scripture you quoted states.
Yes it makes sense. But don't forget god actually make conscious effort to save thos considered righteous. The babies did not perish with dignity, they perished as part of the wicked. No reference was ever made to show that god actually had them in his agenda. It was very clear that god appraised the righteous (noah and lot) against the rest (everyone else) who were deserving of the kind of death they died.
Why not rapture them? Why shld the burn and drown?

chakwa:
It is clear you didnt read all i wrote. I said babies are innocent and they go to heaven. they have not sinned. i explained that before. stop repeating things to get likes(maybe). There is good and everlasting life after death. reread what i wrote the first time. Is it not better to enjoy after death than leave life as a orphan. SENSE.
I also addressed other issues on the page apart from the one you spoke of HardMirror. i was not only replying you. as i said i encourage iopen mindedness. if you want clearance on an issue on the bible, simply ask. you do not need to add things like, "You guys are jokers indeed", "hope you see how you are making a fool of yourself", "Getting more interesting and ridiculous" etc. it tells things about you. it seems like people cannot work with you HardMirror because when disagreements comes, people would get irritated.

I am sorry you are not getting enough likes after all the effort you put in typing. But remember likes are not useful in the real world.
My question has been answered by matured and straight forward folks. I showed gratitude to them and never mocked them. Maybe if you dealth with my question more directly I won't seem to be up tight.
Have a good night

dolphinheart:
The thread so far has produced some truthfull and false answers.
Would keep following.
Hope the op can add this view or question to the topic.

When the day of God wrath come and the wicked are destroyed, what will happen to the pregnancy of a pregnant woman, as in, will god throw the unborn infant with the woman into the lake of fire. If no, pls what will happen to that unborn baby.

Secondly, people say bad people will burn in hell when they die, pls what happens to a bad pregnant woman when she dies? Will the baby follow her to hell to be burnt too? If not, where would the unborn infant be?

Hmmm...
It gets more interesting.
I just hope these questions wake many up. We keep going in circles defending god. I am sure the best answer u will get would be the epic "let god be the judge" response.
Yet god never intervenes in the affairs of men. It is men that always speak on his behalf, fight on his behalf...

accountable01:
the bible has only one author.
before addressing ur question( not that I claim to have all the answers but we can examine scriptures together) let us address the premise upon which u concluded that God sends infants to hell.

it is true that infants were destroyed in the fiery judgement of Sodom. who told u God sent them to hell thereafter. do u have other scriptures that clearly shows God throwing infants in hell?

Oh my good sir, I never said god threw them in hell directly. My point is if god did not care to save them from judgment he dished out to the wicked (according to the bible) generation of noah and sodom, then what is the guarantee that babies won't also burn in hell just like other sinners, since they perished with sinners in the 2 cases I presented.
Note, no importance was given to their innocence. The bible just focused on noah and his family and how noah was so righteous and how he preached but no one listened then god destroyed everyone including the children that had no understanding to even seek salvation.
That is my point. It is a strong pointer that if we go by the imperfect teachings of the bible, then we relegate children to same fate as adults, disregarding their innocence in savage grandeur. While focusing on the vanity of the righteous and celebrating their triumph such as noah is being celebrated till this day, while we forget the thousands of children who died painful unjust deaths. Where is our humanity?
What does this say about our future if this are the heroisms we celebrate.
And yet we excitedly preach of impending judgments from a all loving god that has failed to demonstrate fairness in justice in time past.

accountable01:
would like to know what the op thinks about these verse:

"And the little ones that you said would be taken captive,
your children who do not yet know good from bad--they
will enter the land. I will give it to them and they will take
possession of it" Deut 1: 39

And should I not have concern for the great city of Nineveh,
in which there are more than a hundred and twenty
thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their
left--and also many animals?Jonah 4:11

the population of Nineveh was reckoned to be about 600000, if the infants were about 120,000.

First let me commend you and the other guy. I am glad you guys are beginning to address my query directly. Thanks

Now to the verses you quoted. That is commendable. But if god could reason like this, why didn't he apply same to the generation of noah and sodom? Why the inconsistency?
Why is it same god says he will visit the sins of fathers on the children unto the 4th generation? Could it be that these inconsistency is a product of the different authors of the bible?
These are my thoughts

accountable01:
I believe you if u say so, but your write up says almost opposite.
you needed 5 righteous people but God needed 10.
God is a God of covenant. He says what He means and means what He says:

[Gen 18:32-33 And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake. 33 And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.

your attempt at defending God, though well-meaning, painted Him in a bad light( why the op is calling u his brother). stay where the bible stays. don't try to use ur own human wisdom to defend God.

My brother
Haba mana. It's not like that o. The guy made more sense than anyone here even tho he made a little mistake. At least he has helped me understand that god sticks to his plan and purpose. His intent was to save Lot and his family and he did that. Babies were not relevant to the plan. Same with noah's time. So let's not drag this issue. I perfectly understand the god you serve now.

Thanks for all the contributions. Glad I am not a christain.

orunto27:
Nature, the Universe and all that are in it, including humans are created FOR GOD's PLEASURE! Therefore Darkness/Light, Good/Evil, Life/Death etc are created for God's Pleasure. The first law of God is Nature, in it Cane killed Abel. God Himself Judged Cane. Human race commited numerous other sins, God wiped them all off, children and aged by Flood, leaving Noah and his chosen ones. Before the Food disaster, God had punished humans for reckless living by limiting life span to 120. Abraham was Mr. Faith and God's friend. God confided in him that He would not wipe off Sodom&Goma. if He found at least five righteous people in the land. God sent two Angels plus Lot, his daughter and her fiance, making five righteous people before God. The Sodomites clamoured to mess them up. They did not serve God's Pleasure. God wiped them all out off the earth, children and aged. Second law of God-Ten Commandments. In one of them, God established Genetology when He promised to visit parents' sins on their generations yet unborn. Since then, wherever you see children dying, God's pleasure is missing. In all, God who controls Darkness&Light and good&bad always leave fields for Repentance, Corrections and Forgiveness. He is always there to bring any of our children including the foetus out of darkness and death into light and life by our Prayers and our Forgiveness. God is not wicked but His Laws and Will must be obeyed. And if you become selfish and unrepentant to relate naturally to Him, He will punish you and your children's children forever. This is the general law.

I LOVE YOU BROTHER. AT LAST!
YOU HAVE ADDRESSED MY QUESTION HEAD ON.
THIS IS THE SIMPLE ANSWER I NEEDED NOT ALL THE PREACHING SOME ARE DOING HERE.
THANKS A LOT.
GOD HAS HIS WAYS. AND CLEARLY CHILDREN OF THE UNRIGHTEOUS DESERVE SAME FATE AS THEIR PARENTS. SIMPLE.
Now I can move on. Thanks for your precise explanation.
Wish the world has more people like you.

to all christains saying god loves children and those children that died in noah's time, sodom and gomorrah. May the lord treat you the way he treated those children may he always remember you the way he remembered those children. May he grAnt you the deaths those children died say amen to this if you are so sure those children were treated with love and fairness by god

I hope this will make you realize how silly your answers are. But if you insist that god still showed love to those children. Then just say amen to my prayer and make it your prayer every day

bolaji3071:
All i sense here is a man thats trying to mock God. But be not be deceived by the devil satan because God cannot be mocked.


Same bible told us that except a man be born again & humble as little children, he will not enter the kingdom of God. Little children who haven't have the knowledge of good and bad are not going to hell.

Yes o. God cannot be mocked. So why did god destroy the children of noah's time and in sodom?
God saying we shld be like children does not sound like a guarantee of heaven to me. After all the original children we are even trying to copy never enjoyed mercy in the first place.

Back to the question. If children suffered such terrible fate before, why won't they suffer it again when god's judgment is unleashed on mankind again?

Jessicha:
No scripture can contradict Ecc 9:5 , Get Wisdom



Its a parable boy , you urself confess by saying the man NOT some imaginary ghost ; the rich man has eyes and tongue , isnt it ?



Gnashing of TEETH indeed ! Am sure Jesus knows ur teeth are buried in the grave , its just you that lacks wisdom to understnd his parables .


Everlasting fire means destruction - jude 6 , 2peter 2:6



Lake of fire means " second death " (rev 20:14) not torment .

Lol
The bible scholar. Please open another thread for all this your useless contributions. For the 100th time. How does this address the issue we are discoursing here?

Jessicha:
Lols , bring the trouble , so u gat no evidence that I said such , u are just blabbing as usual ..Confuse person .

Jessy baby. Is that all? I was expecting real trouble from you.
So you succeeded in not making any sense here. So can you just move on? You've made enough fool of yourself. "Miss no sin after death" don't know how that answered my question. Olodo

Jessicha:
You are always sprewing thrash ; no wonder u couldnt defend ur statement on the other thread , meanwhile if u had read this thread with open mind you will have seen the biblical reason why animals die . But how would u even see that ?

If u think the bible doesnt make sense , you that make sense should tell me why humans speak different languages ? I belive ur pin wisdom should be able to answer that , so ?

Yes I know why humans speak different languages, but my answer won't be meaningful to you After all you know I only have pin wisdom and my answer is not based on your book of all answers. Lol. I am sure you think you know why humans speak different languages already.
I enjoy christain discussions better than any comedy show. Keep the good work up. You are doing a fantastic job here

ValentineMary:

Are u just joking or u are serious when u said God is good with all those attributes? Pls reply before I make my next statement

I am not joking. I don't find it funny that people actually believe this obvious lies.
Better than saying god is evil. It's a sad sarcasm.

ojuu4u:
GOD doesnt promise humans they wont die 'physicaly" frm adam but he was talkin of spiritual immotality .Gen 3.22. (God pushd them out of garden to prevent them eating tree of life)

Na wa o. From what you are saying here. So adam was going to die?
I thought jesus came to undo the sin of adam so we can have eternal life through him and the bible takes about the new earth in revelations where god would restore man back to his original plan. But here you are saying adam and eve would have died even if they did not eat the fruit. Issoright. Lol
This is why I love discussing Christianity, no better comedy. I am always well entertained.

CAPTIVATOR:
And you are told that the curse is death , right? Infact , Gen 3:14 only mentions the beast of the field .

This begs the question: what about the birds of the sky and the fishes of the sea , why do they also die ?

Even plants die. They are also living things. The guy forgot to address that.

Jeromejnr:
Did the earth come from Adam? Then explain to us why we have earthquakes.

Did Jesus also die for salvation of the earth from earthquakes? Why will they all stop in the new earth? Why will there even be a new earth? Is it for God or for men?

Open your heart, that you may see the ignorance that lies within.

I give up on religious people.
So you think quakes don't happen on other planets?
You think storms don't happen on other planets?
You think volcanic eruptions don't happen on other planets?
So you think they happen on earth alone?

science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2006/15mar_moonquakes/

Read about storms on other planets google is your friend.

Defending the bible is damn difficult cos you will end up saying silly things.

Jessicha:
What Natural cycle ! That means even without eating the fruit man will eventually die since it a natural cycle , Hmm are you now telling us God scam man ?

I just dey laugh.
So you can see the bible does not really make sense.
Why shld animals die. I love this question

Animals die because living things get old and die, because of diseases, because they get killed buy other animals or natural disasters.

Story about adam and eve is nothing but story

Jessicha:
i dont understand why u are crying .... Pls show me where i said the bold ? Ur failure to do that will spell trouble .

Bring the trouble. You obviously have no answer to my question so swerve.

Jessicha:
" the wages sin pays is Death" ROM 6:23 , so once u die .. Uv paid the wage of ur sins , automatically after paying ur wages , such a person is " Free from his sin" Rom 6:7



This is what happens when u dont pay attention

" the wages sin pays is Death , but the ***GIFT** God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord " Romans 6:23

Can u now see the role of Jesus ? He came so we can have everlasting life which is a gift. By living a righteous life ,u show God that u want him to give you that GIFT .. Therefore , u hav d hope of a resurection

Madam Jessica. Who asked you all these questions in the first place?
So how does this answer the question about babies and god's judgment?
My original question has not been answered which is purpose for opening this thread. Why were children not rescued from sodom. Why shld children drown in the time of noah. Is this a pointer that god may not consider Children as worth saving? Could this mean children may end in hell since they've perished under god's judgement in the past while god saved those he considered righteous. When you answer that then I am ready to listen to your sermon about death and sin that you are talking about now (which I suspect is aimed at avoiding my question while pretending to be making point)

jeytee:
I assume that its either you are mad or just plain stupid..Salvation is personal,i cant force you to believe anything...God have mercy on your soul!!

I don't need your prayers. I preferred when you called me mad.
Yes I am mad. You must be mad too, cos only a mad man replies a mad man. How are you today me fellow werey