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Speechless3:
No it is not simple. Are you saying a barbarian who has no idea how cars are made or has no past experience at all will be logical if he sees an abandoned car in a bush and then reason it to be as a result of chance?

That is why he is a barbarian. A smart human would always conduct research into his findings to ascertain the origin of his discovery. That is what we are trying to do with the earth, we are working to understand it's origin because we are not barbarians.
Baby girl, are you a barbarian?

Speechless3:
Dang, you agree that the laws of logic transcends the world of atheism! You have indirectly agreed that every human irrespective should have these laws. Looooool. And the greatest, you agree that they exist even when youve never seen any

Dont worry about presenting a logical reason why i believe God exists i am already doing that

Have I seen my liver? Yet I know I must have a liver. Does believe in logic I cannot see make believe in god I cannot see necessary?
Geez... I think I have got another comedian I shld follow. You are even funnier than opeaceo

Speechless3:


Let me ask, will i become logical if i become an atheist?

No. you not being an atheist does not make you illogical, neither does being one make you logical.
All I ask is, "present a logical reason why you believe god created the earth and not obatala or panku."

Speechless3:
No1 Postulation: What you are saying is that something is only logical if it has been subjected to tests and in this case experiences. That is we cannot know at once that an abandoned car has a manufacturer except from our life experience of seeing cars being made by man. Loooooool. This is faulty because its saying those who have no idea of who makes cars will be right to conclude on seeing an abandoned car that GM does not exist.

Your logic is based on experience, it is no logic. Logic must be true every where at the same time.

Oh yes! You are absolutely right without experience there is no logic. 2+2= 4 is only logical because it can be experienced. 1+1=1 is logical when experienced in a chemical reaction for example where to compounds make a single product.
As for an ignorant man who has not experienced civilization, he has no right to claim he is sure of the origin of the car unless he has facts to back up his claim.

taurus25:
logic is just the use or study of valid reason............an agnostic atheist stand is that one cant know if god exist or not, so far so good many gods proposed by man has been proved to be inexistent using deductive reasoning hence the disbelief in all gods believed to exist

secondly from the pic in ur op it implies "theres a world we live in, theres no eye withness when it was created" , therefore god created it
, this is an inductive argument , you mean your premise is enough to provide sufficient conclusion for gods existence, whereas this is weak logic

Beautiful.
I don't even see a relationship between the two premises she presented. Existence of a car is well documented by humans, it's creation was witnessed by humans, humans that made it can speak and bear withness to their work for themselves, it is branded so humans can know who made it.
Earth made by? It's creation witnessed by? The creator of the earth can he speak for himself? Where is the branding that tells us the specific god that made the earth?

Speechless3:
Onetrack Johnnydon, Platteon, Ifeness, CoolUsername, cloudgoddess. Your attention is needed here.

Ronald4lif darling

Y are you calling everyone? You think you have discovered the nail to atheism's coffin?
Funny girl.

Speechless3:
Another way of saying "we dont have answers to this"? common give it a try? Just try

Ok.
First postulation
You find a car, abandoned, no one knows how it got there.
The atheist does not for a moment think the car was a product of chance.
Reason the atheist can NEVER assume the car was a product of chance. He knows for SURE the car was manufactured by a car manufacturer in this case General Motors (GM). Reason? Because cars are made by men, and there are so many evidences to that. It is not a mystery that needs to be explained. A toyota prado only exists because of the toyota company, the logo and design are all trademarks. The assembly plant can be visited. They have a physical address. There are soo many evidences to back this assertion up.

postulate two
Earth, no one witnessed it's creation, so No god.
Lol. For real?
All we are asking for is evidence, did god create the earth? If you say yes, why do you say yes? Simple.
If I told you I found a toyota hilux on the beach, I can prove it that it did not just appear there, it must have been manufactured by toyota, it is because there is evidence.

What if I told you god did not create the earth but obatala did. Would you believe me simply because you believe toyota must have made a camry you did not withness it's creation?

Muafrika2:
If God would let his own people suffer, cry and die for thousands of years, Let his own son die, how much more his enemies?

Enemies? God has enemies?
How can the sole creator of everthing in existence have enemies. Does it mean he is pscho and created enemies for himself?

Speechless3:
Laws of Logic are abstract and not material but atheists say they exist! funny. I mean you cant see logical laws but you believe they exist. How so?

Why are they not consistent in their reasoning when it comes to God? God cannot be seen too but atheists say he must be seen first before they believe? Loooooooooooool

Atheism is unreasonable and illogical if you ask me.

Little girl, seriously, just stick to your modeling, you are not cut for "logical" discussions.
Explaining anything to you will be a waste of time, because you don't have the capacity to understand

amtaken:
What is wrong in being awake anytime of the day? Don't change the topic ok.

Attention seeker. What happened to reporting to your husband, or you are keeping your options opened?
Getting rid of a stubborn guy is not rocket science. Covenant wives my foot. Yet she's collecting his money and keeping it from her husband.

ishiamu:
I don't argue something that ain't something that is scam, that's it

Smd.

mynd1:
Yes n there is nothing u or any other person can do about it.

To hell with PDP n their sympathisers.

God bless PMB

God bless Nigeria.

Just discovered why you have many fans here
Well deserving

Hehehehe
Irunooboo and obontami. The obo family on nairaland.
Irunooboo or what ever this guy calls himself, your life must really suck that the only way you feel important is to come here and insult people with reckless abandon. Sure you are a no body in real life so I sympathize with you

SexyCeline:
That's a lame way to fink.. Anyway that's 9ja guy's for you.

Ladies love attention.
Some post it for attention and admirations they'll get.
But really it is not needed. The disadvantages far out weighs the advantage. Not on a forum like nairaland with many I'd!ots

kayalla:
u just cleared my doubt. thank u.
maybe i should watch and laugh a bit

Can't wait to get your feedback after watching it. Sure you will be very angry at how gullible people are

SexyCeline:
Lol... You guys shud go and pour your juices in your bathrooms jor

Haba! Masturbation can never be as sweet as the laps of a damsel. Anyway I feel it is better ladies don't use their pictures here except they have "something" they are after.

SexyCeline:
Too many pm's and thirsty nigga's wanna only get me laid.. I had to do the needful.

Hehehehe
We guys can't just see a pretty girl without wanting to pour our juice in her. I guess it's genetic

Dirkcoyt:
You don't need to pass we all know you hate their skin colour so post it and don't be a coward racist! Should I call you ignorant?no, you're just an unfortunate bastard who is learned and not educated. You probably hate yourself, but dear, you are forever stucked in this skin pigment called melanin! Deal with it!

Only an ignoramous would mock the black skin. From sun burns to skin cancer, what is there to envy in a pale skin?

opeaceo:
Excuse me, and you call yourself educated?? Educated has a new meaning then.

Or are you an Arsenal fan?? yeye dey ooze.

What has arsenal got to do with what the guy said? Address issues more logically. I can guess the level of your education

opeaceo:
oookk, it seems she's here to stay, and there's nothing fierce about this look.

Opeaceo!
Just came online to see my girl who is not jobless commenting all over nairaland. It is good following you at least your updates would help me know what's hot at a glance. Keep up the good work

opeaceo:
Christ!! and if he chooses not to answer?? Would you beat him up since you're a senior??

He has the right not to answer, you are the one that accuse him of owing the church or the church owing him instead of addressing the points he raised.

opeaceo:
I am far from being jobless, I don't like the attention whatsoever, PLEASE, act as if I don't exist, it would do us good.

Where do you work?

opeaceo:
Here we go again, the "Catholicism", it seems you're indebted to them or vice versa??

S, you should know better.

Ghost01 we need an answer to this. Does the catholic church owe you, or you are indebted to them, as this my little girl claims?
Just look at this response, so lacking of intellectual credit

opeaceo:
Would you please stop mentioning me, do I owe you or something??

I am jobless just like you. Have you forgotten? And I really like you. Don't you like the attention?

Ghost01:
" The Catholic Church believes that artificial
contraception is sinful and immoral and may
frustrate a divine plan to bring a new life into
the world. Instead of using birth control
methods such as the pill, IUDs, diaphragms,
and condoms, Catholics can use Natural Family
Planning (NFP) techniques."

www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-catholic-church-and-contraception.html

I hope from your conversation with opeaceo, you can see why the only thing I derive from christian arguments is amusement. They are so clueless and ready to defend their stance even if they sound silly. Religion has nothing to do with rationality. Most of them don't know anything outside what they get from their pastors. Imagine not knowing the catholic church is against contraceptives and abortion. Imagine not knowing many endure abusive marriages all because of the church's stance.
Well I have said it before, just mess around with them intellectually and enjoy the daft response they give, while smiling to yourself. That is what I do

opeaceo:
you're more jobless than I imagined, continue the a$$ licking.

O yh
I am jobless. You really caught my attention.
Sure u are enjoying the licking. I just love the simplicity of your mind can't help the attraction

opeaceo:
It is not too late to undo what you did.

Unfortunately you don't own nairaland.

opeaceo:
Taaa, how can we have a lot in common when you said I was a dog??

kai, a schizophrenic loner is on the loose and I don't enjoy unfriendly "banters" with them and also it is too early to release you inner demons on me, I won't allow that.

Have a blissful day ahead, remember to take a jar of honey, it would help your situation.

Oh my! Lwkmd
What a sweet girl.

opeaceo:
You can't be offended are all you've typed here are insults?? You have a bitter life, a jar of honey would make it sweeter a bit!!

You have a gift. You must be filled with the holy spirit. The gift of "word of knowledge".
Yes I need a jar of honey and I will gladly lick yours. You seem eager to share

opeaceo:
IQ test?? lmfao, you're suffering from paranoia and delusions of grandeur.

It is a pity joblessness tickles your fancy, Nigeria is at its lowest ebb.

Sweet heart
I see we have a lot in common dear

opeaceo:
Ooh dear, you're getting it wrong, thats not me on me on my dp, those are my boyfriend(s) and guess what, they are used for security.

You almost got that right, don't worry, I'll buy you a jar of honey, your life is so bitter this morning or wait, no food to eat? or no water to drink? I'm sowie, I'm not the cause.

O, what a sweethrt you are.
I love Christian girls. They rock
Who won't love this babyish talk. An atheist gf would be too much to handle, but see the beauty of the simplicity of a christian's thinking. How can you ever be offended by them.

opeaceo:
I watch movies to get entertained, and if that's the reason you engage Christians, mheeenn, honestly speaking, you've got no job, and I'd love to offer you one, you can be one of my boyfriend(s) on my dp #smiles, but then again, I doubt you would cope, my boyfriend (s) are way too smart than you'd ever be.

Please someone needs a job ooo.....

One of your bfs? Hmmm...
Seems you love variety.
Don't worry about how smart I am if I told you the result of my IQ test you won't believe it anyway, so that's not something I need to defend. As for being jobless, well we all have things that tickles our fancy, and christians trying to defend god and the bible is one for me.