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Firebomber:
You lack sense and knowledge of history, you people are hilarious to even think that the last islamic invasion of Jerusalem was peaceful or they allow other people to worship there.

Let just admit the propaganda you just spoke, so after they change there religion they also change there tribe too?

tctrills:
So you agree with everything I said.
It was the Mulads that first colonized the area and that Jews have always been in the land.
Now, thousands of Arabs migrated from Egypt to the land of Palestine during the time of the ottoman empire. The Arab migration continued during the time of the British mandate. But the Arabs got jealous and angry with Jewish migration. What right did the Arabs have to determine who migrated to that land. Note. Before 1948, the Jews did not obtain even a plot of land through violence. The Arabs began the violence and lost everything. So what moral right do they have to claim anything?
Again, it's not the same with the Ifa picture you created. Before the 20th century the land of Palestine was a land of migrants. But the Arabs who were not even the government at the time felt like they had the power to decide who comes to the land. They lay claim of the land. Remember, the lost control of the land to the ottoman in the 1500s.

tctrills:
Ok at least you are not in the genocide gang so let's talk West Bank.
I am happy that with you, we can talk about the land of Palestine without the distraction of genocide.
1, You call the Jews colonialists. But it's actually the other way. The Arabs are the colonialists.
The Arabs captured the land in the time of the Mulads.
Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Israel had zero Arabs before 600 ad. Today. Arabic is the dominant language and the formal onwers of the lands can't be recognized. Before the Arabs took over these lands, do you know that they were all majority Christian people?
Now , under the Arabs, the land of Palestine was just a colony.
And guess what, there were Jews still in that land by then.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule
The the ottoman empire took over. The ottoman are present day Turkey. Still it was just a colony. Both Arabs and Jews continued to migrate to the land. Arabs migrated at a larger population but there was never an Arabic nation, it was still just a colony.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire
Then the British took over and it remained a colony where both Jews and Arabs were free to migrate. But at that time, Jews began to migrate in greater numbers and Arabs began to attack the Jews.
By 1947, Jews made up 30% of the population and the UN did the right thing in dividing the land among the two groups. The Arabs refused and went to war and lost more land in the process.
Since the 70s, the Jews have been the only group conceding. They gave up Gaza completely. They gave the Palestinians autonomy in the West Bank. Please tell me what the Palestinians have done for peace. And how does the west bank belong to the Palestinians?
Rather than fight for these spoiled Palestinians, why don't we give our voices to the Christians in Syria. Again these are mainly non Arabs and in less than 12 years, they have been reduced from 10% to about 2%>

tctrills:
Let's again look at your comments. So you did not answer if the Biafran war was genocide, rather, you blamed both groups. That is really weak.
In the case of Biafra, you choose to blame both groups but I have not seen you offer a single blame to the Palestinians. This is clearly a double standard. So let me ask again, was the Biafran war a genocide? and if yes, who committed it and why are you not fighting for the Igbos to get justice?

So you clearly do not understand the meaning of HDI. I am telling you that life in the West Bank is better than Africa counting everything you claim the Jews do to them.
Now, the West Bank is a disputed land claimed by both the Jews and the Palestinians. Israel allows the Palestinians to govern themselves. Also, the West Bank is extremely volatile hence there is a restriction on movement which is actually good for the Palestinians. In 2022 alone, there were over 300 shootings from radicals in the West Bank so when you complain of attacks from settlers, it goes both ways. Israel has a right to protect its people from the Palestinians and Just because the West Bank is safer than Gaza does not mean it's perfect for the Jews. Don't forget that there is still a cold war ongoing in the West Bank.
We have seen people in other conflict areas, the people of the West Bank are the most pampered and spoilt than people in any other conflict area. Israel has conceded too much more without getting anything in return. I think Israel has been super fair. No other nation will pamper their enemies the way Israel pampers the people of the West Bank. If you are interested in being Humane and not just political, then talk about Sudan, the Kurds, Yemen, and Syria. Talk about the Christian persecution in Arab land and then I will hear you. But when you add your voice to the world's most pampered people, that's where you lose me

tctrills:
Let's go through what you have said one by one. To your first question, I always listen to both side. I understand the Russian excuse. I watched Tucker's interview with Putin and I have heard other Russians give their reason for the war.
Now let's talk about the West Bank that you brought up.
Do you know that the Human Development Index is 0.715 that is about the same with the nation of Jordan. It has a higher HDI than almost every country in Africa including yours.
Did you know that life expectancy in the West Bank is 76.6 years? Yet you guys claim these people are suffering and Israel is oppressing them.
Are there any restrictions in the West Bank? Yes, and all of them are born out of security concerns.
Please, me and you know people who are suffering. Those in the West Bank are not in any way suffering.
By the Human Development Index, they are an Average county.
If the West Bank was in Africa, it would be among the top 10 countries in Africa.
You are fighting for people who are far better than you.
You talked about Ipob and the Nigerian government and that lacks context.
Let me ask you, what's your opinion about the Nigerian civil war? Was it a genocide? Over 2 million civilians died. If it wasn't, what are your reasons for saying so, and if it was, why are you guys not fighting for justice and compensation of the victims but you rather fight for a war 1000 miles away?

tctrills:
It's war oga. People die. You hypocrite, why are you not calling for justice in any other war going on.

DasaintHope:
How is gaza and open air prison. If you're talking about the fence on Israel side of the border, well you'll be surprised what years of constant terrorists attacks and suicide bombings can do. Besides there is the Egyptian side of the border also blocked due to palestinian affiliation with Muslim brotherhood in Egypt.
Israel pulled out of gaza in '07.
So sir, who is imprisoning them.
Prison yet Iran smuggles arms and munitions to them.
Oboy!!! These Islamists and common sense are parallel lines, they'll never meet.

APOSTLECHUMA:
God knew that a day old Palestinian baby was a future terrorist and asked Saul to wipe them off the face of the earth but he failed by disobedience, if Saul had fully obeyed God, Israel would not have been fighting this senseless war today.

Uprightness100:
See how Terrorists Fooled and fingered the brains of multiple millions of people.

Murderers and killers alongside their satanic sponsored media made a fool of humans for over 7months.

Hamas Terrorists could give the so called amount of kids casulties
Terrorists could give the so called amount of women casualty.

The same TERROR GROUP could not give the amount of Terrorists killed by ISRAEL. Yet Humanity fell for the lies, deceptions and scame of Hamas Terrorists, tgeir media arms and the palestines.
What a shame.

This is How Millions of people will Fall for the Lies and scams of the anti-christ aka the man of lawlessness, when he comes on the World stage after the RAPTURE.
Multiple millions and billions left behind will fall for his lies, take the Mark of the Beast and be Doomed forever.


“And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie…”

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ISRAEL.
GOD BLESS ISRAEL.
I STAND 1000% WITH ISRAEL.

Bubu4Sea:
I don't see Christians going around killing Christians in the name of Jesus


Moslems kill Christians for allah

Bubu4Sea:
The God of the Bible says.

Unlike the god of religion of peace, that only blows people up.

Jesus had many witnesses & His followers were called Apostles, which is above prophets.

The religion of peace guy had not independent witness & Claims to be a prophet with no miracle🤣.

Now if the followers of Jesus were Apostles, that means Jesus is above Apostles which is above prophets.

No wonder Jesus lives & the prophet of religion of peace is dead😜

Riskymarvelous:
I will not say anything now until dey kill all those useless Muslim terrorist finish

Khyrvxjzy:
dont be stupid
use your head
if your child is among those murdered on October 7 will you say this

if isreal stop the war now, hamas will do attack within a year, these people vow they kill all isreali or be killed

the only language they understand is that they die


bro use your head oooo

isreal will go ahead, nothing America will do

terrorism is ending now

Righteousness2:
UNBELIEVABLE but Not Suprised!!

I have always said that Biden was appointed to bring about GOD'S Wrath on America aka Mystery Babylon.
Since he came into power all sorts of abominations have not been in short supply right from the white house.

Turning his back on GOD'S Land is the Red line.

America or America GOD will Defend HIS Land.
America or No America , ISRAEL will Invade Rafah and Crush Hamas.

IT is a privillege for America to have ISRAEL as its most Trusted ally. America has gained do much from GOD'S COVENANTWith ISRAEL.

America is a World Power because of ISRAEL
Nomerica will be brought low because of ISRAEL.


My Prayer is Lord God save and Preserve you Children who trust in you and are against this satanic biden move.

I STAND WITH ISRAEL IN SPIRT AND IN TRUTH.

obedience4:
The Palestine people rejected a two state solution year's ago,
They voted out the UN recognised authority in Gaza the PLA and brought in a terrorist group hamas,
Hence they brought about instability and chaos in the Gaza strip
The only way there will be Peace is the disarmament of hamas

Akwamkpuruamu:
Hahahha! Iran is hiding and lying they don't have nuclear war head,.... Taquiyya

Crownbackhome:
Are you sure he didn't use them

jmoore:
Impersonator can wear a hijab to write exams for another person.

Righteousness2:
The Ayotollahs are extremely Afraid of Striking ISRAEL. They know the Consequences will be so fatal on them.

Any Mistake from the Ayotollahs could Hasten the fufillment of a prophecy of over 2000 yrs ago given by Prophet Jeremiah

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Israel KNOWS that they have to deal with IRAN DIRECTLY and take out 2 things.
1) It's nuclear ☢️ program
2) It's ballistic missiles

They need to cut the head off that snake 🐍 before it can target 🎯 and destroy Israel with nuclear weapons.

Which is exactly what was prophecied by the Prophet Jeremiah in the Holy Bible.
Jeremiah 49:35-37.

It is not a Matter of if it will Happen. It is a Matter of When will it happen.

gaby:
This needs to be investigated and reviewed immediately to conform with Kenya's Visa policy for Nigerians.

TenQ:
Why are you dodging these Questions?
Didn't Allah tell you anything about Jesus of value?
1. Why do you think Jesus did not have a father? If God can create Adam without either,
Didn't your prophets say that every descendant of Adam is a sinner?
why can't he make Jesus with one?
2. Why is Jesus the only co-creator of Life with Allah? where is this written?
3. Why is it that according to Islam, Jesus is not yet dead BUT is physically with Allah above the seventh heaven? Because Allah decrees it. He can do anything without question...
4. Why is it that Jesus know what you hide in your house according to Allah ion the Quran? Where is this written ?
5. WHy is Jesus the only human called the Spirit of Allah in Islam? Lol... you are referring to the same verse that debunked his divinity where Allah said he did everything with his permission and was supported by his spirit.
6. Why is Jesus the only human called the Word of Allah in Islam?


If Allah is NOT Yahweh, do you admit that you have a big problem?
when did I say that?


You Muslims were the ones who gave extraordinary claims of the Quran: that the Quran is the exact words of Allah as dictated by Jibril. Therefore, Mohammed wasn't writing of himself
1. Who were the evidence that Jibril dictated anything to Mohammed? None, we took his word for it. For someone who is not able to read to comprehend all these pre-creation story, it could not be ordinary. Its the same way there is no evidence those who wrote the bible were moved by God.
2. Who is Jibril? An Angel
3. What is the evidence that the Quran was dictated from God? None, the same way there is no witness to the Bible's revelation.

These are easy questions to answer

About the Bible
Jesus did not write any verse of the Bible neither did He dictate any verse of the Bible.
All the Bible (From Genesis to Revelation) is the account of men moved by the Holy Spirit to document a report of real events they were witnesses to or historical events common to the people of God. Many of the Prophets who wrote the Bible were given miraculous signs as a mark of being sent by God especially when they were writing the unseen or the unknown.
The Bible consists of several historical events which has been verified and is still been verified with Archeology.

TenQ:
You answered zero questions sir!

Or do you want me to summarise the questions here again?
My Questions:
[s]1a. Is one of the 99 plus names of Allah Yahweh?[/s]
[s]1b. If it is, can you give me an Islamic evidence?[/s]
This was the only one you partially answered
In other words, Allah is NOT Yahweh: and here you have a big problem


2. . Why do you think Jesus did not have a father? If God can create Adam without either,
Didn't your prophets say that every descendant of Adam is a sinner?
why can't he make Jesus with one?
3. Why is Jesus the only co-creator of Life with Allah? where is this written?
4. Why is it that according to Islam, Jesus is not yet dead BUT is physically with Allah above the seventh heaven? Because Allah decrees it. He can do anything without question...
5. Why is it that Jesus know what you hide in your house according to Allah ion the Quran? Where is this written ?
6. WHy is Jesus the only human called the Spirit of Allah in Islam? Lol... you are referring to the same verse that debunked his divinity where Allah said he did everything with his permission and was supported by his spirit.
7. Why is Jesus the only human called the Word of Allah in Islam?

My Questions are not from the bible: they are questions you can get answers to from your Quran.

About Bible Authorship:
It seems that you now know better than Allah and your prophet Mohammed. Did Allah NOT to our scripture at the time of Mohammed?
Do you want me to tell you what Allah says about our scripture from your Quran?


On the Quran:
What is your strongest evidence that it was the direct words of God as dictated by Jibril to Muhammad?

TenQ:
Too bad: Islam is all barks but no bite!

I invite you to ask your scholars why the Messiah was sent as a prophet to the world!

Was it a mistake of Allah (Almost 4 Billion Christians in the world)!?
One of the bases of creation is God's given free will. You have a problem with Islam, I don't have a problem with Christianity.
All you attempted to do was condemn Islam, I have no intention to condemn Christianity. They are people of the book. Who were the early Christians? those who acted like Jesus and followed his teachings. What did Jesus do? He prayed to the Father and preached love.
Jesus was sent to save our souls, the same way God sent Abraham, Moses, Mohammed, and many other prophets. I don't need a scholar to tell me that. You believed Jesus died and was resurrected, we believe he never died and was raised to heaven by God. This means both religion believes he lives on, whether in body or spirit. It is the same reason God didn't make everyone white and everyone English. The ways of God cannot be questioned.


Unless you are Born Again my friend, Jesus says you cannot enter paradise!
Does that mean every human before Jesus would burn in hell? Every Jew and Muslim?
The Truth will set you free only if you choose to find it and adopt it.

Have a nice day!

TenQ:
The Brahman of the Hindus is called God but is he your Allah?

Brahman is a concept, not a form or reference to an entity.

Is Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama) of the Buddhist also the Allah of Islam?
Buddha is a human who attained enlightenment. He is not worshipped but revered.

Is Amun the Creator Deity of the Egyptians the same as Allah?
Amun-Ra as seen by the Egyptians, is a supreme being who is perceived as the Creator of everything. Then that fits into how Allah and Yahweh are perceived.

If your answer to these three questions is NO!, then you cannot generalize.


Again:
1. Is one of the 99 plus names of Allah Yahweh?
No, but it's an equivalent term. An Arab Jew will also call Yahweh, Allah. In the same way, a Yoruba will call Allah, Olorun or Eledumare and an Ibo, Chukwu. Does that mean those terms do not exist before Christianity or Islam? Man has always felt a connection to the divine even before the religions of scriptures. I believe this also answers your question 2.
2. If it is, can you give me an Islamic evidence?

TenQ:
Apologies accepted!

However,
Can you show me any evidence that ONE of the many Names of Allah is Yahweh!
because it refer to the same monotheistic supreme being in each respective religion

Sometimes when I pray, I bow to God in prayer (face down on the floor): am I a Muslim?
Sometimes when I pray, I stand on my feet to God in prayer : am I a Muslim?
Sometimes when I pray, I kneel to God in prayer : am I a Muslim?

TenQ:
Why would you manufacture a statement and attribute it to me?

Where ever did you see me call any muslim head slammer?

You have not answered my question: I didnt ask you if Muslims have a relationship with Jesus, I asked you WHY Allah sent Jesus to the world beyond the usual vague rhetorics

Again:
1. Why do you think Jesus did not have a father? If God can create Adam without either,
Didn't your prophets say that every descendant of Adam is a sinner?
why can't he make Jesus with one?
2. Why is Jesus the only co-creator of Life with Allah? where is this written?
3. Why is it that according to Islam, Jesus is not yet dead BUT is physically with Allah above the seventh heaven? Because Allah decrees it. He can do anything without question...
4. Why is it that Jesus know what you hide in your house according to Allah ion the Quran? Where is this written ?
5. WHy is Jesus the only human called the Spirit of Allah in Islam? Lol... you are referring to the same verse that debunked his divinity where Allah said he did everything with his permission and was supported by his spirit.
6. Why is Jesus the only human called the Word of Allah in Islam?


Are you saying that Allah wasted his resources on just one person in humanity and you don't know WHY Allah sent Jesus!?

If you don't know the answer tell me plainly and stop your evasive tactics.

Refer your question of head slamming for those who call you head slammers not me as it is irrelevant.

My own position is that Allah is not Yahweh: and if this is TRUE, no amount of worship or prayers will make your activities directed to the God of Moses and Israel.

Can you show me any evidence that ONE of the many Names of Allah is Yahweh!

Sometimes when I pray, I bow to God in prayer (face down on the floor): am I a Muslim?
Sometimes when I pray, I stand on my feet to God in prayer : am I a Muslim?
Sometimes when I pray, I kneel to God in prayer : am I a Muslim?

TenQ:
Allah, Eloha, Elohim, God/god, Olorun, Chukwu, Deos all mean DEITY!

The name of the Allah or Deity of the Christians is Yahweh!
Is the name of the Deity of the Muslims Yahweh?

If the name of your God isn't Yahweh , then your God (Allah) is not the same as the God of the Jews and Christians.

Have you ever met any Christian who says that the name of his God is Allah ? Ask an Arab Christian what they call God in their Language. You think Christianity only exist in English?


I ask you basic questions about Jesus for he is spoken of in the Qur'an by Allah and in the Hadiths by Mohammed.

Don't tell me you don't know anything specific with respect to my questions to you

Why do you think
1. Jesus did not have a father? If God can create Adam without either,
Didn't your prophets say that every descendant of Adam is a sinner?
why can't he make Jesus with one?
2. Why is Jesus the only co-creator of Life with Allah? where is this written?
3. Why is it that according to Islam, Jesus is not yet dead BUT is physically with Allah above the seventh heaven? Because Allah decrees it. He can do anything without question...
4. Why is it that Jesus know what you hide in your house according to Allah ion the Quran? Where is this written ?
5. WHy is Jesus the only human called the Spirit of Allah in Islam? Lol... you are referring to the same verse that debunked his divinity where Allah said he did everything with his permission and was supported by his spirit.
6. Why is Jesus the only human called the Word of Allah in Islam?


Are you saying that Allah wasted his resources on just one person in humanity and you don't know WHY Allah sent Jesus!?

Can you truthfully answer WHY without just saying narratives?

TenQ:
Islam has already invalidated itself for anyone who desires the TRUTH.



If you cannot from Islam explain the reason why Jesus is this spacial even in Islam, you are already decieved by Iblis and you are on your way to hell.

Why do you think
1. Jesus did not have a father?
Didn't your prophets say that every descendant of Adam is a sinner?
2. Why is Jesus the only co-creator of Life with Allah?
3. Why is it that according to Islam, Jesus is not yet dead BUT is physically with Allah above the seventh heaven?
4. Why is it that Jesus know what you hide in your house according to Allah ion the Quran?
5. WHy is Jesus the only human called the Spirit of Allah in Islam?
6. Why is Jesus the only human called the Word of Allah in Islam?

Can you truthfully answer WHY without just saying narratives?



I don't call Muslims head slammers

You lie, we went into this argument because you used the phrase head slammers. Now you cannot defend it. If you can lie about this, why should I believe anything you say?

The argument is not about praying or not. The issue is about following God's prescribed way of salvation.


In Islam, do you get Born Again?
In Islam, do you teach people to be born Again?
Satan tells you that it is NOT necessary condition to escape the fire of Hell and you believe him.

Islam came to give you a dummy (full of religious activities) but lacking God's SOLUTION for entering paradise all based on the deception of Iblis.
True, coming from someone whose half of his testament authorship remains anonymous and invalidated. Do you know how much of reports gets lost in translation... Even the Torah has more validity of authorship than the Bible.

This is exactly what Iblis did for Adam and Eve. He gave them another formula different from what God earlier told them.