Calitoscassius: Right, what about the young man Mutallab a wealthy Naigeerian son who had a bomb on him and wanted to blow up people that year. He is in American prison now. Look it up on google.
Muttalib is one person... this is a whole government dishing out terrorism
MadPolitician: Totall agree with you. You made lots of sense. I even worry that igbo names are disappearing but most igbos don't know.
Every igbo name these days must have some sort "Chukwu" added to it. We have been using that "Chukwumania" to bribe God for a long time.
Real igbotic names have either disappeared or are stuck with the surnames. Who still names his sons "Egwurugwu", "Ikedinobi", "Okadigbo", "Agunwa", or "Onwudinjo"? These are traditional igbo names that you will never hear as names of anyone below 30 or 40 years in igboland these days.
On the contrary what we now have is an epidemic of Chukwu this and Chukwu that, as we praise Godto high heavens as if he needs our praises to survive. And one is scared of criticising heavily because of the fear of the "thunder".
I feel you bro... so many things to question. Is it that God never sent us prophets from among our own people. Where we also marginalized or overlooked by the supreme? I have a friend who stopped using his last name an changed it from easily translated Thunder from his local language to a more biblical Meshack. He killed off the right of his children to bear that Identity. Some others changing the prefixes to their names changing ogun , osun , Oya to something more acceptable by the church. Like if the church or mosque does not accept your identity, should you not question such ?. It's endemic and arguing with people makes you a devil.
MadPolitician: You mangled everything beyond redemption. My worry has a lot to do with most blacks, including black Americans, gingerly taking Arab names as a sign of tribal defiance and cultural solidarity. You hear stuff like Jamal and Hussien and Mustafa! WTF!? That is vacuous. You share absolutely nothing in common with a group that did not jusst enslave you in millions, but castrated you in millions, and eliminated you in millions too. The whole of the Maghreb, used to be owned by "peoppe of color", you know? That was until these clan of desert hyenas jaywalked their way across into Egypt, and started a slaughtering feast that hasn't abated uptil this day. They need to be stopped not worshiped! Not interested in any comparisons.
You cannot blame our forefathers... Let me tell you, I am a Muslim. The very first problem is that I became a Muslim at birth. I explored the religion and to some extent still made sense to me. I have also compared it to my traditional religion and believe me, I do not see the difference. It's just technicalities. Now back to the discourse. History is always written by the victors. Do you think Paul, Micheal, Gabriel are all native to the English?. This shit happened all over the world. Even the Arabs were once persecuted. They only had it mild because of the advantage of the dessert. We are empowered by access to information and this has reformed our thinking and separated us from our fathers. I have mulled changing my last name back to my family name severally because only my first name identifies my tribe. I once asked my Hausa friend if they are any indeginous hausa names still existing, could only mention a few like Dan Danladi. Trust me... it is not their fault. Neither is it ours. If we were the aggressors or the ones who civilized first, those Arabs would also be bearing Chukwudi or Akinwale by now. We'd prolly have been worse.
MadPolitician: Because some black muslims worship the ijiots. We don't pay attention to history in this continent as black people. Some of you happily answer their stupid names. Yet these are the same people responsible for the most heinous, the most evil and the most vile acts during the slave trade.
These arab vermins castrated millions of black people during slavery and ended up killing millions, rather than granting them freedom after slavery. They bought more slaves than the west. All these were basically expunged from the history books. And you worship them after all that? Why won't they look down on you then?
let me get this straight... you are comparing counts between slavery driven by swords routed through the Sahara that is unfair to everyone alike stretching kilometers with the only enabler being camels to Slavery driven by long range guns, enabled by state mechanism organized armies and massively large ships. I don't give a shit about the Arabs but when you try to claim the Sub-Saharan slave trade is bigger, then you playing into the western narratives. At least the Arabs often time leaves with their loots.
I am not sure there is much of anyone that would go through what he went through and not become what he became... He became this as a result of what is. So will so many Palestinian kids witnessing this genocide.
chatinent: If you have lived longer in Nigeria, you'll understand that most policies are not basically for the electorates, but for the convenience of the chief executive...I mean if you use a longer axe to dig deeper.
Nigeria is always fortunate with unfortunate leaders who are solely interested in adding the title of the president to their name.
Bola Tinubu Ahmed, whatsoever his name is, has no progressive blueprints for Nigeria. It's gonna be failure and propaganda press releases until they remove him and force Shettima, the loud jakass who is now doing like a quiet tortoise, on Nigeria.
The only truth you need to know is that inasmuch as they keep travelling abroad for medical treatments, and ex leaders permanently living abroad, they will continue to milk the country so dry until the aerolas of green fades, and her nipples bleed.
You just gave a lot of subjective bullshit with no analysis or reference to the matter in discuss.
Idiko1: They cannot continue to harbor baseless terrorists who want disappearance of Israel, yet you want respect for boundary. I blamed fools such as the Moshe Dayan.
Taich: People hide under religion to commit all kinds of crime, from sexual exploitation to political recklessness like we have in Nigeria, they loot and steal in the name of the Lord and activate their gullible followers to defend them.
Fastest growing sectors in Nigeria. Religion and Politics.
this is what I tell everyone who cares to listen... wars are mostly fought for people's greed, not religion. Religion is innocent, people are not.
The price of diesel has for many years has been deregulated. There's no subsidy at all. That's why it doesn't suffer from scarcity.
If you just did a little research, you'd discover that the average price for a litre of diesel in the UK is 139.96p per litre in the UK.
That's 1.3996 x N2,172 = N3,039/litre
So, a litre of diesel cost about N3,039/litre In the UK.
Many of you guys are graduates but refuse to conduct any homework before dishing out figures
Bevista, who I think is an economist is busy sharing misinformation.
Petrol and diesel are heavily taxed in the UK, so how it's price can be lower than Nigerias beats the imagination.
Mo
You no get sense walahi!... I believe I mentioned 1.3 which also forms the basis of your calculation. Diesel is deregulated but government still influences the price. If I use the word 'like' it's simply because I do no want to go into the exchange rate wahala. Let the whole downstream gets completely deregulated, let the exchange rate remains stable at 2k plus... then you will see the price adjust to this 2k.
Thewrath: He is from delta state’s anioma. Nigerians will say they are igbos when they do crime but when they progress,they are not igbos
that's like what happens in Yoruba land. It basically deters you from bringing shame to your household. If you commit crime, you belong to your household. If you bring pride , you belong to the community.
LtChisom: It's important to note that it's best to look into what the Quran says about Jesus Christ. According to Islamic tradition, Jesus, whose name is Isa, is mentioned twenty-five times in the Quran. According to my knowledge, the name of Isa (Jesus) is mentioned the most in the Quran in the Surah Al-Maryam (Mary), Chapter 19.
In the Quran, the name of Isa is mentioned a total of 25 times, and 15 of those mentions are in Surah Al-Maryam. Some key verses in Surah Al-Maryam that mention Prophet Isa include: Verse 19:15 - And peace be upon him the day he was born and the day he dies and the day he is raised alive. Verse 19:33 - And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive. Verses 19:16-34 - This section provides a detailed account of the birth and life of Isa. In the same surah verse 19:19, its mentioned that Jesus is sinless the statement in the Surah is supported hy Hadist Sahih Al Bukhari 3431 mentioning the same. In Surah Al Maidah verse 110 its mentioned that Isa raise the death.
Surah Al-Maryam, which focuses on the life of Prophet Isa's mother Maryam (Mary), contains the most mentions of Isa's name in the Quran.
Here are some of the key hadith that mention Jesus (Isa) in Islam: Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 43, Hadith 656: By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly. Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 293: The Messenger of Allah said: I am the nearest of all the people to the son of Mary, and all the prophets are paternal brothers, and there has been no prophet between me and him. Sunan Ibn Majah, Book 36, Hadith 4080: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus son of Mary. Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Hadith 658: The Son of Mary will soon descend amongst you as a just ruler.
These hadith indicate that Jesus (Isa) is highly revered in Islam as a prophet of God, and that he will return in the end times to establish justice on Earth. The hadith emphasize the close connection between Mohammad and Jesus. Jesus told His disciples to be aware of the prophets that may come after Him. The warning about false prophets that Jesus gave to his disciples is found in the Gospel of Matthew, chapter 7, verses 15-20: Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.
In this passage, Jesus warns his followers to be vigilant and discerning regarding those who claim to be prophets or teachers, as some will be false and deceptive. He instructs them to judge these individuals by the fruits or evidence of their teachings and actions, rather than just their outward appearance or claims.
Now between Jesus Christ and Mohammad SAW, who is the noblest❓Can you also inform the reader how Jesus Christ could be friends to Mohammad❓ Jesus Christ is the Noblest among two, how the Noble be friends to an ordinary person❓ Jesus Christ is a humble and loving God, but he dispise evil doers.
he preached equality before the father...but then you claimed nobility cannot be friends with ordinary person.
Botragelad: Do you see the double standard here? Nobody bats an eyelid when Israel retrieves their dead, but the moment Israel acts in self-defence, everyone cries foul and accuses them of genocide.
What would you call it when hostages are killed in a tunnel, then?
What do you call it when detainees are killed in Israeli Prisons and settlers kills people in Westbank. I do not support killing on any end but you are doing injustice to the word "double standard".
What was Hamas asking for?.. Release Palestinians in captive. Thus, the prisoner exchange. If you say those in Israeli Prisons are terrorist, then tell me, can the PLO or Hamas arrest and detain the aggressive settlers in the west bank as well? They are just as much a terrorist as the resistance.
imam07: u never answered my question. Is this humanity? For your info I no be ibo.
I answered with my own question. These guys can trade with Egypt but not Israel. Israel restricts everything to stifle out their existence. If I was in Gaza , I would do the same thing. The only way to get basic amenities is to smuggle it in. What do you think a tunnel crossing to Egypt would be used for?. Israel practically made a wall across Gaza and police it's water. It also cuts it off the rest of thier brethren in Westbank. If you run a city under such siege, how will you operate to ensure the survival of your people and their access to basic things that the occupier won't let you have?. Common government law in Nigeria makes us smuggle cheaper rice from Benin. Now imagine if 70% of live basic things are controlled.
imam07: check out this latest info from Israel. All the funds inform of Aids to the Palestinians were diverted to construct tunnel from rafah to Egypt. Pls tell me d purpose of this if not wickedness.
Guy!!!!... If Nigeria grants Biafra autonomy but controls the whole border and sea restricting heavily what they have access to, will they not smuggle things through Cameroon?
To me... it does not matter... as long as we do not import the fuel any more. We will use the bad fuel until the fuel gets better. You think China started with perfect things before getting to the stage they are?
imam07: what and listen to this hamas female journalist terrorist. She claimed Palestinian war against d Israeli is not about land dispute but because they are jews so they have to be killing d Jews as a blessing to allah. U can see u know nothing about what is happening there.
Take northern nigeria for example... do you belief those guys who straps themselves to bombs, comes to the market and detonate shouting Allhu Akbar! are the actual sponsors of the unrest. Would you take the bombers opinion as the actual reason for the cause?
imam07: it is you Nigeria Muslims that turn it to religion war. 100% of Nigeria Muslims surport Palestinians against Israel because because everything is related to Islam here in naija. I still see many Christians all over d world chanting free Palestines. Just dat u people don't talk truth.
However, if you look deeply at both cases, it was never about religion. It is humans being the animal they are not supposed to be. It is greed, power grab, wickedness and animalistic behavior
Firebomber: You are really funny seriously. So it what paved way for hisslamic terrorist that's the main point now not there main aim? Look down an you will see, those conquest were never about religion, If you cannot link an uprising in the ME to a religious cause without identifying the political reason, then I should not engage you.
Seriously I give up on you, unless you are going to show us where Mandela goes about bombing innocent people in the name of religion, then you are really not okay upstairs to think you can compare resistance to terrorism. I thought you said you did not abuse me? take a look https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_resistance_to_apartheid and you will notice armed resistance and guerillas
Yes I've shown you prove that caliphate war and ottoman wars are mainly religious motivated, but you choose to look other way, well I'm not surprised.
" Two Christian monks, accompanied by Cyrus of Alexandria and the famous Roman general Aretion, came out to negotiate with 'Amr ibn al-'As. Aretion had been the Byzantine governor of Jerusalem and had fled to Egypt when the city fell to the Muslims. 'Amr gave them three options: convert to Islam, pay the jizya, or fight."
I asked you a question but you failed to answer, if the caliphate and ottoman was is not religious orientated why is it that the first thing they established is Islamic caliphate? How is this question not stupid? Islam was the official religion but that does not mean the political office was not separated from the religious office. Is it the chief Imama who orders the war? What brings about the name "Roman Catholic" or "Anglican"?
And you saying that there is no force conversion during the caliphate war is the most stupidiest thing you ever said since you are chatting here.
It really funny how you are trying so hard to whitewash your religion from it end products ( hisslamic terrorism)
And stop trying to differentiate your hisslam from politics because your hisslam itself is politics, that's why your hisslamic countries are being ruled by hisslamic laws (Sharia)
You said 3 options, yet you said it is forced. Live your life but pay tribute... You are paying someone else already were you not? Now pay us because we defeated those guys. I have not known any conquered territory in history that does not pay tribute or tax to its conqueror. Some Pillage and others require taxes. Which would you prefer? How is that forced conversion? They even gave you a much cheaper option of becoming Muslim. At some point, everyone wanted to convert for economic gain, and conversion was banned temporarily. What influenced the Roman laws after adopting Christianity? Was Europe not ruled by the bible at some point? Religion might easily unify people for a cause but the underlying purpose is usually political. The prophet never fought any provocative war, it was always defensive and preventive. If those who made states after him choose to expand and conquer. They did it for personal gain.
Let me ask you an interesting question. 98% of the people in Ikwere were Christians, was their killing of the Aluu 4 according to the bible? Or is it just pure human barbarism?
Firebomber: The caliphate war( holy war) is called what? The ottoman war is called what? Or should I start mentioning the war that your muhammad fought too 😂 😂 oga I've given you the list long ago, but it seems religious bigot are hard to educate, 😂 well what did I expect from someone that's using war to justify terrorism 😂
You are hilarious, show us the victim of boko haram in there early stage, the first boko haram attack on Muslim was against an islamic preacher that is against them, so what's your point please.
Shut up jare, so those members of ISIS, Jamaat Nusrat Al-Islam wal Muslimeen (JNIM), Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG), Al-Qa’ida (AQ) and other over 100 hisslamic terrorist groups don't know about your hisslam or your quran, 😂 well I'm not surprised, they too also claim that you don't know about Islam and quran. Well still doesn't change the fact that they still use your quran and haddith to justify there act and also fight th course of your allah.
There was a time wearing of hijab is never an issue in public missionary school, but now they even turn violence because of wearing of hijab, they are Muslims then and they are Muslims now, so what change?
good... you mentioned it... tell me... what paved way for the creation of ISIS?... what was AQ issue with the US? What led to the situation in Afganistan?. What led to the situation in Libya and Syria? Like I said, these are all politics not religion. I once asked you. If the ottoman and caliphate war was mainly religious, why was there no forced conversion and if you claim there was, give me your source. Vietnam resistance, Mandela etc were all called terrorists. If they had a common ideology, that ideology would be accused of causing the terror.