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TenQ:
Unfortunately as Muslims you don't know that Christians take ANY position in prayer.
We can
*Kneel to Pray
*Stand to Pray
*Sit to Pray
*Walk in Prayer
*We pray in our vehicles
*We pray on the Plane
*Bow to pray
We are not BOUND by postures in Prayers

Our God is not one located in either Mecca or Jerusalem, therefore we need not face any direction to pray!

Facing the Kaabah is a simple way of achieving uniformity and unity. It does not make the Kaabah divine. it was even narrated that Umar said
I know that you are only a stone which can neither bring benefit nor cause harm. Were it not that I had seen the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kiss you, I would not have kissed you.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1520; Muslim, 1720). You bring your assumptions and make them facts

Let me help you by using your exact formula

1. Do you Muslims look up to pray?
John 17:1
When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you,
[b]Mark 7:34
And looking up to heaven, he sighed and said to him, “Ephphatha,” that is, “Be opened.”[/b]

Because Muslims does have stated time to pray does not mean they don't sretch their hands, look up to heaven and call to Allah when need be. Infact, after solat, that's all that is done and you are encouraged to praise and glorify God in everything you do.

2. Do you Muslims go up the mountain to pray?
Matthew 14:23
And after he had dismissed the crowds, he went up on the mountain by himself to pray. When evening came, he was there alone,

Prophet Mohammed did seek solitude in the mountains to meditate. In fact, the first revelation occurred in a cave on Mount Hira outside of Mecca. That does not make mountains significant, its simply a way of seeking solitude.

3. Here is ahypocrite who prayed standing like you Muslims
Luke 18:10-14
“Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

Do you muslims pray beating your chest when you?
And whose account was this?. Jesus, or Lukes?

4. We don't make repetitions of memorised words when we pray. Don't you make recitations of rakats like
Reciting, 'Allahumma salli 'alaa Muhammadiw wa 'alaa aali Muhammadin, kamaa sallayta 'alaa Ibraheema wa 'alaa aali Ibraheema, innaKa Hameedum Majeed. Allahumma baarik 'alaa Muhammadiw wa 'alaa aali Muhammadin, kamaa baarakta 'alaa Ibraheema wa 'alaa aali Ibraheema, innaKa Hameedum Majeed'
This shows you don't even know what you are saying, this does not even fit into any Raka and it's your choice to recite it afterwards.

Mathew 6:7-8
7 And when you pray, do not babble on like pagans, for they think that by their many words they will be heard. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.
First, the only thing constant in a raka is Fathia, the other is of your choosing. And I can Imagine how many times you recite John 3:16. and would you call speaking in tongues babbling as well?

5. We can pray sitting, do you?
2 Samuel 7:18:
"Then King David went in and sat before the Lord, and he said: 'Who am I, Sovereign Lord, and what is my family, that you have brought me this far?'"

6. Are you permitted to walk in-between prayers in Islam without doing ablution?

You get it wrong, there are obligatory prayers and there are voluntary prayers and there are time you just praise God as you deem fit. looks like you only have problems with the obligatory prayers.

Matthew 26:39:
"Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed , 'My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.'"


My friend:
RELIGION will send you to hell fire. Jesus has come to save you.

Why do you think
1. Jesus did not have a father?
Didn't your prophets say that every descendant of Adam is a sinner?
2. Why is Jesus the only co-creator of Life with Allah?
3. Why is it that according to Islam, Jesus is not yet dead BUT is physically with Allah above the seventh heaven?
4. Why is it that Jesus know what you hide in your house according to Allah ion the Quran?
5. WHy is Jesus the only human called the Spirit of Allah in Islam?
6. Why is Jesus the only human called the Word of Allah in Islam?

I don't know whats worse, the fact that you want to invalidate Islam, or you are using Islam to validate Christianity.

You have gone all around throwing Jesus when I have not for once argues with you about the status of Jesus.

The argument still remain, why call Muslims head slammers when even in the Bible , God was prayed to by both humans, Angels, and even Jesus bowing down. Can we , by your definition, call them head slammers too?

TenQ:
Let me remind you where this conversation started from:
You said!

I responded with the fact that this is indeed a Deception (Taqqiyya from you)
1. In your Al-Fathia, five times a day, you call us chriatian and Jews those who earned earn your Allah's anger and of those who go astray.
2. You call us Najis (FILTHY and UNCLEAN)

I answered you and even quoted a proof scripture.
We are to Worship the father in Spirit and in Truth!


I answered you: that what makes a person unclean is NOT outward appearance but what comes out from your heart as SIN.
I even gave you another proof scripture!

If you imprison me in a soakaway full of excrement, it doesn't stop me praying and worshipping God!

Would i rather be filthy at any time? NO!
I prefer to be clean at all times whether in my house or out of my house.


I have explained this above. I would rather be clean even if going to my farm.

Your problem is that you don't have any comprehension of the fact that God is SPIRIT!
If you did, you wouldn't have asked the mundane questions


No problem, unclean Muslims can be called Najis
BUT ALL Christians and ALL Jews are Najis
This is wickedness if ALL the people of the Book irrespective are NAJIS!


Islam is a PHYSICAL religion.
You don't know that even within SEX with your wive, you can worship the God who gave you a lovely wife and who gave you health and peace to enjoy her.
I guess Iblis probably created sex (within marriage) in Islam.

Of course, I don't expect you to understand this: You think while you were naked in bed with your wife, God closed his eyes and he didnt see you?


It seems you are lacking in knowledge of your religion
Sahih Muslim 2922
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

I can see how you accept the Jews with open hands.

Is this hadith Daif or Maudu?


Allah never called Muslims people of the Book
Mohammed never called Muslims people of the book

I stand to be corrected!



Allah solemnly

Qur'an 46:9
Say (O Muhammad SAW):"I am not a new thing among the Messengers (of Allah) nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am but a plain warner."

Quran 19:71
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the Fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord

Meaning that ALL Muslims will at least first be in Hell Fire.
Here is the Arabic if you do not like the translation above
وَإِن مِّنكُمۡ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَاۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتۡمࣰا مَّقۡضِیࣰّا


I hope you are not surprised that the greatest example of mankind to the Muslims prophet Mohammed promised you Muslims to be in the Fire of Hell: there is no escaping it.
After some time, he will remove you sha

Let me get back to the original question:

Here are references to how to pray in the Bible

1 Kings 8:54 (NIV):
"When Solomon had finished all these prayers and supplications to the Lord, he rose from before the altar of the Lord, where he had been kneeling with his hands spread out toward heaven."

Psalm 95:6 (NIV):
"Come, let us bow down in worship, let us kneel before the Lord our Maker."

Daniel 6:10 (NIV):
"Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before."

Matthew 26:39 (NIV):
"Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, 'My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.'"

Luke 22:41 (NIV):
"He withdrew about a stone’s throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed."

For Humans

Revelation 7:11 (NIV):
"All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God."

Isaiah 6:2-3 (NIV):
"Above him were seraphim, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying. And they were calling to one another: 'Holy, holy, holy is the Lord Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory.'"

For Angels.... I guess you can call them head slammers as well.

In Fathia, I did hear the mention of Jews or Christians, I do know that when referring to those, they are called directly by those names or referenced as people of the book. So your conclusion holds no basis.


Also, can you provide a reference that called all Christians and Jews as Najis, In the Quran?

Also, you refer to an Hadith on the last hour, you think the Bible is devoid of violence and destruction. let me refer you to some chapters.

Deuteronomy 20:16-18 (NIV):
"However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God."

1 Samuel 15:3 (NIV):
"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."

Psalm 137:9 (NIV):
"Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."

Joshua 6:21 (NIV):
"They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys."

I do know God is incomprehensible and he is a spirit. You can call on him anywhere and most things , even the right full sex is seen as an act of worship. But when I want to Pray to have a conversation with my God, I would rather be clean and lie down flat devoid of any earthly pride. Thats in spirit, and in truth.

Afrobasic:
Islam is one of the worst things that has happened to humanity

Feel so sorry for those women. Forced to wear hijab even to the gym all in the name of some imaginary god.

in the 21st century, you still believe anyone forces others to dress in a particular way or manner?. Did you bother to check if this Hijab or Abaya is compulsory in Soudi Arabia before using the term force?... would you rather they wear thongs and bra?... you guys are a bunch of hypocrites. You claim people dress indecently these days but have a problem with a set of people who covers thier unclothedness.. No matter how they do it, it's better to dress modestly than expose every bits of cracks in the name of exercise. Let me ask you, what you you say if these were nuns?

Image recovery tactics... they really hope to get the powers back on their side after killing thier citizens.

TenQ:
You claim you don't use bad words on Christians, yet is it true that the name Najis mean FILTHY?
Is it right to call a People FILTHY or UNCLEAN?

You even have the gut to say ALL people of the book (Jews and Christians) have a threshold of being astray or to have incurred the wrath of Allah?
But ALL Muslims are Rightly guided isn't it?

Tell me, if Islam is not Satanic, what is the Offence of the Jews?
(At least they do not beleive in the Trinity)

Jesus said:
The TRUE worshippers will worship the father in Spirit and in Truth
John 4:23
Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.


Is God your Father?
What is Spirit?

Too bad, just as Adam was misguided by Allah, so you are!


In Christianity: the only thing which makes a man filthy before God is SIN!
Unlike in Islam when an Angel cannot even come near a dog or a toilet (this cannot of course be true angels)

Matt 15:11-20
But whatever comes out of the mouth comes from the heart, and this is what makes a man unclean and defiles [him]. For out of the heart come evil thoughts (reasonings and disputings and designs) such as murder, adultery, sexual vice, theft, false witnessing, slander, and irreverent speech.

Too bad sir: If you don't think and ask necessary questions, you will find yourself in Hell fire willingly deceived by satan

Second time you have failed to answer any of my questions but sends in more of your own and leave the point to explore more areas.

Let me remind you, the discussion started with you calling Muslims head slammers. I asked you... How did your scripture recommend you pray and worship God? No answer.
Secondly, I asked you, would you rather be bodily filthy to worship God? No answer.

you went about telling me more about spiritual cleanliness. So why do you bother bathing before going to church?
Would you rather call and worship God while you are in the toilet than do this at the altar or somewhere clean?
I told you, the term is not reserved for non-Muslims alone, being unclean is a state that anyone can change at any time but you are hell-bent on attaching your own meaning to it..
Would you rather just have sex with all the ooze and pray, or would you rather clean up like you are meeting with your boss, benefactor, and lord?

what is the Offence of the Jews? You are funny, I have never met a Muslim who has an issue with Jews, they are people of the books. Tell me where Muslims have ever persecuted Jews. You don't know your religion's history. One of the problems in the Middle East is a result of the magnanimous Muslims accepting Jews with open arms. Do you even know Jews would rather worship in a Mosque than a Church? go figure.

But ALL Muslims are Rightly guided isn't it?... you don't read to understand... I do not see where I excluded Muslims from people of the book. Makes them liable to go astray as well.

Once again, I would expect you to ignore all my questions and ask more of your own.... also sir, you do not decide who goes to Hell, that's up to God to decide at his discretion.

seunayantokun:
What else do they want if they don't want 2state solution?

The zionist wants the whole lot now... thou I would not blame them as anyone would pursue their goal if they had the power. Thou their goal is unfair to the Palestinian people, might is unfortunately right in the international scene. The Arabs had their chance, they could as well get another shot at it in the future, but for now, Israels is the stronger one. What I don't like is those that make this a religious business. It is simply a war of resources with too many stakes.

seunayantokun:
As long as Hamas is still keeping the hostages and using innocent places as cover, I can't see how there will be 2state solution implemented. In fact, life in Gaza is longer sure. All they need is a change.

They no longer want a 2 state solution for a long time now, they gave them Gaza as token for west bank. You should ask yourself this, do you call Nigeria a country if our bothers are controlled by Cameroon?

TenQ:
Is this Taqqiya?

Because is it untrue that you Muslims call us Christians and Jews Najis?

What is the meaning?


When you recite the Al-Fathia, who are those you refer to in verse 7?

lol, you left the main point but I will indulge you.

Najis is anyone not in a clean state, even Muslims. Purify yourself when you worship and try to remain pure, that's the basis of the concept.
All people of the scriptures have a threshold of being astray or to have incurred the wrath of God. The people of Soddom and Gomorrah and the Egyptian Pharaohs. Whether you believe the scriptures afterward or not, you have basic rules of God's requirement. Worship me and be good. Anything beyond that is astray and might incur the wrath of God except you repent and seek forgiveness.

Now tell me, how has your scripture mentioned to worship God, how has it mentioned the Angels worship him, How did Jesus himself pray to and worship the Father. Also, would you rather be filthy when you worship God?

ShinjaWWest:
God bless Israel for doing the lord's work

I wish I can help Israel to do the lord's work

Death to all head slamming mohammadian terrorists

Thank you isreal for killing head slamming mohammadian terrorists 🙏🙏🙏

God bless the good people of Southsouth and Southwest

the day you understand your religion and how you are supposed to worship and how Jesus worshipped God... that is when you will stop calling Muslims head slammer. Despite all your hate, no true Muslim will ever slander your religion.

How convenient releasing this after US joined the rest of the west have sentiments against them.... so who will provide the confessions of IDF atrocities?... Same Israel that houses majority of the west's registered sex offenders.

ebexofficial:
Very unprofessional

Slavery mentality, you wont have a problem if he was speaking in queens english

merits:
Loriro.
It won't work,the way they want to move Mile 12 till today Mile 12 still dey gidigba na just gra-gra to get their own commission from people selling there.

I believe Mile12 was initially set out to be a market and not a residential area converted to serve commercial purposes. Also... the leaders seems to have quite an influence in current government. The excuse for wanting to move the market was due to the traffic it garners but this is just the government inadequacies on fixing alternative routes...such as akanimodo-alapere link road, isheri -maiden link road, agboyi -irawo link road and even the fourth mainland bridge. These are all roads that can further reduce traffic on the strip. For village, there is basically no alternative and this causes a lot of traffic especially for those trying to catch a local flight.

DohFahSo:
Mole kor, molue ni.
These guys are absolute clowns.
Honestly, I think APC should be scrapped totally. That was how Lai Mohammed used to spill trash, now it's Bayo's turn.

The country is in chaos but these guys are using 500m for a dead committe. Ahhahn. No fear of God again.

We warned Nigerians but they said they wanted emilokan. Some Yorubas turned it to a tribal war - they wanted to teach Igbos a lesson. Guess who is being taught a lesson now.

A bag of rice is almost 70k, cement is 6k5, garri is 2k per paint, but the president is gallivanting upandan without purpose, plans or wisdom. Damn. This man is the final doom of Nigeria.

We all warned, but we were called ipob, Omo Igbo, Omo ale, bastards and other sorts of words. Now, who is suffering?

If you look at the election, the number of Yoruba that voted for Peter Obi despite their person being fielded is quite high. This means that more Yorubas are less tribalistic. Now, let's check the result from the east.

HeatSeeker:
Basically every working day. There are about 20-22 working days in a month. This is absolutely bonkers!

use the working days to work your workers

DissTroy:
For remote workers or people who work a lot from home, use co-working spaces at intervals. Asides shielding you from nosy envious neighbours, it helps you connect with people with like minds to balance your social life.

Work some days at home and work in co-working spaces on other days. Or if you have friends who are also techies living close to you, you guys can work some days rotatingly at each other's apartments. One week or three days rotation. Helps balance your social life too.
You can talk about the fine girl your friend just met , or some crazy thing politicians are up to, or some Twitter trend while you work. Fun too. Then you go home to your nosy neighbours not getting into your business.

lol... so they can pack all of you together at one point. Na only yourself you know to be clean o!.

They are yet to identify the guy... but you quickly added Islamist to your story. Story about fulani herdsman will always have Islamist in it but ipobs stories will never have Catholic or Christians in it. It's a shame how low we have come.

Botragelad:
Let's all play dumb until the US or the Israelis give them a bollocking then you start to see protest everywhere.

I hope Iran can cope with what's in store for them!

did you read the thread or you deliberately ignored the part where Israel and US has been blowing up Iran's Asset?. What do you think US would do if Iran has bases in Mexico and Canada and blowing up US interests there?. This double standards is alarming.

And you are asking this question on Nairaland?... you seem to overrated the people here.

EmperorCaesar:


Is it just me, or is Medicine still at his infant stage?

Going by the number of sicknesses that cant be truly cured, U begin to wonder why there are so many things available to terminate peoples life at anytime and why these things keep frustrating the efforts of science and technology

In the end, theres nothing special about death(An occurence that wont meet u alive shoudnt be scared), we only worry about many things we will miss and thats why we just would do anything to live


All these is pointless if u can always remember that since 2000BCE till u were born, a lot have happened, yet u care less during those period cause u werent even aware.

Once u have this in mind, u will stop fighting hard to save what cant be saved

Most illness popped up overtime due to our advancement in technology. They mutated due to our stints with nature. As long as our tech continues to evolve, we will continue to give rise to mutations and play catch up. This is cause and effect. You cannot eat your cake and have. Consequences

This is madness of the highest order... the actions of some people makes it difficult to argue for Islam. I mean what fuckery is this?

NzogbuNzogbu:
typing rubbish

Iran problem didn't start with sanction, it started in the 70,s during the era of violent islam

Go to YouTube and watch Iranians crying how much the ayatollah have wrecked their lives and economy by using resources to sponsor terror groups

If you had brain why would israel fight russia that isn't fighting it, israel has always been about self defence

...and occupation and oppression.. Nakba 48 was no self defence

Ladech:
Calm down bros. Am not talking their moral uprightness or the evil you think they have done. Whatever you think about them, you will be either stupid/ignorant to deny that they are strong. Am emphasizing their strength.
You all keep jumping on threads without deep thinking.
Carry your yeye energy go elsewhere abeg!

I haven't denied the fact that they are strong and in international relations....might is right. I only also emphasized another point of strength that they have which is the systemic enforcement of thier opinion giving them a do no wrong status. I have also not directed any insult your way so the "deep thinking" was not necessary

Botragelad:
Yeah. Saddam Hussein the bloody terrorist.
There's an agreement!

What are you going to do about it?

Sadam is a terrorist... but Kim Jong un is not.

Why has that guy not been attacked?... simple... they don't have oil.

Botragelad:
Of course the US has an agreement with these countries. Lol

You guys shouldn't spout all sort of nonsense!

the US has an agreement with Iraq? With which government in Iraq? The one it formed and imposed after ousting Saddam?

Ladech:
The strength of the US is in intelligence gathering. This guys can tell the color of the pants you are wearing if they need to.

the strength of the US is brainwashing everyone that they are inteligent enough to be right for every of their actions. Its in you believing whoever they tag terrorist is the terrorist while covering up thier excesses and errors. Even when they only threatened the aggressive settlers in west Bank with visa ban which means they silently approve of the settlement of the zionist in contravention of UN law of occupation but supplies Isreal with weapon to fight off Palestinians aggressions.

Botragelad:
Care to explain how that classifies as terrorim,or your ignorant self do not understand what a base is!

makes sense if you have an agreement with the country not after entering the country on the guise of a nuclear weapon which does not exist and refusing to leave while mounting multiple bases. If Nigeria has an agreement to have military base in Benin... makes sense. Not when nigeria goes to Benin to oust the president for having nuclear weapon while kiĺing thousands. Searched and found none...but left a military base there all in the name of forming a democratic government to take over from the regime you ousted and to maintain peace in a chaos you caused.

Fountainofyouth:
Toh and there is an ongoing temporary ceasefire, they now resort to attack from within Israel, these people are hugely sick in the head, do they not fear for their lives? How can a human be so gullible to be braiwashed to die for a stupid cause? These people have to experimented on and studied, they are wired different from other sane humans.

from within Israel? How is Westbank within Israel?

alimiadedayo1:
your brain is dormant.. why would someone in the first place hold someoone on hostage for whaterver reason?

Why would Israel hold 10k Palestinians hostage for whatever reason. People ignore that what's going on is an hostage exchange but thinks Hamas are the first to draw blood. How did those Palestinians ended up in Israeli prisons without charge?

oluwaseyi0:
How is Isreal going to ensure Hamas doesn't just go ahead to kidnap more people whenever Hamas is bored?

Releasing the hostage to me is not the last bus stop, it's ensuring Hamas will be too decapitated and scared the adopt another people

Like Israel is killing and arresting 100s in Westbank to replace those they just released?
This double standard is just so crazy that you all lose an iota of conscience.
You always forget that those who fought for Nigerian's independence were once labeled terrorists as well same way IPOB are proscribed terrorists too.

dontiky:
no sane person today will want to live with Muslims. You go read your Quran and argue with the verse that encourage killing of none Muslims. What is the crime of benue plateau southern kaduna and many none Muslims persecuted in Nigeria? Even Palestinian Christians live peacefully in Israel than among their brothers. You and I know that Islam hates to see people living peacefully. If they don’t find none Muslims to kill they start killing each other. The world will be a better place without Islam. Jews and Christians read the same bible Jews exclude New Testament in theirs but Muslims hate the Jews even when the Quran tells them that Israel are God’s own people. The Bible made us understand that who ever stands with his people will for ever be blessed hence the reason many nations who understand this are doing. Those who keep going against them shall be doomed. A world is enough for the wise.

Although, you do not deserve a reply but I will indulge you.
First, A jew hate a Christian more than they do Muslims.. Jews have a problem with Arabs, not Muslims.
Go and verify, A Jew can pray in the mosque but would never enter into a church because they believe both religions are monotheistic.
Muslims don't have any problem with Jews and Christians. They are all people of the books and there are verses in the Bible which ask believers to kill too ... Go check Lev 20 and many other verses. If you bring context into this, then you should be so kind as to check the context for Quranic verses too before spewing rubbish. Then you speak as thou there are not Christians and Jews in Saudi, Qatar, Oman, and even Iraq and Iran. You really need to have sense. and before you run mad patapata, Muslims believe in all the testaments including the Bible... Just the assumption that some part of the bible has been tampered with to introduce the trilogy and the divinity of Jesus. The is the same issue Jews have with the Bible.

Harrisonwo:
Land swap, isreal was offering to give you a small percentage of land in exchange of already settled area.
Please read each peace offering made and see who backed out/renegaded. The issue of Gaza is Hamas, until the people removes Hamas there will always be problem. Why is this same issue not happening in the area controlled by PNA?

because the PNA has no authority whatsoever and Israel continues to treat Palestinians in westbank as subhuman. Isreali settlers continues to take homes and lands from the people of Palestinians in west bank and PNA can't do shit about it. That is the kind of arrangement Isreal wants in Gaza as well...but Gaza resisted. Hamas is not even fighting for the release of people in Gaza, they fighting for the release of mostly people unjustly arrested and detained in the Occupied West Bank. It's so easy for you to criticize these guys because they are not fighting for your cause. If Ibos are treated like second-class citizens even in Anambra, a lot of them will low key have sentiments toward IPOB. If farmers are being killed their lands are being given to Fulani settlers and those who raise concerns are being killed or arrested. does it even make sense for Israel to be offering a small percentage of land? does it make sense for them to keep settling? They already have a region, but they keep expanding and settling knowing fully well that occupied regions are not theirs. If someone comes to take my land from me. I would fight back no matter how powerful that being is even if I am being labeled a terrorist. Thats what you would do too.

dontiky:
has anyone reported the number of hamas fighters that have been killed so far? All Palestinians killed are innocent civilians according to hamas none is Hamas member and people like you believe them. Most of the people you see on tv usually carry guns and rocket launchers to attack Israel drop them and cry when they are bombed. Hamas feel israel is close to getting and exposing them hence the release of hostages. 72 Israeli soldiers have died so far. Tell me if it is the innocent Palestinians that killed them

The hostage exchange is to expose Israel to the world...its so people can see there are prisoners on both ends with Israel having a much larger share. Imagine Ibos being arrested, persecuted, and seen as lesser humans on the streets of Lagos simply because there is an IPOB somewhere. Imagine kirikiri being full of Ibos and someone somewhere is justifying it. Imagine Ibos voting IPOBs into power in the east but then Imo is still under Nigerian rule and occupied by the Nigerian government and they go about bringing in Yorubas to settle on the land and kick out Ibos from their homes and arrest those who resists including children.