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befocused:
Sure! we also need him in every area of our lives 'cos he can do all things

Haphard:
Una mentality shaaaaaa, see its simple the bible says we should all pay tithe but d bible didn't say we should be concerned about how its been spent.... So if any pastor misuses God's money na him own wahala with God. And who told u they're robbing God with the amount they collecting?? Touch not my anointed the bible says remember..

GrizzlyBear:
The thing about humans is that we tend to excogitate ideas about our world, through our perception of it. And this is also what's at the root of religious beliefs. We tend to ascribe agency to our environment. We think, that since this is how it is in our world, then this must have been how it happened.

Humans evolved consciousness to the level of understanding our environment and aiding our survival. I don't think we have evolved the cognitive capacity to understand something outside of our environment. I don't think we possess the understanding and level of consciousness to comprehend whatever it was that engineered the creation of our universe and the other million universes that exist. It's simply beyond our scope of reasoning and understanding. Maybe in a million years to come we would, but given our level of consciousness and scientific knowledge, we possibly can't in our generation.

That's why I laugh when I see people make claims about the creator of the universe and attribute humanly traits to it, like father and son, and even claim that he demands their worship, speaks to them, answers their prayers, watches them when they are alone, stalks their everyday movements and activities, loves them unconditionally, punishes them when they break moral principles that were obviously humanly constructed, wants a personal relationship with them, and would punish those who don't believe in him in hell for all eternity. Not only does this represent a severe case of delusion and intellectual vacuousness, it also represents how self conceited humans are.

I think questions like this represents a huge gap in our knowledge and understanding about our world, especially given the fact that we are anthropomorphic species that love to seek patterns in our environment. But the truth is that we simply don't have answers to this question of whether the universe has a creator or not, and what the nature of the creator is. However, a serious problem arises when we decide to fill up these holes in our knowledge, with delusions and concoctions, or religious beliefs, like we all commonly refer to them as.

I mean, doesn't it baffle anyone that the understanding we have about our world was presented by desert dwelling folks who lived 4000 years ago? Doesn't anyone find this unsettling? I mean, even if anyone was to propose a valid explanation of the true nature of our world and it's creator, even if it's strewn with lies, at least let it be people from the 20th century and beyond. At least these people would be less ignorant and more morally sound.

hahn:
Hcpaul, leave Bubu o. Na my guy. He is only doing what Jesus would have done as a true Christian

KingEbukasBlog:
Judaism is like a culture and religion for the Jews. The aforementioned was their culture thousands of years ago . And we are Christians- followers of Christ - and we are not subjected to obey those laws (though they are old fashioned anyway ) . This type of lifestyle was given to them by God (Yahweh )

Just like its the culture of some African tribes to wear a type haircut

https://d34elvfuwuckt2.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2014/01/Ancient-African-Hairstyles-500x350.jpg

And in some cultures in Africa , its forbidden to eat or kill snakes or do some certain things .

That's why atheist Jews can still practice Judaism as a culture : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism

Hahn and his usual ignorance of the issues he raises.

Gboyee4fun:
shio of you, you need someone that will introduce you to JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD.

peacesamuel94:
If I were to sum up the arguments between atheists and theists, I would say that atheists do not believe the universe was created while the theists do.


So going by the atheist's logic, the universe was uncaused, The world and everything within it, came by co-incidence. hence there is no tangible reason for our existence.

So My question is, who created the scientific laws and principles governing the earth? How did an uncaused physical entity set up rules to govern all that goes on within it.
If the world came accidentally, why does the organization within it,
seem to contradict it's accidental origin?

blueAgent:
Its Obvious you have no knowledge of Science.

“Everyone who is seriously involved in the
pursuit of science becomes convinced
that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the
Universe–a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which
we with our modest powers must feel humble.”
“In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people
who say there is no God. But what really makes
me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.”
–Albert Einstein
Clark, Ronald W. (1971). Einstein: The Life and
Times . New York: World Publishing
Company



“There is no ground for supposing that matter
and energy existed before [the Big Bang] and
were suddenly galvanized into action. For what
could distinguish that moment from all other
moments in eternity? It is simpler to postulate
creation ex nihilo—Divine will constituting
Nature from nothingness.”
–English mathematical physicist Edmund T.
Whittaker, winner of the Copley Medal, which is the most prestigious award in British science

ever811:
since you have not been able to tell me how I got to exist, but base your ignorance on unfruitful argument all your life trying to explain how life started as you look so foolish when ever you think you are making sense I will leave you to your folly...God can't crate nothing and you won't tell me for sure who or what created all things...oh...I forgot you argued with your self that a lifeless and unintelligent matter
released chemicals that brought you to life,but won't tell me how matter came into existence....tell me the starting point of existence and I will take you serious...the white man presented to you, truth and lies...you choose lies and argument...so don't Chanel your frustration on we who has chosen truth,.. you still have enough time to make a U-turn...

4kings:
Hmmm, if Yahweh is in a spiritual cage and wants to be worshiped, what does he have to gain from lying to stop that mission?
How are u certain Yahweh gave TB Joshua that message, did u also see it with your spiritual eye?

Adeoba10:
Maybe Angel Gabriel was testing the Trumpet, or servicing the rusting part... Make Trumpet no blow for now, i never marry o.

ever811:
this should make FP so that those atheist and scientist on naira land who have refuse to make use of there brains will see how they have been foolish all the while...