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sekundosekundo:
I am a Christian, I hear the voice of my creator. But you Atheist said that it's a lie.

At least your own delusion will always communicate with you and your own delusive mind will find a way to interact with you.

That is why you are a Christian.

360ng:
Repent or you will regret in hell. Jesus loves you, its not too late to come to him. Repent Now or you will regret it in hell. The decision is yours. Revelation 21:8

With deep sense of humor and humility I must accredit a word of salutation for the op for at least caring for the lives of his dearest brothers.

The faults I find here is that the op is showing his care and concern to us in the wrong way. I was once a Christian and I still dwells with the Christians. In fact, I hardly have an atheist as my friend.

I just hate it when a religion inaccurately trained and colonized my mind to blindly hate humans like me that doesn't share the same belief with me. The Christians don't see the Muslims as people with brighter future but as a set of folks that are eternally heading to their own hell fire.
Why? Because there religion trained them to act that way.

Based on my arithmetic also, I think that we atheist are not the only people going to hell fire but the entirety of human race.

There are thousands of gods in which you only belief in one and we don't belief in none.

If the gods are 2000 then:

Atheist: 0/2000 = 0 which is originally 0 or null

Theist: 1/2000 = 0.0005 which is approximately 0 or null as a whole figure.

We all have chances of going to the hell fire of the 2000 gods.

But I just love the idea that you have been religiously configured to disbelief the existence of the other thousands of gods while only yours is the true god.

The only thing that may be responsible for the existence and origin of the universe is an eternal cause that doesn't necessarily imply a god or even a personal god.

I see no reason why the idea of an intelligent designer will equate the idea of the existence of a personal god.

God or 'personal god' is a religious terminologies among thousands that exist in the Bible of which the op has just electronically documented one while intelligent designer is a scientific jargon.

The Christians shouldn't even pray that an intelligent designer should exist because If and only if an intelligent designer eventually exist then the idea of a personal god has been totally abolished.

You have the guts to disbelief in the existence of more than 2000 gods but have the confidence of making heaven in your own doctrine while others are going to your wishfully created hell.

I just dislike any religion that evangelises her doctrines, beliefs and religious ethics. Truth necessarily don't have to be evangelized if truly it is real.

You don't have to fight, lie, battle, hate, argue, debate, compete with other religions and strive tirelessly for your imaginary god figure before the world identifies you and your god.

If that is the basis of what you have to offer then count us out.

We also hate deception and just can't imagine how one Jewish guy will be born having a earthly father and mother and still be called and concecrated as the Christ 'Saviour of mankind'.

The sin concept also looks immoral to us and likewise the philosophy behind righteousness.

I don't see sinners on earth cuz all I can see are bunches of human being striving consequently on how to survive in an world that harbor good and danger.

Man has always been recognized as the known administrator of the earth with no alien support. 100% of our problems are solved by the sane personalities among us. These are real scientific problems and not just some primitive problems created by religious folks.

As Jonnydon says, I am not ready for a paradise while 99% of my loved ones are forever in hell fire. The boresome of heaven cannot even be overstated as humans will be eternally programmed to iterate a life time role.

My eye began to open when I read with open mindedness of how the imaginary Satan left heaven. As a sane person, I don't just digressed into some silly conclusion with the Bible but instead aspired to know the whys behind such phenomena.

I began to ask questions like:

- What if Satan saw God's incapability of administrating the universe and wanted to help him out but god was annoyed?

- What if God originally lack the potential and the attributes attached to been a god of which satan has?

- What if Satan and other demons got tired with the boresome of heaven?

- What if heaven to Satan is a lifetime imprisonment?

For one-third of the angels to rebel against god in heaven clearly vindicate that there is something imperfect about the Christian god and the Christian paradise.

The sincere question should be 'what if heaven is another form of hell?'

This is the kind of investment that rich people should venture into. A wealthy man will always aspire to explore the universe and hence makes it an observable one.

Great work @Explorer.

From henceforth I will be doing business with him...

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Hiswordxray:
Well my God is more real to me than my father, mother and friends.
And I can tell you a lot about Him because know Him so intimately.
He is even right here with me telling me not to quote you but I still did anyway. Well He is my friend and won't be angry with me for disobeying Him.

Here we go again.

Your imagination is always at it's closest. Nothing is more real than the imaginary product of your own imagination.

So the Creator of the universe is there with you and he had finally accepted to become your friend That's good of you. Tell your friend to clap for himself.

Whenever wishes that are contained with selfish interest mixed up with man's imagination, the product will eventually give rise to an abject delusion.

Clown is your name and the name of your friend.

ValentineMary:
Religion is a tool for separation. Only someone who denies reality would say otherwise. Parents disown their children if they change religion, muslims employ majorly xtians, xtians employ majorly christinas, muslims hardly marry xtians, xtians hardly marry muslims. The 2 major religion in Nigeria are at loggerhead with each other. The other condemning the participants of another religion to hell.

If we cling to our religious charismatic character in Nigeria, then I fear our growth would be seriously hindered.

You deserve a medal.

Nice point by the way.

The people below me says it all as they have a lot to say.

Over to you \/

The greatest inventor is the only inventor that that doesn't exist.

No one qualifies.

I love lazy people because lazy people will find the shortest and easiest way to solve a problem.

Laziness is good but most of the time, it is abused by personalities like the OP.

Emusan:
Then who is Enoch?

Enoch is Leulbel but it wasn't recorded in the Bible.

Edek27:
SHAME ON YOU for nt undastandin simple English
U can't even ansa mw questions.
U r Ignorant dats why even the bible says dat my people are destroyed because of ignorance (lack of knowledge).
I suggest u go back nd actually READ d bible from Genesis to Revelation nd see how it all correalates
Dis the children of Israel have a personal relationship wit God
Were dey nt dependin on Aaron to speak to God for dem. Did dey even knw abt Christ or were dey alive wen Isaiah talked abt His comin
They weren't christians dey were Jews nd dey had very strict laws den
Like I said earlier its obvious dat u were brought by religious people who dnt undastand God bt r playin Religion

- Who is talking here?
Ans: God

- Who are his people?
Ans: The Christians

- Who are destroyed?
Ans: His people (the Christians).

- Who lack knowledge?
Ans: The Christians (his people).


That is why Christianity is not recommended.

But the man is still honest when compared to a man that said 'wait for me while I will never return '

promise10:
Here he goes....the DULLEST ATHEIST I have EVER met! After, he starts screaming 'kudos to sanity!!!', all around NL.


Wait a minute, I thought you said in a thread that now, you becoming an atheist, you have the chance to read books and fill up your ignorance. Where then did you read that apostle Paul coined the word christianity? Though you are claiming insanity under christianity, yet this is what you are still showcasing as a virtue even under atheism. SORRY BRO.

Bro, your delusion is SO FREAKING ANNOYING!!

What actually do you mean by Jesus reign? Was Jesus still present in this world when the name "christianity" first came into existence?

Please, what is your aim in the second and third paragraph? It is just baseless. You can expound on it!

The term Christian and Christianity was first used in the book of Act and it was originally coined by Paul and one other apostle.

You ain't reading the Bible at all... Do you?

You have to start reading theological books and not just the Bible. Theologians even claim that the Pentateuch wasn't written by Moses. Read wider my brother.

Sigh.... This is so pathetic.

The African mind is a pure regret.

KingEbukasBlog:
Very shallow questions

Due to your shallow mind and shallow eye you used to view the questions in a shallow perspectives.

Edek27:
See as u fall ma hand so u r comparing d Israelite(nt christians) to muslims
Let me ask u dis question wen did dey start referrin to children of God as christians is it old or new testament,before or after d birth nd death of Christ. Can u ansa me?


Nd how is God nt up to d "standard"
It seems to me dat while u r quite a rational man u were sadly fed with religious christianity wen u were young.
Infact I tink all atheists were unfortunately badly educated by fake christians

The term Christian and Christianity was originally coined by apostle Paul during the era of Jesus reign.

Christ was the major product of the old testament who also came from the tribe of Israel. God said in the Bible that Israel was his firstborn and that is also inclined to Jesus for been the firstborn of the creation of God.

You don't have to be ashame of your God characters in the Old testament by attempting to provide arguments stating imprecisely how the new (latest) testament doesn't correlate with the old testament.

Without the children of Israel in the Bible, the emergence of christ would never have been made possible.

You are even ignorant of the Bible.

I capitalize your shame....

S H A M E O N Y O U.

OtemWonyahweh:
Actually, ALMIGHTY GOD created some sets of beings. They are the gods, namely Yahweh(god of destruction and fear), Atum(god of truth and civilization, aka Eartum), Odin, Vishnu, Allah(aka Lucifer), etc.
All these gods, except Atum and few others like Chimides, Euchlydes, etc created specific beliefs and ministered their beliefs to some humans created later. But ATUM, THE god of science is right here now revealing the truth.

The truth is universal and not localised(unlike what we have in the book of Yahweh and Allah). The truth is scientific and not religious.

Hell FIRE is the imagination of Yahweh and Allah and few other gods. The brain is the life of spirituality. He who used his entire life serving a god will be subjected to the afterlife as given by that same god.

HOWEVER, THE ALMIGHTY GOD, FATHER OF THE UNIVERSE MADE A PLACE OF CORRECTION TO ALL ERRORS AFTER DEATH AND THAT IS THE VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH. THERE WE GET PERFECT TRUTH.

however, already the truth is here to cast shadows of the beliefs of the followers of yahweh.

I AM OTEM, SENT TO REVEAL THE TRUTH IN ALL HIDDEN SCROLLS AND LOST SCROLLS FROM THE TIME GOD ALMIGHTY CREATED THE UNIVERSE WITH A BIG BANG TILL THE PRESENT MOMENT AND EVEN TO THE TIMES IN THE FUTURE.

In fact, I learn more about the gods formation.

Meaning that if we are able to meet one on one with Yahweh and Allah, they too will be referring us to another super God.

It's indeed the god delusion.

Dejideji1:
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Propaganda

The fear of death is a natural phenomenon and it applies to all living things. Whether you are religious or not does not matter. When you come face to face with death, the fear will come from within. its a natural response (probably due to the pain and discomfort associated with the transition and the body is wired/conditioned to always avoid anything that will cause pain or injury,)

So correct yourself, Christianity does NOT plant the fear of death in us.
Therefore your claim of losing fear in death because you embraced Atheism is a blatant lie.

Christianity offers hope of an afterlife no matter how vague it may seem to you, but as an atheist, you are hopeless and you are not even 100% sure that nothing lies ahead. you base your conclusion on a 2nd person observation of the cessation of life.

What if after death you find out that heaven and hell are real, how will you sort yourself out?

We can't go for a religion whose certainty will be verified only after this life is over.

We are hopeless because we are not ready to subscribe to fairy tales while creating imaginary friends plus an imaginary enemy alongside with an imaginary paradise.

Its a privilege for the universe to have simulated me into life and existence while I give proper credits to whom/what credit belongs to.

Christianity doesn't create the fear of death but the fear of hell with the boresome of heaven.

What if heaven is another form of hell

Right has been defined as the ethical principles of freedom or entitlement is not a natural agent but an artificial one.

Right was artificially made by man due to their views on life and the meaning they gave to it. Animals will start having right only when they too start creating it artificially or by simply been entitled to one by human extension.

Right to me is unnatural and man-made.

The writeup is great but the intent is baseless.

Our outspokenness is necessarily not to vocally and intellectually fight and intimidate religious folks here on nairaland but to rescue this generation from what religion has done to people in ancient times (abject suffering). We are only trying to create a sane environment as it is not religion that we are actually against but literally any delusion that is disguised and camouflaged as been rational and sane. We must be the cure to this ignorance.

Whether atheism or agnosticism, the first independence from religion (delusion) is to be irreligious, and many scientists and sane personalities are victims.

Religion and the God ideology emerged as a cultural belief of different race and culture. Wars, killings and competitions are the major strength of these religions.
The Biblical stories are adventurous as they are prone to superstitions and mythical tales.
The Bible was written in the same way that other religious books were written. All I can see are attempts and they are really not true. Let all be discarded and not some because all religion share the same/a common bases.
Its either the god figure is imaginary or an object here on earth is used to represent one. The isalm of today are far more better, loyal and peaceful than the Christianity of the old testament but the Christians won't see all this. All I can see in the new Christianity are actually custodians rebranding and reorganizing the principles, standards and religious ethics of their primitive books. There are too many inaccuracies in the Bible and likewise other religious books.

Everything in life is chronologically divided and it not beneficial to live an ancient but primitive life in a modern world where information is within your reach.

It's true that science itself maintain the agnostic stance while it is also unscientific for a scientist to be either theistic (religious) or atheistic.

It is the duty of everyone who belief and claim that angels, ghosts, spirits and god(s) exist to as well provide an hypothesis (apparently an evidence) to justify his/her claim but it is also not the duty and the responsibility of science to discredit such claims and beliefs.

This to me is the hidden limitation that science itself has. Richard Dawkins was able to figure out that by creating an institute where scientific research project and achievements won't be restricted by religious beliefs.

Religion is very good as it is the earliest and greatest invention of man in ancient times. As man primitive status began to evolve, some men began to invent other means to fully relate with knowledge and the universe.
They took up the responsibility of knowing the wonders of the universe and later realized that it was with their primitiveness that the complexity of the universe was magnified.

In other to be scientific, there may be an intelligent designer for the universe but the god(s) of any religion ain't meet the standard.

As good science scholars, the god ideology is alien to us.

Let's search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI).

power900:
nice, although it frightens me knowing that one day my great grand kids will also look back to this age and shake their heads too......maybe then we have people building homes in clouds I guess

There would have been artificial world by then.

It is a sacrifice to be a scientist but a priviledge to contribute to it.

How I wish I can re-live within the next 10-20 centuries...

4everGod:
Goodnight to you as well. I hope you sleep well in your house on the moon.

I have no passion for that. I will rather be interested in living on Mars and leave you people here on earth in isolation.

When we leave earth for you in order to dominate Mars, Jesus will come and rapture will take place cuz we ain't taking you along.

winner01:
Still atheist garbage.
Little wonder Isaac Newton thought atheism was senseless.

It is unscientific to be theistic (religious) as well as been atheistic. In order to be scientific towards knowledge and to maintain a vast intellectual stance, the agnostic approach is highly recommended.

Newton was ignorant of that fact and needed to be corrected.

4everGod:
I know you think you made a whole lot of sense with what you wrote but sadly...you did not as all you said is wrong..

You spoke from a place of zero knowledge which is why you almost sounded childish with your comment.

Is there a school of Prophecy? With what parameters or equipment do they train their minds to make declarations into the future regarding private and personal things that eventually do happen to the letter?

One of such people who is a Pastor told me that I would get married to a lightskinned lady and she would come from outside Lagos and even told me the name of this lady.....but he mentioned her native name but he said that when I meet her I would know.

4 yrs later the woman who became My wife came from Portharcourt for a winners program and her prayer point was that God should direct her husband to her and that she was ready.

The first day I met her...I did not even see her but heard her voice and I was hooked and practically moved mountains to get the owner of that voice as all she did was greet me and my friends and walk past and I was busy with something on my lap so never looked up when responding.

I met her and proposed to her 3 months later and only knew her native name on the day of traditional marriage as she has never used or mentioned that name and I never bothered to ask. But her father is the one who loves calling her by her native name and when he mentioned her name alas it was the same name the Pastor declared to me 4 yrs before.

Not everything has a viable and accurate explanation. I have experienced same thing this Pastor experienced so I know what I am talking about.

Your type of problem is part of the primitive problem that I am talking about.

If another prophet sees you after marrying your wife, he will tell you to pray against barrenness.

It's not that the prophecy really works but you are just the one struggling to create an avenue to validate it.

If a prophet says that someone among your friend will request a cloth from you, you will always deviate and derail your conversations with your friends until you successfully and indirectly persuade someone among them to accentuate on cloth issues while thinking in your heart that the prophecy has been fulfilled.

Their is always a way you can train your mind to see people's problems. This is what those folks are good at and that is why they are called professionals in the mythical field.

Though its not that prophecy is 100% real but just a regular prediction and the religious use of probabilistic approach to estimate futurist events.

ifenes:
Christianity is a wheelchair for the hopeless,weak,unintelligent and gullible. If you have much to do and less time,religion won't cross your mind,not to talk of defending an unknown deity. I may sound a bit harsh,but I had to say it

Respect Bro!

Christianity is not efficient in terms of allocation of time resources. I see no reason why faith should be directed towards circumstances that doesn't correlate with nature and reality.

The God standard in the Bible is very primitive and ain't fit enough to be tagged an intelligent designer unless it only takes foolishness and primitiveness to become one.

The God of any religion didn't meet the standard of an intelligent designer.

OLAADEGBU:
But the gates of hell cannot prevail against the Christian Church, they can only try.

You righteous fellow are the real church according to matt 16:18

But your God said something in the book of Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you [the priestly nation] have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you that you shall be no priest to Me; seeing you have forgotten the law of your God, I will also forget your children.

My question is tha:

- Who are his people?
Ans: The Christians

- Who are the people destroyed?
Ans: The Christians

- Who are the people without knowledge?
Ans: The Christians


That is why I can never be a Christian again.

The Christian's righteousness is immoral to me and the way they pressurized giving is a fraud.

Giving don't necessarily have to be a commandment but rather a natural phenomena and instruction.

Everything you have was actually given to you and everything you will ever have will likewise be given to you.

It doesn't matter if it is acquired through a legal tender or free of charge.
What matter most is that it actually given to you.

Offering has to be abolished cuz the basis for doing it is just too ridiculous. How will I be tricked to give to God because of his abundant blessings in my life when am actually the one struggling and responsible for the success that I have.

I can dash your God money but cannot offer it to him/it.

The reason to give offering still remain questionable.

Rankine:
i av seen smone who prophecied dat after a specific number of days an event z goin to apen nd it was exactly so.....i av seen smone also who meetin smone d first time tells im almst evrytin abt im frm all his names, phone number, account number plus d bank, haus location, school attended in d past, place u visited last etc..and de are all christains.....atheist aw was dt possible

That only happens in uncivilized countries cuz in developed countries, people ain't possessed with primitive problems.

It all depends on how you train your mind to give regular predictions which is religiously known as prophecy. This are men that have religiously sharpened their natural instincts with an organized way of making discretion. They meditate on people's personality, temperament, predicament and intimidate them by fixing in a particular problem in their lives, knowing that an average Nigerian grew up with the problem mentality.
Prophecy is all about using mystical knowledge to forecast and estimate future events and not necessarily backup with any spiritual body.

But I think that religion is another way of studying and observing nature as well as been inspired with some hidden primitive problems of human being without necessarily providing solutions to those problems discovered.

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