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I don't support this but anyway, to have your own church in Nigeria is very easy. Infact, you can even invent your own religion and become the pioneer of your own invention.

Follow the below steps and come back with a testimony.

Step 1. Go to them in the name of their God and camouflage as one of the apostles.

Step 2. Narrate to them the fictitious story of your calling by tracking some predictions there too. This is because the Christians believe in fictions and predictions.

Step 3. Go for their emotions and not their brain cuz with that, you will successfully enslave their mind. And believe me, they will believe everything you say.

Step 4. Tell them that you are to give to them the word of faith. To achieve this, you will have to have a vast knowledge of the Scripture, speaks it with passion and demonstrate it with your emotions.
Oyedepo is very sharp in this step.

Step 5. Demonstrate the supernatural presence of the holy spirit by performing miracles. This is not difficult, infact very easy. Just make sure that you've successfully planted the seed of ignorance and delusion in their mind and just lay your hand upon their forehead. Believe me, they will fall. Why will they fall? Ah ah... How will people that have been expecting to be touched and immediately fall won't fall?? Falling is their expectation so they will have to satisfy their wants.
You will also gave to learn some magical trick backup with full courage to achieve this. Chris is a very good example.

Step 6. Monetize the over procedure by just telling them to pay their tithes and offerings by referencing Malachi 3:8 for them. Don't stop there if you really want to ride private jet. Convince them to always give and to sow seed into the life of God ordained ministers. As if that is not enough, proceed by telling them to make sacrifice by instructing them to pick out a piece of paper and write down the vow.

Also motivate them that they should do God service first that they will be mightily blessed and eternally rewarded.
Tell them that God will open the windows of heaven on their behalf "not knowing that the window is intentionally opened to make you rich".

Above all, crown it up by telling them that there is a heaven that awaits them where there won't be weeping and suffering. They will be all happy and will started shouting hallelujah without control. And also make sure that you can manipulate the Scripture very well.

My brother, you are rich because establishing church is the fastest and most profitable business in the country.

I wish you good luck.

4everGod:
Are you more intellectually robust than he is? Did you even bother watching the second video on the thread from him?

You should make effort to do so because he was just like you...an Atheist

Not just any atheist...he was an atheist from 5 yrs old.

5 years? So who he is now? It is time people stop working under the Christian title cuz we are all atheist depending on what we choose not to believe in.

Hmm....

Africans!!! The only setback continent that the world have.

We keep playing Christianity as if it was created by us while looking at the white folks that brought it as the unbelievers. The Isrealites are now a counterfeit while Africans are now the spiritual Isrealites.

We've been using the religious approach to solve our problems yet nothing works out. Why not using another approach instead of making the same mistake by invoking the religious concept.

In some few years ago, Sango was the god of thunder but now it is no longer sango but Yahweh.

Imagine, thunder having a god??

You may be right but I think Jesus is a religious genius in his time. In his own century, religion is the greatest institution in the world and an expert in the field are renounced genius.

That is why Jesus, "knowing that he is a human being" claims to he "the way" and the deluded mind ready for a wishful kingdom accepted it.

I think that the man is educated enough cuz even in our own generations, millions of educated people are following him.

This is great. Am sure he will play the game with sanity and not mentally colonized like our Muslim and Christian brothers in Nigeria.

There is a difference between belonging to a certain religion and ruling your life from within.

Religion can be interesting sometimes especially in overseas.

Am happy for his decision though at least there is nothing bad in been a Christian once you are not mentally brainwashed like our fellow brothers that says wedding ring is a sin and a victim can miss heaven.

I love the man and other Christian fellows like Winners01 and KingEbukasblog.

May your wish reward you in your own name.

Amen!

KingEbukaNaija:
Lol . There have been atheists since the bible days . The bible also said adversities , persecutions , trials can test your faith in God . It has very little to do with having a healthy discussion with an atheist . Christians always win the arguments . That explains why you avoid winner01 's thread like a plague - you don't want to face an ignominious defeat . I understand bro

Hmm.... You are right.

Johnny! Pls Just don't give them the attention.

honourhim:
You are just deceiving yourself. Human can talk while the non living things cant talk. Human can move from one place to the other on their own while the non living things cant move on their own. Human can breath while the non living things cannot breathe. Human have emotions while non living things dont have. There are a whole lot of differences between both but your foolish mind will not want to see it. Continue in your delusion.

You are indeed ignorant of science.

Let me break it down for you.

Non-living things are like pictures while living things are videos.

Now what is Non-livings and what is living things based on the above illustration?

Pictures are inanimate while videos are simply but a moving picture(s).

The day we human "the animated pictures" stop been animate is the day we go back to our real source "the inanimate picture".

That is the origin of every thing that have life.

If not for science and the concrete fact that you have, if you sight a sperm for the first time in your life without been told, you will confidently call it a non-living entity whereas, it carries life.

You can't tell me where you are before you came into existence but you confidently narrate to the world a paradise that awaits you because of the beauty of life and existence. You did not want to stop living and as a result, you created an ideology that seems to favour your wish.

Let me finish living this one life first, if there is another then I will definitely learn how to live it.

And even if there is hell, I will work together with other great scientists to still showcase our problem solving skills. At least that is what we are living for.

A deluded man lives for a fictitious paradise but a real man lives for a triune attributes. That is, their personalities, their dreams and for humanity.

These are the three things a reasonable person should be living his life for and not with the fear of death and unknown choose superstitions over certainties.

promise10:
I can't just imagine how foolish you would always sound on nairaland. Imagine the nonsense you wrot up there!

So, you sense never told you that if an self-made eternal being is created then he is not eternal.

God NEVER CAME into existence! He is ETERNAL! Try to learn!

When arguments are getting out of hand the Christians on nairaland deviate by polluting the platform with abusive words. Well, am not surprise since your religion had captured your brain and leaving you to your own delusion.

I know the meaning of eternal and the universe has clearly demonstrated this to humanity by not leaving us without evidence "whether of truth or of certainty" and has also expressed this to humanity by making us to understand that we are part of the universe but 'just an homo sapient though'.

Like I used to say, I believe in the existence of a higher being (aliens), a superior Cosmo (the multiverse) and in other greater things that are subject to empirical and testable observations and scientific explanations and predictions.

If your God is eternal then let's wait till he fully gets into human explanations and not devine narrations where it is fictitiously documented.

If your God is self-created then he actually evolved and of which theory you always proved wrong. The universe is eternal and sempiternal while the God's ideology is ephemeral.

honourhim:
What you said could be likened to this-

"imagine! Human; a living being, created non living things, sounds some how"

Sigh!!!

But both are composed of tangible components that are real, physical, can be seen, ken and are kin to evidence and reality. They are not as abstract, intangible and unkenned as the Biblical myths in which God is the figure.

Aaronsrod:
When one has been given instruction and penalty it is wise to obey. Hellfire awaits all who doubt God. Be warned!

It baffles me how the Christians have never seen a single verse erroneous in the Bible.

See what you just put down...... You must follow it even if it is not sane.

I love a social scientist (sociologist to be precise) that once said to me and my colleagues some years back that Jesus said that if someone slap you that you should turn to him the other chick.
He said, that was OK then but in a civilized society, you don't turn your other chick, you report.

The enemy called ignorance is devilish than the devil.

analice107:
Where do you suppose he was? In the realm of the natural? This is the realm of the natural, the realm o

time. He lives outside of this realm, he lives outside of time.
It's like an architect sitting down to draw a house plan, and goes ahead to build the house, then you come to ask, where was that man before he drew the plan and build the house? Does it make sense to you?

I love the question just that the popular Christians on nairaland are coming to provide an informative answer.

God - The uncreated creator.

God - The beginning and the end.

God - The first and the last.

God - A fragment of idea in the Christians mind.

Imagine! Immortality created mortality. Just sounded some how.

rexben:
Pastors are not ordained by God. They were and are ordained by Paul Eph 4:11

Misconception! Paul is only a medium through which God ordained them.

If they are not God ordained minister then why are they called God anointed vessel?

Infact, that particular verse was referencing to Jesus.

analice107:
SEX IS NOT A SIN, IT'S FORNICATION THAT IT'S A SIN.
It may interest us to know that God created a man and a woman to have sex, that's the only way they could procreate. Yahweh said to Adam,

Good News Translation Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and said, “Have many children, so that your descendants will live all over the earth and bring it under their control. I am putting you in charge of the fish, the birds, and all the wild animals.

How were they to have ma y children without mating?

God put sexual urges in us to enable us feel something for each other, get pulled together in other to mate.
Sex under the auspices of marriage is not a sin. NO.
Songs of Solomon, and especially the verse quoted above, makes us squeamish because we have known sex outside of marriage, and we know it's wrong, hence ; the squeamish.

Sex in marriage is not wrong. Solomon wrote what he wrote to his spouse, and there's nothing wrong with it.
Pls let's stop being religious and start being spiritual.
Jesus is called the Bridegroom, the Church is called the Bride. And our fellowship together is called a relationship/Intercourse.
Do you wonder why must times, the Bible uses the marriage between a man and a woman to explain the relationship between the church and Christ?
The church and Christ are in a relationship and we, the Christians are their offspring.

At bolded.....

Did you know the meaning of concubine at all? At least if you don't then you should have check your dictionary instead of defending trash here. At least, there is nothing wrong in doing that.

So having sex with 700 concubines is now legal and no more a sin

Irrationality display as been rational with high degree of emotional display.
Just stop defending trash cus even King David is also guilty of such.

Stop living an ancient life in the 21st century.

Teempakguy:
I also don't get the disdain they have for high school students. Having read wide about genius characters, I have come to the conclusion that age and formal level of education are just arbitrary constructs that say nothing of the mental capacity of human beings.

In fact, I wish I had become an atheist when I was in high school. I would have been able to use this epic line; you should be ashamed that a high school student can keep up with you in argument. There are only two possibilities; they're very smart and you should probably listen to them, or you're retarded and you should probably listen to them

I love the write up bro, I just think that they will rethink cuz there are many people in this platform that are far more certified than them yet they didn't boast.

analice107:
It's being read in mind. There's nothing wrong with it.

Have been reading the Bible randomly for some couples of months by approaching it scientifically (I calculated the required number of days to finish reading it, I read 4-5 chapters of the old testament and finished the new testament in 2-3 weeks) but when I got to the Songs of Solomon, the passion changed on sighting things like "Your boobs is like the eye of an apple" and so on.

Even Oyedepo once said that how can someone have 700 concubines and 300 wives and still expect his sanity to retain. After all that he now began to say "vanity upon vanity, all is vanity" probably in ecclesiastics.

That chapter is the romance section of the Bible because the Bible is a multifaceted story book.

The term "Christianity is not a religion" is a jargon used by modern day believers to isolate themselves from other religions by setting an edge.

Like I use to say, Christianity is all about emotional display without caring about the truth that resides in the brain.

Christianity has always been a religion but in most cases 'nameless' and seems to favour the Jews only but in the modern era, the well learned professor Paul (my namesake) coined the term "Christianity" to favour the entire race that seems to practice the religion.

I reason your take but the pastors are trying cuz I don't expect them to do more than that.
Trying to key into the word of a pastor is not equivalent to serving them. They are God ordained minister but one should just be careful by intelligently matching on their steps.

lordnicklaus:
Blogger would be good as it is not time consuming. I would select a theme and customize it to look very much like a science blog. There is even another blogging platform called MyWapBlog which can be customized using mobile phones and it also have its desktop view.

I think that you should make use of blogger. But did you have a template cuz customizing blogger embedded themes may be time consuming and not professional unless you will design it from scratch.

By the way, the information to be passed is our main priority with simple but a quality design and content layout interface.

KingEtienneSky:
So.......? High school students... Ehnehn? You seem to be implying that High School students are intellectually inferior, and that's VERY stupid. There're high school students that are infinitely more intelligent, more enlightened, and well-informed than YOU can ever hope to be.

By the way, I just left high school, and will like to see in what way YOU are intellectually superior to ME. You can also try out Teempakguy if really you want to embarass yourself. It's STUPID to underestimate the intellect of high school students.

My brother just leave them.
I don't even know the highest level of education these people acquired. Infact, most high school students didn't know the value of nairaland not to talk of discussions based on religious view.

Are these people a prof? Because the way they position themselves and belittle others is really getting out of hand.

And beside, what has the level of education acquired has to do with knowledge and been articulate?

In the US, successful people believe in autodidactism and used the self learning approach to acquire knowledge beyond the scope of academic disciplines by crossing boundaries (things like interdisciplinarity, transdisciplinarity, crossdisciplinarity and multidisciplinarity). I am personally not an educationist based on the local way of acquiring knowledge in an intellectual abode like tertiary institutions but I love every place that knowledge can be acquired by the measure of individual personality and learning pattern.

Education simply means to educe and to draw out from within. A man of education may necessarily not be a man with generalized knowledge but a man with vast specialized knowledge that will be uniquely and systematically worked upon to solve world problems.
Infact, in some fields like computer science if you cannot learn on your own then you can never be a professional.
The field, adopting the fundamental concept of formal system critically rely on autodidactism.

Please let these two guys go back to Google and do more research cuz their arguments are so much retarded and baseless.

Well for your information, I am a homo fabo.

KingEbukaNaija:
See eh , If you've noticed I am not usually active because these arguments are now banal and vapid . So don't expect me to continue this argument . Pay attention to the emboldened texts and take correction abeg .
God's judgement decides that .
What's the point of this question since you claim to understand Deism .
There are theistic evolutionists . Or religious people who are evolutionists . There is no proof for macro-evolution . A deist could most likely subscribe to progressive creationism though there are certainly Deists who are evolutionists .
This is incongruous with the definition
Every deist has his own concept of the creator . Most of these concepts are influenced by religion . "Anthropomorphic" is the appropriate term .
A deist's version of eternal life could be reincarnation .
If He wants to . Its very advisable to
Congrats on your graduation from secondary school . What were your college choices ?

What have education has to do with this?? The popular Bill Gate that you are even fighting for is just a college dropout.
I don't respect educationists, I respect an innovative mind.

Just try to be less emotional and stop abusing people when arguing. That is the only character that I dislike about you and in real life, am suspecting pride and arrogance.

You confidently speak trash and believe that you are now a genius just with the little information that you are able to get online.

Am just trying to advice you nothing more.

lordnicklaus:
Now this is a good encouragement to johnydon22. I would also have a part to play. I could design the blog to look "sciencey" so one could get a feeling of that raw science.

Will you be making use of WordPress or a pure blogging platform like blogger?

Well if you can make the design, am sure that he will be very much happy.

johnydon22:
The ones bearing my name would rather bear an egoistic tilt... Science Lounge would be good

Then go ahead bro, it's high time you have your own blog or a website that will serve as an information repository. You are a great article writer and you can even make a living with it.

If you really want to help humanity then explore your knowledge on the web by creating your own blog and am very sure many people will volunteer to design it free for you. I would have even volunteer but I have an issue with my laptop.
Just choose a niche and write creatively as usual. Am very sure that with a good search engine optimization and your publicity on Nairaland, you will have a huge traffic.
You can even mimic Wikipedia by creating a pdf version for every of your post.

Bro! You've created opportunities to be known but try to create more to be more known to your world.

By venturing into it, you will be more respected.

Am also working on a web project that will consist of all the fields of knowledge and academic disciplines called the Autodidacts dream) . It will host books, videos, pictures, social interactions, and will also serve as a hub for inventions called "the black science" or "the black institute". What did you think about this??

We need intellectual resources in Africa and a community that will promote real talents, inventions and the genius gene.

Am sorry for deviating a little bit.

Have you seen the reasons why you have to do this??

Go for it bro.

Imagine

promise10:
Why sound so frustrated??
Chai!

All I can see in your unintelligent post up there is no more than "FRUSTRATION".

For me, I am sooooo sure, even with my last blood that God exist!!!

My belief in him is something beyond a reasonable doubt. And don't ask me any foolish questions about that, I can only answer reasonable ones.

@bolded, I love it when you publicly make it clear that you have no idea of what this your god is, who he is, where he came from, how he created the universe, his characteristics, his attributes and most especially how he came into being. But yet you implicitly believe in him even though you will never see him in your life.

It pains me seeing theists confidently speaking lies as truth and quoting superstitions as certainties.

I believe in the existence of a higher being (at least aliens) but will that ever motivate me to say they created the universe? Definitely not.
We are all an object and it is the universe that simulated us into being and reality.
The primitive men sighted these aliens some years back seeing that they looks more superior, thought that they are the one administrating the universe.

It is only in the Bible that the angels of God (an immortal body and son's of Elohim) legally married the children of Adam. I have a picture that I will show you but not now.

If you're been born into a Muslim family am very sure by now that you will either be for ISIS or be reading your Quran and praying to Allah. Let's try and take things easy cuz religion is nothing but a man's invention.

Ever since you've been born, how many supernatural intervention can you state that happened? I don't even care if it helps mankind or not. We are the one struggling to make these religion survive decades but am very sure that it won't survive the next few centuries.

Ranchhoddas:
So it's true that you have left the fold?

You are getting it all wrong. It's true that I am bold enough to walt out of delusion and the desire to have gods.
But I don't take things personal in real life. I don't even have the strength to discuss on religious issues.
It may not be easy because we Africans are emotionally weak but bro, you just need the boldness.

Eddlad:
"Taking things personal","let's us try to handle issues here in a lenient way" are these statements referred to me?

I was a bit scared. Well am sorry for that.

winner01:
By blaming their Creator, you have admitted to the existence of a Creator.

You cant blame someone that does not exist you know.'

I stated it clearly that as your superstition claims.
What is my business with the myths.

winner01:
The delusion comes with the full package. Someone proclaims atheism and the next thing you hear is: "i love science". Some of them are still high school students or lazy wannabe's. hcpaul has probably never attended a science class but feels the need to validate his stand and make himself look reasonable.

I can't believe that you can be taking things too personal like this. Why the abuse? Is that how you are taught? Is that how Christians behave? Well, your kind are usually not the holy type.

When am trolling you will know cuz I usually troll to the core. I am now getting you folks but please let's try to handle things lightly here cuz in reality you don't know my worth and stance in knowledge.
I am innovative in my own field.

Am yet to graduate from high school or college? ? Well that is your own superstition though.

When you have nothing else to say then keep quiet instead of abusing others just to win an argument for your God. That is against the morality that I practice and the principles guiding my life. Your type of holiness is just wow!

But mind you, you can abuse me, curse me, pray against me, think evil of me but I will always show love to you guys by speaking senses into your brain that there is nothing like a God. It is your type that makea Africa the only set back that the world have. You aren't worshippers of Yahweh in some years back but now you've updated the god type and decided to choose Yahweh. Very soon now you will drop Yahweh and coin another god. Even in Israel (the origin of your religion and god) 75% of them are unvelievers. Just go to Israel and they will try showing you Jesus family house.

Scientists are only trying to be a good Communist by trying to give religion a sense of belonging since they know that it is a familiar doctrine for a weak heart.
We use religion and the god ideology to substitute our unknown, imperfections and inabilities.
Am not claiming 100% that there may not be a designer for the universe but am very certain that it can not be god. It will instead be a more comprehensive Cosmic that is more intelligent than our universe and not the numerous god(s) that all races on earth coined to fit in their superstitions (that is where the idea and theory of multiverse came in).
Carefully studying the philosophy behind existence, I traced and discovered that existence was originated from a non-living entity (which i won't prove until you tell me the origin of your superstitious Creator).

We all have the unknown but how can some people just provide answers for this unknown assumptively by creating gods.
If I tell you some tricks behind the Bible predictions you will not want to read that novel again. I will do that but not know.
Have been winning some arguments between theists offline now and many of them are now seeing life the way it should really be seen.

We are planning an intellectual platform for autodidacts and sane people that will consists of everything about knowledge and academic fields. It's one of the project that am working on as a formal scientist.

We will not stop until we have fully impregnated sanity into that vacuum called brain.
And maybe that is the Creator of earth in the picture below.

Kudos to sanity!

Eddlad:
Indulge me if you want,
What have you soo greatly done with this knowledge from almighty google.

You are taking things personal.
The impact of Google to mankind cannot be denied but that of God is only a documented one.
Well, if you go for God gud for you but within your inner mind you know that Google count the most.

Let us try to handle issues here in a lenient way.

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Eddlad:
Go google!
Now tell me how this google helped or is helping you.

There are some things that are not just necessary. I don't expect Google to know my thought because many of them may not be sane. I just need it to give me informations about knowledge.

Between Google and your God, which one has supply intellectual information to mankind.

The Bible is 50 percent history, 30 percent story and 20 percent fiction. It is nothing but a multifaceted novel.

winner01:
Even when you stormed this section as a devout catholic, i remember telling you how devoid of common sense you were.

You are worse off as an atheist. Just keep your agonising foolishness to yourself, your replies are intellectually repressing and not worth the attention of any mordern human.

https://www.nairaland.com/2803804/bill-gate-inherit-whole-world

https://www.nairaland.com/2679030/science-dont-actually-exist-scientist
someone actually called you legitimately stup1d for opening the thread above, and he was right.

https://www.nairaland.com/2720654/athiest-study-pentateuch


https://www.nairaland.com/2729961/proved-leviathan-first-creature-disbelief

Those were some out of your many exhibitions of stupidity, please dont just mix foolishness with what you already got. And if you must, please dont affect other people.

All that was when I was mentally captured by your religion. I did all that in defending your fairytails.

Just prove the above.