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winner01:
It is now a scientific fact that the universe had a beginning. Time was also created in this beginning. And so it is rational to believe that something was in existence before this beginning, before time.

Scientist Gerard Shroeder was right: "Whatever was in existence before time began cannot fit into the human brain".

We cant even call it nothing. The human idea of nothing is actually something if we go into details.

My point exactly is: I do not think we posses the ability to probe the origin of our Creator, we haven't even probed ours successfully.
Whatever you know and will know about God or the universe is solely dependent on how your Creator created you and the abilities He put in you.

We cant outsmart a God who created us. And so "Who created God is not even a question". One thing is for sure, and that is nothing cannot create everything. A better question would be "How did God create the earth"?. This question is what science is all about.

Well, you are persuasive. But you intelligently left the question unanswered.

Ok! If the source of this anonymous Creator is hidden, then can we have an evidence or at least a proof that will validate his existence formation.

But please can I probe some cause for his unknown form of existence?

Wow! Just wow!

I love the idea of a Creator nad the level of rationalization behind it. The existence of a Super being is real but a question was left unanswered.

God created the Universe. Accepted.

But how did this supreme intelligent designer that you and I have never seen came into existence independent of time and space?

If you have no answer to that, then it is of absolute possibility that man also exist independent of any Creator. We shouldn't trust ancient writers with all integrity. What if they came up with the theory by overestimating the complexity of life and the universe due to there abject ignorance?
I know the power behind fiction and how natural events can be simulated in manuscript and other printable materials.
The most exciting thing about it is that the universe have a way to emulate everyone's belief system into a typical order of reality that we please him/her. The theory behind that is based on the 'flunctuation of nature' .
Religion do have her own positive side effect by the way.

I love the idea though just that the basis for this eccentric belief is questionable.

Hoseaovo:
Because you are trying to ask the last question first. You will just get it all mixed up if you dont ask first, HOW CAN I BE SAVED.

Ask the right question at the right time

Don't just live a life that will prevent you from thinking.

What is the evidence of your spirituality? Nothing! Lets stop deceiving ourselves and stop hiding your ignorance behind religion.

That is just my token.

Teempakguy:
WHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!



Dude . . . woah, man. I cannot believe this. . Are you sure you want to do this?

because all these "Atheist turned christian" Threads are kinda annoying. And I totally see you making one soon.

If I will ever make a post then not in this section.
May be in science section or other related sections.

Am not trolling neither will I post that am now a non - theist nor that am now back to Christianity.

Ebuka is just getting it all wrong bro. Most theologians don't believe in the Bible but yet, they are the brain behind the script.

Lilbrown007:
Should I say Bacteria Instead??

Ok, apart from the graphical illustration provided, can you please provide a better explanation to serve as an updated version of your claim?

Go and pray cuz I want to go and read the Bible.

2am still on Nairaland

I wasn't trained like that as a Christian.

I want to go and read my theological books.

Good night.

Venerable612:
I have just been thinking.

Is there a scientific reason or whats the cosmic importance of planets apart from the EARTH?

Why are they lifeless?
How did they even come to be?

Or should we turn to religion for these answers?

Turn to religion and you will be disappointed.

You better build on knowledge and be eternally appreciated by nature and the universe.

KingEbukaNaija:
When you say CAC , do you mean Catholic Church ? Because those ones are part of Satan's pet project .

You see....

Catholic are now sinners while Lord of Choosen is the real church.

Am speechless.

KingEbukaNaija:
Expose the Lord's Chosen's secret ? Go on . I'm willing to see the secret exposed !!!!

This is juicy !!!

No! I won't I have respect for moral personality like the man of God.
Not necessary since every church do have their own weekness.

But can you give me the shortest answer to this question?

Have you evet think about religion and the Bible?

How can you just believe without thinking??

Is it your choice??

Am not happy cuz I wanna know why Christianity keeps preventing our youths from thinking.

What realistic encounter have you had that seems to have some transformation power filled with??

I weep!

KingEbukaNaija:
Sadly , you are now among them . The prophecy is being fulfilled on your head .

1 Timothy 4 : 1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

God does not stop you from actualizing whatever you want . If you die the next minute , of what then is the benefit of this elusive pursuit of "mental sovereignty " . It will just end like that ! Think ! Use your head ! Or visit the Lord's Chosen for more information

You can't be so emotional like the CAC's will ever do. That quoted Scripture have been used by me several times to oppose people then so it is not a new tactics to me.

Let me briefly explain why the writer include such a weird verse.

The writers knowing that a single book lacking rational development cannot survive centuries. At one point or the other, people with high intellectual assent will reject such a book.

If I am one of the writer's of the Bible, I will never miss such an amazing part.

But you speek religion as fact and now see fact as fallacy.

We are all born into this and our act of defending religion has always been it's strength.

Am not curious because we lack evidence, am curious because we lack proof.

What proof did you have? Is speaking in tongues a work of man or a work of a spirit? Is only the CAC that do speak in pseudo-realistic tongues not until one of their pastors mistakenly revealed their tricks to me.

I was sober that day that I heard that ehn.

Well, I will not be tempted to post since my initial aim is just to be sane.

Is not about even if the whole thing us real, even if it is real some of us are not just interested.

The same way you think that am foolish because you are been programmed to do so is the related way am also thinking of how homo sapient creature like me will not think with his head but accept everything written in the Bible knowing within himself that many of those things don't really work.

So, you really want to preach fear in me right.

The pastor I loved most is TB Joshua and I devoted my time to watch Emmanuel TV, listen to his messages and other programs and have been really fascinated by his charitable act though. I Just love the man despite that am out of the game. That implies that I still give Christianity a sense of belonging since my mission is not to castigate them but why preaching the Lord Chosen to me??

ShoulD I expose you people's secret??

KingEbukasBlog:
Always brilliant

Adhering to their repugnant "I don't know " plea is derogatory to my God-given high level of intelligence .

You are getting it all wrong bro, accepting the existence of God is not an access code to paradise.

Believing that a Creator exist will not attract any special favor if the nature of sin is still present.

The probability of making heaven is extremely narrow and the requirements also looks shallow.

I don't think that you are a real Christian with the time been spent on Nairaland.
You are only been emotional at defending the flaws in your religion and many more.

Don't ever attempt living a life that you cannot live eternally.

Those scientists are Christian, so they are now automatically an heavenly candidate right?

Ok, I believe that God exist o.

Good to hear, I am now automatically heading to the heavens gate.

I laugh in three dimensional.

Purely not scientific. What is the basis of you claim and irregular assertion?? You firstly have to know how scientific theories are derived before any serious scientist can take you more serious here on this intellectual platform.

To know more about your claim, I will penetrate in via some philosophical interrogations.

1. What is virus?

2. How is virus derived??

3. Where do we find virus

4. Is virus the same thing as ignorance?

5. If No 4 is true then can human be a victim??

6. If No 5 is true then what can you do as an isolated scientist or as a team member to provide solution to the problem you discovered??

SCIENCE IS 1% ABOUT DISCOVERING PROBLEM AND 99% ABOUT SOLVING THOSE PROBLEMS DISCOVERED.

No one is known for the problem he discovered but only for the one he solves.

Just saying though.

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hahn:
Hcpaul, your account has been hacked!

Have definitely changed bro. I just thank and appreciate you for the good job you did on me.

Believe me am not trolling. This is my reason for been inactive on this particular section of nairaland.

KingEbukaNaija:
I never knew you had jokes this good .

If I will ever argue with you, then not this year.

My change is not to fight theist on Nairaland or to persuade them to atheism but to desperately fight insanity with abject sanity.

Knowledge is my focus cuz 99% reason why is changed is because of my dream and my personality.
Those are the two things am now living my life for.

More anointing on you bro

sonOfLucifer:
HCPaul, tell me you're trolling..

Bro am not trolling. This is just what sanity has done. I blame sanity.

I will reveal many secret later just that I want to work on my dream first, at least to make it stand since it has been derailed by religion propaganda.

I will post more later trust me. I just want to build rebuild totally my intellect, my mind, and all of my mental sphere.

Thanks to you too bro for doing the great job.

At least, Christians deserve a sense of belonging, just that it doesn't look sane to me any more and I doubt its reality with curiosity.

Everything about Christian and the entirety of religion is just the work and manipulation caused and invented by ancient primitive men who chose to substitute their ignorance and inabilities with an imaginary theory framed Bible.

The Bible is mere a manuscript of men (works of sane historical and fictional writers of old) rather than the message of any mythological being or diety.

I don't consider it as a bunch of lies since I know that men of old will at one point in their life want to satisfy their doubts, their unknown, and their inabilities with something less primitive and more superior.

They overestimated the complexity of the universe and chose to believe that it must have been the creative work of a higher or a superior being.

Am not opposing the fact that superior personalities do exist (at least aliens do) but what about some beings that we are superior to??

They coined a name for this superior being and framed it GOD (The triune personality) .

They did all that out of their own ignorance and eventually exhausted their lifetime in the pursuit of living in the realms of the supernatural. Loving an ever lasting life, they initiated the concept of Heaven and Hell.

Heaven for the Isrealites and hell for others.... I just don't get it.

Now, some men living in the generation of the sane still choose to follow the path of those primitive men and their organized precepts.

99% of Christians don't love God, Heaven, Supernatural and the likes but had to be enforced with the fear of Satan, hell, Darkness, Demon, Eternal damnation and the likes.

Is not thayt you really love to make heaven but you've been mentally and emotionally captured with the fear of hell, the judgement day and eternal damnation.

You really don't have passion for heaven, do you?

We are all atheist just that some smart folks among us are pretending.

If you were to live forever, what will you live for??

It is better to die for something that to live for nothing.

What is the essence of living forever when all you will live for is prayer (exempted), fasting (exempted), then what exactly? ?

Ok! You guys will all become a chorister and start singing a lifetime song with a single lyrics.

Hallelujah! Hallelujah!! Hallelujah!!!

OH! Sigh... Am out of the game.

It's now my time to fully relate with knowledge and become a companion of the wise, to implore, deploy and explore universal knowledge and to inventually become the pioneer of my own impacts and inventions.

We guys cannot just live forever with you guys cuz we may later rebel just like Satan did.

And mark my word, some of you guys will later rebel in the new heaven and the new earth when you are so bored and overwhelmed.

How will I spend eternity with folks that are deaply conceived with ignorance and insanity.

Even people that were alive during the ministry of Jesus didn't believe him, so how did you expect the computer age filled with scientific revolutions to give a damn at it??

Every religion is subject to fallibilism.

THE IGNORANCE OF RELIGION IS THE GREATEST IGNORANT TO EVER EXIST.

Those creative writers deserves to be accredited, to be titled as inventors for inventing the greatest ignorance to ever exist in the entirety of human race.

I love my life now for taken responsibility for the consequences of my actions and not putting the blame on some imaginary foes that never exist, knew me and not to talk of fighting me.

For your information, I didn't become a non - theist because I have any challenge which God failed to answer or whatsoever. My personality has long ago been contrary to such fallacious tales. I became an agnostic atheist because I love sanity and I choose to be sane by not encapsulating the religious concepts into my framework of scientific pursuit.

I did that in a legal way.

I only regretted my time used in defending the flaws in religion.

Jonnydon22, Ifeness, Kevor and other great atheist on Nairalands successfully did the job.

Kudos to sanity!!!

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johnydon22:
Its been a while brother, where have you been?

Longest time here too bro.

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I so much love this....

This is what Albert meant when saying that imagination is more important than knowledge.
Infact, these are imaginations that will definately becomes reality.

It is high time humanity fully explore the universe, multiverse and if there be any other verse.

How I wish Africans do not isolate themselves from the generation of the sane and stop hidding their ignorance behind religion, we will be able to create something like the "black science".
The day Africans started thinking clockwisely is the day that they will realize that the law of reason conflicts the fallacies in religious doctrines.

I have a strong hope for Africans.

Good Job bro!!!

K.. I will add you to a whatsapp group or may personally send you those cheats. 100mb is too small now...

This is indeed a great achievement. Based on the flunctuation of nature, I will someday exist in the planet called Mars.
But I think that 60% of work shoul be done by recruiting robots and other intelligent machine, though intellectual activities should be excluded.

I Love Science........
I Love Technology.........
I Love Engineering.............
I Love Nasa.................................
I Love Robots.....................
I Love Mars.....................
I Love Earth.............

Mathematics is a language, a language of science, engineering and technology. It is not the language of the universe but just an expression of scientific models.

winner01:
Then I get dazed at this kind of ideas. Ignorance? like seriously

Well, i respect your opinion but the above hasn't the slightest biblical backing.

"Come now, and let us reason together, saith the
LORD"

I'd be far from the faith if not for reasoning.

Reasoning about the precepts congested in the Bible?

To be honest, a single book cannot survive centuries.

And I read that the Bible is an emblem of truth while science reasonably and theoretically analyse the fall of truth and it's difference from certainty.

I recommend that aspect for you particularly under the philosophy of science, "Sceince and certainty."

The prediction that claim that no religion will get into the 23rd century is precise and accurate.

Vick4rill:
please am writing this to the young minds and teenagers who visit religion section. do not for any sake or wat ever u read here doubt the existance or believe in God... ask your self this questions if truely God does not exist why are atheist so eager to prove it at all cost? why wouldnt they leave the christains to wallow in their ignorance untill they realise that they were chasing after the winds. if you live ur life serving God and later died and realise that there was nting like God, hell or heaven have u lost in anyway? what then will happend when u are fully convinced that he does nt exist and after death u realised that he truly exist? i plead with u the young ones to stick with ur believe in God. atheist themselve ve nt make the world better with their use of logic and common sense.if they ve why are there still sufferings,pains sickness despite their breakthrough in science. even if it is nt god that created this world u will agree with me that this world did nt jst come on its own?

@bolded, you've lost in many ways....

Don't you understand the gravity of the ignorance you are vomiting out

We loose many things dear...

- We were scammed
- We were fooled and outsmarted
- But most especially, we are ignorant.

I got so many things to loose only if I later discover that the whole thing is just a game, a test of writing skills by the writer of the book called Bible.

You know that in game, the characters present may also be imagine that they are alive, active and really heading to a real life destination. But believe me my brother, the whole thing is fake, unreal and only a test of programming skills by programmers.

Did you want to live your life like the characters in those games

I can't be so desperate about an entity (God) that doesn't exist.

But to be factual, religion abolish the mental power for reasoning.
Ignorance is the best expression of the Christian faith.
The voice of faith keeps telling you "Be irrational and ...."
What if we were scam? What if science has adopted the concept of religion? Science will definitely not stand.

Am still a beliver but I realize that it only takes ignorance to remain a Christian. Am ready to do that.

Kinda skeptical.

Is like you want a write up on them

meetmonde:
please Hw can i use it, i av existing data and i got 2Gb

It can only be used on blackberry device and not android.

If you are using an mtk device, kindly tweak your imei to a blackberry imei and bet me, it will work.

Although, we are still working on the psiphon accessibility sha.

JuanDeDios:
Please help a brother out with this.

If it takes a guy 12 minutes to read 200 words of a book, how long will it take him to read the entire book which is 15,000 words?

Thank you.

Next time just reason like this...

If it takes 12 minutes to study 200 words of a whole textbook, then by using mathematical reasoning and induction or by applying a basic propositional logic, it will take X minutes to study the entire book which is contained of 15,000 words.

With the hypothesis that have given above, what are we then finding?

We all know that we are finding the unknown which is denoted with the variable "X".

12 mins -----------> 200 words
X mins -----------> 15,000 words

By cross-multiplying, we will derive the following equation.

12 × 15000 = 200X

X = 180,000 / 200

X = 900

X = 900mins//

And by progressive simplification, we all know that 60 minutes is corresponding to an hour

900mins / 60mins

And equals to 15

Therefore, the final answer is 15hrs.



Shalom.