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oluwaseyi0:
THE BIBLE SAID THAT THE SON OF MAN WILL BE BETRAYED
so who is the bible expecting to step up and do the dirty job an alien

Judas was just used and dump nothing more

he stepped up to do the dirty job, if he didn't there won't be christianity today
Jesus will have died a regular dead in his sleep like a nobody

can u help me with 1k?

efficiencie:
Useless knowledge is another form of ignorance. Ignorance is not just the absence of knowledge.

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Originalsly:
You.need to check yourself. So gou know what God will do and what he will never ever do? This is blasphemy.... you passing judgement on God.

Pot calling kettle black.

@ topic ... belief has no right nor wrong.... needs no logic nor explanations. However... I'm still waiting for an atheist to tell me how the first thing came into being .... whether it's the atom that exploded and started life and evolution .... or how planets were formed

4get big bang crap. there is no thing such as 'first thing that came into being' ,there is no universe,there is no 'all that exists'.

IMAliyu:
I don't necessarily not believe in a God.
I would say I think more highly of God should he/she/it/they exist.

First off everything we know about religion, or God and their will, that has ever been said or written has been by Men, and all of it has had the inconsistencies, flaws you would except of something created by flawed humans.
Something I would not expect of a Perfect all good being.
Except if God is just as flawed as humans, which is a different topic I guess.

Something all powerful, would have a much better way of conveying it's will with little ambiguity. However the presence of multiple different exclusive religions, with genuine believers and followers runs contrary to this.

Might I refer you to the questions that started my disbelief if you want to call it that.
https://www.nairaland.com/5942094/how-should-one-find-out

u said u dont not believe. u said should meaning if god exists maybe as he/she/it/they. then u said maybe disbelief. well,if /maybe shows u arent sure.

festacman:
In Nigeria, a sitting government uses public money to build a project and then boasts about it as its signature project as though it is a 'personal project'. So another government comes in and erases these signature projects to destroy the past government's source of pride and discredit it. It doesn't care how much of public money is used in building them. That's what is currently happening in Kano and it happened with TINAPA project, which was allowed to waste away with billions dollars already committed.

This means that in Nigeria, governance is still not about the using the PEOPLE's money to meet their needs but about the political interests of selfish politicians. And this persists because the PEOPLE gullibly take sides with politicians and get short-changed like fools.

which people taking sides? Not me and others that want the power.

preciousee17:
No beginning and no end?
But the patterns in the Earth show a beginning and an end for any and everything every single time.
Starting from humans, plants, non-living things, is there an exception?
And with the trend/direction the world is moving in now, I think scientifically, the end is near:

Rising population
Sinking Islands
Global Warming
Threats of Nuclear Weapons being unleashed (this one will end many arguments if it happened)
....
With all these stuff, doesn't it show that everything on Earth has begun at some point and will end at some point?

Again, I've seen the point of stupid questions too. You're on point there.

the truth is not only about earth. Earth is just a part of the truth.

seeking evidence of spiritual or god stuff can be boring. at a point, itz like u are asking stupid questions. should we be facing all these stress to prove anything? we dont even know who is confused,who is sure,etc. some atheists confess confusion by saying they dont know if there is or not. well,i think the truth or reality or existence has no beginning and it cant end. it has no totality. it continues in infinite ways/forms.

Life is deeper than NEVER give her money. i mean imagine her saying NEVER give him money. what is the essence of such competition? the truth is him+her keep humanity. both genders MUST survive or nobody does.

Standing is an offence sometimes. Walking,eating and drinking too. A message to those who dont claim to help even after ensuring u dont do anything in peace. Never expect anything in return 4 your sincere kindness. Expect nothing! Wealth and power are not automatically increased or derived by sincere and true kindness! do it if u just feel like doing it! Anything,such as pity or compassion, can move u to do it but expect nothing in return! As 4 bastards who think they helped me by threatening to kill me bcuz,in their crooked minds,they gave me nuclear weapons which i agreed to keep for them ,but later sold to their enemies and ran away with all the money, i need not say more. They are that worthless to me,their names are also useless to me. Let it be known we can all go gaga and burn everywhere! Those acting like i broke a nuclear arms deal know themselves! Both offline and online! We are into more than one entity's madness! The elements of truth are insane! Both life and death prove it! We acquire resources only by hook or crook! Every job is part of performance! Every law is also directed to the viewers! We can always end one another at whatever chance of lethal differences ! Damn!!!!!

Muh247:




I am not a religious person.. I am more spiritual and I read all Religious scripture of Abraham descendants

My brother only God is your true friend, God and only God...

Talk to God always

When you wake up, say a prayer, thank God, invoke and call God.. before eating call God, entering a building call God



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how do we confirm we are talking to god? I need a direct response,no analogy or figurative language. No quoting of books. What demonstration shows there is 'someone listening as god while i talk' ?

First,there is a limit to what u can learn or be aware of at a time. there are also things no one can predict. However,ignorance is not the worst thing. Knowledge can be useless. For example, u know certain people online, i mean u are used to seeing them online. Does it mean u will surely gain 4rm them? Rather,u may lose certain things to them. U know u take colorado and u know u like it though it can kill u. So, u take it and die,congrats in advance. U know how to make money but badluck means they keep attacking u 4rm all corners out of jealousy and they dont let u rest such that u keep spending money on fighting or settling them,so what is the use of the knowledge? Poor people arent safer,i know, but ur badluck makes u restless like them. U know ur family members but none of them can help u,what is the use of knowing them? Sometimes, a family member will be the one to kill u. Let us not argue 4 nothing. There are cases that are not worth knowing. There are also inevitable misfortunes just as there are inevitable fortunes. There is a limit to what u have or need to know at a time. There are also things impossible to know as an individual because of your limits,anyways. There are also times when u even need your environment to help u forget certain things.

CuriousStudent:
It is not a thing about rich versus poverty. It is a think about having sufficient versus poverty.

You think if most Male nlanders have a car,house,a well paying job,respect and repute in the society that they will be wasted as they are? The aforementioned are not limited to rich people but average and comfortable people

U HAVE CHANGED TOPIC. SUFFERING DOES NOT MEAN U ARE EVIL.

efficiencie:
Ignorance is the mother of all evil. Poverty is one of the children of ignorance. Wisdom is the principal thing. When Bitcoin was 1:1 with the dollar anyone who knew it would become highly valuable today would have bought 1000 Bitcoin then and become a millionaire today. Anyone in the 80s and 90s who knew that Lagos population will balloon would have bought several plots of land when it was just 50k in several locations. Now you can never find a plot of land going for anything less than 5m per plot in places like Akoka, Bariga, even Somolu. Ignorance is the ultimate enemy of mankind. Some fools used to say "what you do not know cannot kill you". What a very stupid statement. Ignorance is the pillow of all fools.

I DISAGREE. KNOWLEDGE CAN BE USELESS.

MrBrownJay1:
its obvious that you are suffering for MENTAL POVERTY.... in your world, money is your sole salvation/saviour on earth and in your own words:"you are nothing without money". its obvious people who think like you do have nothing of value in life, they think they are worthless and therefore their whole aim in life is to get some money in order to somehow become something/somebody. again, poverty is temporary, anyone can be poor today and tomorrow get a better job/better situation. sadly, people like you who see poverty as an incurable disease, are people who will be poor even if they have a billion dollars in the bank. Its called MENTAL POVERTY!
ok sir, good luck in whatever endeavour you choose in life.

can be permanent is not same as always permanent, some become rich,others die trying.

CuriousStudent:
Nairaland men are a clear evidence that poverty is the deadend and source of a evil.

I need not say more

the rich also do evil.

MrBrownJay1:
its obvious that you are suffering for MENTAL POVERTY.... in your world, money is your sole salvation/saviour on earth and in your own words:"you are nothing without money". its obvious people who think like you do have nothing of value in life, they think they are worthless and therefore their whole aim in life is to get some money in order to somehow become something/somebody. again, poverty is temporary, anyone can be poor today and tomorrow get a better job/better situation. sadly, people like you who see poverty as an incurable disease, are people who will be poor even if they have a billion dollars in the bank. Its called MENTAL POVERTY!
ok sir, good luck in whatever endeavour you choose in life.

no, it is not enough to be someone. i deserve to be rich.i also need to be rich,since i am not yet. wealth is about having necessities and that is only possible when ur material fortunes match or stay above the cost of living in ur area. i neva said poverty cant end. i just cant wait for anoda 25 years.

Johnweeked12:
The only thing worse than poverty is Poverty pro-max... Poverty get levels sir... When too much poverty hook you for neck, you go use torch find 50 naira for road for early paipai.

u know me b4? sapa na sapa , unless u want ur children to kidnap u, dont vex me. it is beta u shoot me, spits.

PARADIZEPRIEST:
Hopelessly.
If all hopes are lost is equal suicide

poor people commit suicide more often.

MrBrownJay1:
poverty solely means lack of money today, nothing else. it aint a disease and it certainly aint permanent!
but here is a simple question:WOULD YOU RATHER BE POOR TODAY AND HOPEFULLY CHANGE YOUR CONDITION IN THE NEXT 25YRS OR BEING LOCKED UP IN JAIL FOR THE NEXT 25YRS?!?!

i have evidence that lack of money can fetch deadly diseases,physical attacks,misunderstanding,hate,disrespect,torture,murder,etc. lack of money can be permanent cuz there is evidence of some dying poor. what sort of crap ,25 more years of poverty what sort of woman will be mad to the extent of joining me in the poverty i am facing for 25 years? is that what u call life? banging on the ground? who does that!!!!! sleeping on a sandy ground? nonsense!!! since she must earn or be getting a lot more money however possible and stay healthier however possible(i mean be far better than i am now), it means we cant have a successfully sexual relationship except i am taken out of poverty instantly through the relationship. neva means i will stop working tho. i prefer the best american prisons to 25 more years of what i am passing through, which u dont know. i cant imagine myself still like this for 25 more years, getting a poor girl or woman pregnant in maybe your house means i will have to abandon them,then suicide will be more likely and many other ways to die.

Larryndelaw:
Really?

where have ur male politicians taken u to? they will still use ur head and spend that money on her.

Dey play ,just dey play, u think there is a general formula,abi? If me and ur sista can get married,does it mean our way of talking will be like that of any other couple? just be careful and straightforward. every marriage has its own features. try ur ways 4 as long as u can. dont try to calculate what has no law guiding it. if marriage doesnt happen 4 u,try having a kid or two outside marriage or adopt.

10 naira is above human life in nigeria.

coputa:
Poverty means lack.Everyone lacks something in life,Do you mean lack of money.

the only thing everyone lacks is ability to enjoy forever on earth as a human being. However, i am talking about lack of necessities such as water 4 household use,nutritious food, human standard accomodation,clothing, footwears,medical consultation or/and care when needed,hair treatment or styling or shaving when needed,toiletries,household washing,cooking,eating and bathing tools,fuel,electricity,entertainment (it helps the mind tru the brain), tools 4 communication or/and transportation,sex at some stages(doctors are to explain),security,useful information and anything that brings or/and keeps MONEY enough to multiply these things.

FRANCISTOWN:
Mind, atheists do not only say there is no God. Atheists also say that we do not believe in the existence of any God.
The reason we can say boldly that there is no God is because there has not been any proof of any God's existence.


Dreams have never been a prove of the existence of God. Nostradamus was a man who made several predictions that came to pass without the help of any spirits or so.
I'd like you to understand that "Time is not linear" and again.

The dream, prophecy, clairvoyance and telepathy mysteries have long been demystified by Dr. Wess of Duke University in the 19s. So it has nothing to do with spirits.

Also, I'd like you to understand that. Whatever story or testimony you shared does not count for proof because, you would be considered to be lying until you can present irrefutable proofs that your sister really had that dream prior to your grand dad's unfortunate incident.

Plus, can your sister dream again about that will happen in the future? Let her make it go public and when it comes to pass, we'll then know that the current one is real, yet, it still doesn't count for an existence of a supernatural being.



Now get the point! The child could be hallucinating or not. I don't care, but where is that man? Why didn't that man prevent the earthquake?
Was the life of a single boy more important than the rest? Okay!

That man appears to me like a chef rather than a god.

i need ur financial assistance,please.

preciousee17:
Ha! I've seen your point and the little joke there
Mind you, you may not be an idiot (I don't even have the strength to call you those names)
But if you've truly agreed in your heart that there's no God, then the God describes you as (ignorant). Meaning you just don't know and I agree
Thanks for contributing tho

please,i beg u in the name of ur parents,can u help me with any amount of money,please?

preciousee17:
It's healthy to not know some things
It's healthy to not understand some things
It's healthy to refuse to believe some things

Here I'm not saying you MUST believe in God (although at the end of life here we'll all believe in Him)
I'm actually saying you MUST believe in something, you MUST search for Truth until you find it. It makes no sense to just assume that everything here is purely natural.

the truth is performance.

preciousee17:
Sorry I don't have any name to call you... 😂
Unless you call yourself an Atheist, then I can also call you the name and mind you, it isn't a hate name or something...

Unplanned burden? Sounds very specific.
We don't preach that death will change anything
It's just that after death comes judgement, there's no more room for correction.

Let me paraphrase what you said and try to make it sound a bit different.

Do you mean we were all created by nothing, out of nothing and we all spawned into this earth to do nothing, die and go back to nothing? But then the arrangements of everything (our body structures, plants too, our ecosystem) and all that is soo complex that even we (the most intelligent species) have not yet fully understood the most unintelligent species...

Did you do any science course in school?
Just asking...

i meant calling me an idiot 4 not believing in god anymore. well, existence itself is not meant 4 understanding ,it is not of a specific purpose since it has no creator(whether a person or not) .it just continues in infinite ways. that never means u have no creator. u are the product of movements. ur death only means more movements. go into the shrine at osun river and drop a note at 9.30am. say 4rm hell , hell says hi to the unpopular entities overthere,write such on a white paper,put in a black nylon ,back the shrine and walk unto the river and drop that nylon on the river.it is madness to the viewers but just another way to perform in the truth. the entities are not gods to me at least. they will not be described using adjectives meant 4 u. the government affirms that . i'm as being. owing to difficulty in survival ,i havent been able to afford more than o level. i doubt if i will be able to. i was in science whatever 4rm ss1 to 3. anyways, i have mosquitoes and other things to deal with here.

preciousee17:
I'll start by reaching out to Atheists, because you guys are missing out the most. How can you say there is no God/Spiritual Entity at all? But you have seen how nature is orchestrated to fall in line with itself, the endless cycles and behavioral patterns... That alone should tell you that Someone instituted these behaviors and protocols, but you all say it is just a COINCIDENCE

Let me make an example from young people (because young people speak plain truth more than us, the older ones). I'll make an example from myself, my immediate community and a young child many miles away from Nigeria

1. When we were younger, my family usually visited our paternal grandfather once in a while (as usual), but we weren't in constant connection with him and didn't know much about how he was faring.
One day my elder sister had a dream, in the dream my grandfather looked so lean and skeleton-like, and was sitting on the biggest sofa in his house. People wearing red outfits were calling on him to come join them
She told my mom and very quickly, we arranged an impromptu visit to my grandpa
Lo and behold when we arrived, he was sitting on the exact same sofa, looking like a skeleton exactly as my sister described. Very quickly also the man died.
Later we grew up to realize that the man was a member of an occult group (which explains the people in red outfits in that dream)
Dear atheists, are you saying this was a COINCIDENCE?
Let's move on

2. [I've decided to wait till I find a more publicized case]

3. This one is short. In the recent earthquake that happened in Turkey
A little child was found in the rubble 3 days after a building collapsed. When he was rescued, he was still strong and lively, moving around and not showing any signs of hunger.
He was asked if he had eaten and he replied 'yes', that a man in white cloth had been coming to give him food at regular intervals.
Okay atheists, the boy was definitely *hallucinating*, it's a COINCIDENCE

the patterns just exist, did any occultist tell u there is a reason 4 it? Let me invite budatuum . budatuum, are u not aware that u are not aware of being aware as they stay in their meetings? u arent and u wont until we are . 4 the words of the day are different 4rm those of the night. if there is a call,then there will also be a path. if i saw today yesterday,i can also see yesterday today.
the red is part of performance. there is a time to stand. there is also a time to sit,even a time to lie down. u ma speak whatever spoken, whoever hears. the recitations are 4 affirmation,the truth is 4 drama. to see is not amazing,to be blind is not an evidence of nothing.

FxMasterz:
Please try and research. Get informed about those things you do not understand. Do not draw hasty conclusions. It would be costly.

there are also things i cant understand such as why i was born. I have done research about god and i have found no reason to worship whatever or whoever in existence,however the realm ,no matter the case. I deserve to enjoy wealth too and i owe nobody an explanation 4 that.

It seems i dont have enough.

phorget:
You wont see their names now o but go to every office you'll find them heading the sensitive positions...

they dont always head such positions.

FxMasterz:
This reminds me of an incident.

In 2017, we were praying for a family of 3. The wife had a little mental challenge though she was normal to a high degree. The husband was a Muslim. Their only son was just 6 yrs old.

We never knew they had a younger boy who died as a baby.

We prayed for them, laying hands on them one by one. The boy was the last to be prayed for. After we were done, the boy started narrating the visions he saw as the prayers were going on. His vision was a narration of how his younger brother died. He was actually about 2yrs old when the incident happened. Yet, he began to tell how his mother was sitting down on a bench in their veranda in the village, holding the baby on her laps. He narrated how some people appeared from nowhere and were flogging the baby seriously with cane. How the mother became really confused and dejected seeing her healthy baby crying intermittently for no reason (the people flogging the baby were invisible). He narrated how the flogging continued until the baby died. Up till this time, his parents have never told him that he had a younger brother who died as a baby. The mother corroborated his words by saying truly, that the events that led to the death of the baby started from the time the baby began crying aloud while she was sitting with the baby on her laps at the veranda, one evening in the village. The boy went further to describe events happening within his immediate and extended family. He described people he had never heard of or met before. The father was stunned. He even understood the people the boy was describing within the family.

If you're an atheist, believe me sincerely you're gone. There are overwhelming evidences and experiences around the world contrary to your views. The spirit realm is real.

there are things i dont know or that i am yet understand,however those things arent of god. Just anoda thing,they are not worthy of worship.