European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 12:00pm On Nov 02, 2021 |
dostr4: I think kante's injury has been reoccurring , we should be looking at replacing him , on his day he is a world beater but id rather we cash in on him after the season.. True tho. Get Tielemans and Rice. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:07am On Nov 02, 2021 |
TLona1: 2006. K. But he won after pep left. When will pep win after leaving messi. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 4:56am On Nov 02, 2021 |
TLona1: Messi did it not as the main man. As a matter of fact, he was injury prone that year and didn't get to feature in most of the UCL matches.
I ask again, when will Klopp win the UCL without Salah? Messi was not the main man when pep won his two ucl with barca? Lol you funny. When will Salah win ucl without Klopp. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 6:13pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: What was leicesters position when Ranieiri took over You tell me |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:11pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: You always throw false statements everytime. Ancelotti was sacked for not winning the league and losing home and away in the CL Whats false statement after checking and seeing that he actually concluded the season with us. No club will sack a manager fire going trophyless after winning epl and FA cup in his first season except Chelsea under Roman. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 6:08pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 6:05pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: How is Mainz lower than Leicester? Both were coming from division 2 Klopp brought them to first division while Riniery inherited a mid table team. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:03pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Are you sure of the bold? Cos you dont seem to know your own club so well Ye she did conclude the season, I had to go check. But it doesn’t warrant sacking because normally he is not expected to win it every season. SAF wasn’t winning it every season either, he only won ucl twice in his 26 years Man U manager. Agree that Roman is impatient with not winning a trophy, attacking play or not. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 5:54pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Ancelotti did not win the league that was why Roman fired him plus he lost home and away in the CL to Man Utd Ancelotti won the league and FA cup and played attacking football that season, the following season wasn’t concluded when he was sacked. How can you sack a coach because he didn’t win ucl you haven’t won before(then), that’s the impatient of Roman I’m talking about. Why not give him more season knowing he is a serial ucl winner. No club will sack a coach in that situation except Chelsea under Roman. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:51pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Mrviktor: What the actual Bleep
Ole don survive again..
D only available coach is now taken..
Which soap that man dey use No soap, he is being protected by the power that been |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:50pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Leyqute: Ranieri didn’t bring Leicester from relegation to a mid table position l. He brought them from relegation AND won the league.
That feat is greater. Are you sure Riniery brought them from relegation. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:46pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: How can bringing from relegation to midtable be greater than from midtable to winning
Moving from 22 to 10
or Moving from 22 to 1
which is the better move? Because Mainz is the lower team here. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 5:46pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: If he failed he would have been fired, Neither Barcelona nor Bayern fired him, he left when his contract expired They don’t need to fire him, he saw that he had failed with the squad and ran, typical of him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 5:44pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Roman will not fire an attacking coach who wins Roman can fire anybody if result is not coming the way he wants it. Roman fired Ancelotti who just won epl and fa cup after short poor run of form the other season. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 4:58pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Ibime: Nope, Zidane succeeded at a backstabbing club where every player is out for his own interest. Players like Gareth Bale always beefing with him and putting out their own narratives.
How did Hazard play with his heart to give Zidane La Liga title? Hazard played with his stomach Hazard was hit with injury. I’m not sure he had played up to 80 games for Madrid. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:57pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: What title did he win with Mainz.
Ranieri won EPL with relegation team, that should be the greater than anything Klopp did He brought Mainz from relegation to a mid table team, that’s greater. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 4:55pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: If Lampard did well, he wont be fired and be currently jobless Thats Roman been Roman, he want to win always and don’t have the patient to wait. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 4:53pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Barca and Bayern did not spend as much money, His success at Bayern and Barca earned him the money and patience at City He had the squad at Bayern and barca. If anything? Pep failed at Bayern. Man city signed him due to his brand of football and they have the money to finance that. For pep to succeed he need quality players that can play his brand of football and to do that more money is needed. Before pep Bayern won treble, they won again after he left. He is good but overrated. Klopp is better than him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 4:50pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Is it not the same players that Tuchel is using? Why did respect not work for Lampard Didn’t Lampard do wonders too by qualifying the team to ucl with transfer ban, he signed good players and needed time but chelsea been chelsea no time for that. If anything, Lampard did well for chelsea according to the caliber of players at his disposal. Zidane had quality players at their peak. Zidane is good but Klopp is better than him and pep. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:47pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Ranieri took Leicester a relegation contender to CL football and winning the league so given your criteria he should be the best coach
He won and made progress with below par players Riniery did that once. Klopp has done wonders with Maizh, Dortmund and now liverpool. Pep failed at Bayern. He needed country’s budget to start winning epl. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 4:42pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: His success at Wolves earned him Spurs and he failed, If he had succeeded at Spurs he would earn a top club like Pochetinno where he can spend billions
Peps success at Barcelona and Bayern earned him the patience and right to spend billions. From parable of talents, only those who do well with little will be entrusted with more So Barca and Bayern were inferior club/squad compare to man city? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 4:41pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: How come Maradona didnt become a great coach, Or why is Henry now in Skysport and not coaching or Lothar Matthaus
You think your Chelsea players didnt love Lampard or did they love Tuchel more?
Lampard Maradona Henry Matthaus etc all had these and what became of them Does Chelsea have the caliber of players at Madrid then? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 3:05pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
A001: During his first stint at Bernabou, Madrid players played for Zidane because they loved and respected him a lot, not due to the person behind their contract. Yes I know. I’m saying if go to another club will he enjoy such. Won’t that expose his managerial skills. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 3:04pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Leyqute: Therein lies your answer.
This guy no sabi anything. The guy bank on individual quality too much. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 3:01pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
A001: Zidane's case is different now. He's not only a Madrid legend as a player but also the idol of many footballers.
Several players respect him a lot. But you can't say the same about Nuno. im talking of how players play with their heart for who they love or who is behind their contract. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 2:50pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Ibime: Nuno walked into a trap at Spurs
First he was like 5th choice manager, so the players were never going to take him serious
Secondly, his main player and Captain damn near went on strike and has downed tools, affecting team morale
Thirdly, he has the same accent and voice as Mourinho, a voice which those players are tired of hearing
On the other hand, we don't know if Nuno was ever a good manager even at Wolves.
The club is run by Jorge Mendes, all the players are agented by Jorge Mendes and Nuno is Jorge Mendes right hand man. So the players were always going to fall in line with Nuno and give their all. Even if a player had a gripe with not playing, Mendes would calm the player down and seek another alternative. And all the players are up and coming, looking for bigger moves as guided by Mendes, so they have to give their all to Wolves. Everybody pulling in the same direction.
This is the first time we have seen Nuno manage without the power afforded to him by Mendes, and have to manage players using his own powers of persuasion rather than Mendes Zidane is a good coach but this is same feeling I have about him. He was loved by the players due to his legacy in the club and football world so they played with their heart for him which yielded those trophies. Can he succeed without those factors is the big question mark. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 2:23pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: What is more special than taking a relegation contender to winning the league and qualifying them for the CL Barcelona and relegation? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 1:17pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Ranieri should be your best coach. He won EPL with Leicester Its not about winning but the progress made consistently with below par players. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 9:00pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Ibunkun1:
that you don't like someone doesn't mean you should ignore their impacts. How can you say klopp is better than pep? I like pep but I don’t just think he is better than Klopp for some reasons like; developing players and doing something special with a low quality team. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 7:34pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
Illimitable: The Pep version advanced the total football invented by Cryuff.
Pep went 6 levels higher. The Cruyff’s total football never starved opponents of possession. The Pep version made use of a conductor(Busquets). Pep used several other ideas to develop his version like using false 9, gengenpressing(Klopp actually copied this from Pep), false full backs, false 8s, inverted wing forwards, etc.
The only downside of Pep’s football is that it requires gazillions of money or special talents to work and it’s a system that can only work with ball playing individuals all over the pitch(including the goalie). So it’s an expensive project but the rewards are also huge. Other than that, Pep plays the purest form of football ever seen on the planet.
I slam Pep a lot but credits have to be given to him for what he’s done in the game. So you know his style of play is expensive and then you went ahead to rate him above Klopp. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:41pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
popizaino: Pep Josep Guardiola off course So you think pep is better than Klopp? If you think so I will want you to state your reason. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:38pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
popizaino: Do you know about one Rafa Benitez?....... Yes the same one who came back from 3 goals down to beat Ac Milan, the same one that won the league with Valencia, pls if you know him, tell us how he fared at real Madrid. You think real Madrid players would agree to do the slave work that klopp demand from his players? Man the only way klopp would win in Madrid is to allow him buy his own first eleven, those kind of players that will run from start to finish,if not forget, he can't win any Spanish league with this current Madrid Squad. So you think Klopp players just run for nothing, they mostly run with the ball |