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Ibime:
Xavi of the early years is not the Xavi we talk about. Simples.

In 2005, you dare not mention Xavi and Lampard in the same sentence. Lampard was already World renowned while Xavi was still finding his feet.

Xavi was not assured of his place and wasnt a killer. Im sure quite a few of his appearances back then are off the bench.

When you talk of Barca midfield up till 2007, only Van Bommel and Deco are assured of their shirt. Xavi, Iniesta and the rest of them rotate in and out.

Mikel also posts 30-40 appearances per season for most of his Chelsea career and is by no means an assured nigga.

Im sure Anelka has lot more career goals than Drogba. We cannot compare Drogba pre-2004 with Anelka when weighing up their productivity.

When you talk of Xavi, talk of the Xavi we laud from after 2007.

All that early comparisons dont count here. Even before we started this argument, I already set you the frame of reference for Xavi as 2009-2013 ab initio.

Modric is not to be classed with first time killers. Simples.

What you typed about modric is nothing but simple truth but you know, these niggas hate to hear fact. They prey on sentimental jingoism then try to turn it into jokes.

See them, they are already here. At the mention of hensben(minister of common sense on football matters).

Nihilist:
I'm not sure you truly grasp the crux of this argument.

Sure I grab what the argument is all about bro.

coded01:
Lampard the one-touch, visionary & pass maestro...

You want to dispute the fact huh. Not surprise though, most of you on here are club fan rather than football fan.

Ibime:
[size=15pt]I'm about to finish Modric whole career catalogue of assists in Lampard FIRST-TIME ASSISTS only.

Warning - If you have cheap China phone, log off now![/size]

I quit understand your point bro. The problem with most guys on here when you say delap had a better throw than okocha then, they think you are implying delap is a better footballer than okocha. Their sentimental mind make them reason illogical..Lampard>>>>modric though.

Formalities.

Good one boy

tripplephi:
OP u r d one who is WICKED for posting old stale STUFF...

Are you here to put sand in my garri or what? Even if it's old not everybody on here have seen it.

Btw, the 'STUFF' is not old sir.

Lalasticlala do the needful.

A sick woman was lying on her sick bed with her husband by her side, She turns to the husband and said

WIFE : Honey, I have a confession to make....

HUSBAND : Save your strength my dear!

WIFE : [Cuts in] Nooo, I want to say it so that when I die my spirit will be at rest. I have been stealing your money and giving it to my boyfriend, You're not the father of our son Junior, I was the one who stole your gold wrist watch and hide it in your sister's bag so that you'll drive her away..
Please forgive me

HUSBAND : I know all this, that's why I poisoned you. Keep calm Let the poison work....

Who is more wicked

mtweeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

Na true.. Happy now?

Though the op take things too far but this thread say it all about most Nigerian girls. I mean not even 1 lady is bold enough to say amen. Smh.

RIP MRS KESHI.

AdeLaNa1:
I'd actually consider taking u serious if u could actually put together simple coherent English sentences for once in ur sorry life. Nigga fûck off i didn't ask for ur opinion.


NB: U really need to get over ur hate for Neymar.....

E pain onwan teacher..

Chelseafan1:
.......why won't they play well in the EPL, the ONLY thing I fear for is consistency year in year out....Hazard played well for 2 or 3 seasons but has been a mess this time, Sanchez, Aguero, Ozil, Silva, Pedro haven't been consistent, Mahrez is playing well this season, he may become worse than Hazard next season.

Neymar will definitely shine and boss the EPL in any of the big 4, but after 3, 4 or 2 seasons, no one can tell if he's gonna still be the same, that's just what I feel about this issue.

oluwa bless you bro. I give Neymar two seasons in epl. Even cr7 last season for epl nor easy for am. If nor be say cr7 move to Spain na one balon de or him for get. Consistency for epl nor sure. Hazard still has it but the kicking from opposition team too much and ref dey rarely caution these players like Herrera. HaZard legs don cake and him nor come sabi play act.

AdeLaNa1:
I was one of d îdiots who used to think players like Messi and Neymar wont mke it in the EPL. But not anymore. So pls show me whoever still thinks the same and let me slap some sense into their heads.

If Ozil can mke it, so ll Neymar!!

you are underrating Ozil right? I laugh at your football IQ. Epl kick and run football was affecting Ozil play but he has find a way for himself this season. Messi will rule epl because he is strong to the turf, can play-make like silva and a goal machine like cr7. I doubt Neymar will make it. Erm tell depay to go to Seria A or la liga before it's too late.

dmcdad:
I get your point, but it seems you didn't grasp what I said.

For the records, Paulinho had his exposure on the international stage (at the Confeds Cup) and not necessarily club football. Neymar on the other hand had is playing for Santos. And let's face it, it's not easy to be heard all the way from Brazil if you ain't doing exploits.

Anywayz, there is no point talking about both players at this juncture as Hazard has a lot of catching up to do. I have known Neymar since he joined Santos and he has been on the rise ever since. He keeps getting better and better with each passing year.

Isn't it incredible that someone as young as Neymar is shouldering the burden of a great footballing nation as Brazil? Isn't it incredible that Neymar needs just 31 goals to equal Brazil's highest goalscorer (Pelé) in the international stage, while remembering he is just 23? Isn't it incredible that at this present of Neymar, Ronaldo at this age had just about 120 goals, while Messi had about 150, and Neymar already has 200+ goals with over a hundred assists?

And remember, he ain't a striker but a winger like Hazard.

To cap everything off, I would like to ask... What is it that Hazard does, but Neymar doesn't do?

hazard play LMF/winger in 4-2-3-1 formation while Neymar play LWF/striker in 4-3-3 formation(same position Anelka played for Chelsea that gave him epl golden boot, thiery Henry played same position as well for barca). Go check FIFA list and see were they categorize both hazard and Neymar then come back to past it here.

dmcdad:
I think I have to stop this. It's becoming ridiculous that you are this poor with your comprehension skills.

I made mention of Pogba, not because I had the intention of comparing them, both with a view to envisioning their overall quality. Now tell me, you always stay away from comparing Hazard to Messi, not because of the league difference (as with Neymar's case) but because you know that Hazard is just no where near him. No? Meanwhile, if you were intelligent enough, you would have given that as an excuse too, as Hazard and Messi play in different wings. My point? It's not about your position, but about your overall quality. Zidane played as a midfielder, but how many goals did he score? Yet, he is considered among the best footballers the footie world has ever seen. Far better than many strikers, midfielders and defenders alike. This is not about the position played, but your overall quality. I don't know if you are catching my drift.

Moreso, how come Pelé and Maradona are considered by many as the greatest we have ever seen? How come Messi is touted by many as arguably the greatest in the history of the game? I need you to understand why I am bringing up these questions. For you to know that when pundits and footie fans alike make such claims, they don't make them stating their positions as factors. Are you getting my point? Now, saying Pelé or Maradona or Messi is the greatest, do you realise that it means they are greater than every other players irrespective of position they played in?

Now let me bring this down to your level. Do you know that there are certain cases where position played is not factored in? If you don't know this, then you should have no business whatsoever with football.

Finally, as stated above, I never compared them. You are just always in a hurry to type and more often than not, you end up messing things up. I only said Pogba's level, which obviously doesn't translate to comparison with Pogba. It's typically about his level of operation and overall influence.

If you still don't understand this, then...

You are trying to sound intelligent but still oops. I repeat Seria a is becoming a retired league, salah is becoming messi there. Of course you can't compare level of football play in England to Seria A. You can't compare players playing in different league to each other, it's very wrong. If pique were to be playing for let's say man city he will be getting criticism every weekend but barca always win so fans rarely talk about his flaws thereby making him a defensive god in the eyes of people like you.

You don reach to get gf. This life don spoil finish.

dmcdad:
Wow! So you can actually attest to media hype? That spells the fact that most of you are just hypocrites.

When it comes to acknowledging what is obvious, you are now attributing it to hype. I guess you have forgotten that English media defines hype. They are the real definition of hype and everything EPL is hyped. There is no need going further with this. Neymar has proved himself beyond every shadow of doubt. He has proved himself to a level Hazard can only dream of. He has not achieved anything substantial and his career has already taken a nose-dive. I can assure you that, before he gets to Neymar's present level(if he will ever), Neymar would have been a proud winner of The Balon d'Or.

Also, bringing Paulinho and Bernard into this is very shallow of you. Who knew Paulinho pre Confederation Cup? Was it not the Confeds that brought it much fame and rave reviews? Neymar on the other hand didn't need the senior international stage to get the rave reviews that he deserves. He was being heard from Brazil with his exploits.

Infact, as it stands now, he has alot of work to do to get to Pogba 's level. When he does, then we can discuss the terms for getting to Neymar's.

Its OFFICIAL you don't know football. Comparing hazard and pogba who are different players entirely in different league. Seria A wey don turn retired league. I laugh at your ignorance.bigkesh was trying to tell you Hazard won young best player and best player in league 1 before moving to epl yet you dont know him then, another point which shows you're a club fan not football fan(Your type are always sentimental when analyzing football).btw, English media hype their own(uk players) not foreign players

dmcdad:
Come on bruv, why are you being so myopic? You always give the 'not in the same league' excuse when comparing both Neymar and Hazard. And I stated, if it was a comparison between Hazard and Messi, would you give the same excuse still?

How is that difficult to grasp?

You are still not making sense but you won't realize it.

dmcdad:
But how come you don't sound this same way when Messi is being compared to Hazard albeit they play in different leagues too? Huh?

hazard compared to messi? So if zidane talk say hazard get some messi style mean comparison for your eye shey.

BarcaBlood:
And u keep saying it. Damn do u read what u type before u post at all? So 2 players must play in d same league before they can be compared
Neymar just got honored as d 3rd best player in d world yet u still can't say who's better between him and hazard. Dude quit smoking already

The truth is you are been unfair to hazard if you compare them that way. Btw, Neymar was not the winner of balon de or, hazard came out first 10.

BarcaBlood:
U can't be a barca fan and yet u keep saying d trash u so continuously say. Even ur fellow Chelsea fan knows neymar will do well anywhere he goes because of his quality


And 2 think ure still on dis hazard ish

which trash? That hazard and Neymar don't play in same league so we can't really say who is better which I true. Or that Neymar and hazard play in different position, tactics.

airmark:
Mr. man stop this. Ozil's peak moment till date was while playing with madrid. Everybody knew what he did in la liga and he was honoured. He gave the most assists in his 2nd year in la liga, the feat he has n't replicated in epl. In fact prior to this season many believed he was not playing to his best ability for arsenal, so why the bossing noise now. Before this season very few top clubs would be dying to buy him handsomely. This is his 3rd season he is just getting his footing right unlike when he got to spain, eating them raw in la liga.

nor mind all these haters and sentimental being. Airmark I like you because you dey talk fact. I dislike sentimental people.

BarcaBlood:
He z definitely not a barca fan. He just wants 2 feel among

me feeling among? I'm damn sure I'm more of barca fan than you.

Nor be by using barcablood as Monica be the coco.

dmcdad:
Who told you he is a fan of Barça? Number 1 Barça and Neymar hater. Although he confessed after the Betis game that Neymar is something else.

Na him bin carry the Hazard-Neymar matter for head pass na.

if I praise Neymar say him try mean say him better pass hazard. They don't play in same league so no comparison for now. Me? Barca hater? Lol.

raumdeuter:
Scholes showed what he could do in 2008 CL final and won the trophy

Terry CL 2008 threw away the trophy

CL 2012 Missing Chelsea won

Europa 2013 missing Chelsea won

World cup? Voicemail

scholes was substituted in that match. Cr7 missed PK as well. What are you saying mr.

dmcdad:
Is Neymar overhyped? Is Douglas Costa overhyped?

If you know previous Brazilian players you will understand what I'm talking about.

raumdeuter:
Did Robinho beast in La Liga like Neymar is doing?

Ozil and co that are inferior to Neymar have turned EPL to their footmat making 15 assists by December

neymar beast la Liga? How? Messi and the rest beast la Liga.

raumdeuter:
Did Robinho beast in La Liga like Neymar is doing?

Ozil and co that are inferior to Neymar have turned EPL to their footmat making 15 assists by December

you don't even know how to argue like for like. Ozil is better than Neymar in his position so is Neymar better than Ozil in his position.

Dhelake:
Robinho? That one Na footballer? That you even choose to use robinho as a comparison sef dey somehow. Neymar will beast the Epl, don't even come with all those physical type of football yarn, if Ozil, silva, de bryune can shine in this league, gba gbe eh

what i'm saying is that neymar will be ordinary like this players you just mentioned not this hype he is currently getting. if only silva or ozil were playing for barca that's how you guys will be comparing them to legends but unfortunately, they are playing in a league were things are equal. so you nor know when pele and co dey hype robinho that he is the next big thing in brazil after him(pele), ronaldo..

timbros:
Alexandre Pato to Chelsea.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/transfers/12100638/Chelsea-in-Alexandre-Pato-transfer-talks.html

Guys, will this be a good buy? I've not seen much of him post AC Milan.

Enough of brazilian players in chelsea. Pato can't do jack in epl, another falcao.