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plaetton:
liar.
From which bible are you reading from?
Eve never rebelled against god.
If we are to take the bible literally, then it is clear that she was simply naively misled into eating a fruit she was not supposed to eat.
How does that translate into a rebellion against god.

There is no child that has not, at one time or another, been misled into disobeying his or her father.
Good fathers don't disown their naive children on account of one small act of disobedience.

You are an expert at twisting the bible.

PastorKun:
So by your twisted logic, as it not occurred to you that muslims are abandoning the religion in far higher numbers and converting to christianity than those you claim are becoming rational thinkers A few years down the line, going by the trend, Nigeria is. Likely to be 80% christian, 10% muslim and 10% traditionalists/"rationalists"

alienvirus:
You just hit him there. The guy called billyonaire is one funny dude. He was severely dealt with in politics section. He is looking for a way of pitching his tent in religion section.

So we have refugees on NL ?

silvermania:
back It up uninstall it. re install the normal whatsp chat for like some minutes. then uninstall it u will now re install whatsap + that will do it make sure u using edge or 3g

FrancisTony:
*Pitches tent*

Dem dey pitch tent for hall?
oya fold that thing mah see those debating

vosquare:
Try this 351612061849524

thanks bruh..
just discovered my etisalat sim have been blocked as I haven't used it in a long time...

thank you

elantraceey:
That's expected .

Case study

Is she typing from the church?

If she's... then she's not listening to sermons or participating in church activities which makes her a 'secular' Christian.

If she's not...then she might probably be an atheist or a deist who doesn't believe in Christian doctrines

vosquare:

silvermania:
team whatsap+ have uninstalled my bbm

My Whatsapp+ installed normally but can't get passed the verification stage...why?

Missmossy:
Lol @ ugly smileys... Haba naa?

*in Nico & Vinz's voice * Am I wrong?

They should come borrow NL's Smileys from Seun... These ones looks more cooler and more personified.

happy Sunday

GooseBaba:
That's where you're wrong. European did not bring us this concepts. We already had them. You're clearly a product of colonization. Smh... Are you telling me that atheism, agnostics and deism were all created by european... Are you saying that they were no skeptics in pre colonial africa/nigeria... Your case is worse than I thought..

You mean while you were still worshipping Ifa, Sango, Oduduwa, etc you knew about atheism and Deism... Hmmm for this blatant lie...you deserved to be crucified.

Please go study the history of your country and stop displaying 9:29pm ignorance...
The whitemen are the source of our enlightenment... Give credits to whom credit is due...without them,we'd still be licking asses of the gods.

Life could be about predecessors and successors that's why we constantly reproduce.. Ask a man who does not know his history he gives credit to others for knowledge his predecessor have/had..

Evolutionary theory is not an absolute truth, it could change tomorrow if new discoveries are found.. the only people loosing sleep over this aspect of science are theist who thinks they already have the absolute truth.. Check ya self...

davien:
It's a great big equivocation fallacy....the fact that something can be thought of as another does not magically turn it into what it is thought of..
The fact that an eye is reminiscent of a camera does not make the eye a camera....they are two separate entities and until one can provide a case as to how the universe ought to be "undesigned" they have no case... an example is you should know what "right" is before calling things "left"..

I know the gist of deism...just answer the question....how is a "creator" deduced if one can't differentiate it ever being there to begin with if no trace can be found of it's existence and it can't be separated from natural processes?

'His' works testifies of his existence

Just imagine you were cleaning your room...you now picked a moth-eaten book with the back gone so that you can't see the author's name... Does it mean the author doesn't/didn't exist?

True,although i see why it is mostly preferred among academics
Many rich ideas stem from deism...for instance...
What would seem to us as a deistic entity might in fact have a purpose for the universe...albeit not for our existence...but the creation of living entities like us may have been an inescapable by-product of the universe creation'...
And for all we know a deistic entity might in fact be using the universe for study of it's own environment...not by interaction of the universe but through observation...
The problem is that all those examples of a deistic entity have as much the same evidence,0...

Pascal's wager is about theism not deism(although it expresses it a bit remotely) and so it is not applicable to defend your deism nor is it true even of itself because belief is for one not a choice...you genuinely have to be convinced and again you stand to lose alot of things in theism best summarized under my post here https://www.nairaland.com/1930863/letter-atheists-pics#26819243
and even still deism has a large score who don't subscribe to a "mandatory belief" but still hold the view plausible...

GooseBaba:
I see why you keep running around quoting european authors and their perspective on deism. That's why you use the word intelligent being " and now you use the fish in a fishbowl argument from a theistic perspective.

Who brought all these concepts to us?....Isn't it the European folks?
As far as I'm tapping from the source, that's makes it 100% legit...just like Christians quoting the Bible.
I don't know why you still having problem with that adjective 'intelligent' ...If I see a nice sculpture and call it beautiful... is it a bad thing?

It seems to me that you still hold a theistic god concepts while claiming to be a deist. That's why your argument against evolution theory is soaked in theistic beliefs without biblical quotation. Why do you feel the need to defend god/creator..? what is there to gain for wagering on the existence of God...?

My ancestoral teachings tells me that man's efforts to know God is to understand the cosmos and make peace. This is from an african deistic perspective..

davien:
herald9 if nothing can be said about the belief in the "creator" that you believe to have started the universe,nor can it be discerned from natural processes...then what is the difference between it being non-existent?
....or is it the belief that makes it existent?

zbone:
bros did you read the story... it said recently DIVORCED actress...