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Lesson to all Nigerians, stop voting a lifeless president, seek a visionary leader. We are who our leaders are.

I want to ask the God in the Bible, in the Old Testament, you used to talk directly with the human beings. Then why you stopped doing so later? Are the Adam and Eve on other planets also disobeying your orders? Why would you warn the human beings in the form of dreams? Why not tell us the truth directly? Don’t you have the ability to do so? Don’t you have time? Don you have

I can give many other examples to state that the God in the Bible does not have the features of being sole and only, amorphous, neutral, mysterious, impartial, supremely powerful, merciful and wise as genuine Greatest Creator has.

So we can affirm that “the God in the Bible is not the genuine Greatest Creator”.[/quote]Who tell you God doesn't speak directly to us,




Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

paxonel:
Over the years in christianity, there were several cases where some people assuming the position of the leaders of the church misunderstanding scriptures and deceiving the world and Christians(it is still happening today).

For instance, there were times when the church and the whole world was made to believe that the earth was flat in shape and not like a sphere.(a position which was never backed up with scriptures). But billions of people dogmatically believe in this erroneous doctrine simply because their pastors or Pope says so, until the era of Gallelio.

The same thing is still happening today in all churches you can ever step your foot on.

The leader or pastor or Reverend or Father or Daddy GO is the one talking for God and the bible.

The leader is not having a clue of what the bible truly represent or he deliberately do not want to have a clue simply because he is benefiting financially from lies.

The people who are listening to these leaders will not possibly perceive what is happening to them.

And the nation at large is being affected negatively.

If you are an atheist, this is not for you to smile because, your case is even worst.

You are miserable because you are equally affected by the errors of religion so long you interact with people.
You cannot possibly understand what is happening to you.
A religious person with the wrong mindset takes over the position of authority there it goes again.

Bible, you don't know
Quran, you don't know

How then will you redeem yourself as an atheist from the society?

How will you speak and correct that religious person in position of authority from his own religious point of view (if you have the opportunity to do so)when you don't know anything about the bible or quran?

THE WHOLE MESSAGE OF THE BIBLE IN SUMMARY


Matthew 22:35
35.Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36.Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37. Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38. This is the first and great commandment.
39.And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets

Passing the wrong information to people in the name of preaching, is not a way to love them

Everyone want to obey this instruction of christ and live better, but few people are truly willing to undergo the process of understanding what people truly need before they can truly understand how to love them, and that process is education, attending a quality school.

And you will agree with me that there are no quality universities and colleges in Nigeria(or are schools of theological studies quality schools?).

this explains why Christians in Nigeria cannot meet up to this standards of Jesus Christ.

So, they resolve to going church for people to see, so that they can be seen as holy people.

What does Education have to do with the scripture you quoted?

Looooool, you are another height of delusional I'm seeing. Your post is rubbish, and you quite made some false assertions. Assertions that the pastors fed the gullible church members. Most people go to church to worship God, not to see a pastor, but for orderliness to be in place, there must be a Pastor or teacher or G.O. to guide them based on the experience he had with God and How God want them to be led

Maamin:
Of course I don't believe in you...or any Damn thing you're saying here.

leave her to her delusion, I believe some persons are extremely gifted in being delusional

ivysunday:
First of all, we have to admit that the Bible is the accomplishment of the Ephraim which loyally records the Jewish history, explains the relationship between the God, Devil and human beings to the furthest degree, and gives the direction the human beings should take.

The Bible, the Koran, the Buddhist Scripture and the Tao Te Ching are the eternal and effective treasures and collections of human wisdom, teaching us how to behave and develop into the higher level of life space.

“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth”. The first sentence in the Bible did tell the truth. But the things covered by the cossack may not be the holly things. And the people wearing the sacred cassock may not be the abbot.

The problem with the Bible is that the God it introduces is not the genuine Greatest Creator.

We have known that the Greatest Creator has the 8 features. The Greatest Creator is sole and only, amorphous, neutral, mysterious, impartial, merciful, supremely powerful and wise. The wisdom of the Greatest Creator is revealed through its establishment of the Universe order, design of the life program and knowledge about the past and the future.

Then, does the God in the Bible have the above-mentioned 8 features?

Let’s explain this with examples.

The Betrayal of Adam and Eve

According to the Genesis, Adam and Eve were instigated to eat the fruit on the Wisdom Tree forbidden by the God in the Bible. Because they have violated the order of the God (in the Bible), they were repelled out of the Eden.

It indicates that the God in the Bible is a. incompetent; b. improvident; and c. impartial.

He is incompetent because he was a loser at the beginning. The first couple of human he created betrayed him. So can we still say it is supremely powerful?

Can we still believe in a “person” who often loses? The Great Flood had killed most of the human beings. What happened to them afterwards? They still wouldn’t listen to his words. The Moses Ten Commandments are actually the directives of the God in the Bible. Can you tell me how many of them are obeyed by the human being? Actually not even one. The God in the Bible seemed to know nothing about how to control the human beings. The only measure it takes is to voice warnings and threats against the human beings. Thousands of years has passed, the human beings remain the same. Is there no means to control the human beings? Or is there some other force constraining this Almighty God? If this is the case, is this God not sole or only? For thousands of years, the human beings have been violating hisorder. What is he waiting for?

The God in the Bible is improvident because he didn’t know that Adam and Eve were going to betray him or the development trend of what he had created. Is this God, who is not able to predict the future or the past, still reliable? If the Earth is going to get out of the Solar System and this God knows nothing about it, how can he save the human beings? How can this GOD administer the deities, Buddha, celestial beings and Devils when he found it difficult to control the human beings? How can he manage the spacious Universe?

The God in the Bible is impartial because it cannot tell wrong from the right and because it is unreasonable.

Why would Adam and Eve betray the God in the Bible? There are three major reasons. First, the genetic structure of Adam and Eve had faults, or was imperfect. The life created by this God was now its own constraint. This angered the God very much. It is just like the house built by an architect who put every efforts was fallen and hit his own feet. Is the house or the architect that should be blamed?

The second reason they betrayed is that they were instigated and seduced by the snake. Adam and Eve are humans while behind the snake was the Devil Satan. The energy and wisdom of human beings can’t match those of the Devil. This God didn’t punish the Devil Satan. Instead, it imposed inflictions on Adam and Eve and drove them out of Eden. Is it fair? If a rapist raped an 8-year-old girl, would it be fair to blame the girl for her sexual organ and weakness instead of bringing justice to the rapist?

The third reason of betrayal, which is also the most important one, is the damned Wisdom Tree that can tell the good and evil. Who has planted it in the Eden and why? It’s just like putting a poisonous sweet on the dinner table for the kids. Or it’s like playing the porn video for the young girls while teaching them to retain their innocence. Would a moral person do such a thing? Isn’t this “person” who planted the Wisdom Tree in the Eden has caused the betrayal of Adam and Eve?

Besides, does this God, who had created Adam and Eve, has other measures to take rather than driving Adam and Eve out of the Eden? Is it fair not to give them a second chance simply because they have made only one mistake? Does one mistake justify their life-long sins?

Jesus came to the Mortal World to atone for the human beings’ sins. According to the Bible, all the people have their “original sin”. Where does the “original sin” come from? Actually, they are inherited from Adam and Eve, the ancestors of human beings, whose sins were formed because they had eaten the fruit on the damned Wisdom Tree.

When we are born, we have the “original sin” inherited from Adam and Eve. The “cross” on our back was much too heavy. According to this logic, “the son of a thief is always a thief”, “the son of a criminal is always a criminal”, and “the son of an emperor is always an emperor”. That’s why in ancient China, in the feudal period in particular, “If a man committed crime, all his family members would be sentenced to death”, or “If a man attained the Tao, even his pets ascended to Heaven”. This also explains why the thrones can only be passed on to the next generations of royal families. This is because it complies with the logic in the Bible.

If somebody has sins, the God in the Bible and the Satan sined first. Is it humanitarian to inflict on billions of humans throughout the history simply because of the wrongdoings of Adam and Eve? Why not executing Adam and Eve and creating a new pair of humans at the time? Is creating a new couple so difficult for the God in the Bible?

All the people are born with sins. This is why each of us comes to the Mortal World to endure the sufferings. But the sins are not inherited from our ancestors. They are made by oursleves in the previous cycle of life. If we don’t have sins, we would all have become Buddha or celestial beings.

Ten Plagues of Egypt

According to the Exodus, when Moses and Aaron, in the capacity of the GOD in the Bible, asked the Egyptian Pharaoh to let the Israelis leave Egypt, they were refused. Consequently, the GOD in the Bible imposed 10 plagues on Egypt. 1. Plague of Blood The water of the Nile will be changed into blood. The fish in the Nile will die, and the river will stink; the Egyptians will not be able to drink its water. 2. Plague of Frogs. The Nile will teem with frogs. They will come up into your palace and your bedroom and onto your bed, into the houses of your officials and on your people, and into your ovens and kneading troughs. The frogs will go up on you and your people and all your officials. 3. Plague of Lice.The dust of the ground became lice, lice came upon men and animals. All the dust throughout the land of Egypt became lice. 4. Plague of Flies The houses of the Egyptians will be full of flies, and even the ground where they are. 5. Plague of Livestock Death The fifth plague of Egypt was an epidemic disease which exterminated the Egyptian livestock; that is, horses, donkeys, camels, cattle, sheep and goats; 6. Plague of Boils The sixth plague of Egypt was Shkhin. The Shkhin was a kind of skin disease, usually translated as "boils".; 7. Plague of Hail The seventh plague of Egypt was a destructive storm; 8. Plague of Locusts Locusts will devour what little you have left after the hail, including every tree that is growing in your fields.; 9. Plague of Darkness Total darkness covered all Egypt for three days 10. Death of the Firstborn The tenth and final plague of Egypt was the death of all first born in Egypt — no one escaped, from the lowest servant to Pharaoh's own first-born son, including first-born of livestock.

It is understandable that the God punished Egypt because Egyptian Pharaoh wouldn’t obey his order. However, it was unreasonable and went too far to kill the first-born of all humans and animals in Egypt. You can punish the Egyptian Pharaoh for his disobedience. Why inflicting on the common people? Even worse, the God would kill the kids of the girl slaves working as donkeys in the lowest rank. Can we still say the God behaving like this merciful? It was behaving without humanitarianism just like a Devil.

Even more abominable, the Pharaoh of Egypt wouldn’t let the Israelis leave mainly because the God had hardened the Pharaoh’s heart. Before the Ten Plagues came, the God in the Bible had done something. According to 7:3 in the Exodus, Jehovah told Moses, “And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt.”

It means the God in the Bible had prepared a trap for the Egyptians, trying to find an excuse for the following plagues. In Exodus 8:19, “Then the magicians said to Pharaoh, "This is the finger of God." But Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had said.”. In Exodus 9:35, “And the heart of Pharaoh was hardened, neither would he let the children of Israel go; as the LORD had spoken by Moses.” In Exodus 10:20, “But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go.” In Exodus 10:27, “But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let them go.” In Exodus 11:10, “And Moses and Aaron did all these wonders before Pharaoh: and the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go out of his land.”

It was the God in the Bible who let the Israelis leave Egypt. But it was the same God who had hardened the Pharaoh’s heart and sparked the conflicts so that the Israelis couldn’t leave Egypt easily. So what the God in the Bible was doing? It was encouraging the people to revolt while telling the authorities about the revolt and encouraging the government to oppress them mercilessly. Isn’t such a person a schemer and two-faced?

So is this the image of the Greatest Creator?

The Israelis Are the People of the Covenant

The Bible has the Old Testament and the New Testament. The part telling what happened before Jesus was born was called the Old Testament and the part telling things after Jesus was born was the New Testament. The Testament actually means agreement, covenant, and contract. The whole Bible is the agreement, covenant and contract between the Israelis and the Greatest Creator.

So here is a paradox. There are over 3,000 nations in the world and why the God has established the Testament with the Israelis? Does this mean the other nations are not the subjects of the God? If they are, why has the God only established the Testament with the Israelis while neglecting all the other nations? If they are not, what’s the origin of all the other nations? Are Adam and Eve only the ancestors of Israelis and not the other nations? The Israelis are created by the God. Does it mean the other nations are created by the Devil?

There are 1,656 years between the Genesis and the Great Flood. There are 857 years between the Great Flood and the Exodus. There are 396 years between the Exodus and the founding of the Israeli State. There are 510 years between the founding of the Israeli State and their captive to Babylon. There are 152 years between their imprisonment in Babylon and the reestablishment of Jerusalem. There are 450 years between the rebuilding of Jerusalem and the birth of Jesus. There are 2003 years between the birth of Jesus and today. So according to the Bible, the history of human beings is about 6,376 years.

According to the Bible, there were only 8 people survived the Great Flood on the Earth. They were the couple of Noah, their three sons and their wives. It means that 4,700 years ago, there was no one else living on the Earth except for the Noah family.

But this has brought some other questions. First, where do the American Indians come from? According to the theory of Continental Drift, America drifted away from the other continents. But it couldn’t happen within 4,700 years of time. Then how the Noah family reached America from the Middle East? After the Great Flood, there were only 8 members in Noah family. It was impossible for them to get dispersed. Noah couldn’t let one of his sons and his wife to cross the freezing Siberia and the Bering Strait to get to America.

Second, where did the African blacks come from? From the perspective of genetics, the blacks, yellows and whites have their separate ancestors. A couple of pure whites couldn’t generate the blacks and yellows. Even the evolvement couldn’t produce the blacks and yellows in 3,700 years of time. Besides, according to Darwin’s evolutionary theory, the survival of the fittest, could the Israelis able to write the Bible evolve into the African blacks? The blacks are not the matches of Israelis in the intelligence no matter how we exaggerate their abilities.

Now let’s come to the Chinese nation. The first Chinese King was born about 4,600 years ago. The story of Dayu‘s Flood Control happened about 4,200 years ago. It was impossible for the future generations of Noah to come to mainland China 100 years after the Great Flood. Even if they did it, how could they produce so many people who followed Dayu to control the flood?

Where does the Chinese nation come from? Are the Flood Control by Dayu were just the Great Flood?

From the perspective of the Bible, the biological evolutionary theory could never be accepted. But once we accepted the theory, it would deny the theory that the God created the human beings. But if we denied the evolutionary theory, there was no way to explain the origin of the blacks and yellows and we can’t say Adam and Eve are the common ancestors of all human beings.

The Story of Cain

The first child of Adam and Eve, after they were driven out of the Eden, was Cain, followed by Abel. “And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect.” Out of jealousy, Cain killed his brother Abel.

We want to ask the God in the Bible some questions, “Why do you favor the offerings of Abel instead of those of Cain? Is Cain killing his brother Abel not your fault? If you had never favored one of them, how could it arouse the jealousy of Cain? Why the people created by you had so many troubles? Adam and Eve wouldn’t follow your orders and their kids killed each other. As the God, you don’t have the ability to solve these problems? Or is it what you have designed?

Cain was a murderer and deserved the punishment. But you told Cain, “Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.”

So what kind of the justice standard is it? It is hardly understandable not to levy the punishment on the criminal. But it is even more understandable to have revenge of sevenfold on those who would punish the criminal. Is it protecting the criminal?

That’s why the few thousand years of human history were full of blood, violence and crime. The God in the Bible has been protecting the criminals.

“Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.” Because Cain is a criminal, we can fully understand it as ““Therefore whosoever slayeth the criminal, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.””

We can conclude we had better become criminals because the criminals are protected and the good men are not. The good men have the risk of being revenged sevenfold.

The Prophet and the Dream

In the Bible, there are a large number of prophets and dreams. The prophets are the representatives of the God in the Mortal World. They have unimaginable wisdom and power, which sink the average people with average wisdom into the mist. If someone says, “I am a prophet”, should we believe him or not. If we don’t, we are standing against the God. If we do, how can we know the prophet is a fake or not?

Now let’s talk about the dreams. There are many dreams and dream analysis in the Bible, in particular in the Revelation. Of course, those who can analyze the dreams are all prophets. But they have also brought a lot of puzzles.

First, has the prophet had the dream at all? No one could see his dream and he could well compose some dreams and cheat us. If he really had the dream, was his analysis correct, or was he analyzing the dream on the reverse aspect?

I want to ask the God in the Bible, in the Old Testament, you used to talk directly with the human beings. Then why you stopped doing so later? Are the Adam and Eve on other planets also disobeying your orders? Why would you warn the human beings in the form of dreams? Why not tell us the truth directly? Don’t you have the ability to do so? Don’t you have time? Don you have some secret sorrow?

I can give many other examples to state that the God in the Bible does not have the features of being sole and only, amorphous, neutral, mysterious, impartial, supremely powerful, merciful and wise as genuine Greatest Creator has.

So we can affirm that “the God in the Bible is not the genuine Greatest Creator”.

Your fifth paragraph said we have known. Where did you get those assertions from and how do you define or attach attribute to a creature you don't know. Its like telling me to describe you when I haven't seen you or what you look like, well we live in a world where anyone can fantasize and push their junk to the gullible public

All your write up hinged on a false generalisation you cooked up and explain. Not worth its value

Please rephrase the first line, any religion that doesn't hear God who is the greatest creator is a dead religion

P.S. The Greatest Creator speaks to me. That you've not experienced snow falls, doesn't mean snows doesn't exist somewhere.

Your write up are all piece of false generalisation

hopefulLandlord:
godsmopol, how you dey?

I dey alright, am into politics now, and that's why I really don't come online that much. Have you heard of Omoyele Sowore, He's running for presidency, I believe we need to give him our support

Seun:
The two men never debated each other, so once again, religious apologists have to resort to using lies to defend their indefensible ideas.

Some quick reactions to Kent Hovind's juvenile arguments:

"The universe is run by laws. Who gave the laws?" Scientific 'laws' are not laws. They are just observations. We call them laws because the terminology was coined by scientists who believed in the existence of a creator. They felt that their consistent patterns they observed in nature must have been decreed by the creator, so they came up with terminology "laws of nature". In fact, scientific 'laws' are just observations.

"Scientists say that nothing exploded to create everything" No, they say that an extremely dense ball of matter expanded rapidly and this led to the universe that we observe around us. It is true that scientists don't know where that compressed ball of matter 'came from'. But scientists have never claimed to be omniscient. The fact that scientists are honest enough to admit that they don't know some things makes them more credible. Religion claims knowledge, but their explanation for everything is to say that "God did it", based on ancient myths.

"These guys have looked for missing links in the fossil record but they can't find any" This is tautological. By definition, once you find a missing link, it ceases to be a missing link. Many species formerly regarded as "missing links" have been found, so they are no longer "missing".

Do you support the race of young presidential candidate sir? And if yes, why sir?

NwanyiAwkaetiti:
This is done all over the world so its no biggy

you no like toothpack

[quote author= post=70428478]This is sad sad sad sad sad .....[/quote]it is really sadonic

pressplay411:
Thanks for your wisdom, it took years, but I get it now. And yes, I now speak in diverse tongues. Glory to God.

you made my day Sir

elyte89:
All Dis parties wey no fit win "FAMILY ELECTION", let alone of winning a WARD ,SHIO

they won't win because we are not promoting them in our neighborhood, they have more visionary leaders than the ruling parties

This is to remind all Nigerians that a lot of people are putting so much into championing a course for a better and greater Nigeria, and NYP is one of those ground where thousands of Nigerians who believe they can contribute positively to make Nigeria great are gathered and together, we shall be so much to decide whoever should be our future leader.

Together we shall decide whether a visionary and wisdom filled Nigerian should be our leader or some old cabals that cares less about the masses.

Join and share

Www./NaijaYouthParty

This is to remind all Nigerians that a lot of people are putting so much into championing a course for a better and greater Nigeria, and NYP is one of those ground where thousands of youth who belief they can contribute to make Nigeria great are gathered and together, we shall be so much to decide whoever should be our future leader.

Together we shall decide whether a visionary and wisdom filled Nigerian should be our leader or some old cabals that cares less about the masses.

Join and share

Www./NaijaYouthParty

Proudlyngwa:
Yes it is

What is and where are your proofs

We love using wrong grounds to prove whether things should be either right or wrong. And you cannot build a solid house on a faulty foundation

Oooooooh, artificial insemination, why would anyone do that. Get married and stop asking dumb questions

how does the question make Sowore the president come 2019

ok

Nigeria is gradually becoming unsafe for the present and future generation and I must confess that religion is really killing a lot of Christian.

By religion, I mean, we many times have an half baked understanding of what God is saying about a thing at a time, or place or event.

It really breaks my heart to see people praying that we should have good leaders, yet they won't not participate in politics.

Politics over the past few years have been bombarded and would be bombarded by some unscrupulous element and unless some concerned Nigerian(Muslim and Christian faithfuls) arise to take the staff of leadership position, I really wonder what would become of the future.

We all pray for our country, but I believe this is time we need to start building and conservation conscious.

Nigeria population is about 200 million right now, and we are complaining, now, its a fool that leaves his house burning and goes to another man's house to help him put out their own fire. Many Nigerian believe they would run out of the country and my question to you is, how many of us would keep running to the developed countries.

Those developed countries started underdeveloped and they grew to developing until they finally were developed. What was the difference? Human resource management, Nigeria as at today is blessed with multi talented youth which we at NYP believes can make this country great.

Many have said, the youth are inexperience and might not be capable to rule the country, that's a blatant lie from the pit of hell.

We can't continually have politicians who spends to loot at the helm of affairs. We all should stop collecting money from those politicians, I quite understand there is hunger in the land, but things might get worse if after collecting #5,000 to vote and a T shirt and other material gift which thousands would get. The next question we should be asking ourselves is, how do they get their money back?

There are so many things to be displeased about, but the truth is, my friends and I believe we can all make a difference, we can form a party, fund a party, and build a masses party that is free from godfathers, where those we put in power would be accountable to the masses not a few billionaires who funded their campaign.

Yeah, we have prayed, but the Bible said, work and pray. We can't continually keep praying without working, this is the time you need to get a PVC, and seen I believe your PVC still dey there, looooool, we all need to vote these ruling party out and yea, Sowore is the president come 2019, I pray Sowore join Nigeria Youth Party because we share a lot of ideologies and together, we can take Nigeria Back. Thank You

Good morning all

mrsefan:
yes it is ass mofo

lipSealed and stop playing bitch "BITCH"

See my signature

You youths should go and get your PVC

Cc lalasticlala obiscoppy

The Revolution is here already sir, I can hear the roar so loudly that all we need is our PVC

deji17:
Monica Lewinsky don end Mr Lecturer career. Professor don spoil him own career with him third leg.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arzn4kBOxJI

looooool

#GetYourPVC Together, we shall vote Buhari out of power

Fazemood:
After watching that video over and over you didn't see where he said that 60% of Nigeria youths sit down and do nothing and yet are expecting to leave on oil money without working because we are oil producing nation?

BRO YOU NEED BRAIN

Insult of the highest form

jaychubi:
It's a hate speech against d impoverished youths

Abi ooooooo, if its a Nigerian now, they will give them so maximum punishment

To forgive is to reelect

mrsefan:
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Looooool, are you bored or this is some lazy Nigerians move?