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Hier:
@Didov1,
Mention 3 reasons with reference where necessary

And 2 things the saved man should form an habit of, and call to remembrance, the moment he's saved

Moreso, study Romans 6, the entire hebrews and 1 Corinthians 15 and share with me, what you understand from there

Am waiting ma

0temAtum:
Like the one Noah drank and become drunk to nudity?

Loooool, at least the verse says litle if we are to go with Paul, Noah just felt like enjoying life. Otem, I missed your doctrufos, spin one of those, probably I might read it. As the spirit leads sha

johnydon22:
DNA code.

ultimately variations in organisms are determined by variations in DNA codes in the cells. A given Cell (particular organism) going through series of mutation (DNA code rewriting) will eventually on the long line (through reproduction, passing of traits to offsprings) become a distinct organism from the original



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likewise cells varying in DNA codes due to mutation

Hmmmm, DNA codes from a simple free floating cell in the atmosphere, not fair I will say

AgentOfAllah:
Have you established any distinction between ovaries that are "perfect" and ones that are "just adequate"?

In context, perfect means, that accurately fit or complement the process of reproduction

The emboldened claim is demonstrably false. Your question, itself, implies as much. Both genders are dependent on each other for reproduction.

okay, what I meant is, considering that the male and female might have existed somehow in the past, as evolution was still ongoing. Is it then possible that the separately and alreadily existing male or female develop a separate sexual organ, of course, they might be coming together, but there is a separate form of the male and female reproductive organ, and not only that, s*men and ov*m come into the scene sounds hasty or uncalled for. Why should the male develop a pen*$ while a lady went another way having a vul*@

AgentOfAllah:
Like I said, I didn't find a place you made such a claim, so I have no reason to believe him.

I never did. He might be inferring that, in the sense that he noticed I was refutting all the comments even until Se*n

johnydon22:
In the course of cellular evolution, two different cells fusing to form one organism is not unheard off (this in fact is the very point of origin of sexual reproduction)

Examples: Mitochondria has shown to operate from different gene codes from the rest of the cells therefore is consistent with the idea that mitochondria was a free living organism before being incorporated into the cell.

Cells are basically complex, multi-cellular beings are even more complex system, evolution of single cell organisms gave rise to multicellular organisms and the effects of multicellular organisms are as a result of the intricate functional system of cells working as one entity therefore the effects drastically would be more intricate, different and far more efficient.

Sexual reproduction is not an accident, it's a natural process that consistently arose from billions and millions of years of cellular evolution.

Thanks for the write-up

Wait, help me to understand, these cells are they to eventually become one organism or there was a cell that would eventually become a specific organism

As in, is it general cell to specific cells, as in, one cell after many formation of daughter cells became all creatures

Or it was specific to specific, as in, each cells as a result of big bang resulted in a cell which would evolve to become a particular cell. Eg, 61000000 cells from big bang, finally becoming the exact numbers of organism. Let's start with that

AgentOfAllah:
I must have missed his claim then.

lol, do you believe what he's saying

obinna58:
And I'm telling you that Quran is the real deal and it's backed with pure evidence and fact
Bible is not life, Quran is and you only be saved by it and it alone
Don't forget allah won't forgive you if you eventually die with your Bible
Their are lots of evidences in Quran but you decided to make way for darkness instead of light out of your ignorance
Only if I can chop off your head

I offend you


yea, so pure I will say. Baba, abeg, no use laugh kill me.

say our tincan biz dey move. all the cantainers from obodo oyibo

Have you heard of fruit wine

analice107:
Try not to joke with the negatives. Rejection of God is a serious infraction.

Well, I never rejected God, and like I said, I was kidding. I never meant it when I said I was an athiest.

obinna58:
will u join the Muslim league with me and save you unseen soul from eternal suffering?
Making way to the light and save yourself from darkness

You claimed the quran is life, so become a muslim, I believe my Bible is Life, that explains why am still a Christian

johnydon22:
People look at results of slows causalities ou w firthem accidental in that way connoting sudden causality or at least using a tone that insufficiently represents the effect in question.

Natural process mostly are never accidental as i like to put them, possible
Sexual reproduction is not an accident, it's a natural process that consistently arose from billions and millions of years of cellular evolution.

I be right back, am in an open environment, would reply you after reading your comment. Thanks

AgentOfAllah:
Have you established any distinction between ovaries that are "perfect" and ones that are "just adequate"?



The onus of this challenge is now on you.

I be right back

analice107:
Congratulations.

Lets sha ooooh, did you realise I was kidding bha

obinna58:
Quran is life

Become a Muslim if that's the case.
Would you?

onyenze123:
Science is not lying; I doubt you even know what science means.

Science is simply saying we don't know all the details for now

Science is simply, what I can explain, (without considering the fact something or someone who could have influenced) using what I can relate it.


In my past life, I have been able to relate with the fact with personal convictions about the existence of God , so I would be deceiving myself, because I won't look for answers when I'm convinced I know the answer.

obinna58:
Mtchew

looooool, by the way, the Bible is Life, not what you think

rexben:
Are you actually preaching Jesus or Christianity. Mind you, the two are diametrically opposed. He that have ear let him hear

The thread was to stir the passion for evangelism. chikina

Life is in STAGES

obinna58:
Bible crap Who has time to read Bible crap

You are not my audience, thanks

John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

It's surprising that despite biblical reference that go along explaining that the gift of speaking in tongues and the ability of the new creation Christian to come to their full knowledge in Christ with proves like Joel 2:28 and Jeremiah 31:34 which layhold on the fact that a dispensation according that the prophecy of Jesus in John 4:21-24 concerning this present as compared to what was expressly shown and came to manifestation in the book of Acts. Many Christians still harden their heart and Jesus is saying to you today,

John3:12 If I have told you earthly things,(things that you can relate with in your Bible) and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things(relate with spirituality)?

Paul has the following to say

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

kevoh:
Just to clarify and not allow miseducation of people on basic biology, it's the sperm that fertilizes the ovum released by the ovaries. The ovaries are like ovum ( egg) producing machines. The semen is the fluid that contains millions of sperms ( spermatozoa). An ovary fertilizing male semen as stated by the OP is illogical.

my bad,

COURTESY OF: LACRAM LAPOUR

CAPSLOCKED:
2+2 = 4

IT'S POINTLESS SCHOOLING WITH 2+2=5 BECAUSE YOUR BIBLE SAYS SO.

loooooool, thanks for the laughter pills.

I didn't quote a "Bible says so" on the thread, do me a favour someday, undo the caplock, I might consider becoming an athiest that day, but wait, athiest does not appear in the Bible, I have second thought thou.

onyenze123:
Hier

That's your own believe which is subjective.

The objective answer is "We don't know for sure; We are still researching"

still researching?

That's too risky if peradventure science is lying and I know they are

Everything about science makes logical sense except reproduction, get to know that

chemystery:
I should admit god exists? Sorry even if I want to deceive someone, it shouldn't be myself

As for your link, here is this photographer that said a bear appeared to him. Anything can exists as well as appear to you, all you need is just to be creative in your imagination

pictures can lie, but facts don't lie

adepeter2027:
Argumentum ad-logicam

"Ovaries" don't fertilise semen

Instead spermatozoan fertilise ovum

Haaaa, biology days don't tay ooo. At least you got my analogy, that's communication bro

Adebola02:
Hello sir Do you believe that there's a supreme being call God.

He doesn't. Try another question

chemystery:
Wow, thanks for this. I learnt something new today. I will still read further. Unfortunately, you will be surprised how some theist will come and exhibit their ignorance and delusion on this very comment. Just watch!

I guess you too hasty to come to conclusions

Samsimple:
where did i say i am an atheist for christ sake ...my pple perish because of lack of knowledge..i am only tryin to save u frm further embarassment in moments to come...

Save me

Oooooh, embarrassments doesn't move me in anyway, am use to them esp on facebook in debating groups.

Seun:
Over time, our primitive ancestors lost the ability to clone themselves and became completely dependent on sexual reproduction. We (people, spiders, & beans just inherited it.

This sounds like extinction to me, lemme ask, considering a 150years lifespan in human, how long will they live to enjoy another evolution?

I mean, how long does it take for a complete process of evolution to happen, considering the above lifespan in human

The fact that the sperm and eggs of human beings are compatible isn't remarkable

I consider it remarkable

since we would not be here otherwise. The interesting thing is that the sperm and eggs of species that used to have a common ancestor
can cease to become compatible with each other over
time. This is part of what is known as "speciation" and
it's the reason why nature is so diverse. Without
speciation there would be very few distinct species.
My answer to your question based on my limited knowledge. For more info, go here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_sexual_reproduction

Well, this part is cloudy, I'm not too familiar with scientific terms, but I still don't see male and female organ springing forth from both party. The male and the female may have stopped cloning and all of that, but becoming male and female is quite fuzzy. Like I said, its very cloudy, I need time to analyse it

chemystery:
Don't mention. What are brothers for?

All I need from you henceforth is to admit to your lack of understanding and say "I don't know" to things your actually don't know and have evidence for than pretend to know. It will save future generations from delusion.

Loooool, that's beautiful poet you know, I think poetry is your thing

You mean I should admit all that's in my room just happened without any question.

I have a link for you, it is a trap, and I prefer you stay away, but incase you have any question ooooh, just admit God exist and you on your way to heaven

I feel for you, that's why I want you to be saved

https://www.naij.com/1082434-islamic-militants-chasing-christians-middle-east-angry-jesus-appears-them.html

https://www.naij.com/922551-face-jesus-appears-sky-england-photo.html

Samsimple:
U dnt need schooling ur moment will come sooner than later

I can tell you one of the mention was online some minutes ago, he must have checked the mention, but couldn't answer the question, you've had two chances to answer but you didn't, so I was not ignorant at all. Probably, science still won't accept the obvious. Lemme tell you, I can agree with the athiest on any thing they throw at me, because logic compels me to, but I would rather say, it's better you accept Christ and repent of your sins, cause hell is not a week, and the fact you were once a Christian, and you consider it better to be an athiest, despite proves of the existence of God. I don't know the gravity of your punishment

You could simple get hold of a lifejacket and you shall live forever, and forever is like after 100 trillion year plus another forever

I feel for you and want you to repent, get a good church and be committed to church activities

chemystery:
I honestly attribute that to my lack of total understanding of the world. And the logical way to go about finding an answer is to seek for proof and evidence before arriving at a conclusion.

On the other hand, you have already arrived at a conclusion, then provided your lack of understanding as proof which is irrational.

I want you therefore to always have it at the back of your mind that the lack of understanding of something is not an evidence of god, but an evidence of lack of understanding

Thanks for answer, Bro