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revelatiorcm:
in my attempt to answer you....
If i may humbly ask, sincerely so...
why are you not as you were born?

I have grown in wisdom and knowledge compare to the bolded

Am sorry, I really don't have much opportunity to reply comments unless those that I'm having one or two things to do with. see Matt5:6, Is 55:1, Matt28:20, 2 Tim2:2, Mark 3:14, Shalom

Didov1:
...the real deal in what way?

I believe the books of Acts and all therein is the least God expect from the Christians today

Prov4:18, 2 Corinthians 3:18, John14:12

Didov1:
wow.wow.,beautiful

are you saying yes, of course, you just did. Glory, am so happy right now.

Yea, I sent you a mail, check your email. Thanks

Add me on Facebook

Avwemoyan Gerald

If the Holy Ghost leads me. If not, no way

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The Holy Spirit is given to direct us into all truth and He knows the lie from the truth

Fill me up Tasha Cobbs

Jesus

Halleluhia

Halleluhia

Halleluhia

Halleluhia

Halleluhia

cont


12. The program has the right to run on its own without the support of the program for a short period when the programmer is away.

13. If there are competitive programmer, they would be some form of diversion from the true religion. And this competitive program could aim at corrupting some programs by the first programmer, and probably, commercialise the usage of the program. Gain and pride and fame minded. Public and private sector

14. The competitive programmer seeks to give his program whatever it desires as long as he likes it and it will lure more people to invest in his shares as against the stereotype program who is still not compromising

15. The authentic programmer has a set of guidelines for the program as to how best to conduct or please the programmer

[quote author=Wilgrea7[/quote]Lemme Just try to be logical. If there was a true religion, how should I picture it.

Using a computer program and his program

1. The program didn't create itself- acknowledge God, not itself or other programs, I heard some people vinshu or so worship cows

2. The programmer created the program-creator

3. The program was created to serve a purpose, I.e. fellowship or worship

4. There is a channel of communication. prayer

5. The programmer always check his program to see its progressive nature.

6. The primary goal of the program is to do what the programmer condition it for. Worship

7. The programmer instruct the program overtime via the Holy Spirit, we hear God

8. Peradventure the program is in need of help, he goes or communicate to his programmer. Now, here is where some who claim they had a last prophet gets its wrong. The programmer always cares about his program and sort to keep it inform in the case of a wicked earth as we have today

9. The program could develop a bug to eliminate threats from attacking the program, and if the program fails, the programmer builds another stronger bug to clear the threat and restore the program to default

10. The programmer has the sovereign power to override the program- rapture if it fails to accomplish its mission.

11. The program is a picture or part of the pictures. the programmer relates with.

12. The program has the right to run on its own without the support of the program for a short period when the programmer is away.

If you have any, feel free to add, probably, you might not believe in programmers kikikiki

Bro, the programmer is real.

Thank you Jesus

I will develop this at a future date.


Don't mind me, am just trying to understand God using the above

hopefulLandlord:
my point here is very simple and I'll summarise it

"If Judaism can be true at some point despite

Hier, in your reply, you seem to agree that Judaism was right despite the fact that there is coercion

doesn't that contradict your first post in question? if a religion like Judaism can be right (in those days) despite coercion, why then are you ruling out all religion now that use coercion, doesn't that reek of inconsistency?

I said, it was specific and God needed a seed from the house of Abraham, Abraham might have taken a covenant that his children would not depart from God. This was to ensure the fulfillment of the prophecy in Gen3:15.

God sure used coercion because they saw and knew with countless proof that it pays to serve God, but they decided to be slaves to their flesh, as in, they delight in pleasures of sins, than to worship God. So, in other to prevent such act from spreading among them. God takes them out. I don't see it as coercion so to say, its rather judgement, now that the prophecy is fulfilled. God has accomplished what He intended.

The truth is, if God doesn't take those steps specifically on the Israelite, they might have given yield to pleasure of sin and that might impede the coming of Jesus. It was not enough that Jesus should come, but He must come at a time when, those who are alive would carry on His task and continue His work.

y coercion and apostasy laws, then coercion doesn't rule out any religion today" its very simple

if you start with the presupposition that Christianity is true, it's easy to reach that conclusion. which is what you did, you worked FROM conclusion rather than TO conclusion[/quote]Oooooooh, well, you need to understand that those who were affected were basically, Israelite, those that left with Moses, Moses never forced anyone to leave Egypt, but to leave Egypt. If anyone is pleased with Egypt, they are free to stay.

But here is Gods temple, Israelite and the promise land. God want to raise an holy set of individual that would grow and ensure the fulfilment of the coming of Jesus through them and if anyone is standing or attempting to hinder that within a land or space God intended to be used to accomplish His desire. I won't call that coercion but judgement, because they were told.

Come to talk about coercion in Islam, yes, they practice Shari'a and that, but, even till date, they enforce their religion on others, claiming allah has a this and that to compensate. We know of dan fodio, Nigerian were not from the Islamic background, neither were they warned, neither do they have previous tie with Islam. and the killing spree started, but if that's who their opinion of who God should be, then I rest my case.

hopefulLandlord:
Hier, in your reply, you seem to agree that Judaism was right despite the fact that there is coercion

doesn't that contradict your first post in question? if a religion like Judaism can be right (in those days) despite coercion, why then are you ruling out all religion now that use coercion, doesn't that reek of inconsistency?

I said, it was specific and God needed a seed from the house of Abraham, Abraham might have taken a covenant that his children would not depart from God. This was to ensure the fulfillment of the prophecy in Gen3:15.

God sure used coercion because they saw and knew with countless proof that it pays to serve God, but they decided to be slaves to their flesh, as in, they delight in pleasures of sins, than to worship God. So, in other to prevent such act from spreading among them. God takes them out. I don't see it as coercion so to say, its rather judgement, now that the prophecy is fulfilled. God has accomplished what He intended.

The truth is, if God doesn't take those steps specifically on the Israelite, they might have given yield to pleasure of sin and that might impede the coming of Jesus. It was not enough that Jesus should come, but He must come at a time when, those who are alive would carry on His task and continue His work.

hopefulLandlord:
I'm afraid you haven't but I see where you're getting it wrong

you're using a priori argument, using the basis of your religion to rule out another religion

just like the analogy Wilgrea7 used the other day, its like trying to fund out the best animal among monkey, goat, lion, and fish by telling them to climb a tree, of course only the monkey would win

Please go deeper on the bolded. Thanks

HCpaul:
Stop pushing things...... I stopped taking life serious when I read a book. The book affirm that the universe is made up of stories not atoms, created by ideas and not by any myths or deities.

These stories are of two major types:

1. Stories that touches

2. Stories that works.

Religions are stories that touches and that is why it targets human emotions and not their mind knowing that when humans are emotionally captured they cannot be mentally vibrant.

Science on the other hand are stories that works and that is why we are having all manner of scientific lyrics and philosophical tales yet these stories works. That is what Stephen Hawkins was referring to when he said that science will win because it works.

These stories has digressed from being one of those lenses and dimensions of reality but has become reality themselves.

Some months back, I thought that it was only God that is homocentric but I have gotten to realize now that humans are.

Religious people portrayed God in the image of mankind...... Scientists are also victims because they also portrayed intelligent aliens with this same image of mankind.

I am beginning to love religion but I hate and detest the bigots behind it. I dislike people that take religion to head. It's obvious that true religion are born out of ancient traditions and ideology but some ignorant minds of the twenty-first century still take religion to head. people with no significant impact want to live forever.

By the way

I should say I should have been like you by now, but I later understood that truly Christianity is not a religion, but a fellowship

A fellowship between the Father in Heaven and His son on earth. Probably you have been looking at the wrong place all your life, in your quest for God. He that seeketh findeth. You don't sought for light amidst darkness. Some things are not meant to be seen in some places or situation or under certain atmosphere.

Apologies, religion has battered you. No offense, and thats why you never saw or encountered God. Many of this liturgical churches might not be a good ground to find or seek God, because its impossible for you to encounter God, when the ministry you grew up under, doesn't know God.

hopefulLandlord:
let's assume this is true, just for discussion's sake

Before Christianity, there was Judaism, right?

let's look at OT

at that point there was coercion, anyone that worships other gods is fair game, they can be killed for daring it anyone that as much murmurs or doesn't carry out Yahweh's instruction like he told him to is sent to death, it was "You have to worship me, obey me or I'm gonna kill you/make your life miserable/kill your kids" pu something similar

my question now is, since Judaism used coercion (same as Islam does now) back then, does that mean Judaism was wrong then too?

First of all, Islam's coercion from my write up is from the angle of "to others outside their religion" for instance the recent visit to Turkey by Remi that shows it was once populated by the Christians now shows 99 percent Islam, they never preached a sermon and so much as that converted.

Now, Jesus never used coercion, so if Mohammed came after, he shouldn't.

About Judaism, the coercion was within Judaism. The reason was because, the natural man loves plea
sure, so God had to put some check and balance in place, so that even if the entire population wants to engage in idol worship, there is a reverence, so they curtail themselves. Its like passing a law not to drive on BRT and there are no enforcement of that law. It won't work.

My opinion is, God sought to save the world through the Israelite, so He raised them and groomed them for that, and if there is a form of impediment to God's plan to save the world, He simply eliminate that hindrance to His will.

I believe I answered right

The coercion was to those within the elected race, though, it could have been general than specific, but the purpose of everything in the old testament was to ensure the coming of Jesus, and change started with Jesus

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and

her seed

; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.


Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.


Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed;

it shall bruise thy head,

and thou shalt bruise his heel.


Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and

her seed

; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.


Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.


Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed;

it shall bruise thy head,

and thou shalt bruise his heel.


Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

How to know the true religion

You know the true religion by the power it has over other religion in spiritual things without using coersion

By its way of worship

The exemplary life of the leader

In Christianity, Jesus has been prophesied since Gen and other prophets that came after Jesus, kept prophesying the anticipation of the coming of Jesus.
Isaiah prophesied more.

Controversy about the religion by other religion. A means or attempt to water down another religion shows the religion was not fabricated or made up by some freak

Reference /aforeProphesy or an initial prophecy of an action to be carried out by an expected person or prophet

The present relevance of the religion in term of what it preaches healings, signs and wonders, evangelism, appearances of supernatural beings leading to supernatural conversion.

What it preaches, Christianity preaches salvation due to the fall of man and redemption or a sacrifice made to put that to a stop.

Continuity, Islam claims Jesus prophesied the coming of Mohammed, but Mohammed never continued or built on the works of Jesus, I usually ask, why should Jesus be born without a father. The answer is, Jesus needs the God nature of God to overcome the devil in the grave. And He needs a flesh to come to earth to carry that out.

Adam lost it to the devil, someone like Adam only has the right to get it back, because God gave dominion to Adam Gen1:26-28. Dominion means full authority. If I happen to give you the will to use my house, and you invite a friend to squat with you.

I can't question you, because you have the will to use it as you desire see Psalms 115:16, Luke4:6, the devil said, the earth was delivered to him and he has the same power Adam had as at then, to also give the earth to whosoever he desires, just that, at rapture, Satan ceases to be in charge of the affairs of this world.

That's why Jesus said, we are in this world, but we are not of this world, Jesus said, Satan came, but to steal kill and to destroy, but God has sent me to put a stop to that.

So, whosoever believeth in me would not perish(I.e. experience any form of death, either through Sin, because sin shall have no Dominion over them if they believe and keep holding fast to their confession/profession of faith without wavering because faithful is He who has called us into virtue and truth.

#JesusSaves

How to know the true religion

You know the true religion by the power it has over other religion in spiritual things without using coersion

By its way of worship

The exemplary life of the leader

In Christianity, Jesus has been prophesied since Gen3:15(the seed of Eve through Mary) and other prophets that came after Jesus, kept prophesying the anticipation of the coming of Jesus.
Isaiah prophesied more.

Controversy about the religion by other religion. A means or attempt to water down another religion shows the religion was not fabricated or made up by some freak

Reference /aforeProphesy or an initial prophecy of an action to be carried out by an expected person or prophet

The present relevance of the religion in term of what it preaches healings, signs and wonders, evangelism, appearances of supernatural beings leading to supernatural conversion.

What it preaches, Christianity preaches salvation due to the fall of man and redemption or a sacrifice made to put that to a stop.

Continuity, Islam claims Jesus prophesied the coming of Mohammed, but Mohammed never continued or built on the works of Jesus, I usually ask, why should Jesus be born without a father. The answer is, Jesus needs the God nature of God to overcome the devil in the grave. And He needs a flesh to come to earth to carry that out.


Adam lost it to the devil, someone like Adam only has the right to get it back, because God gave dominion to Adam Gen1:26-28. Dominion means full authority. If I happen to give you the will to use my house, and you invite a friend to squat with you.

I can't question you, because you have the will to use it as you desire see Psalms 115:16, Luke4:6, the devil said, the earth was delivered to him and he has the same power Adam had as at then, to also give the earth to whosoever he desires, just that, at rapture, Satan ceases to be in charge of the affairs of this world.



That's why Jesus said, we are in this world, but we are not of this world, Jesus said, Satan came, but to steal kill and to destroy, but God has sent me to put a stop to that.

So, whosoever believeth in me would not perish(I.e. experience any form of death, either through Sin, because sin shall have no Dominion over them if they believe and keep holding fast to their confession/profession of faith without wavering because faithful is He who has called us into virtue and truth.

#JesusSaves

glory

LisaAnne:
dreamt he was my soulmate when we first started dating , don't know if it's from God or just wishful thinking. cause why would a soulmate cheat anyway.

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just follow your mind, and ask God to lead you aright.

are you double minded? neither cold nor hot

focus on God and repent.

see my signature

A demonic thread

LisaAnne:
Hi.
can i please ask you a question？
my boyfriend of three years cheated and i kinda forgave him till i prolyy like someone else.
question is do you think we are meant to be ？

Can I answer your question?

First, what have God told you about him, this is someone you be spending more than 2/3 your life with and don't think God is not interested in making things very clear.

Can a church be void of God's presence?

NASTYNASOSO:
SOMEONE SHOULD PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS

EXPLANATIONS ON JESUS AND THE CROSS MATTER


1. Who carried the cross of Jesus to Golgotha?
a) Jesus carried the cross (John 19 : 17)
b) Simon of Cyrene carried the cross(Mark 15:21-22).

2. Which of the two thieves that was crucified along with Jesus made jest of him?
a) The two thieves made jest of him (Mathew 27 :44)
b) Only one thief made jest of him (Luke 23:39)

3. Judas repented after he had given Jesus unto enemies, what then became of the thirty silver coins earlier received by Judas?
a) Judas threw down the coins in the temple before the high priest and the high priest used it to buy a large piece of land to be used as burial ground for strangers(Mathew 27 :6-7)
b) Judas spent the money to buy certain portion of land for himself (Act 1:16)

4. How did Judas die?
a) he hanged himself (Mathew 27 :5)
b)he fell from a high place, his bowel split open and he died (Act 1 :18)

Imagine if you are a Bible Quiz master and some of the above questions are asked during the Quiz Competition, which of the available two answers for each of the question will you accept as the right answer in each case?

Though it might seem like though you , but aut
these doesn't change the fact or contradict g fact that

we fell from the beginning-Genesis.

Jesus came

Jesus was cruxified

Jesus rose having destroyed all principalities and power

Jesus gave us authority over principalities and power

Made us hiers with Christ

If any of the above are affected, then I will see that as contradiction