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Didov1:
..ok..till then...

pending the time, welcome to my old thread, just an intro


The Bible said, we should desire spiritual gifts- 1 Corin 13:1, but how would they desire if they've not known Romans 10:14.

Look for one of my thread on testimonies about Holy Ghost baptism. I would say, we have so many things to talk about.

There was a time I was praying for this guy and he fell to the ground. I believe in miracle, and don't quote me if you think otherwise, and the fact that I have not seen pizza face to face, does not mean, pizza doesn't exist. If you wanna see miracles, go for programmes like Bonnke and Benny Himn where at a blow, people fall under power

By the way, I don't need to proof anything to anybody. I know God for myself

Ezi39:
They were both in one of the orthodox churches
they married but the woman later changed to pentecostal.
That is how the whole thing started

If this is the case, hmmmm, I am speechless, because I won't lie to you, when you become a full member of a pentecostal church, orthodox church becomes tasteless, and the taste keeps decreasing as the day go by. No answer bro, but she could pray so things would change for the better.

Ezi39:
hate
The woman said that her packing was due to the direction of the Holy Spirit.

Well, the question is, don't she know that's the mans denomination before getting married to him. She shouldn't be thinking because the husband was a "as she say I do" kinda man. Then its gonna be forever like that

Didov1:
.spiritual experience like......will church be a barrier to what u want to say.??

Thanks for your time. We talk at a future date, probably a farther date than this

MuttleyLaff:
Are you bothered, if she does

You also asked:
Does the fact that we refer to ourselves as Christians, makes it punishable by God. You know the punishment for sinners at least

Well I dont know about punishment.
But I know you will be held accountable, if you persist after knowing the truth and meaning of term

Please, close this case, #Shalom

Didov1:
..same here...u make me read d whole comments 2 understand u....he is jst after d historic meaning of d name n d way it was during d time of paul....dou m nt in support of his notion,..cox i belief the word christian means follows of christ... dat do nt stop me from been a christian..

Well, thats by the way.

You didn't reply my last question about intercession

The Holy Ghost through Paul said submit, through Peter submit said the same thing. Why marry someone you won't submit to?

Submit means his authority is final and you do things his way except you agree or otherwise

MuttleyLaff:
Let me add, that, knowledge isnt free, you got to pay attention

The word Christian, is the Greek transliteration, Christi-anos

So, admittedly, the attachment or commitment to a traditional term,
especially one is known to, addressed as or referred to, has to be a hard thing to break
Certainly, this is a seemingly pious name, to make one, want to bury head in the sand
and not want to know the truth about it
(i.e. be hostile to the truth about the tag Christian or Christi-anos)

The fact, that, you refer yourself as Christian, don't mean that's who you really are
because the truth of the matter, is, that's not what God calls you, it's what the world calls you or says who you are.

Here are a few parallels you can relate to:
Are you a nigger?
Do you refer or address yourself as a nigger?
Do you call yourself, answer back after or when being called a nigger?
What would you say if someone, right now, possibly non-black, called you a nigger?
Have you begun to catch the drift?

Acts 11:26 is not an acceptance verse
rather it is a history verse, informing readers, that the believers, were called this epithet, Christi-anos (i.e. Christian) first, at Antioch

Acts 11:26 is not saying, that the believers, called themselves, the Christi-anos or Christian epithet

By default and custom, the disciples never wrote any letter addressing or calling each other, using the Christi-anos or Christian epithet
if you find any, bring it to my notice.
Please, in your findings, exclude afterthought bible versions or translations

Christian is just another epithet, similar in import, to the infamous word, nigger

Just, as black people suffered as niggers, before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 enacted by the 88th United States Congress
so the early believers suffered, contemptuous ridicule, mockery and/or disdain
and Peter, in the 1 Peter 4:16 verse, IS NOT, under any circumstances, calling anybody or anyone a Christian
but rather, is saying dont be ashamed, if any gets to be treated like a nigger Christian
(i.e. in effect, keep calm and brush it off, if subjected to contemptuous ridicule, mockery and/or disdain)

The person, that used that term around Paul, is a hardcore and die-hard Jew
who knew what he was doing and saying, by using the Christian term around Paul

Agrippa, not only a Jew but a king as well, deliberately and calculatedly, tried to hurt Paul's emotional state or sensitivity.

Do you really believe that Agrippa & the people of Antioch revered Jesus that much, they called the disciples or believers ''Christ-like''?
You do know and understand what Agrippa & the people of Antioch meant by the term Christi-anos or Christian?

But of course, it is better to cat a fish first before you descale and gut it
so Paul ignored the Christi-anos or Christian epithet, uttered by Agrippa, to offend him

He also avoided calling himself a Christi-anos or Christian, instead replied with:
"I wish to God that you and everyone listening to me today would quickly
and completely become as I am (except for being a prisoner)

It would have been the perfect opportunity for Paul to thump his chest
and in King Agrippa's presence, proudly declare he is a christian
but alas, he didnt, he let that window of opportunity slide by.
WHY?

Also, Paul never carried the notion in his epistles that, he or any of the believers is a christian
WHY?

Then God said,
"Let us make human beings in Our image, to be like us (i.e. according to Our likeness)
- Genesis 1:26a
I dash you Genesis 1:26a verse

²⁷Jesus and his disciples left Galilee and went up to the villages near Caesarea Philippi.
As they were walking along, He asked them, "Who do people say I am?"
²⁸"Well," they replied, "some say John the Baptist, some say Elijah, and others say you are one of the other prophets."
²⁹Then He asked them, "But who do you say I am?"
Peter replied, "You are the Messiah."
Mark 8:27-29

Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it
Your ''gist me'' wish is my command

Too bad, many dont discern why and what Agrippa and those in Antioch implied by calling Paul and the earlier believers Christian or Christi-anos
In youth we learn, in age we understand
Certain truths, can only be clearly seen or understood with the wisdom of age and grace of God

Christi-anos or Christian is a misnomer for believers, saints, brothers, sisters, disciples

Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28 and 1 Peter 4:16 are the only three places in the bible where the term Christi-anos or Christian, is found.
On each occasion, the term was used in a belittling, derogatory and rebuffing context or manner
No where in the bible, will it ever be found, any of the disciples, believers, Paul, Peter, say I am a CHRISTIAN...
Same way, you wont say about yourself: I am a NIGGER

I've scrolled up but I dont see her earlier comments on this thread
she, however, is a wise sister, for ducking the Paulic part

well, I must be sincere, but that's by the way. If I had know, I will just put up a write up without quoting you but its gonna address all that. So, I will just pretend as though I didn't read all the above and go to my tent.


Thanks

Didov1:
sorry muttleylaff,i was reffering 2 d former thread were ur comments were taken from..(handful of reason why you may not be a christian)that d name of d thread.....nd abt d paulic part,i dnt rilly understand d word,dat was why i told him i'm a christian...

You seem like you are in agreement with his write up from the bolded, the truth is, if I call myself a Christian, it doesn't make me less of what God want for me, cause all this confusion doesn't count before God now.

They've said it all

godfromGod:
Lala spotted.

Loooooool, baba, your eye sharp ooooo, ops bin dey mention the guy anyhow. our own oam5j no dey enter this place. the last post dey mod post be say, him dey fine wife, I just look say, see this flirtist

adepeter2027:
Religion section not interesting again.

It's now battle/beef section

Funny enough, I was really blessed by this, you know, in the former moniker, I do see athiest as this people I just wish I could disactivate their account, recently, I was hostile to hopefullandlord, and made fun of chemystery and otematum seem to be regular customer, though, 1sharon was a bit upset at me recently. .

It was recently, I felt, am not getting something right, though akint*m has considered me on my former moniker, claiming I was deluded and so. But I started respecting, after he said, he was once a fellowship president. But anyway, I believe we are all great minds and this section is home to me. I feel like, all the best post should be brought here, like football, fashion and business ideas.

I could remember one of the best thread then and bennyann mentioned Godsmopol and I was like, why will you mention me on that thread, I almost took it up. But I kept quite, the thread was about contributors to religion section. Obinna58 was at his best on e thread, hahn and I once met on a thread where a Ghana pastor bills member about 5000 dollars and on and
for different donations esp his popular pic where one truck disposing trash on his comment after comment. And am like. What the . . .

.Adepeter2027 broke me down with his reply my greetings recently, I really didn't want to, but i did, i was expecting a snub actually but the response stunned me, i was caught unaware. Though, now that akint©m offline, its a relieve kinda, but we all here see daily and we are unconsciously building bonds overtime not knowing. I would say, Revd Adepeter26 converted me..

I'm still growing daily

2 Corinthians 4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.

Kyllahmc:
Catholic was the only church back then... immediately other churches started breaking out from Catholic
messed up...
now Church as we know it today is plain .

The truth is, catholic became the only church after the period of the persecution, catholic was never the first church, though we all have our origin from them, it was some belief by catholic that led to the division or
reformation of the church, I believe it was the right thing that could be done.

It pains me bro,and I feel your pain, but many people don't know this things and many folks need to know cause you start asking question and many have lost faith in God and tag the Bible "MYTH"

But, a time is coming when we would have it like Jesus said, Greater than this shall ye do

Do you believe in power giftings

To better understand this thread, start from here

www.nairaland.com/4008923/aftermath of ark wages quick

If you've read those, we welcome you to this complimentary thread

Its quite lengthy, its about 23 pages. I will copy section by section, or threads if I find it more convient, that way.

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This is a continuation of this thread, well, I think there are more to write and if you have an additional helpful information.

www.nairaland.com/4008923/aftermath-dark-ages-quick-look

I was in church this day, and it was question and answer time, you sabi Anglican and their liturgy and all of that and like seriously, after all the tongues and flows of the spirit I enjoy under my Spiritual fathers ministry and all the long hours of praying in the spirit for a long time, I get home, and its like, no, I can't be sitting here, cause I can't feel anything so to say, at least, I would have love it, if the best, I can get is Gods presence, and many times, I would be singing my own song to create my own spiritual atmosphere, even within the church.

Yea, the man asked if the church today can be like the early church, well, I usually like seeing the way people reason, because how do you want to explain that the early church enjoyed a good period of miracles, signs and wonders, and here we are, at least, you self sabi now, so lemme allow you do the brain gymnastic, loooool, who told you am about to stop, I'm laying foundation, and don't even think am an athiest.

Barnabas the thief and do away with Jesus. Okay, nice picture, lemme give you Stephen, okay, John the baptist was beheaded. Stephen was stoned to death, and Paul spent many time in prison, remember, Paul and Silas, ehnnn ehmnn, so why do you think things were rosy, yea, the prison shook when Paul and Silas prayed. Well, that was then. But, have you heard about how the Apostles died, sorry, do you think they died, Catholic guys know better, okay, they were killed. I believe you know the difference between killed and died. To die, could be natural or by some intentional means - killed.


channel.nationalgeographic.com/killing-jesus/articles/how-did-the-apostles-die/

Haven established that all apostles aside John the beloved, who wrote the book of Revelations, after he was left to die at the Island of Patmos.

Revelation 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Haven known all that, come lemme pat you. But truth be told, so many things have happened, tribulation unspeakable, full of persecutions, killings, and tribulations. So it has not been easy I will say, but it grew worse, especially when Rome burnt and the emperor blamed the Christians for it, and the punishment was simple, if that small girl can proof that Peter(a christian) was with Jesus(related to Christianity). That Christian is either burned to light the garden or imprisoned or done with.

I sabi say, if you were alive at that period, with the same trend continuing for about 500 years, more souls will be won, you will want to go to church on Sunday, shouting Halleluhia, in your high heel and suit. You will advise your children to study the Bible, you know, force them to go to night vigils and go out to preach the gospel.

Yea, well, I will address this question better later, but download this PDF for more info. I will copy and paste the Timeline soon.

Here is the link to the PDF or simple search Timeline of the church PDF


https://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.churchtimeline.com/Documents/ChurchTimeline.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi94eei8ZLWAhVEZFAKHdrHAVkQFgggMAA&usg=AFQjCNFvj3ii0BuwvqI6aSd_pD1i80nSHg

continue this thread here

www.nairaland.com/4038604/what-led-why-christianity-looks

Martinez19:
Why do they tell lies and make up stories to make their religion true? Lies like going to heaven and hell then coming back, lying for Jesus, lying for the Islamic cause, making up miracles and healing etc. Do you know that the fact you have to lie for your religion puts a question mark on it's truthfulness because if it were true, it would be there for all to see.

Why can't christians realise that if their religion is the truth, then by now, there would never be a debate on whether God exists or not? It would be there for all to see. Everyone would have embraced christianity. Who would ignore healing? Who would ignore miracles? Let's reason: if christianity is true, there won't too much talk on which is the true religion since the results would speak for themselves.

Loooooool, well, this things are real I will say, but I know a time is coming, when all Christians would agree on some common set of believes. I wrote some threads about what you talked about.


www.nairaland.com/3952438/vultures

I was a christian back then, but lemme not take much of our time, it all boils down to the dark ages, if you understand the dark ages, you might find answers to the askance


www.nairaland.com/4008923/aftermath-dark-ages-quick-look

Martinez19:
It was removed. No exactly the same the topic. In the other topic, I accused christians of the no true scotman fallacy.

I could remember seeing sharons comment and the pages, going to about 15 or so. Just to see another one again. its well

adepeter2027:
its that stupid mod called mydn (ọmọ mase anfani, omo àlè jatijati) that banned my ID.

Since then, I just weak for NL

haaa, I got frustrated for almost two weeks, I could not log in with browsers I access the site with. Its been long otematum came around, hahn self, na once in a while.

yea, I noticed my bans were too much, and i felt like, okay, am no longer using that one again,and here am I. A product of my decision

purem:
Religion is the root of all the wahalas. U Walk into religion u walk into complicated life

Another propaganda

Our fore fathers were never better off back then

Education came to our wahalad country through missionaries

Well, I have not established if the missionaries were colonial masters

What happened to your former thread with the same topic??
Removed

Didov1:
..lol...no...tell me about it...nd why do u think i might be one..?

I won't call it think anyway, I rather use the term "perceive"

Acts27:9 Now when much time was spent, and when sailing was now dangerous, because the fast was now already past, Paul admonished them, 10 And said unto them, Sirs, I perceive that this voyage will be with hurt and much damage, not only of the lading and ship, but also of our lives.

Lemme share you a link.

www.nairaland.com/3884913/intercessors-nigeria

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.


I await your response, one more more thing, I usually ask people for the name of their church to know prevent some further questions, so, let me be straight with ya. How often do you have spiritual experiences.

Like, do you answer "yes" to Acts19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

Many persons get offended when they ask them about the bolded.

enshy:
Obedience is it! No worship without Obedience... No Obedience without Submission... No Submission without Love..

Missed yah bro

adepeter2027:
Hahahaha. Lol, he's the one responding oo
Long time sha

Loooooool, thanks boss

Your absence was felt. Jah bless ya

Didov1:
..No..curious abt something....n pls dnt let us derail d thread.

derail kooo, the thread would accomplish that for which i posted it

do you know what intercession is, and has it caught your attention that you are one

Am sorry to say this, your assignment is to a particular audience. Your assignment is more specific than general, you should know that, FP is not your thing, pls

Toks2008:
No contradiction of any rule out of the 22rules of nairaland and according to the disclaimer at the bottom of every page....
Disclaimer : Every Nairaland member is
solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.

And because of course it will generate huge traffic so YES it is very Frontpage worthy.

Is Nairaland a training ground or a manifestation ground

sir, I think you need to read about about John the baptist, I said something the other time, that your post is not for christians. i don't think you should be seeking front page, rather, spending more hours in prayer and i will be disappointed if this thread get to FP

Toks2008:
I really don't know if lalasticlala will see this front page worthy.

It is a neutral thread and every discussion is based on vivid citations both from the Quran and Bible.No warring.

front page??, do you think so

Didov1:
...ooooh my bad.....no problem,.i will check dat out soon.....have a nice day.

Are you into intercession?

Like in the past