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Akshow:
Nothing. Cos when u die, that's all. No any paradise or hell anywhere.

how sure are you and what evidence do have to back up your claim

Jesus came that we might not perish, you had more than 70 years or more to accept Christ as the Lord and personal saviour, that's like 25550 days to accept Christ and you didn't.

Lemme say this, naturally, every man would perish except God creates a platform by which we can break from the death that came upon man as a result of the fall of man. The only way God could create a platform was to send "Jesus". Jesus was to show us God, how we should live our life for God and finally, Jesus died.

Why must Jesus die. Jesus in Luke 24:27 was explaining to the two men who were travelling to Emanus, how he must need die, using the Old testament and that's profound to note that, that what we have in the Old testament were a picture of Jesus to come. I mean they were prophecies about Jesus. That's why you would see things like, "and it was fulfilled that which was spoken", "that it might be fulfilled" that which was said by Prophet Isaiah and others as the citation may be.

The coming of Jesus had been prophesied since the day Man ate the forbidden fruit. Gen3:15, it says
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Her seed in the sense that, someone would come through the children the woman would give birth to, (Mary of course), and Mary would give birth to a seed(Jesus) and the seed(Jesus) would bruise the head(subdue and overpower the devil.

But how would Jesus subdue, but we must note, that, Man has 100% authority over the earth Gen1:26, Psalms115:16, Heb2:6-8 v8 esp) unless if Man calls to God, then God would answer (Jer33:3, Job22:28) so if you keep quite, God ain't gonna do anything. Man lost his dominion over the whole earth to satan.

Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

And man was the possible person to take it back. So God sent Jesus, so that by the death of Jesus, since every creature that dies was held in hell, Jesus being held in hell likewise, came face to face with Satan and having fulfilled all requirements, he became second Adam, second Adam in the sense that, Jesus had all Adam has lost (the spiritual configuration to overcome the devil) before Adam fell.

Jesus overcame the devil in hell, Jesus was evidently greater than fallen lucifer, the truth is, Jesus raised the dead, cast out devils, evidently, overcoming the devil is quite cheap. On the third day, Jesus rose, having overcome all the works of the devil. At resurrection, Jesus said, all power, I have collected (Luke 4:6, Matt28:18).

Back to our topic, now that Jesus has overcome the devil, the devil does not have dominion over those who would confess that Jesus is their Lord and personal saviour, by doing that, they are indirectly saying, they break from the death that came upon mankind as a result of the fall of man. By so doing, they renounce their connection to the fallen state of man.

So, if you die today, having repented of all your sins, and having lived a life of holiness, a life free of sin by constantly telling the devil that you are no more an object that nurture or entertains sin. By telling the devil that the word said, greater is He that is in me, that whatever is coming against me. By reminding the devil, that you are dead to confessions, how would/why should I who is dead to sin, live therein, and many verses that you paraphrase to remind yourself of your allegiance to God against sin. Then you would be free from negative thoughts, but you must note that temptation comes, but we must constantly pray(esp in tongues) and making faith confessions, studying the word(Bible), giving to the poor, and understanding the believers authority.

www.google.com.ng/search?q=believe+authority+Kenneth+Hagin+pdf&btnG=&client=ms-opera-mini-android&channel=new

paxonel:
op, you can see that rapture can no longer be used to threaten people because it is simply scam, why not start being realistic in your beliefs as a christian and take this life as your home?

scam in what sense?

My idea of rapture is when every one has heard the warning of Noah about the intended flood, and they persistently reject it, by the way, it would be many years after the whole world hears the gospel message, that was why Jesus said, pray that labourers be sent, for the harvest is plenteous and the labourers are few.

I believe many of the World hasn't heard the gospel, so we should be expecting rapture, but we shall all die and stand before the judgement seat to give an account of how we lived on earth, either to suit the fleshy desire we want to enjoy, or we are lived for God, and no one should blame God when he goes to hell, because he had the chance to escape hell by accepting Jesus, the life Jacket

chemystery:
Which Christ? The one the Isrealites denied? The Isrealites are still waiting for thee same god of israel that you profess to to send their Messiah because Jesus didnt fulfil the Messianic prophecies while citing evidence and prophecies from the same bible that christians use.

Strangers now understands the history, people and god of israelites more than the israelites. It is like the whole of the world understanding and arguing Nigerian history against all Nigerians. Isn't that ridiculous?

Their denial of the truth doesn't change anything. Jesus did not come for the Israelite alone, John 3:16 said, for God so love the world, not the Israelite

4lorunsho:
the bible says the word of God is not for private interpretation.

Yes bro, even a lame person should understand the contextual meaning of that verse

chemystery:
According to Matthew 7:13-14

13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

From the data below which enlisted all religion and estimated number of adherents, it is evident Christianity is the MANY the bible is talking about while Rastafarianism is the FEW

the post got me realli weak

There are many proves to the supposed existence of men on earth, like I said, the Bible was written to address the present need of man, so that man might have hope and patience through the Bible.

How do we explain the timing of the earth from the Bible, and does the Bible tells us that the earth is 6000 years or man was 6000 years. Man that was created in the image of God has so far lived 6000 years so far. But what about the earth itself, is the earth really 6000 years like many people think the Bible suggest, oooh, I have an entirely different opinion

If you notice or go through the Bible, I'm trying to make this post as short as possible. The Bible said, inside the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth, meaning, God has existed in eternity, in eternity, there is no time, that's why God would say to Moses, I am sent you. God is always "I am", what God is 5 billion years, that's who God would be in a trillion years. I mean God is always present tense. Nothing like past nor future. So God created "The beginning" for the purpose of the created.

One thing I have come to understand from Rev4:10, there are 24 elders around the throne, the same goes in Gen 6:3, it says, my Spirit shall no more strive with man. I'm beginning to see the purpose behind the creation of man, FELLOWSHIPPING WAS THE PRIMARY REASON GOD CREATED MAN. God said, let US, God is looking for an us with you.

Back to our topic, I might provide so many verses but we must understand that, Gen 1:1 said, in THE BEGINNING, God created the Heaven and Earth, and the earth that was in the beginning was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the WATERS and God said, now, we have assumed that everything I have mention and highlighted all happened in the first day, but you would be so wrong to assume so, because all that God created on the first day was Light, let there be light, and God saw that the light was good, and God separated the light from darkness and that was the first day. We really were not told expressly how water got to the surface of the earth, and God could not have created the earth with darkness and voidness and water upon the surface, that would mean, Gen 1:1 was a lie, God created it, but you would be wrong to assume God created the earth in darkness and soaked the earth in waters-water on the face of the earth.

Note, also this, Ge 1:28 . . . and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: . . .

Lemme tell you what replenish means, to refill or fill again

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/replenish

Okay, you mean man should refill the earth with what has been unfilled, awesome, having established that, you can see that there were Creatures on earth before then that God has recreated and God wants those creatures to refill the earth.

The devil is a spirit, the devil is crafty, I would want to assume satan corrupted the last set of men on earth which might have not really been in the image of God, do you know that, God could have destroyed the earth during the time of Noah if Noah did not find grace before God and God would simply restart again.

Adam was told not to eat, do not cross the BRT lane because of lastma and you crossed, is Ambode now wicked, no, Ambode sent a message out that no one should cross the lane, but you felt well, nothing is going to happen, you are friend with a friend who has no value of life and he's suggesting some thoughts like let's go and rob a bank, you should slap his face right away, because you know the consequence of your action, don't eat, lest you die, and man ate and man died, you might have thought God would never have anything to do with man, but crafty devil kept capitalising on the evil that came from the fruit. God was not threatened by the presence of Lucifer on earth, just as Jesus came to the earth without commuting any sin.

I personally have gotten to a stage where the devil is cheap to handle, I mean so cheap, because when Jesus was tempted, you must realise Jesus was not praying to God to send down angel Michael like some ignoramus. Our words would realise Angels, preferable scriptural verses(Eph6:17, James4:7, Psalms 103:20, Luke 4:4,8,12- notice the word WRITTEN, SAID what said it, the Bible said, I shall live and not die to declare the counsel of God).

God gave Adam enough bullets and canons to handle the devil cheaply, but Adam never use the bullet he had even when he was steering at the thief(satan) face to face, if it were you, a thief cane to your house without cutlass, and those things, and the thief is engaging you in a fraternizing talk, do you shout thief or you just give him a stool and a glass of water, I know you are very nice. You would even tell him to lock the door, when he feels like sleeping.

Back to our topic, we stopped at replenish, finally, God said, Genesis 9:11 . . . neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

From the above verse, God said "any more, there might be a possibility that the reason there was darkness, waters and voidness on the face of the earth was because the earth was recently destroyed by earth and that was before God said, Let there be light

Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Having experienced Gods Love unspeakable and Joy unspeakable, I melt under the presence of His Love and glory which visiteth at my prayer time.

I sincerely wish you could experience God for yourself via a Bible and Living Church

Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north(north pole) over the empty place(space), and hangeth the earth upon nothing.[b]

North pole, and a space around the north pole. North with space around it, that's not flat, its like saying an egg has a continuation around the edges.

Hanging upon nothing, it stands on its own without support

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the [b]circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Circles as how


Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

I don't know what to make out of the word 'to compass'

It should be worth of note that whatsoever thing that were recorded in the Bible was not to prove point to any body, but to build a Christian

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

If everything about Jesus was not fully documented because of the largeness of the account of Jesus only, how big would the Bible be, if it documented the things pertaining to every Character in the Bible, Jesus is the answer, stop looking for answers elsewhere else you would make lot of mistakes.

Deicide:
Is just a question o given the fact that they are so many contradictions in both book I mean as a programmer if you create a program and they are bugs in it you program a patch to fix the bugs ryt and everyone is gonna update ryt? I mean now that our Technology has improved shouldn't this be the right time that God be it the Muslim one or the Christian one should show signs that they actually exist?

what makes you feel the above booksam are corrupt. Kindly provide a justifying prove, else I would see your thread as a misleading one

eezeribe:
Is it your business

sure

1 Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

and as a matter of fact, that's my God given business, #soulwinning is in my gene

Even a muslim knows John3:16, even you seeing that verse, you have unconsciously recited the verse, but there is a mystery in the verse

For God so love, God is Love, that out of that, God gave Jesus for us, that who so ever believe in the saving ability of Jesus, would not perish, lemme hammer on the highlighted,

Why won't they perish, because they neglect the gift that God gave unto them that would deliver them from perishing which is hell

Okay, lemme explain, man from the beginning of the world has been perishing, and for God to stop the perishing state of man, God had to send Jesus, Jesus commanded His disciples to preach the gospel in the outermost part of the earth to prevent people from further perishing.

God should have destroyed the earth during Noah's day, I mean, wipe the slate clean and start afresh, but Noah was said to have found grace before God, that's deep, because am seeing Jesus in the picture, but lemme continue, yea, grace is Jesus, just a clue though.

Because of Noah(Jesus) God saw someone that could help stop wickedness, so Noah went out preaching (this dispensation), saying there would be a rain coming(rapture) and whoever does not want to drown(perish), should get into the Ark(Be born again), and they all refused.

You see dear, you have that last opportunity to get into the Ark(be born again), so when the day come when the wicked shall be destroyed, you shall not be found wanting, if I were right, you have lived over 18 years and more on earth, and you sure have more years to go, the question is, you have the opportunity to repent now like Noah told those people back then, but because of the hardness of their heart, they perished.

The thing is, if people later go to hell, who is to plan, the person(God) who brought a life Jacket(Jesus) to Rose(you) who said she could have died because the captain (Adam and Eve, our earthly forefathers) who drawn this ship(earth and humanity in it). Okay, its won't be no longer Gods fault when He sends Jesus to save us from perishing, and we chose to hang on to a piece of log when there is an ark that can provide for our weakness, pls repent and come back to God.

Note: Jesus wants to reconcile you to God(2corin5:19); Jesus prevails; Jesus Cares; Jesus calls you to repentance.

Tearless:
"I don't really know how everything came to be" than claim that it was all the handiwork of a supernatural being who doesn't love goat meat per se, but revels in the aroma of goat blood,

Genesis 18:1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; 18:7 And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it. 18:8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.

God eat meat

Tearless:
demands worship

Isaiah 43:21 This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise.
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Tearless:
slavish obedience for no reason

We are created to serve God just as a broom is designed to sweep, it was the natural nature of man, its sin that brought about man seeking for desires outside God. The consequence of Adams sin was that everyone who comes to earth, naturally goes to hell, its automatic. We ought to be grateful God sent Jesus so we can escape hell which every man is subjected to

Hebrews 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

Jesus died that we might not be bond again to the devil through bondage that Adam passed on mankind.
pls see 1 Corinthians 15:21

God doesn't send people to hell, hell is the consequence of the bondage that came on mankind as a result of the eating of the forbidden fruit, and abiuttge forbidden fruit, it was in mans agenda that man should eat it, but the time man ate it was wrong

OLAADEGBU:
Why did Abraham banish Ishmael (Genesis 21:14)? What was the source of the conflict between Abraham, Sarah, Hagar, and Ishmael?

There are many reasons for that,

1. Haggai and Ishmael were not in the plan of God for Abraham
2. Haggai was a slave, a slave can't partake of any inheritance
3. Abraham in quest to proof his fertility to Sarah went. in with Haggai
4. God promised Abraham a nation, a nation from his wife Sarah
5. It was a picture of things to come. Paul said, to Abraham and the seed, even though the seed was not Isaac, the seed would come through Isaac, that seed is Jesus. Gen3:15, A picture that anyone who does not accept Christ, God would not regard them as a son, and they remain bond, even if you are an Israelite, because we are no more bond nor free, Yoruba or Igbo, Ibibio or Hausa, in Christ Jesus, we are one.

Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Genesis 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.

Galatians 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Gal 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Yea, why did Abraham banish Ishmael, Abraham banished him because Sarah wanted it.

CatfishBilly:
Let the mental gymnastics begin!!!!!!

chill bro, the man above has answered the question

To further clear unnecessary doubts,

Ge 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

Cain marry one of those