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The biggest criminals in Nigeria, in no particular order are:
*Fashola
* Tinubu
* Rochas
* Amaechi
* Aregbesola
* Oyinsola
* El rufai
* Tambuwal
* Masari
* Ajumobi
* Fayemi
* APC members and supporters

OrlandoOwoh:
Once a girl is no longer minor, when whether or not she consents holds no water, whatever sèxual intercourse she has is consensual provided there is no evidence or torn cloths and bruises.

As I wrote earlier, go and read up on past law cases involving rape, period

OrlandoOwoh:
You don't have an indept knowledge of the legal definition of rape. Beyond väginal penetration, the victim should be able to show evidence of torn cloths and bruises on her body. Did she shout for the members of University community to know she was being raped or it's her father that blew it up when she told him at home?

Go and read up on law cases involving rape. Torn clothes and a battered body is not the only confirmation of rape. So many cases involve a scenario of both individuals having their clothes on. Go and force a woman into performing a sexual act and then tell the police she had her clothes on and there are no physical marks on her. You will land faster in jail than you can say APC.

OrlandoOwoh:
Since it's consensual, the lecturer, in my opinion, has no question to answer since the girl is no longer a minor.

As is the case with all your posts, you are once again way off key with your analysis. Where in the article does it prove the act was consensual. Rape was strewn over the entire article, so I can't for the love of God understand how you deduced that aspect. Your testosterone got the better of you and so you thought it best to believe it is the girls fault, she must have wanted it. That's what most men want to believe and it is what must be discouraged if our society wants to evolve and be rightly said to be civilised

I would advice Co-debaters to stay away from this thread. Its obvious the OP just wants traffic on this thread. He is just trying to play the Devils advocate so as to get replies. He does this from time to time. Always posting anti-Biafra threads when he doesn't give two cents about if Biafra is lunacy or a reality. But since the Biafra story has died down, he is now trying any other controversial topics that will cause feedback. Please ignore him, its what the likes of him deserve for they have no respect for what Nairaland stands for.

This is typical of the OP.Always talking about things he has refused to research on. Let me enlighten you, the first thing in rape analogy is "No means No". It doesn't matter if the girl precipitated the action or led him on, all that matters is if at the point of penetration, she withdrew from the action or indicated her reluctance. Once she says no and you continue without her consent, such action constitutes RAPE. Also it is normal for girls at the point of rape to freeze and blank out their mind. This happens about 90% of the time. The fear of facing the reality of rape would force them to withdraw into a subconscious shell inorder to pass through the ordeal. This action is involuntary and so can't be turned on or off. Also FYI: she displayed all the characteristics of a rape victim: unusual quietness, change in behavioural pattern, withdrawn personality and so many others. This is in no way a case of blackmail or retribution. The lecturer is just trying to be clever. He probably has done this so many times and had gotten away with it because of the experience and nature of the other victims. The recent victim is the first virgin and so why the turn of his luck. Please read up on rape before helping the lecturer get off the hook because of your subconscious misogynistic nature

After the unprepared and shoddy account given by Mr Etim of the DSS at the senate hearing this week, its obvious the DSS has become the president's GESTAPO. The fact that the DSS now intends to do the job of the EFCC, is ludicrous and out of order. If they have any shred of integrity left, they had better stick to the code book of the DSS and really abide by the guidelines Mr Daura stated in the interview

To be fair, it would take sometime to thoroughly investigate the persons listed. But to be frank, there is no list of oil thieves given to us by the US. What methodology or instruments were used in ascertaining who qualifies as an oil thief. When were the investigations launched . what was the scope of investigation: some oil thieves only operate in lagos, relying on channels with links to the Delta. What was the duration of the surveillance program on the oil thieves. This and many more are the questions we need to pose to the government in order to stop them from playing on our intelligence

If the OP knew a bit about Production/Industrial economics he wouldn't come on this platform and write about something he technically knows nothing about

The OP claimed to be informed but in actual sense is so far off the mark. If the OP was truly enlightened he would have known that the petroleum marketers scenario prior to GEJ was a monopolistic market and as such was a market which had the government and Nigerians under its hold. If the OP knew this salient piece of information he would have realised that the only way to battle such a market would be to break it's barriers of entry by infiltrating and increasing the number of marketers. NOI and Diezani knew this and so helped in reducing the increasing spate of fuel scarcity which plagued the administration of OBJ. Flash back to the Ifeanyi ubah's early disruption of the fuel marketers manufactured fuel scarcity that happened prior to inauguration day and you will see the brilliance of GEJ. The huge cost of subsidy payment was the unfortunate side effect of the manoeuvre

Aren't they any channels of communication that exist between the nation's defence forces. All that is needed to relax nerves is just a phone call from the commandant of signal barracks to the AIG and this would be resolved. After which there should be an investigation into what actually transpired and then proper punishment meted out to the indicted parties

barcanista:
I shook my head when I saw the press release of the APC calling PMb as the real Niger-Deltan for doing NOTHING

Precisely, when I read it I thought it was a satire or something like that. How could a mere policy statement be taken as the actual policy itself. The APC need to step up or it will become a dispensation of comedy

cheruv:
The French had to do that in 1789 so quit whinnying bro!

The French did it in 1789- 1799 and ended up with the year of terror by Robespierre and the madness of Napoleon

Thanks for giving another angle on this baseless claim by the APC. On another thread this debate was put up for discussion and on it I read a lot of nursery rhymes from best readers of wikipedia who have a comprehension problem. The APC can best be described by Mr Huckabee's perception of Hillary Clinton which he gave out last night at the republican debate

EasternLion:
He should be shot dead with his own rifle as well, na wetin sef.

Justice delayed is not justice denied. We should never descend to the level of barbarians and animals to get justice

People justice is wrong, the officer involved should be apprehended and handed over to the police after which he should be tried by a court of law. And if found guilty, should be dutifully punished as an example to other future offenders.

This government is intent on insulting the sensibilities of Nigerians. Everyday one joke or the other as policies but surprisingly he has no ministers to oversee this fair weather policies

Lakeland4321:
Are you not aware of the UNEP report, it has done all you have mentioned and more.the IOC's indicted will fund the clean up that is why the entire SS is stupified why GEJ did not order it. No wonder amaechi abandoned that ship long ago

I have read the report and it is bogus. The report gives the indicted OMNC's a slap on the wrist. They will only pay a penance to the community which will never get to the affected individuals but rather will be squandered by community leaders. GEJ was no fool and so after proofreading the report put it where it belongs, the trashcan. PMB on the other hand without going through the report relied on social media like yourself and approved it. GEJ's government was about improving local content in the OMNC's and getting Nigerian's to clean up the mess and really reprimanding dubious characters be they local or foreign.
Amaechi left because he was being pushed out. He actually played a fast one on people like you, just like Sanusi. The joke was really on you

I burst into laughter when I read Mr Etim's sorry excuse to allegations of abuse of power by the DSS. So because a petitioner warned that they would take matters into their own hands concerning the release of electoral materials the DSS rushed to imprison INEC officials so as to placate the special petitioner. What a joke. What happened to the presiding judge handling the case. Couldn't he have subpoenaed the officials after which he could have jailed them for contempt of the court. Couldn't the DSS had through the INEC chairman Mrs Zakari, liased with the staff to release the materials . This is just a nursery rhyme intended for kids. Its a shame that the new DSS head is unaware of the powers of the media and how information is easily sourced from agencies. Mr Lawal better step up his game or he will be left to public ridicule and embarrassing scandals

Ovamboland:
So una plenty like Jonathan for this country, so after the UNEP report you need another committee to re-study the report and another one to recommend a recommendation on the outcome of the inquiry until the report gathers enough dust and end up in trash can.

Wake up dude, Jona is no longer in power

It was comments like this that had us accepting controversial conditionalities put in by the IMF concerning the SAP policy. At the end of the day we ended up crashing our economy and killing the industrial sector
You guys didn't learn from Jona the fact that only Nigerian's can build Nigeria. But thanks to PMB we are now giving out our country free of charge to foreign desperadoes and fairweather journeymen

Mynd44:
As usual, can't discuss by yourself so you call your squad to come help you out....

You will be alright las las

Teamwork builds a nation while individuality and solo play kills it.
You guys need to get yourselves organised in order to put across effectively your opinion of the government's policies

0702539360:
Didn't you read that the cleanup was based on UNEP report and the recommendation given, don't you think that the report given by UNEP would have taken into account all this things you just highlighted.please read well before you comment.

You probably didn't do project analysis in school. The UNEP report will have been conducted based on standards and according to situations encountered in societies who have been victims of such. They will have ignored the salient effects on Ogoni people. Its like an external perspective of what to do, instead of from a Nigerian's standpoint of what are the true causes and what are the proper steps that should be taken to nip this ugly occurrence in the bud. Do u think they would have put in their literature review, excerpts from the works of Nigerian researches who have openly criticized the OMNC's on their abuse of regulations and flagrant disregard of the government's statues and codes.
Also back in college I did a study on The Empirical analysis of the Petroleum Industry, despite the fact that others have done so in the past. That did not stop me from conducting my own study and giving my own solutions to the menace. So why shouldn't a new enquiry be set up and this time be done on our own terms.

erinalex:
we're not saying PMB has done anything spectacular. But before u start abusing me,just enumerate how gej in his 5yrs reign helped the course of Ogoni people. Will ogoni people remember Obj & Gej for good? Like i said earlier,u can answer me ,without being abusive. What PMB did is a right step,which must be built upon,for it to see the light of d day.Good afternoon

First and foremost, I have never subjected a co- debater on this forum to ridicule. I might make snappy comments, but I will not insult someone directly. Its not in my makeup to do so. My system is to offer constructive, clear and precise opinions of a informed citizen, on the ideological standpoints and policies of both sides of the divide, nothing more.
Second, GEJ was the president of the federal republic of Nigeria, not the senate or house of reps member representing that constituency. It was his job to govern the whole of the republic not Ogoni land alone. If you want to cast aspersions against someone for the deplorable state of Ogoniland, start first with the LGA's, then move to the upper and lower house representatives, after which you then move to the Govenor, before you can then skip NEMA and all other institutions involved, to hit at the president
The notion that because PMB made a comment without going through proper channels and delegating it to the ministries involved is just playing to the gallery. Something this administration seems to enjoy doing
Finally I will relate this to what Mike Huckabee, republican presidential aspirant, said last night in relation to Clinton's bid " This campaign has been about someone who inspite of being at the top of the polls has no idea on what to do and even when the opportunity was presented to them failed to lead
PMB, so far has no clue on what to do, and so far has been playing polo with the people's intelligence.

MrMcJay:
A baby just took its first step and you are complaining that it isn't running already.

Jonathan never instituted an inquiry, never mentioned the problem not to talk of thinking of a solution.
Of all the committees GEJ set up, can u mention any that he adopted their recommendations?

A good head needs no committees to think. Unlike GEJ, PMB needs no committees to know his job. Gerrit?

So we should now skip experiments and move immediately to propounding laws. Good one, why don't we just forget about elections and just give him a lifetime presidency ticket

The APC can drown in their concocted illusion. They should accept the supposed Greek gifts from mama peace. They are on their own

Funny, he gave an order and all of a sudden he is the best thing since hot bread. Who is going to do the cleanup, the flagrant OMNC's who caused the spillage and degradation of Ogoni land or the ineffectual NEMA. The APC should stop playing to the gallery and start facing facts. The proper thing to do would have been to order an enquiry into who caused the spillage, the causes of the spillage and recommendations on how to stop further spillages from happening. But alas, the APC has cowardly jumped all steps to avoid a confrontation with the OMNC's who abuse and pollute our environment without a regard for our wellbeing. This action makes him a public nuisance and community clown, not a respected son of society

hotwax:
Well...if no need for opposition. Then APC will take the country for a long time ride

If you don't understand the bolded sentence. Then there is nothing that can be said

Dictator, liar, Unethical, melodramatic, prima Donna, incompetent, psychotic. This are the adjectives and nouns that define the sorry excuse for an actor called SANUSI

hotwax:
I think its PDP that should go to the drawing board to strategize on how to be an opposition. Else, Nigerians will just see them as noise makers.

You are mistaken, because no one expects much from opposition elements. The spotlight is left for the full glare of the party in power. So PDP don't have to do much. All they have to do is wait and capitalise on any mistakes made by the APC. Its not rocket science to play in the opposition field but its harder than quantum physics to survive in the spotlight

This is already an affirmed story. Its normal for despots to hand out key positions in the government to friends and family members so as to secure their autocratic hold on the people. Buhari has simply taken out of the Dictators text book, an old tactic on how to hold on to power. Look at the two positions he assigned to his family members. The head of the electoral body and the head of the national security agency. All that is left for him to do is to rig elections and prior to that terrorise all influential threats. We are simply witnessing the birth of an overlord. But if he thinks he will be successful in this 21st century and age, then he is mistaken .If he is not cateful , he will end up spending the rest of his life in the Hague for war crimes and mass murder.

barcanista:
It is only in Nigeria a ruling party will be "rating" opposition performance as "opposition". In fact, APC is the only ruling party to rate opposition party. This is another testament that APC is the ruling-opposition. They are opposing the "opposition" PDP instead of ruling.

Btw: APC is feeling the heat

The strategy by the APC to convince the people to accept totalitarian rule, by trumpeting the supposed weakness of the opposition is an outdated one. They had better go back to the situation room and put their heads together to brainstorm on new effective ideas. This one is simply DOA

hotwax:
You are not getting the point. PDP performing is not good for the country.

We need a good opposition. A reasonable one. No noise makers.

FYI, I dont pray PDP fails as opposition. I want them to be there and proactive.

The opposition's performance will be appreciated or rebuked by the electorate and not you. You are a singular entity in a large pool of people so this can be attributed as your opinion. There have been no polls, to the best of my knowledge, that has been conducted to appraise the ratings of all the political parties. So therefore no one knows yet if PDP is lagging behind or hitting a home run. Let the people decide and don't try to speak for them