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shymexx: Brother, that's you and your skewed mentality...

If you're a victim of circumstance and you discover that you could earn £500 a night by dancing on a pole, rather than working all day in the office, just to earn £90 - I bet you'd do the same thing... That's hustling 101!

What do you know about being intelligent?

Yes, there are some who are there because they HAVE NO OPTION/ another MEANS, like those sold into it by traffickers e.t.c, but we all know majority of them are bimbos and no sugarcoating. you can find exceptions like i said but that occupation is mostly for bimbos no matter how you want to dribble the issue.

shymexx: You judge people based on the content of their character and how they can articulate their opinions...What they do outside those two qualities shouldn't be used as a premise to judge what they have got up there... Some people are just victims of circumstance, however, that doesn't negate their ability to think critically and intelligently...

If they can think critically and intelligently, is working as a stripper the best thought they could come up with? what is intelligence again? mind reminding me?

There's nothing intelligent about a stripping job, there are exceptions but i believe 99.9% are bimbos , any bimbo can do this.

[quote author=*Kails*]I am A-S3xual. [/quote]So you don't have interest in intimacy? hmmm too bad your life must be boring

shymexx: More intelligent than 99.9% of the posters on nl...

99.9% yet they work as strippers?

Dancing and selling your unclothedness for a piece of coin has no iota of intelligence in it.
Maybe prostitution is also for intelligent minds.

[quote author=*Kails*]No simply because some strippers are given extra dollars to perform "extra" favors.
I am not trying to catch any diseases.

Besides how could I hold my head high knowing my guy is having money thrown at him, and fondled?


NOOOO WAY![/quote]Today you're a woman, tomorrow a man, you are confusing.

Strippers and intelligence in the same sentence?

Not surprised.

nitlad: Lol...
You are clearly confused... Lol
Why should I believe what's on that page? Cos that clown assigned the roles in football? Lol
Thanks, but I want to believe wiki's description and that of the RM official website more than that clown's.
That clown is no authority in footballing matters mate. Next time you want to post a link post that of a credible and authoritative analyst. You really have to stop taking that clown seriously.
P.S. Even you clown analyst didn't dare call Xabi Alonso a 4/DM. He had to twist his description and analysis of him to suit the purpose of his article.

My last comment to you, i sent you 2 different websites out of thousands out there, you can believe whatever you want to believe. Even if you believe Alonso is a goal-keeper, it's your choice.

Enjoy.

nitlad: Ok.. Alonso na 4. Infact, Makelele nor fit mark reach am.
Happy now?

Help yourself, get some education before it's too late

http://worldsoccer.about.com/od/players/tp/Ten-Of-The-Best-Defensive-Midfielders-In-The-World.htm
http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/world/lists/power-rankings-top-defensive-mids-world-soccer-professional-club-international-070712#tab=photo-title=Xabi+Alonso%252C+Real+Madrid%252FSpain&photo=31184094

nitlad: Oh Gawd!
Xabi Alonso nor be 4! He has never been!
At Liverpool he was more of a CM, with Dietmar Hamann and latterly Mascherano being the DMs, at Real Madrid he is a deep lying playmaker, the engine room, the one that makes the team tick with Sami Khedira the battler/enforcer just like Arturo Vidal does for Pirlo.

, What is he? a goalkeeper? if he's not a 4, what is he then? a Central midfielder like Xavi you mean? you must be in lalaland. A DM is also a midfielder playing in the middle, most midfielders play in the middle but different jobs are given to them.

In Liverpool, he was their DM, while Gerrad was their AM/CM, sometimes CF. in R. Madrid, he plays as their DM too because Madrid uses 2 DM most of the time (Alonso and Khadira), so what are you saying now? Ozil plays as their AM/OM.

caukerzee: you lie mate. barca vs vallecano ces started ahead of iniesta in his role. iniesta on the bench. barca vs deportivo xavi on the bench ces started. barca vs osasuna?

And so what? what are you driving at? because i don't understand your point here, are you saying Cesc on a good day would be picked ahead of Iniesta or what are you saying?

cheddarking: The Exact same can be said about Ronaldo

He is captain of his national side as well as its talisman. He does most of the forward play and his exclusion leaves a hole to be filled.


Stick to comparing them in a La Liga Setting. That is where both can be assessed against similar benchmarks.

Is this thread for Ronaldo or Messi? wetin concern me with Ronaldo na? when he breaks his own record or is being compared with the likes of Maradona/Pele, then we can discuss him.

cheddarking: Schweinsteiger is NOT a '4'

If you watch Bayern Play....you would know that LUIS GUSTAVO is the '4' in that team. GUstovo or Tymoshuk play as their 4's

Bastian plays as a CM attacking and defending

I would continue discussing with you...but you know nothing about football...

Maybe i was too rigid with his position, he's played based on these qualities "Dynamic, energetic and direct" Gustavo does the cover up for him just like the case of Khadira and Alonso, when one goes forward, the other covers. Tymoshuk is more in the offensive than these other 2.

It's easy to say "you know nothing about football" but your comparison from the previous quote sold you out. all in all, let's return to the issue on ground, Messi can perform anywhere, he's the captain of his country national side and the current leader in the goal scoring position/assists. he does most of the forward play for the team and his exclusion always leaves a hole to be filled.

cheddarking: What are you saying? Ronaldo cant perform anyday?

My post is not about Ronaldo performing or not, Ronaldo is not the issue here and i don't have time to discuss him. Messi's the issue here.

BTW, i think we have derailed, may have to clean up soon.

nitlad: Dude you are mixing a whole lotta things up here.
To begin with, your concept of player comparism is warped and flawed.
First get it straight that football is a revolving game, the position of the number 4 as it used to be is not the same as it is now.
Claude Makelele is arguably the last player to fulfil that role in the true sense of it (you could make a case for John Obi Mikel, but even he is changing his game lately).
I'll group the players you mentioned into the roles they actually play in the football of today.
Yaya Toure and Arturo Vidal are not standing 4s but battling box - box kind of players.
Bastian Schweinsteiger and Miguel Veloso are Central Midfielders akin to Xavi Hernandez and Paul Scholes.
Only Xabi Alonso and Andrea Pirlo (and to an extent Danielle De Rossi and PSG's Marco Veratti) play the role of a deep lying play maker in football today.

Are you trying to shift the goal-post ni? so Alonso is the standing 4 and these other players are not standing 4, they are battling box? hehehehe wonders! Because Yaya goes forward more, he's no longer a standing 4? let me burst your bubble, Khadira plays the role of 4 more for Madrid than Alonso. you want to argue this?

Bastian is now a CM. bros me jor o, because he goes more forward does not make him a CM, Alonso does the same thing as Bastian, does this mean Alonso is also a CM?

You are trying to give these players new positions that don't exist in the traditional football positions. depending on the formation the coach is to play, a 4 can play as a CM, that does not make him a CM. so stop trying to hide flaws in long sermon.

caukerzee: i wonder if it was my comment you read or you mistakely replied this comment or you simply cant read. i never said ces is better than xavi and iniesta, i only replied the comment that said ces can never start ahead of xavi or iniesta. and i also clearly stated that theres no player in alonsos position that plays that role better than he does. you should read well next time mate.

You're the one who's not getting anywhere with your argument, before Cesc can be picked ahead of Xavi or Iniesta, it must be that there's a case of injury to these 2 or he's to play a striking role, you should know what to argue on. don't get all dirty, learn to be civil okay? i don't want to modify anyone's post.

dorothy111: Viera, Makeleli, Wanyanma, Gastovo are all black. Race doesn't change a thing. Alonso won't sit on da bench for anyone in any team. He is different! Yaya was chased out of Barcelona by Busquest.

LOL, gosh!, Yaya was chased out by Busquez or he was getting big-headed? lol..

cheddarking: Yes it IS.

The Ronaldo v Messi Argument is set in the Liga BBVA

Both of them are the two most outsanding players in that league playing for the two most outstanding clubs.

Messi's exploits with |rgentina are irrelevant to this discussion as there is no base for comparison.

Messi is South American and Ronaldo European, and as such the quality of opponents they meet are very different when they pull on their national jerseys.

Keep the argument relevant.

Now can you see why i dropped my comment?

honeric01: I guess Xavi-Iniesta-Fabregars-Busquets are also in the current Argentine squad, when last did you watch Messi in Argentina's color?

honeric01: My point is stirring at you from your previous response.

Messi is the current leader (assists and goals) in the Argentine squad (current).

Meaning, Messi is a great player with or without Xavi and Iniesta, he can perform any given day.

nitlad: Lol
Xabi Alonso an above average player?... I dey laff o...
Seeing the kinda players you are comparing him to, its obvious you are not as versed in football as you are making out to be.

Because Yaya is black, you've obviously gotten blinded by what he brings to ANY team he plays in? Yaya Toure remains the best 4 out there, both in Barca and in Man city, he's showing his worth.

You don't know who Vidal is because you only watch EPL i guess. The image of Alonso in EPL is still what you have in your memory, not his current value in La liga.

Either do you know Bastian.

Another is Veloso.

Well then, why am i disturbing myself?

cheddarking: Who are you? and where have you come from?

and WHY are you quoting me?

Some one said this:



I then replied with this:



And you're coming to talk about Argentina??

With your ronaldo swapping position comment, what were you trying to achieve?

Meaning, it's the midfield of Barca that's helping Messi's play? if this is not what you're driving at, please enlighten me.

caukerzee: you know nothing mate!i have seen about three games this season where ces started ahead of xavi or iniesta. i am a barca fan, but at the moment, theres no player better than alonso in his position at the moment.

LOL, so because he started ahead of them in 3 matches, he's now what? better?
Being a Barca fan does not mean you no zilch about class.
There's no 4 better than Alonso right now? , this is what happens when you see only one farm, you need to watch random matches ok?

dorothy111: The Liverpool team that won Milan at Istanbul was controlled by xabi
The same team made it to the final the next year. Common, yaya toure to Alonso, the current Madrid team won't function without xabi, even the Spanish national team dare not start him

Hehehehe, so it was Alonso that won it?

When Senna was still playing, did you hear anything about Alonso? even Busquet can bench Alonso in the current national squad. Real Madrid is known for power play so Alonso is likely going to mean alot to them but not the national team.

BTW, what brought us to this? i thought you said 90% of the world-class players are not la liga products?

cheddarking: And this is relevant to this discourse how?

We were comparing CR7 to Messi, and by extension the Real Madrid Midfield to Barcelona's...

How is your point relevant to this dicourse?

Don't you think you're the one bringing in irrelevant discuss into this? go and check who brought in the midfield comparison. the mirror is there.

Seewealth: dont mock your leaders. it is unpatriotic. there are 2 many things to use for jokes.

English!

cheddarking: And your point is?

My point is stirring at you from your previous response.

Messi is the current leader (assists and goals) in the Argentine squad (current).

dorothy111: Just mention a player currently better than Alonso in his position and I will tell you his statistics

Alonso is not better than Yaya
Alonso is not better than Vidal
Alonso is in the same level with Toulahan (wrong spelling)
Alonso is in the same level with Bayern's 4. (can't remember his long name)

There are other 4 out there that are in the same range with Alonso, being a 4 is not so special because most CB can play that position VERY well. so let's move ahead.

cheddarking:

Alexis-Pedro-Tello are not the primary creative force at the Nou Camp.

They play a similar role to Di-maria-Benzema-Ronaldo

I reitirate...

Put Ronaldo in front of Xavi-Iniesta-Fabregars-Busquets and see him treble his goal tally!

I guess Xavi-Iniesta-Fabregars-Busquets are also in the current Argentine squad, when last did you watch Messi in Argentina's color?

dorothy111: The point is, La liga buy players just like EPL. Also, 90% of world best from la liga are not a product of la liga

90% of the world class players in La liga are not la liga products? how did you arrive at 90%? and can you name the whole world class players in la liga so we can dissect?

dorothy111: Football is about time and era.

Cese grew up in Assnal, Piqué made Barca first team immediately He returned to Spain. Xabi Alonso was also breed in EPL

The players you mentioned were kids then, they couldn't have benched those playing their positions then, even till now, Cesc still can't bench Xavi or Iniesta both in Barcelona and Spain. Xabi Alonso is never a world class player and would never be one, he's just an above average player, there are numerous 4 out there that can match him in all ramification so this.

nitlad: Ok... Well Yaya Toure and Aguero are no products of La Liga too. Are they?

Another childish answer. is it hard to mention one EPL product that's making wave?

vire: God is not interested in our money....but he is more interested in bringing his word to us.....a sex worker who pays tithe has started receiving the word of God into her life....once she continues this way she will eventually be saved

Tithe paying is for the Jews and those who practice Judaism.

Generous giving and unforced giving is for Christians and what Jesus Christ advocated.

nitlad: Oh yeah... He became a world beater while in Portugal

Give us a product of the EPL that's making wave and stop this childish argument.