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We no say make the rest no buy who dem wan buy, afterall, Taiye taiwo, Etuhu still remain, and even Shittu dey

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Odunnu:
Are you game for it now?Lets see behind abeg?

Mama, i am on, LTNC, where have u been?

lysaa:
Mods have section? Damn! what do i know!

I'm not one neither am I interested. LOL

oic, its okay then.

Imagine? this is what i tell those i love that they should never expect anything from any Nigerian games because it has brought more sadness to people than good of recent, why die for another person who's gaining either win or lose?

An SE draw is a + to me, because "blessed is a Nigerian that has no expectation from the SE for he shall never be disappointed"

Jencejyde:
From the above sentence in bold, it seems some of the players already realized that Amodu was not competent enough. Problem is why did anyone not try to raise an alarm to the situation. Obviously most of these guys play under more Established coaches week in week out. It would not be hard for them to figure that out but the F.A, (God help us from politics and GREED) What were they thinking?

Yet most of them sit on the bench in their various clubs, does that mean they have not been able to LEARN anything from their club's coaches? does that mean they are SLOW to learn or that they are BLOCKHEADS?

[quote author=na_so link=topic=455866.msg6147189#msg6147189 date=1275595098]Do you see players though registered but cant make first team in the UCL?

Portuguese league is a more skillful league than french league and if he could not make a single appearance in an average club in france, then ma guy i no get hope say the guy go even see bench for portugal.[/quote]Then why was he bought in the first place? to make up numbers or what?

Scantee, we cool, hope ya doing good?

I can't remember, but it should be within this year. (tnx)

but ya's a mod too right? ya should have seen my post on the mod section.

snakova:
After Greece and Korea, e be like say you would return to the sabbatical you took when Amodu wounded your pride. Its all in 7 days.

That is what we want to see, but not just that, we must not struggle to win, either should we score just 1 goal and then defend for the rest of the game, Largerback should improve the team and DO WHAT AMODU COULDN'T DO. then i will salute and accept that WE DIDN'T THROW AWAY $200,000 PER MONTH.

Moyoyoyoyoyla.

medjai:
Etuhu was our worst player against Argentina and he is the one making noise. Yakubu that was decent is quiet, perhaps thinking of how he will improve in our next game. without Etuhu in Fulham there's a Jonathan Greening. Etuhu started just 21 games and made 5 substitute appearances for Fulham in a season where they played close to 50 games in both the EPL and Europa League. So much for an indispensable player

Imagine the player talking, the most sluggish 4 you can ever dream of, can't shoot, can't run, sucks when it comes to passing and lacks football sense. rubbish!

I no blame am, na because we no get vision, thats why his likes dey National team.

deb:
I now understand that you are related to Amodu but how much did he pay you for the PR?
He's the worst coach on planet earth and you cannot change that opinion of him from us.
Since his sack no country has made an attempt to hire him not even Tanzania? He was only good enough for azzholes in the Nigerian FA

Just because he doesn't think the way you think, he's automatically related to Amodu?

U need prayers.

And i hope you already know why Amodu can't seek a job outside the NFF for now?

Next time, learn before typing.

dayokanu:
Amodu won Bronze despite having Okocha, kanu, Ikpeba, Oliseh, Aghahowa, ike Shorounmu, Yobo, Finidi in the team? He deserves tyo be shot

Did you watch Mali 2002? That was one of the worst Super Eagles performance at par with vs Zambia coincidentally both coached by Amodu

Didn't the Oyimbos before him have same access to these players too?

Philippe Troussier should be shot too right?
Monday Sinclar  should be shot too right?
And also Bora Milutinović?
How about Thijs Libregts?
Not forgeting Johannes Bonfrere, he left us dry in the sun after almost crashing us out from qualifying for 2002 worldcup and guess what? HE WAS WHITE TOO and till today, he's been celebrated as one of our best because he won us the Olympics.

And then Berti Vogts should be shot and beheaded for giving us the worse Nations cup performance in a decade.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=461963.msg6215172#msg6215172 date=1276542062]And under the same Amodu, Nigeria went as low as 27th in the world at a time.
Westerhof attained 5TH in the world. . . .[/quote]Go and check where we were under Amodu, we were 15th in the world.

Under another Oyinbo Vogts, he almost took us way back to 87.

Dis Guy:
Pillars failure to get points away from home cost them!!
Afonja warriors for african tickets oya Honeric where da money wey we bet 
bayelsa played three games in five days? 
i think they need to tune their calendar well well everyone in the world's finish playing only in nigeria, i bet the NPL officials are even out of the country already as part of the 14 committees
Kwara 6-0 R Bees 
so how many players scored a hat trick this season?

Well, your boys are trying sha, as for Pillars, they brought this upon themselves so they should dance to the tune.

NPL and NFF are as clueless as a cat trying to know why it's got a tail. bet me, none of them is at home looking after the league.

dayokanu:
Amodu has never been good for the national team

Tell me what well Amodu has performed in his history of coaching Nigeria

If you dont know let me enlighten you

In 1995 despite having the most talented pool of footbalers Nigeria has ever had I can only remember winning vs Japan at the Riyadh cup.

In 2002, He lost in the Nations cup semi finals(Not on penalties) despite that the opponents played with 10 men for close to 90 minutes

Now i know your likes, hate has belittle your sense of reasoning, i think i need to stop debating you because someone who could say something like this should be discarded. Did westaholf win all his games as a Nigerian coach? i hope you remembered some of the worse results we got as a Nigeria was under Westaholf? i hope you do, if not, then you're deceiving yourself and i should stop debating you.

deb:
Why hasn't any country considered Amodu to take over their natonal team if he is such a superb coach?
Not even Tanzania?

He cannot join any club or country now because he's still under contract with the NFF, you should know this. he can't sign any external contract until August.

tkb417:
lemme help you with simple english

what is the opposite of apprentice?

if you know the answer, respond and tell me how Pep fits into the opposite in the year he won 6 tophies

You do not know what Apprentice mean? check your dictionary and stop acting like you understand English.

If you call Pep an apprentice, then you shouldn't be here talking about football.

if Pep is considered an apprentice to you, then what is Maradona?

What's the difference between Pep and Maradona since you do not know what apprentice stands for.

HNIC:
I was about answering some of the shocking statements you made, but i see justice has been done to it.
Ask yourself, we've had a legion of Naija coaches,  . . . .
Our finest moments in footie has always been with foreign coaches.

What are the shocking statements i made that you feel are  wrong?

We have had Nigerian coaches likewise foreign coaches, the only coach that really did something for us than Amodu was Phillipe Troussie, Bonfre Jo, And Westerhof and these people were not given the hard treatments Amodu got, and they were also given time to perform.
All these coaches lost a lot of matches too and gave us bad results, didn't they? why is Amodu's own different? is it because he's black or you just HATE him?

The latter was given a whopping uninterrupted 5 years before he made any positive mark on the SE so always put that in mind.

All our local coaches, Amodu remains the best of them all because he has achieved more than any other Nigerian coaches so far with Nigeria.

dayokanu:
This is a shocking statement from a follower of international football. A coach won the Euro cup in 1996 and you are aking how many years?

Guus Hindick last won the Champions League in 1988, The mighty Fabio Capello last won the CL in 1994, Louis Van Gaal last won the Champions league in 1995 This is a tournament thats played every year compared to national team that only play once every two years. When was the last time Arsene Wenger won a European trophy and why is he regarded as a top rated coach.

Nothing concern you about his record with Germany but you are concerned about his records with Scotland.

A coach is good as his last result must mean there is only one goog coach in EPL cos only one team won the league, There is only one good coach in the Bundesliga as well as other leagues too

Now remove 1996 from 2008, then do the math, how many years?
Tell me what else you remember Berti Vogts for.
After that we go continue with Berti Vogts issue okay?

Like i said before, a coach is as good as his last result, since 1996, he has been falling down the ladder and i hope you know where he coaches now after leaving Nigeria? Scotland was his last bus-stop before coming to Nigeria, so using that as a yardstick is as qualified as playing Borjan as an U-23 player.

That is what you get if you don't have any other thing to show to people apart from having a one hit one wonder trophy.

Arsene wenger won 5 years ago, but he has been performing, i mean, he has been staying in the top flight since then, he hasn't failed from going to every UCL, can you compare that to Berti Vogts? infact, how can you compare all these coaches with Berti vogts that can't even find a job with any football club nor football playing Nation?, Betti Vogts as it is now can only coach the likes of Reading/crystal palace e.t.c

Is this UCL the only tournament in the world and must every good coach win it? at least, these coaches you are naming won laurels of recent, compare that to your Berti Vogts, what has that man won since 1996? not even an emirate cup, bro, the more you type, the more i get tired with your logic.

A GOOD COACH SHOULDN'T BE FALLING DOWN THE LADDER AND BERTI VOGTS IS THE WORSE THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO NIGERIAN FOOTBALL.

dayokanu:
You say Berti Vogts record is old school compare that to Amodu whose records shows BCC lions in 1991 and ELkanemi in 1992.

You can do better bro, those are old school achievements, at least these are not the only laurels he has under his belt, as at 2010, he still won a bronze, better than your vogts bro, within 10 years, he has won 3 worldcup tickets, 2 bronzes. (1 WC ticket to beach WC).

HE has been improving and is not downward slopping like your Vogts.

dayokanu:
You mean Phillipe troussiere is black skinned? I never knew I guess we know new things everyday Grin

When i said he was not white "skinned", i meant he was not haunted and sacked for being white, the word "skinned" there meant he was not ill-treated for being white.

dayokanu:
I doubt if you watched Nigeria vs Zambia, Mozambique, Egypt and Ghana U21. No one can be worse than Amodu

Nah i didn't watch, i was playing poker when the matches were going on.
No one can be worse than Amodu, yet he's got all these?

2 FIFA world cup tickets
1 Beach World cup ticket.
AFCON bronze medal at Mali 2002 and Angola 2010.
Nigerian FA Cup titles with BCC Lions of Gboko and El Kanemi Warriors on multiple occasions.
In CAF Club Competitions, Amodu won the African Cup Winners' Cup with BCC Lions of Nigeria in 1990. Under Shaibu Amodu's guidance BCC Lions also finished as Runners Up of the African Cup Winners' Cup in 1991 losing in the final to Power Dynamos of Zambia.

Apart from the Nations cup Vogts won in 1996, what else do you remember him for?

dayokanu:
Thats the same enthusiasm that comes with anything new. Given Berti Vogts record of winning the Euro cup with Germany, then Nigerians were optimistic we can get a coach who was good enough to coach Germany. Unlike the 3rd grade foreign coaches we usually get

This Berti Vogts got Germany an Euro cup, This is a better record than any Nigerian born coach has. So based on pedigree, he is better than any Nigerian coach


When Berti Vogts made mistakes in Ghana everyone criticised him we all forgot what his achievement of winning Euro cup So the same thing that was used for Siasia was used for Vogts

When did he win that? how many years ago? have you forgotten about the saying that says a coach is as good as his last result? what was his performance with the Scottish team? they even made excuses for him that the Scottish people didn't have good players, that was why he couldn't perform, rubbish.

Which yeye achievement? 1996 abi is it even 1994? after that, what did he achieve? his last performance as a coach was worse than that of Gateway of OTA.

Nah, Vogts was no good even before he was hired, his last job was there to show that, but what did we do? we still employed him, Siasia only failed once unlike him who was already a failure before coming to Nigeria to work.

Wetin concern me with his record with Germany? we are talking about his record with Nigeria not with any silly old school record. his record was old school and that was the only thing he had to boast of.

dayokanu:
This still doesnt make sense. We sacked Philippe Trousiere who qualified us for the World cup who was also white skinned, So how did we tolerate him. Troussire had a better record than any local coach we have ever had in the National team.

He qualified us for the world cup with a game in hand. Yet he was sacked if we did that for a local coach you would have screamed racism but we did for a foreigner too

If England has a foreign coach, Switzerland has a foreign coach, Turker has, Russia had, Portugal had Can we say this countries too suffer from inferiority complex?

If you have a better person who could do it, then it doesnt count if he is white, black or green

He was tolerated bro, he was not white skinned, he had issues with the authorities then, not with the fans, go and check your history, it wasn't the fans that bad mouthed him, it was with the Authorities.

You are missing the points here, MY POINT IS THAT WHY PAY A FOREIGN COACH #30M AND THIS CASE IS DELIVERY AT PER WITH A LOCAL COACH WHO WAS BEING PAID #2M?

Secondly, why tolerate a foreign coach who's also as "clueless" as a local coach that was sacked for him?

tkb417:
are you giving excuses for losing to a shambolic Zambia side? or how we lost to Ghana U-21?

but you want us to believe we shoudnt have lost to an Argentine side with Messi, Di Maria, Tevez, Higuain, Masherano?
are u for real?

Amodu struggled against Kenya, Mozambique, Tunisia, Zambia, Ghana U-21 and u want to make me believe he would have beaten Argentina

Did u say Maradona made Lagerback look like an apprentice?
maybe Pep of Barcelona too shouldnt have beaten SAF if the number of years in coaching is the determining factor in coaching

abeg, if u dont have stuffs to say, sharrap

Of what use is losing 1 : 0 to a team with a coach that cost you 30 million naira a month and losing with same margin with a coach that would have cost you less than 2 million naira?

I don't have time to to really debate stuffs with you because you still wouldn't clean your mentality, we have argued since months ago, so i don't want to start with you again.

Yes, Maradona an (apprentice) with no coaching experience made Largerback look like a ball boy, the result and the stats is there to show, i can bet you, Largebeer earns more than Maradona as a coach yet he was shown the way to attack and score.

Pep is no Apprentice, if you know your history very well, you'd know that Pep's no apprentice and has been a coach (on a lower level) before he came up to the higher level unlike Maradona with no experience at all.

Like i said, you have already cemented what you want to believe in your heart so i won't try to convince you, the WHOLE world honesty know that we DIDNT AND NEVER struggled against the GHANIANS, they had an early goal and struggled to keep that lead, they went defensive all through the match and the likes of your average players ended up wasting all the chances that came their way, you can't deny the fact that we never struggled against the Ghanians and that match was one of our best in the tournament.

Yes, we played badly against the Zambians and i didn't excuse the players, they thought they could use name to play on the field and the Zambians reminded them that football is played with your legs and not your names.


We didn't struggle with Mozambique nor with the Tunisians because this same Moz narrowly lost to the STAR STUDDED CIV 1 0 in Cote' voire, this same moz beat Tunisia and we didn't lose to them.

Tunisia also beat France (the same squad in the WC now) and we didn't lose to Tunisia nor to France. Go and check the stats and stop following the crowd.

The Argentines we played against were no fantastic, they had a leaking defense and a tactical coach would have at least drawn that match or even beat them but what did we see? 1 SHOT AT GOAL!, you can continue hyping the performance, but those who really understand my point of view knows what is on ground.


Di Maria, Tevez, Higuain, Masherano? so what? were all these players not there when they lost 1 : 6 to Bolivia, were they not there when they lost to the likes of Paraguay, Chile, Ecuador and co? abeg, leave names joor, this same Argentina didn't perform more then Nigeria under Amodu and we even qualified for the worldcup before them.

jalether:
It is widely known that argentina has a relatively inbalance squad/team. great attackers coupled with a rather weak defence. as Honerico pointed out

many teams in recent times (some on the same level as Nigeria or even below us) have exploited this weakness to score and even beat the argies.

The million dollar question then is, what stops Nigeria fom capitalising on their weakness?.

You dey mind them? they won't see all these.

ThiefOfHearts:
honeric, good to see there's someone else who notices this INFERORITY complex that exist not only amond Nigerians sef but other African countries

It's pathetic and of course the brainwashed will have excuses.

My sister, i tire oo, INFERORITY COMPLEX dey popo them.

they love to make excuses for white coaches but not for a black one.

Break those legs Yam poundos

igbsam:
Green ( England's goalkeeper), Algerian keeper, most england players and even our own Etuhu. If you follow sport news very well, u'd notice they've been complaining about the ball before the beginning of the tournament,

Just these few people? how did these few translate to all?
How about Enyeama? did he complain too?
Klose nko? did he complain?
Podolski? did he complain?

Lame excuses.

Thanks mate.

Uhm, still looking for excuses. O ga o.

Who are the "everyone" you're talking about here?

Interesting
what do you know about this Sandro Rosell?

I am good jare, and how bout you?

medjai:
your point? we played badly and people have deliberately refused to see that and instead they are saying that they saw an improvement. we cant beat any team the way we played.

The problem i have with these people is that they know the truth but they just don't want to accept, let them keep living in their delusions.

dayokanu:
Tell me how Nigerians tolerated Berti Vogts and Philippe Troussier

I answered that already, stop sounding like a bot, why are you asking same questions again?

HNIC:
I never indicated that it was the handiwork of the coach, but you and your Amodu/Local coaches apologist kept talking about his fine form like he wasn't part of the team.
If my memory serves me well, he's been our number 1 goalie since 2002 and has saved us on countless occassions.
He's also a VITAL memeber of the teamGet some perspective, my guy.
Firstly,a Goalie,most times, is as good as the back four in front of him
That's why Cech is fantastic at the Chelsea,and average when with the national team.
The formation against Egypt was whack,
Players were unfit and there was no commitment to the cause.
This was different from what we saw yesterday.

Yes, he has been no 1 since and we all know that, you can't tell me that if not for what he did, we would have escaped with just 1 goal against us. HE IS VITAL but he was IN HIS OWN WORLD bro, HE WAS NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL WITH THE TEAM that LARGERBACK PREPARED.

You think it was the backline that saved us from not conceding more goals? JESUS!!!, can you please count how many tackles the back 4 had against the Argentine attacks? did you see how many 1 on 1 Messi, Huguain had with Enyeama? where were the defenders when all these happened? the free header Heinze had against us, was it not in the 18? where were the defenders when that happened? Yes Yobo and Shittu were average that day but have you thought of what would have happened if they were not up to Average? even at being average, the Argentine still had 24 shots on TARGET. i just don't want to continue with your likes who prefers to ignore the glaring truth, but rather stick to a one liner.

HNIC:
You can't go all out attack against the Argies, they will KILL you.
Those players are some of the best they have ever had.
They had the luxury of dropping Cambiasso and Zanetti(both CL finalist) and Milito who had a brace in the CL finAL
was on the bench
Let's be factual, we all expected a drubbing yesterday.
Forget statistics,bla,bla,bla.
Just imagine, if the chance that fell to Uche had fallen to Martins or Yak and the match ended 1-1
How useful will your stats of one shot at goal been.?
I have seen Arsenal had 24 shots on goal and 30 attempts and the match ended 0-0.
The scores are the most important.
Nevetheless, its foolish to judge Lars using one match
I will appraise him after the group matches.
But from what was displyed y'day,the tactical discipline was there and we saw the same players who under Amodu strolled around the pitch, ready to spill blood for fatherland.
That's what we require

You can't go against the Argentine says who? ask Bolivia, as Paraguay, ask Uruguay, ask Chile, ask even Ecuador, the back was as shaky as an old wall, yet we didn't do anything to it, sucks bro, too bad you just don't want to accept that we didn't perform and that there was no input from the coach. 1 SHOT ON TARGET IN 94MINS. sucks, they weren't even defensive, they weren't defensive, yet he only managed 1 shot on target and that shot came about 70mins into the game. sucks bro.

At least, test the goal keeper, how sure are you that if they had played more shots on target, we wouldn't have won?
how sure are you that if they had really taken the game out to the Argentine, we wouldn't have won?
how sure are you that if we had closed them down in the middle of the park, we wouldn't have won them?
how sure are you that if we had fought for every 50 50, we wouldn't have won?
how sure are you that if we had not given Messi and co free discount to roam about the field of play, we wouldn't have won?
How sure are you that if Largerbeer had chosen the right formation from the start, used the right 7 in the right position, we wouldn't have won?
How sure are you that if Largerbeer really had the technical input as a coach to read a match/see his opponent's weak points (Gutierrez and deminech), we wouldn't have been able to score and win?

Bro, this list goes on, but then i don't expect you to know all these because the coach is no black and he's no Amodu, anything apart from Amodu is the best that has ever happened to your likes.

Any Coach apart from a Nigerian is the best as long as it's not from Nigeria. By August, Largerbeer is going back to Sweden with $1.3m IN HIS ACCOUNT for the same service we would have gotten with just $2m per month instead of $30m.

Largerback has played 4 matches now, how many more do you expect to see from him before you start to see if he truly has the tactic and technical abilities that a coach being paid $30m should have?

So you didn't see Etuhu strolling around the middle? you didn't see Obasi/Obinna looking very immobile? you didn't see Kalu playing like someone learning Karate? you didn't see Osaze wasting chances he could have converted if he was Tshabalala?
Ride on bro.

Answer to this :

candylips:
are u a woman

Is this:

Gabry:
LMAO!!! For u maybe you are suit with Picture E, G and H! 

eros:
Let's be honest and fair, the vuvuzelas are truly a nuisance. Even whilst watching the matches through TV, the sound is very irritating and annoying. I am in support of the motion that they ban it when other countries are playing and they can blow their lungs out when South Africa is playing

Stop the complains jare, didn't they know what to expect at the worldcup before hand? was the trumpets not used at the confederation cup? if you can't stand the sound, mute your TV.

28Schweet:


as a south african, all i can say is, THE VUVUZELA IS HERE TO STAY, even the English were blowing it against the USA.
If the FOREIGNERS DIDN'T LIKE IT, THEY WOULDN'T BLOW IT!! Then it'll be left to the few South African's that are there to blow it at other games other than S.A games,

What amazes me about the broadcasters is that, they are inside broadcast booths, don't they have pitch (sound control) to block out the vuvuzelas,

eish, for stupidity,