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CultureRe: Africans Were The First People Of The Ancient Americas by Horus(m): 9:55am On Nov 24, 2018
morpheus24:
So what is the purpose of posting the video if not in support of the subject of this thread? If "negroid" in the video is not a synonym for "African" then what is the Video or Horus implying, please clarify.




Point 1 Its a "reconstruction" of a skull not an exact replica of what that person would have looked like. In simple terms, its an estimation.

Point 2. The skull shape of luzia falls in line with cranio facial adaptations of australian aboriginals, melanesians, papau new guineans as well as Contemporary Africans ( see pic below in order of ethnicity)all who have once upon a time been categorized under the "negroid" cranio metric designation even though they are genetically different people. See Journal of human genetics for further details on genetics of the aforementioned peoples.

Point 3. The first 3 peoples I mentioned above are Asians and their genetics cluster with people in and around that area regardless of phenotype. Their proximity to the new world also lends credence to the possibility that they reached the new world as well thousands of years ago.

Point 4. Lumping people who look similar to each other round the world under the category "black" or "African" is very simpleton and does not advance science or knowledge in the right direction. They are often used to advance an agenda. All people round the world share ancestory to populations that emanated from Africa, it doesn't mean they are the same people that populate sub saharan Africa because they are melinated.
So what is the purpose of posting the video if not in support of the subject of this thread? If "negroid" in the video is not a synonym for "African" then what is the Video or Horus implying, please clarify.
Now I believe you just want to argue just for the fun of arguing: What is the title of the thread?

Title of the thread - Africans Were The First People Of The Ancient Americas

Title of the video - Africans, were the first Americans

You can clearly see that the video is in support of the subject of this thread

Point 1 Its a "reconstruction" of a skull not an exact replica of what that person would have looked like. In simple terms, its an estimation.
No, it is not a "reconstruction" of the skull, the skull is already there, Its a "reconstruction" of the facial feature of what the person looked like according to this particular skull. They explain it at 7:15 on the video

Point 3. The first 3 peoples I mentioned above are Asians and their genetics cluster with people in and around that area regardless of phenotype. Their proximity to the new world also lends credence to the possibility that they reached the new world as well thousands of years ago.

Point 4. Lumping people who look similar to each other round the world under the category "black" or "African" is very simpleton and does not advance science or knowledge in the right direction. They are often used to advance an agenda. All people round the world share ancestory to populations that emanated from Africa, it doesn't mean they are the same people that populate sub saharan Africa because they are melinated.
Baseless claims with no source or no links provided and no connection with the video that I posted
Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 6:30pm On Nov 23, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvifDw0TZBs

North Sentinel Island Untouched For 60,000 Years, Don't Go There!
FashionLiberia’s Finance Minister Bans Employees With ‘unnatural’ Hair by Horus(op): 5:37pm On Nov 23, 2018
Liberia’s Finance Minister bans employees with ‘unnatural’ hair

Liberian Finance Ministry: No Natural Hair, No Work

The Ministry of Finance in Liberia has directed its security guards to restrict any female employee with "unnatural hair" or any colour extensions from entering the office complex

According to the Minister, Mr. Samuel D. Tweah, any employee who violates this policy will not be allowed into the office and that person's salary would be reduced by the number of days she would choose not to come to work. This is because that person not being in office would be treated as an unauthorized absence.

A top management staff backed the action saying that the minister is acting within the confides of the law according to the MFDP employee handbook section 7.4 titled, "Personal Appearance," line three states: "Unnatural colored hair (Green, Pink etc.) and extreme hairstyles such as spiked hair do not present an appropriate professional experience."

To verify that this was happening, a reporter passed through the Ministry's entrance to see for herself.

She observed that a female employee was stopped and barred from entering. This lady had her natural hair wrapped in gold.

“We are acting on the orders of the Minister, sister,” one of the male security guards told this female, who looked visibly perplexed.


It seems only female employees are the ones affected by the new policy at the moment. According to the reporter, some males whose displayed MFDP identification card and wore ‘funny’ hair on their heads, were allowed to enter.

“We were told to only stop these girl dem, my sister,” one of the guards told the Front Page Africa reporter when she inquired why male employees were being allowed

https://www.africanexponent.com/post/9272-liberian-finance-ministry-no-natural-hair-no-work

Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 3:22pm On Nov 23, 2018
They were a sociable tribe, until Jehovah’s Witness kept knocking on their doors
PoliticsRe: Is There A Conspiracy Between APC And The media To Conceal Boko Haram Attacks? by Horus(m): 2:24pm On Nov 23, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTyFqentjMY

Roy Okhidievbie speaks on Boko haram attacks on military base
CultureRe: Africans Were The First People Of The Ancient Americas by Horus(m): 12:25pm On Nov 23, 2018
morpheus24:
Cause the video does that and I also mentioned the dating in my previous comment.



The skull in your video is dated within the time frame of Asian migrations into the new world. It is +- 2000 years before Kennewick man.

The controversy of the cranio-facial metrics of Luzia is where you are hinging your "negroid" identity. This is the reason mentioned in my previous comment about the strict use of cranio classifications. Once upon a time an Aboriginal Australian was regarded as a "negroid" when in fact his genetics are not the same as a contemporary African who was also categorized as such.

Kennewick man's haplogroups will be matched with the genetic data of modern native American populations and if it clusters then he was most likely of the same descent as present day Asian populations that migrated into the new world. The study was done by a group geneticists at the University of Copenhagen and published in journal format. You can find additional info below

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14625
When did I used the word "negroid" in my post?, show me by using quote, I simply posted the title of the video as it is on Youtube
The person who use the word negroid is on the video, he is one the world leading forensic expert.

Once upon a time an Aboriginal Australian was regarded as a "negroid"
That is an African feature on the video, not an Aboriginal Australian
CultureRe: Moronke Naomi Silekunola Ogunwusi New Photos by Horus(m): 9:37am On Nov 23, 2018
Moronke Naomi Silekunola Ogunwusi

CultureRe: Kerma - The Great Black City That Defeated Rome by Horus(m): 8:57am On Nov 23, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTiJnJdElDU

Nubia :Kerma The oldest city

The video show statues of Nubian Pharaohs discovered at Kerma. It is in arabic but you can see what was found after digging

Rossikki:
Wow...9,500 years old...Thanks for that, Horus. I wonder what will be found if they keep digging in that place.
CultureRe: Africans Were The First People Of The Ancient Americas by Horus(m): 8:30am On Nov 23, 2018
morpheus24:
Point 1: Horus that video is old , I would advise you to stop using it. Science has moved on from that point.
Point 2: The skull in the video is dated btw 9-12,000 years ago, well within the time frame that native Americans entered North America.
Point 3: The terminology mongoloid, caucasoid and negroid have been reserved for cranio metric anthropology and help to determine a skulls shape and "possible" region they emanate from.

Point 4: The oldest fossil found in the Americas "Kennewick man" is dated about 9000 years ago similar to the one in the video. He clusters genetically with native Americans and I would guess so would the skull in the video if the genetic test is taken. The extent of Genetic testing was not available at the time of that video.

Point 5 Phenotype is correlated to genotype but it does not imply that one causes the other. I hope you understand what that means?
Why are you not able to name the skull in the video?. This is the skull of "Luzia", a Woman. The archaeologist who found these remains was Annette Laming-Emperaire, and together with other colleagues, after dating, she found that this woman lived in south-central Brazil some 11,500 years ago. The "Kennewick man" is dated only 9000 years ago. Can you give me the exact name of the method used for the Genetic testing of The "Kennewick man"?. And also the exact year when this testing was done? Post it here on Nairaland, please!
PoliticsRe: Stop Hiding Under Religion, Ethnicity, Sultan Tells Politicians by Horus(m): 7:51am On Nov 23, 2018
Many people think that politics and religion have to be kept separate because many religions did not allow freedom of worship and did not care equally for all people. History has shown that religion has created conflict
CultureRe: Africans Were The First People Of The Ancient Americas by Horus(m): 8:15pm On Nov 22, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JEAMzJDyZs

Africans, were the first Americans
Foreign AffairsRe: Africa Is A Cementery For Africans - Vladimir Putin by Horus(m): 7:36pm On Nov 22, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a62TfjpTXsM

Russian President Putin Calls Africa a Cemetery
TravelRe: The Aerial View Of A Shocking Traffic Congestion In Los Angeles (photos) by Horus(m): 6:23pm On Nov 22, 2018
bid4rich:
That one na traffic?

What about this?


grin grin
This is an old picture
CelebritiesRe: Black Chyna Launching Her Lightening Cream In Nigeria. Fans React by Horus(m): 4:32pm On Nov 22, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH3IeX0-1hM

Black Chyna to Launch "Bleaching Cream" in Nigeria
Foreign AffairsRe: Africa Is Just A Cemetery For Africans” Declares Putin, by Horus(m): 4:19pm On Nov 22, 2018
Stop voting for bad leaders in Africa
Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 2:53pm On Nov 22, 2018
The Sentinelese tribe resists all contact with outsiders and aggressively attacks anyone who dares to come near their island, because the Sentinelese know that they are not immune to modern diseases, so contact with outsiders could tragically wipe out the whole Sentinelese tribe

Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 2:44pm On Nov 22, 2018
LockDown69:
you can read but you don't understand. SMH!
It is you who do not understand, you are just claiming that they are cannibals instead of showing us proofs and evidences
that they practice cannibalism. Your claiming is just mere claim
Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 11:10am On Nov 22, 2018
LockDown69:
dude you cannot rule out cannibalism with these primitive beings, you can't relate my statement to been a stereotype, you should reconsider your response.
Show me proofs and evidences that they practice cannibalism and post it here on Nairaland
Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 11:02am On Nov 22, 2018
czarina:
Their actions categorized them as savages. I never did based on how far they were from civilization. After all, "civilization" in its truest form is relative.
Which action categorized them for you as "savages"?
BusinessRe: “Next Cash And Carry” To Open In Port Harcourt, Nigeria’s Biggest Mall (Photos) by Horus(m): 10:47am On Nov 22, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIp11Tw5O64

Construction of largest shopping mall in Port Harcourt
CrimeRe: Photos Man Who Killed His Baby 'As Sacrifice To God' In Benue. See What He Did by Horus(m): 10:41am On Nov 22, 2018
Ban Religions
Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 10:33am On Nov 22, 2018
czarina:
There are still savages? In 2018?
They seem perfectly fine and happy with their way of living. Who are we to call them "savage" and say that they should live like us?
They are probably happier than most of us in the "modern" world. Leave them alone
Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 10:31am On Nov 22, 2018
LockDown69:
They will probably eat him as well. undecided
They do not eat human, they are fishermen only; stop your stereotype
Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 10:23am On Nov 22, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEsNc1HXoYc

Must watch - A Banned Island in India - North Sentinel Island - Sentilese
Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 10:17am On Nov 22, 2018
The Sentinelese Do Not Want To Be The Victims Of Development

After the Indian Ocean tsunami of 2004, there was a fear that the Sentinelese may have been wiped out, however they appear to have survived the event relatively unscathed. Thought the tsunami killed more than 230,000 people in surrounding countries, it appears that the Sentinelese were able to sense the coming of the tsunami and escape to higher ground before it arrived. When an Indian Navy helicopter arrived three days after to check on their well-being and drop food parcels on the beach, a Sentinelese warrior came out of the jungle and warned the helicopter off with a bow and arrow, a clear sign that the Sentinelese did not want help from outsiders

Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 9:54am On Nov 22, 2018
Sentinelese peoples

Christianity EtcRe: John Allen Chau Killed In India, North Sentinel Island. Read His Letter by Horus(m): 9:46am On Nov 22, 2018
Sentinelese Man Fishing In The Coral Reefs

CultureRe: Kerma - The Great Black City That Defeated Rome by Horus(m): 11:18pm On Nov 21, 2018
Nubian archers, Medja Temple Relief, Nubia

CultureRe: Kerma - The Great Black City That Defeated Rome by Horus(m): 7:06pm On Nov 21, 2018
morpheus24:
Can you point me to where archaelogists were able to date these sites to about 9,500 and what method was used?
http://solarey.net/western-deffufa-kerma-sudan/
TravelGay Nigerian Escapes Persecution For Better Life In US by Horus(op): 7:00pm On Nov 21, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZr5LXVi8dY

Gay Nigerian escapes persecution for better life in US

Every day people come to the United States seeking asylum from countries that refuse to protect them. Babatunde Scott-Ashley fled his home country of Nigeria when he was 27. He arrived in March 2017 seeking asylum after facing violence and persecution for being gay. Nigeria is notorious for its treatment of homosexuals. Police and gangs harass, beat and persecute people who are believed to be gay. After facing unimaginable hate and abuse, Babatunde believed he had no choice but to escape a country that refused to protect him. Babatunde’s case began after meeting Shanti Tharayil, a lawyer with the Community Development Project at the Urban Justice Center, who helped him submit his case for asylum. We followed him though that entire process.
PoliticsRe: 15 Areas Nigeria Is Better Than America- Mrrights by Horus(m): 6:41pm On Nov 21, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LacD_JOI04

Africa's Son Akon Speech on Why Africa is Better than America
Music/RadioRe: When Will Nigerian Songs Stop Being About Sex, Money & Love? by Horus(m): 4:13pm On Nov 21, 2018
When will Nigerian Songs Stop being Just about Money and Sex?
The trend will stop only when you will stop buying songs that only talk about Money and Sex

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