spongeisback:
OP you're pure evil WOW!

How many temples was built during the during the time of Solomon? Solomon built ONE(1) temple for all of Israel, so this men of god that claim to be directed by the "holy spirit" why can't they build one temple like Solomon since you want to make that comparison.

Why do "Oyedopo's sons" need different mega structures if they're really inspired by god and not
greed?!

Oyedopo built his, eneche followed and David's own shrine is under construction. Why's it that they're all following the same template?
1) build church
2) build expensive school
3) build a city
4) rinse and repeat
If this doesn't tell you no God sent this men I don't know what will, but you're blinded by greed and ignorance and you feel "oh if I keep supporting them one day I will get mine"

Of course "god" is happy that an impoverished nation like Nigeria is building temples for him, he's sooooooo happy that he's blessing us. Last week while the dedication of the "glory dome" was going on we lost our biggest oil buyer....thank you god!
Ritual killings is on the all time high because of the level of poverty and hunger...you're awesome god!

Compare now to when the Pentecostal vampires haven't flooded Nigeria to then when we had fewer churches and no mega structures....god is really really happy!

Thank you daddy god!!!!

princfred:
This is all good. Is it enough compared to what they can actually do and the problems abounding which you even enumerated? Is it even anything compared to those even as you yourself listed? When was the ikeja bomb blast how much % of that compared to what winners get every other month? Are they appreciating the call to do more in that area so we know somewhere along the line they will focus there as needed or cursing those who make the call?
Mr government earning more what did they do ?
Stop complaining. Please just stop it ... is it only in Nigeria we have mega churches, tell your government to do well and leave this pastors ... how much you give them?


Missionaries didnt have to announce their humanitarrian deeds because we see them everywhere donkey years later as they are too many. Even doing half of the things you enumerated will not need to be announced before people will notice, commend and emulate thereby improving the society with the avalanche effect.

HigherEd:
1) Why Was God Happy About The Construction Of Solomon's Temple?

2) Did Poor People Matter To God During Solomon's Era Or Was God Merely Concerned About Temples?

3) Where There Poor People In Isreal When Solomon Built The Temple?

4) Why Didn't God Complain When Taxes Collected MANDATORILY From The Rich And Poor Was Used In Constructing The Temple Which Would Cost Billions Of Naira In Today's Economy?

5) Why Did God Not Tell Solomon To Use The Temple's Budget To Feed The Poor?

6) If God Despite The Existence Of Poor People Felt Honored And Excited About The Temple Built In His Honor, How Are You Sure He Isn't Happy About The Cathedrals Also Being Built In His Honour Today?

7) Where The Worshippers In The Solomon's Temple Perfect People?

Did The Inperfections Of Solomon Nullify The Gift He Gave To God?

9) Is It Possible That God Is Still Happy That An Impoverished Nation Like Nigeria Still Has Worshippers Dedicating Great Buildings In His Name?

HigherEd:

Mission activities where in times past sponsored by various govts. Until the 1950s the US govt was sponsoring missionary activities. Many of the schools and hospitals built by missions where funded by govt. Which Nigerian govt is willing to support the church?

Which govt has said to Nigerian churches, build Covenant uni and let us supply you with lecturers so it can be free?

Which govt has said to churches build and equip the hospitals we would supply you with doctors?

The churches have to build from scratch, equip, employ and then you expect it to be free. How do you expect them to sustain recurrent expenditure.

princfred:
So are you saying the church cant dont have the funds to do the things you enumerated and appreciate they should do?

What it takes to buy and maintain private jets cant it do some of the things you mentioned? What happened to church contribution only good for building auditoriums? Will members not volunteers to put in service to humanitarian efforts without pay? US sure sponsored missionaries but that was mainly to make what missionaries were already doing bigger not to kick start it as missionaries where using church contributions to forward their humanitarian effort anyway. Also apostles didnt wait for government before they shared church contributions to the poor and made that a culture so government is not a good excuse look for another or.......
If the preaching of the church cannot motivate people to volunteer to serve with little or no pay to reduce the cost of running the humanitarian structures then, dont you think the Church and its preaching is not effective?

tamethem:


You failed woefully in your quest to mock the Church.

Before you call any Christian Sheepple, you need to ask yourself some question and be sure you are sincere in your answers. Of course your likes are never sincere people, because either by crook or crude you must win every battle you wage on Christians.

"Sheepple" according to the usage by the one who started it Freeze, means gullible Christians.

Gullible according to the dictionary means deceived and it could mean foolish also.

Now who are the foolish?

If all the members of Winners for exampled are foolish then does it make sense to think that the multitude of winners comprising of different cadres of people worldwide are gullible or Stupid. Among them are Lawyers, Judges, Professors , Engineers, Politicians of high caliber. Soldiers etc etc etc. (Right thinking people)

Would it make sense to say millions of these people are gullible people? Stupid people who are being deceived?

It is only Stupid to call these Christians Gullible. If you say you don't understand why they do what they do, it is accepted, but to call them gullible is Pure Senselessness.

My guy the truth of the matter is there is something unique about Christianity that only , I mean only Christians understand. And that simple thing is the reason why they will give and give and give without looking back at the Critics of their actions.

Take a trip to these Churches and see that the people you call stupid or foolish are Happy , Radiant looking people, Comfortable people who are from different languages and cultures of the world.

They are not retched like you guys portray them. Fleets of Sleek Cars are parked at the Car Parks of these Churches at every service. Their selfless giving has no negative effect on them. Attend the services and see Joy unspeakable in the Church.

Is this Staged every service by everyone?
Oooh No! It can't be!

About the poor among them?

Oh Yes! There will always be poor people in the world and the church too is part of the world.

Jesus said in the Bible " The poor you will always have among you" He knows there will always be poor people in the church, The poor widow who Jesus commended was truly poor and yet she gave an offering.

As beautiful and well organized America , Canada, France and other civilized Countries are, there are still poor people among them , in fact people so poor that they don't have a home. Homeless! Beggars!

So what's is so special in poor people found in the Church?

Is that the reason why Offerings won't be taken again?

Is Church offering taken by force?

So what now makes the people gullible?


Finally you and your likes are suffering from a disease called "Christianophobia"

Its defined as darkness' fight against the light .

You will always find fault in every action of the Church even if all Churches today announce that Tithes and Offerings are stopped till eternity. You guys will still find something negative to say about the Church. It is not New. Jesus Himself confirmed that there would be persecutions and your actions are part of it.

My advice to you and your likes is go get a life!

We enjoy our gullibility as long as it pays us , it gives us joy, we don't lack any good thing by giving. And we will continue to give and build Church Domes. So wail from now till eternity we continue to give. Na our Money, It should not be your headache and if it is, it has no other name but Madness.

If spending my money is your headache. It is called Madness

NPComplete:


[s]Always expect Felixomor to "moronize" the discussion. They were having a healthy debate on the thread before u came to foul the thread with your subpar intelligence[/s].

wis3:
you don't just make assumptions based on past events. What if you're wrong? What if all what God really wanted was for us to love and help one another?

wis3:
where a large chunk of their members live like peasants.

HigherEd:
1) Why Was God Happy About The Construction Of Solomon's Temple?

2) Did Poor People Matter To God During Solomon's Era Or Was God Merely Concerned About Temples?

3) Where There Poor People In Isreal When Solomon Built The Temple?

4) Why Didn't God Complain When Taxes Collected MANDATORILY From The Rich And Poor Was Used In Constructing The Temple Which Would Cost Billions Of Naira In Today's Economy?

5) Why Did God Not Tell Solomon To Use The Temple's Budget To Feed The Poor?

6) If God Despite The Existence Of Poor People Felt Honored And Excited About The Temple Built In His Honor, How Are You Sure He Isn't Happy About The Cathedrals Also Being Built In His Honour Today?

7) Where The Worshippers In The Solomon's Temple Perfect People?

Did The Inperfections Of Solomon Nullify The Gift He Gave To God?

9) Is It Possible That God Is Still Happy That An Impoverished Nation Like Nigeria Still Has Worshippers Dedicating Great Buildings In His Name?

HigherEd:
1) Why Was God Happy About The Construction Of Solomon's Temple?

2) Did Poor People Matter To God During Solomon's Era Or Was God Merely Concerned About Temples?

3) Where There Poor People In Isreal When Solomon Built The Temple?

4) Why Didn't God Complain When Taxes Collected MANDATORILY From The Rich And Poor Was Used In Constructing The Temple Which Would Cost Billions Of Naira In Today's Economy?

5) Why Did God Not Tell Solomon To Use The Temple's Budget To Feed The Poor?

6) If God Despite The Existence Of Poor People Felt Honored And Excited About The Temple Built In His Honor, How Are You Sure He Isn't Happy About The Cathedrals Also Being Built In His Honour Today?

7) Where The Worshippers In The Solomon's Temple Perfect People?

Did The Inperfections Of Solomon Nullify The Gift He Gave To God?

9) Is It Possible That God Is Still Happy That An Impoverished Nation Like Nigeria Still Has Worshippers Dedicating Great Buildings In His Name?

mixta140:

Thanks a lot ,
I don't know who told them if you don't pay offerings and tithe you cant stay in the church.people are not forced to pay this money , and you only give what you have ...
People get problem ooo...
Please they should vent their anger somewhere else ..
Thanks once again my brother for your comment .

felixomor:


As usual
Atheists always come with their joblessness-installed sycophancy.

Shior

NPComplete:


[s]Why is it that jobless people always think everyone else is equally jobless? Lol
I am not the reason for your unemployment bro. Stop projecting. Maybe if u pay double tithes and contribute to your church more, maybe the god u believe in will finally help u find a good job. [/s]

InvertedHammer:

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Compare Nigeria (an impoverished nation by all indices) with developed nations and their attitudes towards churches (not religion). You will find the answers you seek.

One would think Nigeria founded Christianity and Islam going by the way Nigerians have their miserable lives centered on both religion. I dare say that nobody makes use of his/her brain anymore. Every aspect of life must be based on Bible quotes. Yet evil thrives in that shithole. Nigerians are not religious. They are hypocritically religious.

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felixomor:


See the foolish question he is asking
Who wont know you are jobless?
Atheists sleeping on religious forum....
Obviously your life has no meaning without this forum,

Its common sense.

geezyk:
Regarding your questions, here are some answers.

1. Yes, God was really happy about the Temple.

2. During Solomon's era, it was said that riches abound in Israel, and gold was like the sand of the seashore. Israelites were extremely wealthy as at the time.

3. Refer to Answer 2 ^

4. Because the Israelites were extremely wealthy at the time, they were blessed by God exceedingly, that being taxed for the temple building is just a minuscule thing.

5. Still refer to Answer 2 above ^

6. It was just the one and only temple being built in Israel at the time, and it was just a place the Israelites could come to worship God, compared to Nigeria which has countless temples all around the corner, still yet the economy of the temple is dwindling.

7. No one is perfect, and there'll still continue to be imperfect people till this day.

8. Even the Bible states that none of is perfect, No! not even one.

9.Our body is where God's temple really is, if we can't build up our fellow humans, we have really failed, why do you think the greatest commandment ever is love your neighbour as yourself. I wouldn't know the mind of God to know what it's going on there, but I feel he won't be happy with the way people are being exploited in his name, we're being sold salvation on a daily basis.

mixta140:

What is it with church money ... please go meet the government, are you the one to tell them how to use the money , someone here said some of the things they should do .... I heard 500million for the widow ... where the government did give such amount to help the needy... what's your problem with church , is the church Nigerias problem

tamethem:


God bless you.

The fact is you don't need to offend the devil before he starts fighting you.

Christianity is light and darkness will always wage war against it.

Compare every Worship Centers around the world to the standard of the Church. They are no where to be found. Compare the reasoning faculties of Christians and their ways of organisation to these mofos and their agents they are no where to be found.

If Church Money is used by the Likes of Oyedepo to build world standard Schools and Churches what do you think will happen if such ppl are given the chance to rule Nigeria with all the wealth we have.

Why do you think Nigeria is like the shit it is. Godly ppl are not in the helms of affairs. 90% of Nigerian politicians are not Christians. Among the few claiming to be Christians 5% are true children of God.

So when Christians do extraordinary things they cry foul. We spend our own money to build whatever we like they call us names. Sheeples, Mumu, etc.

They ain't see nothing yet!

mixta140:

This thing caused small fight amongst my friends and I last Thursday. .. it's this argument on churches...
My friends now look different to me ... am really surprised what economy is turning some people too ...
It's like the politicians has charmed the people to face the churches for their problem.
Church built school , it ain't free , they did this and that.
I was like do you think higher institution with quality education Na joke...
How my I myself Don contribute financially to get free quality education. Nothing is free is what I said . The thing Wan lead to fight ...
I was like oga ooo .
Politicians are rubbing us korokoro we go dey look say who Wan die ...
God has helped us enough in this country, we just have to take charge and stop irrelevant complaint

nwabekeyi:
the church is taking too much money from the economy and investing it on frivolities, things that will not benefit the economy.

Remember that, any amount of money you invest in church will hardly yield any economic importance as the church doesn't pay tax nor do they pay as much employers as an average establishment. Any money invest in church will hardly come back to the economy
We are poor and at this stage of our life as a Nation, we can't afford to take huge chunk of money and spend it on unproductive edifices.

The government has a problem but religion is not helping either, religion which is suppose to complement the government's deficit is now acting as a supplement to the deficit.

NPComplete:


Always expect Felixomor to "moronize" the discussion. They were having a healthy debate on the thread before u came to foul the thread with your subpar intelligence.

HigherEd:
1)
3) Where There Poor People In Isreal When Solomon Built The Temple?

4) Why Didn't God Complain When Taxes Collected MANDATORILY From The Rich And Poor Was Used In Constructing The Temple Which Would Cost Billions Of Naira In Today's Economy

7) Where The Worshippers In The Solomon's Temple Perfect People?

Did The Inperfections Of Solomon Nullify The Gift He Gave To God?

NPComplete:

[s]
Felixmoron.
Go through my history and my posts and see when I am active here. Weekends. Let's go through yours to find out. We all know u are one of the most miserable and jobless fellows on Nairaland. Everyone knows that. Even your fellow Christians. So again I tell u; stop projecting. Because your life has no meaning without this forum doesn't mean everyone else's life does.
I pray u get a job one day so u will stop thinking Nairaland gives meaning to your life.
Unfortunately u are far older than the age for entry level positions. And u have no skill. So you are hopeless. That's why u have to keep clutching your religious beliefs and holding them close to your chest and be busy defending senseless religious position because u feel that way God will smile on you.
Newsflash bro. God does not favor idiocy.[/s]