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Maybe she thought it was a big PRICKle

I understand your point ma.

Personally while teaching my mantra has always been never to draw blood or cause any form of bodily injury.

In fact, any time I discipline the kids, I always start with the weakest one, you have to know how much he can bear (in my case it was a girl).

She can cry eh.

Also, if I'm a teacher today, honestly I'm never touching any child again whether they do anything, it's written notes only to their parents and the school management.

It's not worth it at all.

kenysbabe:
Hello,

Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts on this. I agree that children should be corrected and disciplined when they do something wrong, but discipline must be handled appropriately and within proper boundaries. If a child violates school policy, disobeys instructions, or behaves in a way that affects others, then it is understandable for the school to address it.

However, in this particular case, I do not believe the teacher’s action was appropriate. The child’s hair did not even appear overgrown, and he looks very young. If the teacher felt the hair needed to be cut lower, the proper thing to do would have been to send a note or message to the child’s parents. A teacher is a guardian only while the child is in school, but that does not give her the right to take such a personal matter into her own hands.

I have read several people say that if parents do not want their children disciplined, they should homeschool them. In this case, the question is: how was the boy’s hair preventing the teacher from teaching? Was there a health concern, such as lice? If so, the right approach would have been to inform the school authorities and the parents, not to take such drastic action.

I feel strongly about this because something similar happened to my child. I was called from work and told to come to the hospital because my child had been rushed there. A teacher had disciplined him with a sharp object, which tore his forehead. He was only three years old! When I arrived, my child was soaked in blood and tears. It was and still is the most painful experiences for both me and my child. My husband was livid when I told him as he wasn’t in town.

What made it even harder was that the children present were too young to clearly explain what happened, so I never truly got closure. The school authorities and teachers came to my house several times to apologize, and the teacher was eventually let go, but my child still carries the huge scar on his forehead till date because someone felt they had the right to discipline him in a harmful way.

Discipline is important, but it must never cross the line into humiliation, harm, or abuse.

If you've ever known what it means to teach a group of students, you'll know never to single yourself out as an example.

Children learn at different paces. Some pick up reading in primary 3, some in primary 4 and some will never master it even after secondary school.

Secondly, yes some teachers are not qualified. In fact I started teaching right after my waec while waiting for admission to the university.

While I don't have the official qualification, there was nothing above me to teach the primary students.

Maybe I could have been a better teacher if I had gotten the qualifications but at the time, I was the best option they had and so was employed.

One of the teachers in the secondary school (we had jss 1-3) once called me to explain atoms to the students because in her words she didn't do science but is supposed to teach science.

Same as another time a boy once argue with the female teacher and he was right but she kept insisting. I could have interfered but I never did.

So yes, issues of qualifications are there. But they've always been there. My uncle who was a government primary school teacher back in the day and taught us, was retired from the army where he picked up reading from his colleagues.

That was his only qualifications back then and he did the job well until his retirement.

Teaching primary school is not some rocket science.

Go to any primary school today, Most of their teachers are secondary school graduates trying to find their feet or waiting for admission.

People are not as eager to teach your kids as much as you think. Because the pay is peanuts.

I was earning 6k then a month plus teaching primary 5 (all subjects) and jss 1-3 their maths, basic science and intro tech (I was the only science student in the school).

You think a graduate will be queuing up to accept such pay? Schools are scared of increasing school fees not to scare parents away. And so cannot pay these teachers well.

The school owner later offered to bump my pay but then I became too tired and also had gotten my admission.

Thirdly, most primary school especially in private schools today have extra lessons which starts immediately after school time (2-4pm).

They are often mandatory nowadays and added to school fees. It's never because the teachers are terrible, it's more of an adopted practice.

Even then, other schools do send their kids to our school then for the extra lesson especially those in public schools. They will go home, eat sharp and then come and join my class. I had about 4 of them.

My younger sister after her normal school hour have her own lesson teacher who comes to our house as a private teacher.

I really don't think you have a point, I'm just rather chanced today which is why I'm replying any and everyone.

Weathered:
you forgot to add most teachers these days are grossly unqualified. NCE remains the minimum standard for a teacher which you didn't have.

Private schools are business not learning places.

In my primary school there was no lesson then. No need for it. Teachers were sound. I was reading very well in primary three.

Today you and your fake schools are imposing lesson from primary school. Does it mean your students are dull or there's something wrong in the process?

He'll probably strike again.

Netanyahu hates the Muslims as much as they hate the Jews. Probably even more.

Muslims all over the world are used to being the hater and aggressive ones and always using such to get their way.

They never imagined Netanyahu could be as cruel and heartless as they were.

Na Tinubu build the hospital? Una dey talk o

HacheNoire:
Another big win for the administration of His Excellency, President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR) and a great opportunity to put those that detest his administration to shame.

Making the Okigwe general hospital a competitive world class hospital would be a top priority for the administration so as to make a bold statement to naysayers.

Bala Blu fan boys will say but to barb hair in America is $500 while to barb hair in Nigeria is N500

Tinubu did not even approve himself to be president

Lolz.

Everyone suddenly talking like they didn't grow up in Nigeria.

She wants to prove to the child she loves him so much and would never allow anyone to touch him

But her love does not involve taking proper care of the child's appearance. Only when others discipline him that she will have the chance to cause chaos so the child can appreciate it

keemsleek:
Those days you barb styles like tyson to school teacher would put scissors in your hair and design the hair for you. Well they say they are in the GEN Z generation. I keep asking why is it that it the mother that's always going to the school why not the father?


Every parents knows what they want.

If I was looking for validation, I won't be arguing with you or opposing you, instead I'll be agreeing with everything you say so as to score cheap points.

Again, you're going to extreme to find non-existent points

WatchYourSix:
This is more desperation from you because my comment u jumped on isnt directed to you.. it’s a different context about a soldier who flogged a random person because of their hairstyle and forcefully shaved their hair…. U are just all over the place looking for validation for your extreme view….

Again, you guys always like to swing your arguments to the extreme just to make a point.

Especially of things that may never exist.

No one is in support of male teachers shaving female pubic hair. Such examples are extreme and never done for discipline.

Secondly, if you read my write up it clearly stated "why" parents needs to confront teachers but more importantly, "how" this should be done.

But coming to say, no teacher should discipline the kids or coming to fight them is never the right thing.

Teachers should be able to discipline kids. The extent of such discipline is an individual thing.

Since such is individualized, parents should always make their displeasures known to the teacher as soon as they crossed the line.

The teacher cut the child's nails most likely because they are dirty. All of us know she wanted to do good.

Now as a parent, you know this. Your child is not in any immediate danger from the cut nails.

You can work up to the teacher, "ma/sir I noticed you did this or that to my child. I understand you meant the best for them but next time can you inform me before hand? Here's my phone number or better still you can write it in a note and give it to him and he'll bring it to me at home"

Instead the mother went there to prove to her baby that I love you so much and would not allow anything or anyone to touch you.

That's all the mother wanted to prove to her child, the school and more importantly to herself.

And this is what most parents today want to do. They want to prove that they love their kids so much, they don't understand that love goes with discipline.

If you love your child you'll cuddle them, not allow them to ride a bicycle because they can get injured.

But that's not love. You let them play even if they can get injured because it's necessary for their growths into capable adult humans.

Saying your child should be outside of the discipline square is totally wrong.

ponishah:
Nice narrative.
But you narrative placed same side with the parents your objective was to drag.
Our problem with analysis is that we allow ourselves to be too shallow and follow narrow parts. And tend to always leap before we look when analysing such incidents.
We all do not know the full story that led to the shaving of the girls hair and the cutting of her nails, but no amount of goodwill as a teacher confers unlimited powers to a teacher to act in whichever way he chooses in instilling discipline upon her students.
Students are minors and as such need parental approval for most things.

You can't support the shaving of primary school pupils hair and cutting of her nails for any reason. It is a no no. You channel whatever complaints you have to the parents.
Teachers no longer have absolute powers.
One day the male teacher go shave female students pubic hair all in the name of discipline.

The same children wey teachers discipline well well those days, Na them dey finish this country so.

Secondly if a girl is plaiting her natural hair, no teacher will take a scissor and start cutting it.

It's only when the school make it mandatory that all students should barb their hair regardless of sex and the girl start plaiting her hair suddenly in rebellion.

Why are we all pretending like we didn't attend school in this country?

In most schools, female students are not allowed to use attachments on their hair, if you do, most times they will loose it or cut it, prompting you to loose the attachment.

If the boys hair are bushy or they barb style not allowed by the school they are either scattered prompting the kids to go and barb the right style or sent back home.

But no, you must perform the mental gymnastics of going extremes to make nonsense points.

Point out any desperation in my write up.

Point out anywhere I'm wrong where discipline is suggested and it's not because of prior indiscipline which is aimed at being corrected.

WatchYourSix:
U are desperately trying to justify wrong doing by hiding it under discipline …

I love how you guys like taking arguments and twisting it like there was no cause.

So a teacher will just flog every student without a cause?

How una dey see some of us like mumu nau?

WatchYourSix:
How can you just be flogging someone in the road who ddnt commit any crime in the name of discipline . And you think this is okay…?

Yall are just used to violence from your folks since childhood, so u see it as a norm

Everybody want to cry human rights to appear educated.

She knows human rights not to touch her kids. But not the human decency to care about her kids appearance.

In the whole class only her coming to fight probably only her kid was dirty but because she has no shame, she came to disgrace herself further.

With barbing saloon all over the place, she cannot give her son N500 to barb his hair and appear neat and smart.

An excuse of a mother but well she knows her human rights

SAMBARRY:
those were when mothers were mothers,not the type of apology we have now,especially the one crying from page to page deceiving herself

Advanced countries bring guns to school and kill each other.

You ever wondered why advanced countries are importing doctors instead of having them in abundance?

Because their school system is failing. These kids are fighting their teachers literally.

No be everything we suppose copy

gbagyiza:
To discipline an unserious child especially in the academic space is not a bad thing but it should be control in a manner that it will NOT put his or her health at risks.

I think we need to study the logic used in advance countries, we don't hear about such controversies and at the same time their kids perform even better than our kids in most cases.

If your child's hair is cut in primary school it always mean one thing: it was bushy and unkept.

Most of us that grew up in the village know this. Every Monday was inspection day where they check your uniform to see if it's clean, your nails to see if it's short and your hair and teeth.

Teaching goes beyond ABCD. The teachers also want these kids to be healthy.

As a parent if you fail in this responsibility, your kids will often bear the repercussions. In those days, they will use a metre rule to flog your nails or carry a scissors to scatter the hair. If the use the scissors to make two lines in front of the bushy hair, the kid becomes ashamed of his scattered hair, forcing the parent to barb the hair.

This is why I'm not taking this mother seriously because if she loved her child as much as she want us to believe, he'll not be going to school with bushy and dirty hair and nails.

She's a terrible mother and it's reflecting on the kid.

RockyEyo:
In submission, as a parent if u notice that there's a cut on ur child's hair that u weren't aware of u would be cool about it...... or is cutting the child's hair a new form of punishment now.... Read a lot of stuff that really passed me.... being a teacher is overwhelming, try being a parent (I'm talking about a responsible parent)

God save us all

Parents don't understand this honestly.

School owners don't care about your kids. In fact if they will lie down for your kids to walk all over them so you continue keeping your kids in the school they will gladly do it.

They will do anything to keep your children happy and want to stay in that school.

No work, no discipline, just playing and long breaks. Even telling teachers to upgrade their scores, change remarks about their performances, no positions in class (no parents will be happy with their kids coming last) I've seen it all as a teacher.

If you like don't watch your child. E go perform well for paper but na olodo for reality.

Ajoself:
I had the opportunity to be a part-time teacher in a private school. The problem is from the school (private) and the parents. If one school did not promote a child another school would accept the child with open arms. Parents do not even monitor their children school notes and assignments believing it is the work of the teacher. The reality is after school hours, the work of the teacher is closed till the next school day.

They feed kids junk because they think it's enjoyment.

You'll hear "I want to give my kids the kind of life I never had"

These little children become obese and are made fun of in the class. Worst, they can't even do what other kids are doing.

To any parent out there, you turned out fine, trust me, your kids will turn out better if you don't indulge them.

It's the kind of life you wanted. Your kids didn't tell you they wanted the kind of life you never had.

This is why some rich people have their kids spoilt and they tend to hate them because they ene up forcing "the enjoyment life" they imagine they would have wanted in their own childhood on the innocent kid.

Because you think "oh my parents should have protected me, or my parents should not have allowed any teachers to touch me" doesn't mean it's the best life for your kids.

Some of you parents need to grow up

SAMBARRY:
na them

Na those mothers wey go buy 1 carton of popcorn, ice cream ,indomie and all manner of junks and then be wondering why the child's attention span is low,why she's lazy,dull and not bright .all they want their kids to do is dance on tiktok all day,eat, watch TV,sleep.reading to them is punishment and doing assignments is abusive.

Coming to class late is good sef in their own dictionary. Wonkin shoromo

Most of them spoil their kids in the name of I don't want to be like my parents

MarkNsukkaBread:
It's better for you to keep your child at home and train him yourself since you don't want teachers to discipline him/her.

When you were a kid, did your parents ever go to school to fight teachers; compare how you turned out to the insolent and indolent kids we have these days who have largely gone out of control

You like to imagine things because you think you're educated or enlightened

Take a seat

Mattswaggz:
So violating the kids human rights and displaying gross disrespect to the parents consent instead of tabling the matter to the parents or the school authorities to know the procedures available for such scenario is more civil to you right?. .

Teaching and discipline goes together. What you should stand against is the extreme of it

Phred1717:
Kids are always dramatic, parents sacrifice so much on them. I cannot put my kids in a private school, paying about 800k in a single term and one teacher that is suppose to teach and leave the discipline aspect for the parents, start melting it on the kid. I once confronted a teacher that gave my 7years old child 100 frog-jump to do, all in the name of making noise in the class.
At the end of it, I personally gave the same teacher 300 frog jump to do.
Teacher nowadays transfer personally economy anger on student and parents really needs to watch their children

If you care so much about your child you'll keep their hair and nails clean so no teacher will correct them.

It's always the bad parents coming to fight on their badly behaving kids behalf.

Check very well, you correct a kid who is badly behaved and they call their terrible parents who comes around to fight, displaying their poor behavior which is being reflected in the kids.

The apple never falls far from the tree. Tueh!

Gbadugbakun:
No teacher has the right to barb the hair of a child without the consent of the parents. I'd you try that with my child you're going to jail because I'll pay influencers to drag you and the school on social media and say that you use children's hair for rituals that's why you barb them without their parents consent.

Then I'll have the teacher arrested for rituals, she'll be remanded in jail while investigations go on. God help you if my child falls sick during that period, your own don be.

Just focus on your teaching and leave the kids alone.

Which one be many more to come na

eepeepook:
You children have low standards. Every stage in life is an achievement. I congratulate her on this milestone. Many more to come.

Parents can be dramatic at times as we have seen in this recent video of the woman confronting her kids teacher.

Most of these kids can come home and narrate issues not as they were but as they feel it is.

I used feelings. Kids can easily feel things differently and exaggerate unnecessarily.

I used to teacher a primary school class with 11 kids in total.

Primary 5 then.

When I started, I was preparing them for common entrance exam immediately but I had a problem: most of the kids could not read properly.

Like 5 of them could not read a whole line in their textbooks without looking up to me for help.

Now these are kids going to jss 1 the next year. We all know in jss 1, you're expected to know how to read at least from my secondary school experience.

But there was one in particular that could not read at all.

I had to confront their previous teacher from primary 4 because I found it very sad that they will keep promoting these kids like that.

But she explained that the kids won't do their homework, she can't discipline them because they don't want to loose their kids to other schools (the proprietors instructions).

But I was determined to make sure these kids can read before they leave the school.

It's not small work o. I introduced them to Ugo c. Ugo.

Everyday, they are solving 50 maths questions as assignments. I remember the very first one, none got up to 5.

I punished them myself. Not harsh but since they were not used to any punishment, it was for them.

I made sure they crammed multiplication table from 2x1 up to 15x15.

For the reading, I reduced their break time to less than 15 minutes.

Most of them became better readers but this girl continued struggling. Not improving.

Then I started forcing her to attend my extra lessons. All the others attend after school but she's the only one not attending.

She said her parents don't have money (in the real sense she never informed them about it).

Anyways, I said OK. But she must attend the lesson. So even without pay, I still made her stay for the lesson.

I focused on her reading and maths (you always have to get this foundation right. Aside maths and English.. Reading, everything else from primary school is almost useless).

So we spent extra 2 hours drilling maths and English together.

Into their second term, I saw dramatic changes in their work.

But something happened one day. I gave them their usual 50 questions assignment and she looked at me straight in the eyes and said she would not do it.

I told her if you don't do it, don't even bother coming to school because I'll flog nonsense from your body.

She then said she'll report me to her mother. I told her to try it first.

The next day she came to school and truly she didn't do it.

After marking everything, I flogged shege from her body that day.

The next day, the mother was already shouting from the road leading to school dragging her daughter along shouting and speaking yoruba angrily.

I didn't get a word because I don't understand yoruba.

So I ask her to speak with the cleaner and interpret to me.

She spoke that so I want to kill her daughter. So you single my child out because you don't like her and all manner of stuff.

I could have gotten angry but I didn't. I explained everything to her.

Then I asked the girl to bring her books same as her classmates. They all brought their books.

And proudly I showed her everything. The weekly increases in their scoring from each assignment.

They all read a full passage from their textbook in front of her. You need to see her happy that day.

She apologized and asked me to calculate my lesson fee she's owing but I never did.

I later gained admission into the university. At that time, one of the mother of the boys in my class came and was saying when she took her son to one Ansarudeen lesson, the teachers were really happy because he could solve questions faster and in different methods than all the other kids (he was average in my class then).

But I never stayed to see all of them get into secondary school though.

I remember back then because of the dramatic change in their performance, the proprietor for the first time had to enroll them in an all primary quiz.

This was the first ever time she had tried it because according to her she didn't want to go and disgrace her school in such competition.

Although we didn't qualify but I strongly believe if the foundations had been right and they had been more strict, we would have done better.

Little discipline goes a long way in shaping kids. Kids don't know their left from their right, yet they can be very stubborn in their ways.

As you are entrusting them to teachers, learn to trust their judgments. But more importantly, if there's an issue, don't go fighting.

Teachers can easily neglect your child and watch her self destruct in that school, not only physically but academically.

Instead, go to them to reason with them. Find out the issue. Communicate your feelings and make them understand you and you too try to understand them.

No teacher, well, maybe some and very few at that will ever single your child with the aim of maltreating them.

Even some, will have their best interests at heart while punishing them severely but don't know that they are crossing your personal line.

Communicate this to them peacefully. Don't even let your child to be in the same room while this is going on.

My one piece

So she that cannot take care of her child is suddenly fighting?

If she loves her son so much, she would have cut his hair and kept his nails clean.

American wannabes everywhere.

ponishah:
What rubbish are you saying?
Shut up!
They cut part of her son's hair and they cut his nails as well, what type of explanation do want to give about this combo?
Why...
We are Africans and we practise black rituals, and we know it

Everybody want to be dramatic nowadays. They wanna claim rights to appear more educated than they are

CJStarz:
Hair wey dem cut us during our time and our mam dem no send.

I always thought that after writing jamb, students wait to be admitted and then go to their school portal to pay admission fees, screening and registration?

Now someone is telling me that their school is asking them to pay money for screening when jamb has not even released their official results?

So they are asking all students to upload their results on the school portal and then pay N5000 as a screening fee.

So, now those who will not be admitted will pay for screening and admission that they will not be given?

I'm confused. Is this a new change because ever since I've been a student, you always write jamb, wait for admission then get your letter before uploading your stuff on the school portal.

Most of these people have never really faced consequences for their actions so they keep trying every time.

One day go be one day

L1TTLE:
Theres this girl i am getting along with, we had a connection so I thought cuz everything was easy, she likes talking to me, she gave me her number without me asking for it, we got along very easily like I've known her for long.

I had the feeling that things are getting serious so I i asked her if she's single before I waste my time, lo and behold she's not, I then asked her what's the purpose of all this then? She then shamelessly said we can be besties, I i told her point blank with disgust that I don't need a bestie, someone she can be billing while her boyfriend stays wherever he is, boyfriend duties but you're the besty, naso this girl vex and started saying everything has changed simply because she told me she's in a relationship.

What was once a delightful interaction is now resentment, we don't talk again sef.

girl love bomb you and because she no get wetin she want, she withdraw attention.

Naso dem dey do. Guy move on. E no hard pass like that

Read you'll not read. Just rush and be commenting

free2ryhme:
She didnot die in that position

she may have been killed somewhere else and dropped at that location

It's actually a good thing. But the things these companies do for profit have reduced public trust in them.

Image123:
Wow, that's impressive then.

Can this electricity roast corn now?