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welzyj2:
When you know the meaning of the word, you will understand that there is no need for arguments ....make your research

have you done your jamb registration?

agboedeh:
hmmmmm. DAT dog looks like abbeg's dog

it would have been strange if it didn't look like abbegs dog.....why?
abbeg is my brother! haha

oluomoadebayo:
YWC. Most people reinforced bad behavior without knowing but he is still very young now. You can contact a good trainer to help you with obedience without conflicts.

is there any way I can get your number?
I would really like to pick your brain about some training skills please

welzyj2:
This your post don make me wan fall .....c as the pittie dey smile for the 2nd pic if both dog's were fighting that mouth wey open go dey dig into the kangal's chest

So the dogs look like they were playing to you?
How can somebody be so blinded by their ego?... Instead of you to reply with your own receipts like I did, you're talking about gameness??
I'm disappointed

welzyj2:
Now to those of you using size to compare dog fight.....I laff u
A gamebred APBT will take down your cauc or kangal

Will try to look for and upload a video btw kangal and APBT you will see how your kangal jumped box

Sorry I couldn't get clearer screenshots but I got the parts where the Pitts got their buttswhooped

Eveezy:
But he decided to see smaller one as weaker. U know there are built guys that are still on the smaller side because of gene?

Tf

welzyj2:
Now to those of you using size to compare dog fight.....I laff u
A gamebred APBT will take down your cauc or kangal

Will try to look for and upload a video btw kangal and APBT you will see how your kangal jumped box

Note: because you watched one APBT video that the pitbull won doesn't mean it always wins...you don't know if that particular kangal was not trained to fight but the Pitt was
I've watched videos of caucs, kangals,wolves killing Pitts
Eg this is a pic of a boerbel killing a Pitt.

Please feel free to comment, tell me if I'm doing anything wrong and kindly drop your opinion
I don't want him to be a nuisance when he's an adult but I'm actually satisfied with his bravery... I just want to learn how to control him better

oluomoadebayo:
YWC. Most people reinforced bad behavior without knowing but he is still very young now. You can contact a good trainer to help you with obedience without conflicts.

Thanks Sir I was actually hoping you'll comment
That's why I put everything out here, i wanted to see people's opinion on his behavior... I always thought it wasn't normal

oluomoadebayo:
You need to work a lot on Roscoe social skill because what you explained is insecurity which could be very dangerous when he is fully matured. A dog at 5 months is supposed to be free and happy. You have to stop using the dryer to control him because you are creating a bigger problem for the future.

I would start obedience training with him right away if I were you. Take him everywhere and let him get comfortable around strangers but don't allow anyone outside your family to pet or touch him.

Thanks for your comment his behavior was cute when he was small but now....I fear he'll get out of hand. I'll try what you advised

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Let me tell you guys about my experience with my dog, it might be long tho
I actually have a CO
He is very confident and unusually brave, he started barking at strangers at 4 weeks but his confidence level was weak. Infact, where I got him he was being bullied by the other dogs but I still took a chance on him
I'm not a professional trainer but I used the help of google and forums to mould him into a very brave dog. By the time he was 2 months old, he was already a watchdog(he always barked and backed away when a stranger walked in lol)
But by the time he clocked three months, he was brave enough to charge.
I still haven't seen anything he is scared of till date (except one dryer I purposefully made him scared of)
Be it bullets,weapons,fireworks or intruders, there was this time that three men entered my compound(I came with them but he didn't see me early enough)and he came to the gate and kept on barking at us raising alarm... His legs were trembling and he peed a little but he acted confident.
When he was four months old two gsd's( one 3 years old, one eight months old) came to my gate and he out-barked them and they left.
When he was younger I could call him off but now he is getting more strong willed and he disobeys me when he's really excited I'm starting to worry I won't be able to control him again lol
Last week some children where screaming and coming back from school and I was with him outside my gate, he thought they where coming to my compound so he tried to attack them but luckily I was there to hold him back.
Right now he's 5 months old and he's still very loving towards my family but he's very protective of us.
My only hope of controlling him now is with that dryer I spoke about earlier. I actually saw this coming and made him sacred of it
Even when I take him out, he doesn't let anyone close to the car or if I move him to a different place, he continues his guarding immediately even if he has never been there before.
I don't even think I can have another dog since he's already a hand full, he also has high energy especially when the weather is cool and he's wet he will just be running around the compound attacking and destroying anything that moves.
Although he's still basically a puppy he behaves like an adult dog sometimes I have to check his teeth to remind myself.
by 6 weeks he had already started humping my leg haha
What I've observed in him is that he's very diligent in guarding the compound no matter what, there was a time my sister wanted to travel very early in the morning so everywhere was still dark, he took injections in his legs that hurt pretty bad so he couldn't even walk for days but to my surprise, he ran towards her barking.
When he noticed she was the one, he fell back down and started crying because of the leg pains. From that day, I acknowledged his loyalty and diligence, he may not be extremely smart but he covers up with his diligence and loyalty.
I also noticed that the common things you hear about COs are not entirely true, he isn't lazy instead he is pretty active during cool weather, he isn't extremely smart but he knows his job is to protect and he will rather die trying which is all I need.
note : I never beat him, I rarely chained him to a particular place but he turned out aggressive and territorial.
he has never fallen sick and he has this way of scaring people before they enter my compound, his bark and growl is like that of an adult dog, I didn't bring him outside till he was grown so people thought he was an adult because of his bark hehe.
despite his hatred for strangers, he is very affectionate towards my family and people I am cool with, once he sees me smiling and talking to you he calms down and just watches you while growling.
I don't really have any recent pics of him but I still have some older ones
here are some pics of him
Roscoe at 4 weeks
Roscoe at 6 weeks(I mistakingly gave him something that made him have diarrhoea so he lost weight oops!)
Roscoe at 6 weeks alert(and recovered from the diarrhoea)
Roscoe at 8 weeks
I just wanted to write this here please don't mind if it's too long hehe
this is just an appreciation thread for my lovely dog
I don't know if he's 100 percent pure but tbh I don't care, he's still the best dog I've ever had!

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oluomoadebayo:
Unforyunately, Kongo is dead. If I'm interested in dog fighting, I will get a gamebred dog not a Malinois. My malinois is an all-around dog suitable for human usage. A dog too big, too stubborn is not an asset.

Noo! I'm so sorry about Kongo what happened?

This is a prison dog in Russia please honestly tell us if any of your dogs can bring it down
BTW this dog wasn't fully mature yet, it was still undergoing training.

oluomoadebayo:
Will you not be there to protect a Kangal or CO? What the first clip of this video and see how a lion ran away from people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aO_6axeAx0

Sir the lion wasn't trained I have seen two lions run away from a very tiny local dog
But will you deny the fact that the lion will do more damage than any of your dogs?

oluomoadebayo:
The gun is for human safety when the dogs are not very close. Every animal has a breaking point and will run under the serious threat of human but the trained ones will give their lives instead. Now to take those CO and the like to the highest level is the question when they are too stubborn to learn new things.

They are stubborn to learn new things but killing is not a new thing and they are better at it
Which brings me down to the lethality of the kangal or CO

oluomoadebayo:
Poachers use wooden arrows only to kill lions and Rhinos. I was in SA to train with some anti-poachers dog handlers a few years ago and I have a firsthand insight on how they operate. It's the trophy hunters like Donald Trump Jnr that use guns. Still, it is the Malinois that is being trained to protect these animals.

If that dog is left alone and a pack of wild dogs come what will it do?
By showing us the pic of you with a gun you have admitted that you also have to be there to protect the malinois because it is not a very strong dog and it's agility doesn't do crap against a serious threat.

oluomoadebayo:
Disagreement shouldn't have to affect my respect if you truly do. Bite force doesn't make a dog effective but skills and training do. Majority of the dogs with the high bite force doesn't have the mental strength to cope with rigorous training programs the working dogs of today are passing through. For example, if you use an ecollar too much on a Rotweiller, that is the end of it because the dog will shut down completely. Isreal military is using sentry dogs to attack, apprehend and kill Palestine, yet it is the Malinois only when other powerful breeds should be more ideal for the job.

We all know the malinois is easier to train than the Rottweiler but is it stronger or deadlier?
A rot doesn't need training to rip your malinois to shreds.....that's my point

oluomoadebayo:
Poachers used wooden arrows only to kill lions and Rhinos. I was in SA to train with some anti-poachers dog handlers a few years ago and I have a firsthand insight on how they operate. It's the trophy hunters like Donald Trump Jnr that use guns. Still, it is the Malinois that is being trained to protect these animals.

Exactly what I said earlier, you are using the malinois to chase and attack poachers not stronger threats
If the malinois are so powerful to protect those animals, why the machine guns??
Remember when I said Earlier that when malinois are used, people are usually armed with them??

Eveezy:
u mentioned wrestling, which is an actual staged play, real sports like taekwondo, even kungfu and d rest, a fighter should be lighter, u can be built but not heavy, u must not exceed a particular weight, nd y is dt? D heavier u are, d lesser ur agility and ability to do certain moves.
You mentioned weak, y would someone weak pick up a fight with a built guy, d comparison u made in relation wit weak is best depicted as a lhasa against a caucasian

know wrestling is fake and would you use taekwondo as a metaphor for a dog fight or wrestling?
will the dogs need to do skills or just bite each other an try to inflict the most damage?
dog fights are nothing like taekwondo, even this village wrestling that people call egelege do you need to be lighter or stronger?
and BTW, a malinois is considerably weaker than a CO or kangal and I never said a weak man I said a weaker man

I'm looking forward to seeing the beautiful pups!

don't you mean Antarctica?

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Eveezy:
I mentioned in my earlier post that any big person can be used as a bouncer to scare people away, but to get a job done, you need someone flexible.

Once again, Gra Gra no dey win d race!

So you're saying if a smaller weaker but flexible man is determined to beat a burly fighter he will be able to do so?
why do you think fighters work on packing on mass when training?
with your logic, they should be loosing muscle mass and work on their agility instead
the funny thing is that even in wrestling matches, the fighter's weight is also stated showing that it matters....you can't weigh 30kg and expect to take down someone weighing 300kg
even if a malinois should bite a Caucasian, with it's weak bite force and small head it'll only get a mouth full of fur
Once again, script is not reality
Stop quoting all these sayings of people that didn't know better lmao

oluomoadebayo:
CO is a guard dogs like you claimed but people are entrusting their lives with a Malinois. There is a saying that says “It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”

Lol they are entrusting their lives into the hands of the men with guns not the malinois...
Their was also a saying that "an apple a day keeps the doctor away" so my point is that many old sayings are bullcrap like this one you said

oluomoadebayo:
You can only know which dog bites better if you are under a suit and not behind a computer.

See what someone is saying... Are you the first person to train dogs?
Are you the first to where suits to train dogs?
Do you think the people that measured it didn't have the correct equipments or what?
Did you travel around the world in your suit for all those dogs to bite you or only your malinois?
Why not go around and get the proper measurement for the bite force let's update Google
Perfect example of you using "experience" to dismiss facts like Google is wrong and you are the only dog trainer in the world with the correct answers....I used to respect you and I also loved your threads but now....

you guys are so quick to call for a "practical" between an untrained CO in Nigeria and a well trained malinois that has been trained since childhood.
I said I wasn't going to comment on this thread again but, olumoadebayo will you be willing to fly Kongo out to Russia to face their well trained prison dogs?
probably not because you're going to come back alone.
your dogs are well trained, stop comparing them to untrained CO's in Nigeria
and BTW malinois are used in the White house because of the same reasons they are used by police, they are just their to sniff chase and apprehend not kill.... imagine the white house being guarded by kangals, the results will be catastrophic.
you still haven't made any point other than dismissing facts and further proving the already known fact that malinois are good working dogs and saying "let's have a real life practical with your untrained CO"
I will say this again for the last time, malinois and Caucasians,kangals e.t.c are very different dogs with different uses...they both excel at what they do but let's not get crazy and say a malinois can beat a kangal or a CO.
I have even seen a case where a guy that had 2 gsd's and one CO got attacked with armed robbers.
the gsd's fled at the sound of the first gunshot but the CO stayed and fought of the thieves. the dogs where not professionally trained and they reacted out of instinct.
an untrained malinois can run at the sound of a bullet or stay and fight, it all depends on the dogs confidence. stop painting them like they where born confident an diligent to their duties.
again, your malinois are well trained if you want to compare the efficiency of the dog, check the well trained CO's in Russia.
if a fight between a well trained malinois and a well trained CO should happen, the CO will decimate the malinois... this is a very logical fact(irrespective of the love you have for the breed).
a malinois is and will never be as deadly as any mastiff of molasser dog(another fact)
if you can read about these two breeds and also watch videos of their attacks and still say the malinois will win.....then you are a bigot.
it's just like saying a skinny well trained fighter will be able to beat a huge muscular also well trained fighter because she's "agile" or "brave" or she has so much " fight" in her.
agility can only take you so far when your opponents hits are as powerful as five of your hits and also when your opponent can literary lift you up from the freaking ground!
forget movies and what the predetermined script has said, the skinny girl will die a very messy death.
until you can share a pic of a malinois doing something that shows it has as much power as a mastiff or molloser....your "experience"means crap
don't overhype your dogs and lie about what they can do because you love them...I understand how you feel but I still need to call you out on your bigotry bro
you have beautiful and well trained dogs but their usefulness has a limit, stop painting them as the " jack of all trades " of dogs.
I dare you to post a pic of malinois being left to guard a place or apprehend enemies without armed men standing by to actually get the criminal..... they are good for sports, tracking, sniffing out things and chasing and catching things and people doesn't mean they are deadly or as powerful as mastiffs
I have seen kangals and COs being left to guard farms and villages from bears and wolves but never malinois.
the COs are left on their own to guard these places but a malinois is never on it's own in case a real threat comes by.
I have read about a Tibetan mastiff that fought a whole pack of wolves(it later died after successfully warding them of) can your strongest malinois do that?
please call a spade a spade and stop all this senseless argument
until you can show me where malinois are left alone confidently to guard places like monasteries, farms, fields and prisons, you still haven't proved anything.
Malinois are wonderful dogs in their own way but please don't paint them into being what they are not
this comment is getting too long let's just end it like this.....if you are reading this, forget everything we said in the comments and go and research malinois and kangals or CO...watch their attack videos and use your own judgement to end this argument

Peace

oluomoadebayo:
Effectiveness of the bite is the most important thing but I guess you haven’t work a dog in your life because it’s getting ridiculous with these irrelevant claims.

it's a normal thing for experience to come with bigotry so I'm done arguing with you.
you still haven't said anything to prove your point except flaunting your experience and calling my facts "irrelevant".
because you are a malinois expert doesn't make you a dog expert, just read up on other dogs except malinois.... you'll be surprised

agboedeh:
they are recruiting d malinois becos of their speed, flexibility and ability to learn fast.but u can't see d Russians use a malinois to guard livestock from bears and wolves..they would simply ripp d malinois apart.
these dogs are bred for diff purposes... d Caucasian for their strength, bravery... d malinois for their speed,flexibility,intelligence and loyalty(thats what the police force look for in a dog)

This guy has said it all

oluomoadebayo:
I don’t know how killing wolves is relevant to the scope of this thread but I want to remind you that they are classified as Herder which means they protect the flocks against the Wolves.

CO lost her glory many years ago and majority of the CO in this world now are bred for shows. Working people don’t take the breed serious because of they can only work perfectly in a specific weather.

you still haven't understood my point...a malinois is not a strong dog
your malinois are well trained but let's not deny the fact that a well trained CO in it's habitat will have your strongest malinois for breakfast.
let me show you something... this is the record for dog bite force
kangal 746 psi
CO 550-700 psi
bullmastiff 556 psi
Rottweiler 328 psi
pitbull 235 psi
German Shepherd 238 psi
malinois 195 psi
human 145 psi
can you see that a malinois can barely bite harder than a human? yet you compare their strength to other dogs that are obviously not in their league.
because you get to see your malinois in action doesn't mean other dogs don't do better..
I like your dogs and I think they will be efficient in their line of duty but please don't overhype them.
a malinois is basically a smaller German Shepherd.
you will never see a malinois guarding a herd because it will be ripped apart by any predator but you will see them sniffing out drugs and tracking thieves.
they are good dogs in their field yes but they are deficient in the strength aspect.