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jeff1607:
how is your feeding regimen?

mainly diamond dry puppy food and chicken
then occasionally, plain rice and chicken, dry fish, biscuit bones, milk, multivitamins and cod liver oil
p.s I was giving him pedigree canned food but I stopped and stuck to dry food because he could finish one carton in less than two weeks

Namdeenero:
Olumoadebayo is right, a Caucasian dog is one breed you have to bring under your control else they'll control you.. And they're very stubborn too

I saw your dog.....very beautiful
how do you keep her under control?

fowlyansh181:
dont listen to this , if the dog from 7 months isn’t aggressive, then it will be super hard to change .. first isolate it , if it whimpers out of fear in an unfamiliar event, then it would bark crazy when approached by a rigorous event.. don’t use force on it. Lock her during the day and unchain her at night, don’t let her feel like it can do whatever it wants whenever or wherever.

I think triggering the dog's aggression isn't what he should do right now, the dog looks very meek and will probably become unpredictable after the aggression whatever
and it's actually possible for dogs to start barking later than 7 months, I attached a pic of one thread I talked about earlier showing how a dog roughly the same age as this one started barking later
what he should be doing is not locking the dog up throughout the day, instead he should be socializing that dog, the dog looks scared and easily intimidated, aggression training is going to be unpredictable.
you should worry when your dog hasn't started barking at 9 months because puberty has already taken place and if the dog isn't territorial then, it'll be an issue
my dog started barking at strangers at 4 weeks(that's to show you how the time they start barking differs) but my neighbour's gsd doesn't bark at strangers at 3years(the guy tried this aggression training on the dog without properly observing the dog's temperament and now you can simply walk into his house and the dog won't even look you in the eye.
the dog is only aggressive to other male dogs now
well...it's only my opinion but I think this dog is not mentally ready for aggression training what it needs is confidence and bravery first before the aggression to chanel it

savagefinder1:
tease it with a live chicken
that will bring out its aggression

When I tried that with my dog, he tried to eat the chicken alive

don't try any aggressive training you'll most likely hear from people
you might just break the dog's spirit, from what I'm seeing, that dog is very meek
build the dog's confidence by;
taking it out to socialize( let it see cars and crowds but don't let people pet it too much if you want a security dog),
letting it roam without a chain for sometime(just keep an eye on it if you don't live in a fenced compound)
exposing it to different sounds so it doesn't get scared of loud noises
playing and interacting with the dog( try playing tug of war if it agrees to play, that game always works)
when all this is done, create a couple of fake scenarios eg; sometimes ask someone to pretend to break into your house when the dog is on guard, when the dog barks, let the person look at the dog and run
this exercise makes the dog understand that people can be intimidated by it and also make the dog brave
during the first couple of barks, never ignore the dog, just congratulate the dog or give the dog attention so the dog will understand that barking gets your attention (just don't overdo it unless you want a noisy dog)

another reason I suspect why the dog isn't barking is that it's being dominated by that other dog
I have a friend who has a gsd and a CO, the CO was the dominant dog in the house so the gsd never barked. some times the CO also humped the gsd and the gsd never even resisted
everything changed when I suggested the separation of the dogs, he moved the gsd to his sister's place and within few weeks we were hearing stories of the gsd barking and fighting other dogs around.
when he brought the dog back, the dog was barking like a regular dog (although the CO was still dominant, the bullying reduced)
I don't know if it will work for you but it's worth try
don't feel bad yet,the dog is still growing so it can change

Hamatoyoshi:
And a seven month old dog is still young......

yes some dogs don't start barking till 9 months sef
I've seen a guy on NL that was complaining about his dog that was not barking at 6 months but later by 9 months the dog changed totally (you can search for the thread, I can't really remember the name)
some dogs stay till a year sef
he just needs to try to trigger the dog's barking instincts and give it time, the dog will most likely start

what was the dog's puppyhood like?

at 7 months, the dog is still young.
just give it more time, some dogs are late bloomers.
just try and boost the dog's confidence and let it grow naturally Into being territorial

I don't have any vendetta against you olumoadebayo and I'm not trying to attack you
I'm still a fan of your work and I still admire your dogs
I'm not looking for any bad blood between us, don't take it personal....they're just facts that even you can't change

If internet knowledge is so dismissable, how come you taught I was a trainer before you found out I didn't even have a pure bred CO?
I still Stand by the same facts you still haven't proven wrong, malinois are excellent dogs for tracking chasing and sniffing out things but they are not better guard dogs than well trained pure bred COs and other guard breeds
COs and other big dogs are also more lethal In an attack than any malinois
A malinois cannot take down a kangal or CO in a fight
A malinois is not a very strong or deadly dog
Malinois are only used in the military because of their speed,size, health,agility and mental capability not because they are better than every other dog
A well trained kangal or CO can properly attack intruders and guard a place or person well, they are not as slow, stupid and useless as you made them seem
Malinois are better working dogs but not better guard dogs
These dogs are two different dogs for two different purposes, don't make it look like the malinois can do the work of every dog better than the dogs that were actually bred for them
They are both good at what they do, don't downgrade a breed to hype your product

oluomoadebayo:
Anyone that is reading silently, do not buy Caucasian in the name of security in Nigeria. If you do, find a dog trainer to test the dog before risking your life on the animal.

You made it look like they where terrible guard dogs here also, I also showed that they were awesome at their jobs when well trained like other guard dogs

oluomoadebayo:
I will not ruin your dog by any means but I can hit with my legs. No weapon and I might wear a padded costume. You are free to record. If your dog attacked without running away, you win.

I can do it anytime this week.

This was also wrong, I have a video of COs dodging the kicks of intruders and still attacking them without backing down

I'm just going to be quoting all the things you said that I proved were wrong so you'll see that I'm not attacking you, rather correcting the false things you were telling people

oluomoadebayo:
I will not even test with a bullet. I only need a water bottle or a little agitation stick.

I showed you pics of COs countering the water bottle and agitation stick attack without backing Down unlike you said they would.....

oluomoadebayo:
Most dogs you mentioned will run away under serious pressure from an intruder. People are breeding them for size now instead of the spirit.

This is what you said that caught my attention.. The way you made it look like big dogs weren't effective
I'm not wasting anybody's time here because I'm the only one here with pics to back up what he's saying
I'm not here to attack you I'm just trying to tell you what you said is wrong

oluomoadebayo:
I have an idea of every ringsport in the world but you won't see me saying anything when the real sportsmen or women are talking. All I do is to listen and learn because I don't have the privilege to be where they are.

Exactly why I said I get you, it is actually annoying for someone who doesn't have as much experience as you to correct you but get this.....
How would you feel if one of the ringsport players says that there is a technique he used in which him and his opponent levitated throughout the length of the match?
Would you just "listen and learn" or just realize the person is lying immediately.
Then what if you later check the websites of other ringsport legends and you see that no such technique exists then you tell that other guy only to watch him tell you that you can never understand because you are not a ringsport player?
That's how I feel when you tell me what I'm seeing in other countries is my opinion because I don't have experience like you
I may not have experience but I have eyes, a brain to understand, and internet to see what other experienced people are doing
The videos are not animated and I have like 20 of them.

space9880:
Oluomoadebayo had a rott from one of the best bloodlines in Europe he gave out for free don't think he only has experience with malinois.

The guy is undoubtedly a good trainer he's just wrong about the things he said
There are also people that can train dogs better than he can, and he can't just put down things that are happening as opinions and beliefs because he trained a couple rotts and COs in Nigeria

oluomoadebayo:
I have trained a CO, Rotweiller, GSD and even a Boerboel but I don't have experience with big dogs?

For instance, I know you can't apply pressure to a Rotweiller until he fully matured. I know A CO needs enough socialization with a slow and gentle approach before he reaches his full potential. Yet, I don't have experience with them. I'm not interested in who is wrong or right but a fair argument with no attack. Like is said before and I'm sorry to respond to this, I'm no longer responding to you. This thread is about my program and not about your ideal or beliefs. I wish you the best and stay safe with your CO.

Well you have trained a CO Before and you stated things that the CO wasn't able to do, but I showed you screenshots of videos of COs doing all of them
That just shows that you're not as good a trainer as you made us believe
This argument was as fair as can be,
you stated your opinion,
I said they where wrong,
you insisted,
I posted googled facts,
you said googled facts could be inaccurate,
I posted video clips of the things I said happening,
you still call them my beliefs even though I proved them to you as facts.....
The videos weren't animated where they?
You are still my favourite Nigerian trainer despite all this....I just had to call you out on your mistake
Even professors are wrong sometimes just take your "L" like a man

jeff1607:
I understand your point sir, each dog has it's strong points as well as weaknesses, it's also not too easy diversifying ,a reputable breeder can sincerely focus on one or two breeds , adding more would be like having a puppy mill.

you can't have everything , take one at a time and be a pro on it.

let's say you become successful in breeding our local dogs here to international standards say 15years you won't be comfortable when a noob comes and tells you stuff know isn't the PRACTICAL TRUTH. we all have our ways

learn about your breed and focus on it, even international dog Judges can't be in every competition of different dog breeds, they need focus also

I'm not the one that breeds local dogs that's agbogeh
And my theories have also been put into practical (although not by me) and I was able to get videos of the things happening (turns out I was correct about what I was saying
I also talked about the strengths of a malinois and also their weaknesses
People then denied their weaknesses and made them look like super dogs which isn't true so I had to speak up

oluomoadebayo:
I have never claimed to be the best but I'm properly working to improve myself in anything I'm doing. I don't even think I'm better than you but the fact remains that I'm the owner of this thread and I'm a positive advocate of a Malinois breed. I have a practical experience that you don't have. Talk is cheap and people like you won't learn because you always think you know better.

The beauty of social media is everyone has an opinion but it is rude when you take it beyond that and start attacking people with a different opinion to yours. Buhari also thought there was nothing called subsidy before becoming a president. You can always create a counter thread to call out this one if you think I'm wrong but your ego won't let you be. I will stop responding to you at this point but you need to learn if you want to grow in this field. IRE OOOOOO!

My problem with you was the way you made big dogs look like trash because you have smaller dogs
You don't have experience training big dogs but you talked about them like you already knew their reactions and how they work
Now I've proved everything you said wrong you're acting like the victim?
I never said I was better at what you do than you
I always gave you honor about how well trained your dogs are when it was due
I only stated that your opinion was the farthest thing from fact and even went ahead to prove it by posting pics from other dog trainers I follow
I only started commenting on this thread when you started lying about some things and I wanted the public to know the truth
Everything I said, I backed it up with proof meanwhile everything you said, I countered it
You can act like the victim of an " ignorant inexperienced egomaniac" if you want because I know I'm not that person
At least people can go back to the beginning of the thread and read up on the argument... That's another beauty of social media
I'm also tired of replying you so we can just end it here and let the public pick who was wrong here

oluomoadebayo:
Who says caucasian cannot guard, my argument is about effectiveness. Thank God you have your new thread now, direct people to it while you are raising your dog. I have an idea of every ringsport in the world but you won't see me saying anything when the real sportsmen or women are talking. All I do is to listen and learn because I don't have the privilege to be where they are. Your knowledge with Google is different to reality and if you have anything else to proof at this junction, open a thread and invite me or if you think you can't draw the same traffic like this, I can open it for you while you take over it

See what I said earlier?
You are now focusing on my untrained impure CO to make it look like you're right about your claims
We both know im not a dog trainer so why not focus on the dogs of other professional dog trainers like the ones I posted let's see if you were right about the things you said

jeff1607:
experience goes a long way ,it takes sacrifice,loss and also gain to get to that level.


most here don't know how to read a pedigree chat or understand what DNA profiling is (to ascertain everything in it's ancestry) or understand what an ovulating strip does.

the cost of buying equipment for training , getting quality stuff for our pets, nutritional facts (how foods are absorbed not just proteins alone as @imfortress earlier said) , watching every poop the dog leaves and studying it , understanding a particular behavior and referencing it to a particular ancestor. imagine keeping a particular offspring after 4 generations you still notice a white patch that you dislike taking into consideration after it was LINE BRED and you finally think this potential puppy would be outcrossed, it's back to the drawing board.


even if a local dog is kept, each parent has to be discarded to keep a viable offspring and it takes sooooooooooooo much effort.


how many of us fully use our dogs to it's full potential not talking about videos ( hands on experience), taking her to learn how to swim, guarding a farm or it's animals, even helping doing chores, even overseas peeps who use dogs fully aren't in the city most are in suburbs or rural areas (counties)


it goes beyond google.

I know it takes experience to raise a dog properly but that's not my issue
My problem is the way they bastardized big dogs like they can't do anything and used the term "experience" to defend their claims
The annoying thing is that they haven't even trained other big dogs like how they have trained their own dogs yet they claim to have "dog experience"

welzyj2:
Lol....big boy sorry ooo

The reason I joined the conversation was when you were spitting trash about a breed I cherish -APBT and my comments have been directed towards the breed alone.....

Dumb skull you can't separate Gameness from APBT....thats the whole essence of the breed

Any trained dog can do what we have all said on this thread but the point is which can do it better.

Funny enough you don't have one and you talking abt them....boy kindly get out of my sight

I may not have one, but many people have and thanks to the internet, I can follow their progress.
Like I said, disprove me if you can

For those of you that painted COs as "slow" and "lazy"
They may not be as agile as some breeds but they are not slow or lazy
This is one jumping over a fence to get an intruder

More pics of COs facing multiple and armed intruders without backing down

First and second pics are of a CO attacking two armed intruders who invaded it's family's property while the family watches from the background

The first pic is of a pitbull terrier challenging a CO
Second pic is of the CO dominating the pitt..... The fight lasted for mere seconds before the CO won
Third is of a CO defending the place from an armed man

First of all, these screenshots are from videos I got from a European website.... I couldn't get clearer versions of the videos I downloaded ( some where even recorded with CCTV)
But the thing is that they're clear enough for you to tell what's going on
Secondly, the scenes where all staged to see the reaction of the dogs
The first pic and second pics are for those of you that said COs can't guard people well.......she was walking her dog when a man ran towards them like he was trying to attack her
The third and fourth pics show a Tibetan mastiff protecting that old lady that was attacked by a man with a rod without backing down even after being hit multiple times
More are still coming

welzyj2:
Google will only give you faint ideas.....
First hand experience is needed to know any dog breed...


It's obvious you are jus a lazy boy who just enjoys trolling.....

Lol I'm the lazy boy who enjoys trolling?
You still haven't said any valid thing throughout the length of this argument I don't even know what you're still doing here, it's obvious you can't keep up with the big boys lmao
Out here ranting about "gameness "
I dare you to disprove any thing I've said so far or just stfu
You're just here dick riding olumoadebayo while he does all the work
Say anything other than "gameness" I dare you

Maybe I should try and screenshot some of my videos

welzyj2:
To be a dogman goes far beyond Google knowledge.

How was the google knowledge gotten?
Do you think people just stayed and guessed facts to post?
Mehn gtfo

oluomoadebayo:
It is very funny and strange how many people became an expert on this thread but very sad when I realized many of you cannot create a meaningful thread of your own because you have nothing to say. You don't even have good dogs to boast with but you jumped to the chance to flex your muscle on someone else thread instead of you to watch and learn.

Most of you have not seen a real CO or Kangal in your life, yet, you are talking as if you leave with one.

Nobody can become a medical doctor with information online only, you need to pass through the process of schooling, training and practicing to become one. It is the same as a dog expert, you need to walk the talk and not just be a social media expert.

do you need to have a cheetah to know it's the fastest land animal?
do you need to be a doctor to know malaria is caused by plasmodium?
some things are just facts that experience isn't needed to confirm
I have visited several forums and websites of dog breeders far more experienced than you are and they all say one thing then you're out here telling us you have "experience" because you train malinois?
I presently have videos in my phone showing kangals and COs doing things that you tell us they can't to back up all my claims and the only thing you have is the "experience" card you're so eager to play every time
you only have experience with one breed(which is the one you favour BTW) so stop flaunting your inadequate experience
anybody with logical reasoning and the internet not clouded with childish bigotry will be able to see what we are saying is very true
I have watched videos of it happening, I have a brain to understand what's going on, people all around the world have verified it as a fact and yet the only thing you have is "experience"
you are not the only breeder/trainer in the world, you are not even the best so you have no right to say the googled facts and videos are false
I get you love your dogs but facts are facts...you and all the people supporting you still haven't given any proof of the things you're saying
meanwhile, I have posted the specs and pics of the dogs I'm arguing about and I also have numerous videos of the things happening (which I'm not able to post) and yet your greatest counter argument is " you have more experience "
I have videos of COs and kangals flipping grown men,countering agitation sticks,being beaten with rods and overpowering the intruder with the rod without backing down even after you said they have lost their glory over the years.
I even have videos of COs jumping fences to get to intruders and taking on multiple attackers at once without backing down missing their target and turning back to attack immediately again, all things you made it look like they couldn't do
until you can share valid proof to back up your claim, stop telling us about experience or gameness
either you give any other valid point of argument that hasn't already been successfully dismissed as stipulation by me or someone else or you accept defeat, stop all this experience bullcrap

franky156:
Hey Guys; Am Over the Moon.

I will Update with how everything went by tomorrow.

She had her first pup by 4:40pm which she did not take care of but my Wife did because i was still @ work.

But from the 2nd Pup; My very active & Harsh Friend Major did a Fantastic Job.

7 Cute Puppies as at 9:34pm.

Few close friends of mine came to assist me; am awake and literally keeping a close watch on these AMAZING CUTIES

Special thanks to @Doxarised for coming around to tutor me first hand on things to do.

Helping Myself to some indoor barbecue & some Brandy.



Thanks to everyone who wished major a safe & seamless whelping process.

yes! finally
congratulations on the pups!
I hope they turn out as beautiful as their mama
enjoy