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hakeem4:
well i cant claim him as my father cause he probably never existed.

lol
Maybe you need a refresher in bible class

MuttleyLaff:
"Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?
(i.e. I am the LORD, the God of all humankind. There is, indeed, nothing too difficult for me)"
- Jeremiah 32:27

You have confirmed what God in Jeremiah 32:27 was conveying about being the God of all flesh or the God of all humankind, that He is the God of the good, the bored and the fugly

He is God of the good (i.e. Abram/Abraham), He is God of the bored & ordinary (i.e. Isaac) and He is the God of the fugly bad (i.e. Jacob/Israel)

Correct again bro
He's not just the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob nor is He just the God of
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But The God of All Flesh

Ex3:6
New American Standard Bible
He said also, "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." Then Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.

Apart from the fact that God had covenanted with these three men, He takes them up as representative personages. He chooses them to represent three types of men in the world. What type of man is Abraham? He is a giant of faith. He is rather uncommon; in fact, he is quite special. As the God of Abraham, God declares himself to be the God of excellent people. Yet, thanks be to God, He is not only the God of the excellent. Were He merely this kind of God, we would sink into despair because we are not persons of excellence. But God is also the God of Isaac. What type of person is Isaac? He is very ordinary. He eats whenever he can, and sleeps as he has opportunity. He is neither a wonder man nor a wicked person. How this fact has comforted many of us! Yet God is not only the God of the ordinary men, He is also the God of the bad men: He is the God of Jacob too, for in the Scriptures Jacob is pictured as one of the worst persons to be found in the Old Testament. Hence through these three persons, God is telling us that He is the God of Abraham the best, the God of Isaac the ordinary, and the God of Jacob the worst. He is the God of those with great faith, He is the God of the common people, and He is also the God of the lowest of men such as thieves and prostitutes. Suppose I am special like Abraham; then He is my God. Suppose I am ordinary like Isaac; then He is also my God. And suppose from my mother’s womb I have been bad like Jacob was in that I have striven with my brother; then He is still my God. He has a way with the excellent, with the common, and with the worst of humanity.

MuttleyLaff:
I dont think ichuka is satisfied that his questions have been given fair treatment answers so the following reattempts to shed more light.
1/ Why does God not declare himself as the God of Adam?
Answer:
You first, need to know who God is and how God is defined

God is a force that has the ability and capacity to do anything. God is a power that has the ability and capacity to make anything act in a particular way.

God couldnt declared Himself as the God of Adam, because Adam by choice and freewill decided not to be influenced by God

2/ For we know that Abraham sinned even as Adam did. Why then did He not call himself the God of Adam?
Answer:
It has nothing to do with knowing that Abraham sinned even as Adam did, but that the incriminating evidence is that Adam disobeyed God, and so this act prevented God from able to call Himself the God of Adam. On what basis, what will justify God calling Himself the God of Adam

3/ Why did He not say the God of Abel, the seed of Adam?
Answer:
God could have said that about Abel that He is the God of Abel, but He didnt. He didnt say so, not necessarily that it isnt true but that God in His wisdom didnt say it.

4/ Why instead did He call himself the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob?
Answer:
God started with Abram, when He influenced Abram, and told Abram to leave his country, his relatives and his father's house to a place He would show him, then after when Abram obeyed, God made a covenant with him (i.e. read Genesis 15:18-21 about it)

The promise God made with Abram didnt just stop or end with Abraham, as God kept the promise going, by repeating and confirming it to Abraham's son, Isaac (i.e. notice this in Genesis 26:3, where God said to Isaac: Live here as a foreigner in this land, and I will be with you and bless you. I hereby confirm that I will give all these lands to you and your descendants, just as I solemnly promised Abraham, your father)

The assurance given to Isaac was continued and passed on to Isaac's son, Jacob, later known as Israel (i.e. notice how in Genesis 28:13, it staetes that, at the top of the stairway stood the LORD, and he said, “I am the LORD, the God of your grandfather Abraham, and the God of your father, Isaac. The ground you are lying on belongs to you. I am giving it to you and your descendants)

God calls Himself the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob based on the promise He made and the formal agreement to each one of those individuals

5/ Why according to the flesh was our Lord Jesus presented in the New Testament as having been born of the seed of Abraham?
Answer:
#1/ Abram believed God, and God because of this, counted him as righteous because of his faith.
#2/ The prophetic, the first gospel mentioned to Eve in Genesis 3:15, began to unravel with Abraham, when God in Genesis 22:18, said to Abraham: "In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice." There ichuka is why, according to the flesh was our Lord Jesus, is presented in the New Testament as having been born of the seed of Abraham.

6/ Why from among all men should God have called himself the God of these three particular persons?
Answer:
Revisit the answer given in #4 above.

"Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?
(i.e. I am the LORD, the God of all humankind. There is, indeed, nothing too difficult for me)"
- Jeremiah 32:27

Meanwhile if I were you, I wouldnt be splitting hair, because King Darius in Daniel 6:26, honors God, with the "God of somebody" line, by stating: "I make a decree, That in every dominion of my kingdom men tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: for he is the living God, and stedfast for ever, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed, and his dominion shall be even unto the end."

Remember, the word, God is synonymous with "influential power". God is a supernatural entity and has the capacity to have positive effects on someone's or something's character, development and/or behaviour. God is the Affect, that brings about positive effects. The word God, is closely associated with influencing or tending to suggest an idea of influence

ichuka, Jeremiah 32:27 above just re-echoes that the Yahweh, is God over every creation, creature or creativity, as in, God, in the sense that He influences and/or influenced them

Thanks so much Bro
I will add something to what you have already said in my next post regarding the three personalities .
Thanks again

solite3:
The reason is because of the covenant he made with Abraham which was passed on to isaac and Jacob hence he introduce himself as The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

But He also entered a covenant with Noah after the flood
Gen9:17..New American Standard Bible
And God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant which I have established between Me and all flesh that is on the earth."

paxonel:
Who says God did not declare that he was God of Adam?
by giving Adam instruction on what to do and Adam obeyed, what do you call that, man to man relationship?

There's a difference between a student in the university and someone that just wrote jamb.
The latter is trying to be admitted into a school,while the first already carries the school name.

2special:
He does as he please... No one can't question his action

God always has a reason for doing anything.

BeLookingIDIOT:
How about Enoch,Methuselah,Noah and the rest.Notice how Abraham,Isaac,Jacob and so are those forming the Jewish genealogy.The Jews made the bible basically about them- the so called chosen people.

Yes not God of Enoch and Noah etc

MuttleyLaff:
Nwanne, hi, long time. The reason is because as you know, the word God, is synonymous with "influential power". God influenced Abram when he told Abram to leave his country, his relatives and his father's house to a place He would show him, and Abram obeyed. Adam when he disobeyed God's word, didn't do so under the influence of God. So therefore, gets himself disqualified from having God seeing Himself, as the God of Adam. Its just as simple as that. If further illumination is needed please don't hesitate to ask

You are right Bro.
But my view point is on Abraham Isaac and Jacob why not just God of Abraham alone,why must He include Isaac and Jacob too?
He choose these three personalities for a reason.

Father I thank you for your Mercies,Grace and Favour in my life in Jesse name amen.

Why does God not declare himself as the God of Adam? For we know that Abraham sinned even as Adam did. Why then did He not call himself the God of Adam? Why did He not say the God of Abel, the seed of Adam? Why instead did He call himself the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob? Why according to the flesh was our Lord Jesus presented in the New Testament as having been born of the seed of Abraham? Why from among all men should God have called himself the God of these three particular persons?

Hmmm

ochibuogwu5:
Great Grace!!!

Indeed!!

Ihedinobi3:
Hello there.

Thank you for your kind words.

Regarding your observation and advice, on the one hand, I had meant to keep the lessons coming, but the new series I picked up turned out to be pretty heavy. Additionally, Nairaland seems to lend itself better to my Q&A projects than to exhaustive teaching. That is why I eventually left this alone. That is not to mention other delimiting circumstances that have intervened over the months. The work that I am currently tied up with is probably never going to be posted on this thread, although I originally meant it to be.

On the other hand, starting out, I did want significant engagement from readers on this thread, but that was never going to be even likely, because it is the rare person who is even interested in really studying the Bible the way that it should be, and because here on Nairaland everyone wants to be a teacher. For these reasons, engagement, if it ever happens, tends to be for the worse rather than for the better. So, the style of writing used was meant to discourage the sort of liveliness that Nairaland is used to. Clearly, it succeeded at doing so. I don't think that to be a loss. Anyone who loves the Truth is almost certain to find this thread on Nairaland, and the lack of rampant activity on it will not turn them away.

Cheers.

You are right bro.
Not just NL but Nigeria at large .
Majority of our youth hate reading.
God will continue to see us through
Just keep it up.as been lead by the Spirit.
Cheers

amen

The city has no need of sun or moon, for the glory of God illuminates the city, and the Lamb is its light. (Revelation 21:23 NLT)

Light is not a mental thing: that is to say, it is not just a matter of having a store of mental knowledge. That is not light. It is possible to have an enormous amount of doctrine and truth and never be luminaries, that is, never register impact upon darkness. Real light is experimental: that is to say, it is the fruit of experience, the experience of suffering. How have you children of God come to know what you do know of the Lord, that real kind of knowledge of the Lord which is so precious to us, which means so much and which makes you in that measure of value to others? It is through suffering, it is through the difficult way the Lord has led you, it is through the work of the Cross that He has wrought in you. “The Lamb is the lamp” – suffering leading to knowledge, to light, to understanding. It is the only way. These people at the end will be in the good of a great and wonderful revelation which has come by their fellowship with Christ in His sufferings. It is very true. It may not be too comforting from one standpoint, but it is true; and it ought to help us to realize this: that the Lord, in the way in which He is dealing with us, in the sufferings which He allows to come upon us, is really seeking our education, that we may have a knowledge of Himself which can only come that way, and which is a peculiar kind of knowledge of tremendous value to us and through us to others. We do not learn in any other way. It is the Lamb, always the Lamb-principle, the way of suffering and sacrifice and self-emptying, that brings us into the knowledge of the Lord. “The Lamb is the lamp thereof”; and, just as it is deeper death unto fuller life, so it may often be deeper darkness unto fuller light.

The Lord seems to lead us in a way where we are less and less able naturally to understand Him. He gets us altogether out of our natural capacity, beyond our capacity for interpreting His ways. We just do not know what the Lord is doing, or why He is doing what He is doing; yet it is the way by which we come to a very real kind of inward knowledge of Himself. It may not be capable of explanation in words to anybody, but we know, somehow or other we know, and that is a mighty thing, a mighty power of knowledge. It is light through the Cross.

Hi bro
It's a beautiful thread,but it has to be lively
I saw these thread like 2months back.
You need to be stable.
Thanks

hmm

My Father,thank you for Your Mercy,your Grace and Blood that continue to speak better things in my life and Destiny in Jesus name amen

amen

Hey

ochibuogwu5:
This is the major issue with our present day or generation of Christians. The Holy Spirit lead me to this truth just this August, 2019. For the past 22-years of struggling with the flesh to become like Jesus Christ without knowing that "what is born of the flesh is flesh and what is born of the Spirit is Spirit"
(John 3:6)
Christianity is a LIFE not a doctrine.
Christianity is a PERSON (Christ Jesus Crucified) living through the mortal-bodies of those who willingly and sincerely believe in his gospel after checking the advantage (Eternal-Life) and disadvantage (death of the flesh) of becoming a genuine Disciple of Jesus Christ.
Christianity is not *a motivational psychology* or *utterances* but A LIFE!!!!
Great grace

Correct bro!!
Gen2:22-23 says That God took a rib from Adam and made the woman with it.God didn't mix Adams rib with the dust/sand or any other thing before He made the woman.Adam too didn't accept any other thing expect what came from him to be his wife.
So it's with the Last Adam,He will never accept any other thing accept what came out of Him to be His Church.
Rom5:14
Our flesh(our natural decent,our blood)can never be accepted in the church.
Before we became Christains we are talented,filled with wisdom and eloquent.
When we became Christains it's natural to use these great wisdom,talents and eloquent in the church.but Christ is saying NO! It's not part of Him and can never be His bride/Church.

Romans8:5Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.

Thank you Father for your Mercy and Grace upon my life.in Jesus name amen

Gen6:3And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive[a] with man forever, for he is indeed !FLESH!!yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”
We must put our flesh to death.

You must warn each other every day, while it is still “today,” so that none of you will be deceived by sin and hardened against God. (Hebrews 3:13 NLT)

We talk about our motives, and we say, "Our motive was right!" We talk about our conscientiousness, we talk about our intentions; but you and I do not know what lies behind what we call our good motives. There is a deceitfulness about this human heart that defies our greatest attempt at tracking it down, and we shall never do it.... Here is where the church has become such a confused thing, and such a tragedy; for the prevailing idea is that if you give yourself over to God He will take you up and use you: "Bring over your humanity and consecrate it to the Lord! Consecrate your old man to the Lord, and go out and serve the Lord, with a consecrated old man!" it is utterly contrary to the teaching of God’s Word. The result is that in the work of God all the world over you have people serving the Lord in the energy of the flesh, in the reasoning of the flesh, in the emotions of the flesh. Meet them, counter them, frustrate them, and you meet something evil; you meet with a fight, a division, a schism, a scattering, and wholesale resignations.

Do you see what a havoc the enemy can make in that which is called the church, because people with best intentions and purest motives have come to serve the Lord with all their own intelligence, their own strength, and their own emotion? They have not seen that God has closed the door to the old creation, and that God’s attitude is this: "The only thing that can satisfy Me, that can serve Me is My Son, and if you are going to come into My service, He has to be the energy of everything, the Life of everything, the Wisdom of everything!" He has to be the governing, ruling reality in everything. It is not to be a matter of your impulses, but of His urgings and leadings by the Holy Spirit; not your sitting down to reason out what it would be good to do for the Lord, what ought to be done, what needs to be done, but what He shows you, nothing more.... You and I must not bring over our old creation and give it to God, expecting God to use it. God begins with birth. The church of the firstborn is something quite new, and it comes out of a death. That death is the death of an old creation, and the resurrection is of something that is not the resuscitation of an old creation, but the resurrection of something wholly of God.

Abba Father I thank you,for your Mercy that have swallowed up every judgement in my life .
Thank you Father in Jesus name amen

May we never leave or go weary in His hands in Jesus name amen.

OLAADEGBU:
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They should give him a break pls.