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I am Crucified with Christ:nevertheless I live;yet not I,but Christ liveth in Me:the live which I now live in the flesh I live by faith of the Son of God, Gala;2:20.
Paul have no personal opinion or thoughts of His own,whatsoever He says or do personally is the opinion and thoughts of Christ.

@godmother,Christains dont tithe,please go through some old post on these topic.

"The Words which i have spoken to you are spirit"jhn6:63,Men were inspired/spoken to by the Holy Spirit to write every single word in the Bible,they never wrote any words by themselves,they were inspired by the Holy Spirit to write even word in the Bible,wether they wrote about  Satan and a speaking dog/donkey it is still Gods word,God told them to write it because its His word.

Roms7:20-24,there's a law in your fresh that war against your mind,it seems theres two different entity in you,what you willeth to do,you doeth not,that which you willeth not,you find yourselves doing.the Bible calls it the Law of the flesh.we cant surpress or control it.we have to be free from it,thats the work of the Holy Spirit,(the Law of Spirit)

@op,well said!

Like what am saying;the two(Christ in us and we in Christ)are two different things,just like Sin,sins,the law of sin,the law of death.if we are not careful we would mix them up.the Righteousness of our Lord Jesus and the Lord Jesus as our Righteousness are two different things if we are not careful we wld mix them up.

Dear brothers in Christ(joagbeye,ehimarelaw and newti).you are still mixing two different things which are connected up.we in Christ and Christ in us(jhn15:4-5).we are not fully united as one yet(marriage on His second coming).we in Christ  have never Sin,and knew no Sin,even before God created these world we are already in Christ,hw can we know Sin,when Adam dont even exist then!(ephesian1:3-5).the problem is when Christ is in us here on earth,the part of Christ that is in us is pure,Holy and Righteous.the problem is not Christ atall,but,we that are born of the flesh,the will of our parents,and by our parents(jhn1:13)because He is in us our spirit groaneth waiting eagerly for adoption as Sons by it been fully redeemed in His second coming(Roms8:23).
Now lets go through your verses.
1john3:2;beloved,now are we the sons of God,(its a question)and it doth not yet appear what we shall bethat is we are Sons but it have not manifested yet).but we know that,when He shall appear(that is the second coming)we shall be like Him(marriage 2 becomes 1)for we shall see Him as He is(that is as He is so would we be).
John1:12.but as many as received Him,to them gave He power to BECOME(A PROGRESSIVE TENSES!)Sons of God.
The Apostles(Paul and john) wrote to us from two different point of veiw from the heavenly when we are in Christ,and from earthly point of veiw when Christ is in us,we have to know the different or we will end up mixing everything up.cheers!

@zataxs,its(flesh) our greatest enemy we have to be free from it.

@ehimarelaw,you and joagbeye are mixing things up.See!there is a BIG!difference between we(Christains) been in Christ(In the Heavenly places)and Christ in us(on earth).all the verses you quoted have to do with us in Christ,we in Christ have never Sin,because His nature(Holiness)is now our nature,how can we Sin?that's impossible.Listen!please!the problem lays when Christ is in us here on Earth,why's it so?because the ruler of the earth is the prince of the air(satan).he is still in power here on earth,we have not yet been FULLY adopted as SONS and we still wait for the redemption of our body(Roms8:23).which will happen in the Second coming of Christ.even Paul the apostle cried that his body is full of Sin(Roms7:24-25).you said we(Christains) make mistakes,what do you mean by mistakes?if what you meant is telling little lies,lusting inwardly,boasting and getting angry,the Bible calls those things sins.and who is a Sinner?anyone that make mistakes/commit sin.brother as long as there's blood in your body,you were born by earthly parents and by there will you are a Sinner period!(jhn1:13)take care!

You cant force somebody to be Holy and to you Love,it just cant be done.God can command the Heavens and Earth to obey Him,but He cant command us to Love Him.Love commanded is not Love atall.

@joagbeye,of course as we are in Christ there no problem?in fact we have never Sin and cnt Sin,the PROBLEM is when Christ is in us,didn't you read my last post well?it seems you are reciting what you are been taught/told.not just what you understand/know,we Christains have that problems most of us,the earlier we Christains start studing our bible personally and stop believing or doing everything other say that better person we will become,just open your eyes and be objective in reading my last text again,take care.

@joagbeye,of course as we are in Christ there no problem?in fact we have never Sin and cnt Sin,the PROBLEM is when Christ is in us,didn't you read my last post well?it seems you are reciting what you are been taught/told.not just what you understand/know,we Christains have that problems most of us,the earlier we Christains start studing our bible personally and stop believing or doing everything other say that better person we will become,just open your eyes and be objective in reading my last text again,take care.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them,Matt;7:20.
In the old testament,Samuel instituted the school of prophets,for two purposes;1,the dissemination of religious knowledge and the writing up of the chronicles of religious history.all the false prophets came out from the schools of prophets(expect balaam)they were different from the living,anointed prophets.prophecy  is just an aspect in the lives of a prophet,it is a gift(Christains can ask for such a gift from the Lord).the ministry of a prophet and the prophet are not two different things,its not something that you can take up,it is something that you are,that is,the vessel(the prophet) itself is the ministry,we cant divide the two.those that prophesy only and called themselves prophets dont even know who a true prophet of God is,

@zataxs;for once u are right,Christainity is a miracle,to a Christain miracles are deemed normal.

@zataxs;to "SEE" who you are,and what you are predestined to be even here on earth

@Joagbaye,why do Christains Sin?its because they are Sinners!Christains do tell lies,they sometimes have unclean thoughts,we even lust after the flesh and the world,are these things not sins?Yes!they are!we lust,tell lies and have unclean thoughts because we are Sinners,these happens,when Christ is in us,but as we are in Him,there's no problem,for we have never sin and cant sin,there are two realms;1:we in Christ(there's no problem for in the eyes of God the Church have not sinned and knew no sin),2:Christ in us(that's where the problem lays,)jhn15:4,there are two realms,though both are connected.let me give u an illustration;my surname is Chuka,i didn't choose the name,i am Chuka because my father is Chuka and that because my grandfather is Chuka,wether i behave or act like a Chuka,am still like Chuka,if i become the president of Nigeria,a bishop or a begger today am still a Chuka,i cant change who i am,why is that?because i was born a Chuka,so because i am born a Chuka,to be free,i have to die a Chuka,it is by birth i became who i am to be free i have to die,thats the work of the Holy Spirit in our life,applying the Cross to our mortal body inorder to constitute Christ in our being,transforming us into His image and likeness,in the Godhead Christ is the only one with an image(Gen1:27-28).

@Joagbeye,
Romans7:14;For we(Christains)know that the law is  Spiritual:but I am CANAL,sold under Sin.
V17;Now then it is no more I that do it,but Sin that dwelleth in Me.
V18;For I know that in ME(that is,in my Flesh)dwelleth no good thing for to will is present with ME;but how to perform that which is good I find out.
V22;For I delight in the law of God after the Inward MAN(that is He delight in doing the will of the Spirit in His spirit).
V23;But I see another law in my members(Flesh) warring against the Law of my mind(that is warring against the Law of Spirit).and bring me into captivity to the law of Sin which is in my member.
Paul was speaking to the Church in Rome,using Himself as an example,though he willeth to do good in His inward mind,there's a law in His body warring against His spirit,why?it's because He was born of blood,of the flesh,and by the will of a Man(jhn1:13).He(paul)  also groaneth inwardly,waiting eagerly to be adopted as a Son,and for His body to be fully redeemed(Roms8:23)

Romans5:19.
For as by one man's disobedience many were made SINNER'S,so by the obedience of one shall many be made Righteous.
The question is,who is a sinner?-Everyone who was born in Adam is a sinner.we are sinners by birth(jhn1:13)it doesn't matter what kind of person we are,provided we are born in Adam,we are sinners.if we sin we are a sinning sinners,and if we sinneth not,we are moral sinners.provided we are human beings,we are sinners.we are not Sinners because we sin,rather, we sin because we are Sinners.
Though our sins are forgiven,we(Christains) remain Sinners.
In 1Tim1:15,Paul didn't say his sins were not forgiven,but,he was a Sinner.He(Paul) cant deny the work of God in his life,neither could He deny  his position in Adam.
we(Christains) have recieve more Grace in Christ,but,God hasn't fully removed the problem of sin on earth.the problem of sin won't be fully solved untill the new Heaven and new earth appear.
Although,the works of our Lord Jesus Christ is finish(Salvation).
We(Christains) groaneth within ourselves,waiting for the Adoption,the Redemption of our body(Romans8:22-23).
May God bestow more Grace to His Church,and May the HOLY SPIRIT continue to constitute Christ in Us,by removing our position in Adam in Jesus name.

@zataxs,whenever you are ready to SEE,just let me know!

@op,
Psalm11:3;if the foundations be destroyed,what can the RIGHTEOUS do?
Romans8:22-23:For we know that the whole Creation groaned and travaileth in pain together untill now.
23;And not only they,but OURSELVES also which have the FIRTFRUIT of the SPIRIT,even WE OURSELVES groan within ourselves,waiting for the adoption,to wit,the Redemption of our body.
Even the apostles groaned within themselves,because they knew there body is still under a curse,they groaned within inorder to break loose from the curse of there mortal body,

@zataxs,what i told sweetnecta is applicable to you,"THE BLIND ARE NOT THOSE THAT DOES NOT SEE,BUT,THOSE THAT DONT WISH TO SEE"

Song of songs;2:8-9,
The Voice of my Beloved!behold,He cometh leaping upon the mountains and skipping upon the hills.(9) my Beloved is like a roe or a young hart:behold,He standeth behind our wall,He looketh forth at the windows,shewing Himself through the lattice.
Our Lord Jesus is likenen to a hart in the heading of psalm22,where there is the expression."the hind of the dawn" or "the hind of the morning".these refers to the morning of the first day of the week,when Christ resurrected.it is the starting point of a person's spiritual life,and it is signified by a new day.both verses 8 and 9,speaks of the vitality of Resurrection.in the Bible the mountains and hills refer to difficulties and barriers."He cometh leaping upon the mountains,skipping upon the hills"this means that nothing is too high or too great to stop Him.He has overcome all difficulties and barriers.difficulties and barriers are things of yesterday.He is living in the next day.in verse(9)a Wall exist between Her and Lord.The Lord have to bring Her to a new experience of what He "IS",not just what He can do.by the manifestation of His Resurrection power.
In Jhn11:21;Martha said,Lord,if you hadst been here,my brother had not died.our Lord replied Her saying;I am THE RESURRECTION and THE LIFE, (jhn11:25).it's not a matter of time,whether,it is too early or too later,it is a matter of ME.if I came five days ago or three days ago,it would be the same.now that I have come a few days later it is the same.
Nathanall said"Nazareth!can anything good come from there?(jhn1:46).our Lord explain to him that it's not a matter of His earthly family background but a matter of who He IS,before the earth was formed(jhn1:51).
Nicodemus says;how can this be?(jhn3:9).Christ told him that its not a matter of my miraculous works but a matter of receiving Enternal life and entering the Kingdom of Heaven(jhn3:3,jhn3:5).
Peter answered"Master we have worked hard all the night and haven't caught anything, (luke5:5).in Luke5:6,our Lord reviled to him that it's not a matter of how hard you have worked all night or all your life,it's a matter of obeying My Will in your life.
Thomas said,"unless i See the nail marks in his hands and, i will not believe"(jhn20:25).our Lord made Him to understand that it is the Revelation of the Spirit in our spirit that counts,(jhn20:29).
May our Lord Jesus Christ grant us(Christains) more Revelation of whom He IS,in Jesus name Amen.

@sweetness;THE BLIND ARE NOT DOES THAT DONT SEE,BUT,THOSE THAT DONT WISH TO SEE;JHN9:39

@op
"THAT WHICH IS FLESH IS FLESH"
go through my recent post-the flesh and God's prescription.

@Hisrib, matt7:7-9;ask Him and wait for His reply,He will definitely answer u,for He is ur FATHER,but,u have to wait for the answer,stop looking for prophets in the net,the Devil is very wise and has more than 6000yrs of experience with humans,the best thing to do is to ask Him directly let Him direct u on what to do.and be patience with Him,He cant give you stones/snake instead of bread/fish,

@zataxs,
!STICK to your Species!

@mabell
matt5:4-10 is your portion remain bless,

Gen6:3,jhn3:6.
In the beginning Man was constituted spirit,soul and body.the soul is connected to the spiritual World through Man's spirit.the soul must decide whether it is to obey the spirit and hence be united with God and His will or is to yield to the body and all the temptations of the these material World.on the occasion of Man's fall,the soul resisted the spirit's authority and became enslaved to the body and its passions.Man's spirit was denied its noble position and was reduced to that of a prisoner.since the soul is now under the power of the FLESH,the Bible deems Man to be FLESHLY or Canal.that is what soever is soulical has become FLESHLY.
"THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE FLESH IS FLESH"-jhn3:6;Man is born of the flesh,therefore,he is flesh:everything a Man naturally inherits from his parents belongs to the flesh.no distinction is made as to whether the Man is good,foolish,useless or cruel.
"THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE FLESH IS FLESH"as soon as a man is born he is FLESHLY,every Man of the World has been begotten of human parents and is consequently judge by God to be of the FLESH(GEN6:3);A man is FLESH because he is born of the of blood,of the will of the flesh,and of the will of Man(jhn1:3)and not because of how he lives or how his parents live.
"THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE FLESH IS FLESH"No Exception,No Distinction,No amount of Education,Improvement,Cultivation,Morality or RELIGION can turn Man from being FLESHLY,no human Labor,Power,Device that can make Him other than that of which he was born,our LORD JESUS said "IS" mean the matter was forever decided.
God looks upon the FLESH as utterly corrupt.the corruption of the FLESH is such that even the HOLY SPIRIT of GOD cannot by STRIVING against the FLESH render it UNFLESHLY(GEN6:3).
God recognizes the impossibility of the FLESH to be Changed,Improved or Bettered.in saving the World,HE does not try to alter Man's FLESH;HE instead gives Man a New Life in order to help put the FLESH to death.
The FLESH must !DIE! this is "SALVATION".
May God grant us(Christains)more Grace through HIS SPIRIT,
May HIS SPIRIT continue to apply the CROSS in our mortal body,inorder to constitute more of CHRIST in our being in JESUS name ,

True talk! U are blessed!

For there are THREE that bear record in Heaven,the FATHER,the WORD,and the HOLY GHOST,and these THESE THREE ARE "ONE"-1jhn5:7.

@Docjay487,God is merciful.He will definitely grant us more Grace in these age.
@joagbeye,benjamin(gen35:17)samuel(1sam1:16) was brought forth out of travail,the principle is also seen when only a minority led by Ezra,Nehemiah,Zerubbabel and Joshua, came back to build the temple and the city of Jerusalem.what they did was reckoned as the recovery and returning of the whole nation.

Gen3:16,Unto the woman He said,i will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception,in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children,
Rev12:2,5.And she being with a child cried,travailing in birth and pained to delivered((v5)And She brought forth a Son,a MAN-CHILD,who is to shepherd all nation with an iron rod, The Woman in Gensis3 typifies the woman in revelations12,which is the Church.that is the condition of the Church in these present age.the Church which God desires must have a perfect relationship with Christ.but,since the Church have not attained to God's full purpose and satisfaction,He will chose a group of overcomers who will attain His purpose and fullfill His demand.
This is the principle of the MAN-CHILD.been brought forth in travail.
In the old testament God chose the people of israel to be a Kingdom of priest, that is the whole nation was to serve Him and be His priest.Exod4:22-23,Exod13.however,not all the people became priests,because they worshipped an idol.therefore,Moses charged the people of israel,saying"who is on the Lord's side let him come unto me;Exod32:26.And all the Sons of Levin gathered themselves together unto Moses.then Moses said to them,"thus saith the Lord God of Israel put every man his sword by his side and go in And out from gate to gate throughout the camp and slay every man his brother,his neighbours and they did according to the word of Moses.Exod32:28,they were willing to serve God above all there human affection,so God chose them to be His priests.the whole Israelites approaches God through the Levies,,what the Children of Israel should have offered unto God,the Children of Levin offered for them,the service of the Levites before God was counted as the service of the whole nation of Israel.only the Children of levi are priest but,the whole nation of Israel benefited from their priesthood.
In the same manner,the work of the MAN-CHILD is for the whole Church.the work belongs to the MAN-CHILD but the Church receives the blessing of the work.the business is theirs but their accomplishments bring glory to the whole Church.
The reason for their coming forth is to fullfill God's Enternal purpose.we have to admit that the Church have failed,therefore,God is calling forth the MAN-CHILD to stand for the Church and fullfill His Enternal purpose.
May God have mercy on these generation and bring forth a MAN-CHILD,
May they be as selfless as Paul the apostle.
May they reject ecclesiastical favours.
May they say nothing that will draw men to himself but,only that which will move men to God.
May they unstop the ears of millions who are deaf.
May they cry with a voice these century have not heard because they have seen a vision no man in these century have seen.
FATHER,LORD JESUS send us a MAN-CHILD to lead us from the wilderness of crass materialism,where enlightened men,totally blind Spiritually are leading us to an ever nearing destruction.
LORD have mercy on us.