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My Father and my Lord,may thy name be highly magnified, glorifled and exalted in my life,may all praise and worship be adorned to your Holy name in Jesus name Amen.

@op
got in through the back door of where?
@image123
hw can one "Enter" aso rock without an "Access" card?if he(satan)"Access" have been revoke,how can he "Enter"?
So Jonathan can grant Access to his enemy to Enter aso rock,who formally plotted a coup against his Government.is that possible? without first granting the person pardon(forgiveness).

@op
Exd3:8says;So I have come down to rescue them,
God came down from His Throne in Heaven,to rescue His children.He can still decide to summon His Heavenly court to present them before Him while He was there speaking with Moses.
Satan plotted a coup which he lost and was banned(cast out)from Heaven.how can he return when he have not been forgiven?
Relate it to these world system of government is it possible?

@op
Thank God the servant of God seek help on time and l presume some brethren were not inflicted with the spirit of lust.

@op
All am saying is that it have nothing to do with Heaven/the Throne of God,

@op
Ish6:1says;, i saw the Lord seated on a throne,high and exalted,and the train of His robe filled the temple.
Verse3says;And they were calling to one another"Holy,holy,holy is the Lord Almighty,the earth is full of His glory"
in Ish66:1;God said "Heaven is my throne"
my question to you,1;is Satan Holy?
2;can an unholy being be found in the Throne of God?
God is omnipresent in His creation, doesn't mean that His Throne is approchable to unclean spirits.

@op
He(Jonathan) is the commander in chief,He have sovereignty over Nigeria,and can decide to summon his cabinets members within the confine of his sovereignty(any state,city,local govt,or town in Nigeria).

@op
for instance,President Jonathan is in Warri and the members of his cabinet(members of the Heavenly court)came and present themselves before him,Warri is not even the capital of Delta state not 2talk of Nigeria.

@joagbaye
wether big,small,half or whatever form you put it, its still a Lie,and the source of all lies is Satan,anyone that lies speaks Satans native language,

@op
in the verses you quoted Heaven was never mentioned,our God is omnipresent,He dwelleth in His creation,Satan have been cast out of Heaven,he have no access to Heaven,

@op
there was no mention of Heaven.

@joagbaye.
An example of what am saying is "Lies".Christains consciously or not,do tell lies.and there's a spirit/demon thats in charge of lies(1King22:22;"i will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all the prophets".and the source of all lies is Satan(John8:44;when he(satan)lies,he speaks his native language,for he is a liar and the father of LIES).thats just one and there are a thousand and one things we have to be deliver/free from.

@op.
Deliverance is a continual process in the life of a Christain.thats the meaning of the verses you quoted(Jhn1:11-13).its needed until we(Christains) are fully adopted and redeemed as sons of God(Rom8:23).

Putting on the outward Christ(1:14).
Verse14,says"My beloved is unto me as a cluster of camphire in the vineyards of Engedi" "camphire" is henna,and it's used for fingernail dye."Engedi"is a town in the wilderness of Judah(Josh15:61-62).the meaning is "the fountain of the lamb",a place David took refuge when Saul was after his life(1Sam23:29,1Sam24:1). "the vineyards"(plural) ministries standing on the ground of the Church.
"My beloved is unto me as a cluster of camphire"Christ have become her outward adornment."In the vineyards of Engedi" through her ministries Christ is been confessed and testified outwardly to the world.

The Kings praise(1:15).
Verse15 says"Behold,thou art fair,my love,behold thou are fair;thou hast doves' eyes"
The purpose of the Lord's praise in verse15 is for encouragement.the first"thou are fair" encourages her,whereas the second "thou are fair"praises her eyes as been "doves eyes"Literally the eyes of doves denotes the beauty of her natural eyes,but spiritually,it undertones spiritual insight,because she have recieved Revelation,the King can praise her.

The indwell Christ(1:12-13).
    Verse12-13.
"While the King sitteth at His table,my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof,a bundle of myrrh is my well-belove unto me;He shall lie betwixt my breasts".
Verse12says"while the King sitteth at His table,my spiked senders forth the smell thereof". 1Kings4:22-23 pays special attention to Solomon's table."the King sitteth at the table" refers to her enjoyment of the Lord's riches.her feeding and enjoyment is only"while the King sitteth at His table" as she feeds and enjoys with the Lord,her "spikenard" spontaneously "sendeth forth the smell thereof"just as the the outpouring of the ointment of spikenard from the story of Mary(Jhn12).the more she feeds the better her consecration and praises unto Him.
Verse13,says:A bundle of myrrh is my well-belove unto me,He shall lie all night betwixt my breasts".
"myrrh"signifies Christ Crucified,after our Lords death Nicodemus anointed His body with myrrh(Jhn19:39)."A bundle of myrrh is my well-belove unto me"she's saying the Cross is been applied unto me.
"all night"silent period. "my breasts"refers to her faith and love,(1Thes5:8;But let us,who are of the day,be sober,putting on the  BREASTPLATE of FAITH and LOVE, 
"He shall lie all night betwixt my breasts"she's saying;though He is silent "all night"my faith and love in Him shall never slumber.

The Kings Praise and Promise(1:9-11).
:9-11,"I have compared thee,O my love,to a company of horses in Pharaoh's chariot's,thy cheeks, are comely with rows of jewels,thy neck with chains of gold.We will make thee borders of Gold with studs of Silver".
:9-10,describe the beauty  she possesses naturally,while verse11,describes God's work and the beauty that comes from God.these 3verses speaks of six things,
1, HORSES:horses are know for there strenght and swiftness."horses in Pharaohs chariots"signifies the best among all horses,spiritual speaking ,it denotes her natural strenght and swiftness.
2,CHEEKS;the beauty of a person is determined by the cheeks.
3,Rows of Jewels:her hair was braided on her cheek like "rows of jewels"denotes are natural goodness.
4,The NECK:"neck with chains of gold" signifies her natural gentleness,a neck without necklaces represents a stubborn neck.
5,Borders of GOLD:it takes considerable time to beat gold into borders,"WE" will make thee"Gen1:26,God said"let US make"God promise to replace her "rows of jewels" with "Border of GOLD"(God's Righteousness,Life,and Glory).
6,"Studs of Silver" Silver means Redemption,"studs of silver"that is standing on the Redemptive work  of the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ.

For there are THREE that bear record in heaven,the Father,the Word,and the Holy Ghost.and these THREE are ONE(1jOHN5:7).

The King's Answer(1:.
:8says"If thou know not,O thou fairest among women,go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock,and feed thy kids beside the shepherds tents".
"If thou know not"word of rebuke,'Dont you know' "O thou fairest among women" 'You that have recieved more Grace than others' as you have recieved from Me "Go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock,and feed thy kids beside the shepherds tents". "the flock" is the Church,"thy kids" are young Christains, "shepherds"(plural) those under the Lord's training(she's not the only student), "tents"(plural) different meeting ground.
Her "kids" are "beside" the shepherds tents, the Lord intends that she secure a meeting ground for herself beside other shepherds tents and feed "thy kids".as she recieves from Him,while she pursures,her daily duties  mustn't be ignored(she must feed the younger believers).

@italo.
Like i said earlier in my former post,
The rich man asked Jesus what he must DO to inherit Enternal life(Matt19:16).though according to him he had done everything since his childhood,but he still LACK something(:20).if he had done it all,why is it that something is still LACKING in his life?answer,ITS IMPOSSIBLE to DO to Enter,but POSSIBLE by Faith in His finished work at calvary(:26).

REVELATION in the inner Chambers(1:5-7).
Verse5,says,"I am black,but comely,O ye daughters of Jerusalem,as the tents of Kedar.as the curtains of Solomon"
"I am black" in His chambers she discovers her filthness(blackness),however she sees her acceptance by the King.hence she says"I am black,but comely"comeliness refers to her acceptance.
"O ye daughters of Jerusalem"some saved one's, "As the tents of Kedar,as the curtains of Solomon" Kedar means a dark chamber,"Curtains of Solomon"refers to inward beauty,in the chambers she sees her filthness,and the worldliness of people around her,the "Daughters of Jerusalem"are worldly,though they are saved.
Verse6;"Look not upon me,because i am black,because the sun hath looked upon me,my mothers children were angry with me,they made me keeper of the vineyard's,but mine own vineyard have i not kept"
"Look not upon me" she became ashamed of herself because of the Revelation recieved by her in the chambers,the Holy Spirit then gave her strenght to confess and testify before men under the"sun","I am black the sun hath looked upon me",and because of her confession her close relatives and friends became angry with her,for she have decided to keep her "own vineyard"(doing God's will in her life)and forsaking her former ways"keeper of the vinegards"
Verse7 says;"tell me,O thou whom  my soul loveth,where thou feedest,where thou makes the flock to rest at noon;for why should i be as one that turned aside by the flocks of thy companions" she asks 'Lord,why would You not tell me?why will i be lead astray"turned aside"for so long,all i ever needed is You,for You are my food"feedeth" and my perfection"rest at noon".

@brainpulse.
The reason why 2day is the 30th of November 2011,is also the same reason Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
And just as there's no difference between 1th and 2th of Dec. 2011,there's no difference between God and the Son of God

@op
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT, 2DAY IS THE 30th OF NOVEMBER 2011?

PURSUIT and FELLOWSHIP.
In Verse4,She prayed saying;"Draw me,we will run after Thee".Although she desire to pursue after our Lord always,she  often feel a lack of strength for the pursuit.as she pray and worship Him,His Spirit within her becomes her drawing power inwardly,resulting to her pursuing power outwardly.the more He draws her,the easier it becomes for her to pursue Him.
"Draw me,'We' will run after Thee".as she recieve  Grace before Him,others will surely be affected by Him.
Verse4b;"The King hath brought me into His chambers" her previous prayer is being answered"the King hath brought me into His chambers"
the "chambers" are the "secret place"(Pslm91:1).unless we have personal friendship with a person,we won't bring him in our chambers(secret place),it signifies the begining of Fellowship and Revelation.others that are blessed through her Fellowship and Revelation in the chambers,proclaims;"we will be glad and rejoice in Thee,we will remember Thy Love more than wine,the upright love Thee".
"we will be glad and rejoice in Thee,we will remember Thy Love more than wine" others knew that since God has begun His work,He will surely complete it(Phil1:6).there present experience fills them with hope for the future.
"the upright love Thy"that is their love comes out of a good conscience(1Tim1:5).

The first verse says,"the Song of songs,which is solomon's"Solomon wrote a thousand and five songs(1Kings4:32),this happens to be the best and the most precious one,consequently its called the "Song of songs".
The Song of songs describes a Christain spiritual fellowship with our Lord Jesus Christ after been saved.
A spiritual pursuit of He that dwelt in the "Holy of  Holies".
A pursuit after the"King of kings and the Lord of lords"(Rev19:16).
The Song of songs shows that we are a wife to the Lord,who is our Husband.
          YEARNING.(1:2-3).
Verse2 says"Let Him kiss me with the kisses of His mouth;for thy Love is better than wine".
She doesn't say who Him is because in her mind,there's only one "Him" who is our Lord Jesus Christ.
Every Christain have recieved the kiss of forgiveness,by the neck(Luke15:20),these kisses are not on the cheek,as were Judas's(Matt.26:49)nor are they on the feet,as were Mary's((Luke7:38).they were "kisses on the mouth" a sign of personal affection,she longs for a "kiss"which is personal expression of Love.
This inward urge is the begining of all spiritual progress.spiritual edification can't be separated from a pursuit thats based on hunger and thirst.
Our Lord said"Blessed are those who hungry and thirst for Righteousness;for shall be filled(Matt5:6) and in 1Cor1:30,says God has made Christ our Righteousness.
We(Christains) pursue because we have recieved a Revelation in our spirit by the Holy Spirit,because of the Revelation recieved by us we can proclaim"thy Love is better than wine".
Of everything that brings forth joy,elation,and excitment in our lifes under the sun,the Holy Spirit shows us that nothing can be compared to His Love.
Verse3;"Because of the savor of thy good ointment thy name is as ointment poured forth"
psalm45:7-8;says,Thou loves Righteousness and hated wickness;therefore God,Thy God,hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows,all thy garments smell of myrrh,and aloes and classi,out the ivory palaces,whereby Thy have made thee glad.
Our Lord Jesus Christ is the Anointed one,God has anointed Him with the Holy Spirit,He have recieved all kinds of ointment from the Holy Spirit,
"Thy name is as ointment poured forth"His name is an attraction toward us and by His name we are reminded that God has come forth and made His dwellings among us,
"Therefore do the virgins love Thee" because of Yourself(the ointment) and Your name(the ointment poured forth) all the Redeemed have loved you.

@italo
so you are calling our Lord Jesus Christ a liar,by your last post to me,that one can enter Heaven without Baptism?
Is that what your Bible tells you?
The problem is that you dont even know the mean of that word"Expect one is born of water and the Spirit he can not enter the Kingdom of God"John3:5.
You should have asked,and let someone will educate you,

AND THESE IS YOUR "QUEEN"?
Jer44:18;but since we left off to burn incense to the "Queen of Heaven"
Jer44:25, we(Catholics)will surely perform our vows that we have vowed to burn incense to the "Queen of Heaven"and pour out drink offerings unto her.
Rev18:7;give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herselfin her heart she boasts,"I SIT AS QUEEN;I AM NOT A WIDOW,AND I WILL NEVER MOURN"

@italo
so what you are saying is that one  dont have to believe to inherit Enternal Life according to(John3:16).or one dont have to be born of water and the Spirit to enter The Kingdom of God(John3:5).?that by pouring water upon an infant he/she now have access to God's Kingdom?is that what your Bible tells you?
Broda,there's no catholic or a catholic church in the Heavens of our Lord Jesus Christ,
The bitter Truth is there's no infant Baptism,from Genesis to Revelation in the Bible nothing whatsoever is said about infant Baptism.
You guys are simply helping the Holy Spirit on our own.

@italo
so base on the Faith of the parents infant are Baptized?into what actually if i may ask?
@fr
what's your point,so because Christ was Baptized at aged 30,therefore you guys must Baptized infant?
2.because Christ did so many things that wasn't written,(John21:25).you guys helped the Holy Spirit,by adding some of your own doctrine,
Forgetting that we are told not to add or subtract from the Bible(Rev22:18-19)

@italo
what's the meaning of the last scripture you quoted(1Cor7:14) is the thread about marriage? Or is it  about Baptism,more precisely INFANT BAPTISM.
Please if you have no scriptural backing to assert your claims on infant Baptism,i advice you educate your people to cease from  that act,
thank you.

What is Baptism?.
Our Lord told Nicodemus,"Truly,truly,I say to you,unless one is born of water and the Spirit,he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God"(Jhn3:5).
Paul says"or are you ignorant that all of us who have been Baptized into Christ Jesus have been Baptized into His Death?we have been buried therefore with Him through Baptism into His Death,inorder that jus as Christ was raised from the Death through the glory of the Father,so also we might walk in newness of life.for if we have grown with Him in the likeness of His Death,indeed we also be like in the likeness of His Resurrection"(Rom6:3-5).
Collns2:12,says"Buried together with Him in Baptism,in which also you are were raised together with Him"
in the above verses,both our Lord Jesus Christ and Paul spoke of the Reality of Baptism.
The physical aspect(water Baptism) is merely an acceptance,declaring to the World, what have already taken place in us,that we(Christains) are no longer of the World,we are born of God(Jhn1:12)that as we grow in the likeness of His Death(that is been Dead to the World)we will also walk in the newness of His Resurrection Life here on Earth(Roms6:3-5).water Baptism is jus acceptance of what have already taken place,how do we explain all this to an infant or a child?
Our Lord Jesus said,"let the little children come to me,and do not hinder them,for the Kingdom of God "BELONGS TO SUCH AS THESE"I tell you the Truth,anyone who will  not recieve the Kingdom of God like a little child will never enter.(Luke18:16-17).
In essence Christ was saying,as children are obedient to there parent,we(Christains) must by obedient to His Word(HolySpirit) in order to enter His Kingdom.
Thats the meaning of "BELONGS TO SUCH AS THESE".

@Folaski.
if you really have anything to contribute,please do back it up with scripture.for views to see,thank you.

Rom6:3-5,Paul says"Or are you ignorant that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?we have been buried therefore with Him through baptism into His death,in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father,so also we might walk in newness of life.for if we have grown together with Him in the likeness of His death,indeed we will also be in the likeness of His Resurrection"
how do one explain to an infant(or a baby) in baptism,that when Christ died 2000years ago he/she died in Him,when He Ressurected he/she Ressurected with Him,that as He(Christ) is,so also are they in the likeness of His Resurrection.
There's nothing like infant baptism in the Bible,its not scriptural.