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GlobalWay:WTF is this ![]() And people are actually liking this. Nawa ooooooo. |
joyandfaith:The US had an agreement with Russia not to extend NATO by any inch to the borders of Russia. Why did she not honorably abide by that? Also, we did not speak of justification here when NATO led US invaded Libya, Vietnam,Iraq, the assassination of Iranian General etc. The way we scrutinize the policy actions and criticize countries of the world, we should examine the US and her foreign policy moves the same way. |
Blablamalala:Yes, to some extent |
Blablamalala:Thank you, as graduates of International relations up to higher degrees level, we owe the non experts some of these explanations. Thanks you boss. |
Hanks0000:No, that's not true. Russia is not an Islamic country by any standard. And US can refuse to negotiate with any one or group that threatens her national security, any country would do the same. But America is not an all saint country, that can never do wrong. They had committed so many foreign policy blunders in the past and Ukraine is just the latest. Read the above write up. Leave the Muslims or Christians out of this. This is pure international relations and not ethno religious politics that we are used to in Nigeria. |
To understand the #ukrainecrisis, four dates are very important, 1962, 1989, 2008 and 2014. Lets begin: (1). [/b]1962[b] In 1962, the Soviet Union/Russia tried to install a military hardware in Cuba, which threatens US directly because Cuba border them by water. The then president of US, Kennedy threatened Russia with World War if they do not remove their military installation. The Soviet premier Nikiti Khrucshev rebuffed him which brought the world close to nuclear Armageddon, where it took 13days of negotiation, military diplomacy, death of an American military pilot, destruction of an American spy plane and the removal of American missiles from Turkey, to solve. That's what we came to know as The Cuban missile crises of 1962. (2). [/b]1989[b] The Berlin wall fell in 1989 and the process of the integration of the western and eastern Germany started. 1989 is really important because as the process of integration were going on, James Baker, the US secretary of state promised the Soviet union/Russia that NATO (military organization led by the Americans) will not expand one inch towards the Russian border. This promise went a long way to facilitate the unification of Germany as we know it today. This is significant because when the Soviet union fell in 1991, the US broke that promise in multiple ways by expanding NATO to the Russian borders to include countries like Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Czech Republic etc. Fastward to.... (3). [/b]2008[b] In 2008 during NATO summit held in Romania, there was a very strange push by the then President of US, George Bush, to include Georgia and Ukraine as members of NATO (remember 1962, Georgia and Ukraine shares a land border with Russia), Germany, France and Italy rejected the idea, but the Americans forced a very aggressive line in the final communique, it says: 'Nato will not accept Georgia and Ukraine today, but they will be members someday'. Alarm bells went off in Moscow. Putin then said that including Ukraine and Georgia in NATO will be a threat to Russian security, he reminded the world of America's reaction when the Russians tried the same thing in '62. He further stated that it will emboldened them on a military adventure against Russia. This Putin's statement came true because some months later, then Georgian president, Mikhail Saakashvili, who was emboldened by George Bush after he visited Tbilisi, fired multiple rockets towards South Ossetia, which killed six Russian soldiers who were stationed in the breakaway region. This led to war between Russia and Georgia durind the Beijing Olympics. Russia destroyed Georgia. (4). [/b]2014[b] In 2013, the EU offered Ukraine a trade deal, and Russia offered Ukraine a counter trade deal (details can come later). Ukrainian President then YanuKovich, accepted the Russian trade deal saying that Ukraine and Russia has a long history of trade and it will be difficult for their companies to compete in the European market. This angered the US and they mobilized a protest against the president using the western part of Ukraine population against him, (Ukraine is an evenly divided country between east and west. the president was from the east, voted for by the people in the east, hated by the people in the west, and the capital is in the west. Imagine Buhari voted for by the northerners, hated by the southerners, and the Nigerian capital in Anambra). Imagine a protest in Ukraine where an American senator, Late John McCain, American ambassador to Ukraine, McFaul and assistant secretary of state, Victoria Nuland, were at the centre of the protest in Maidan, Kyiv, giving them cookies and bread urging them to overthrow their democratically elected president just because they didn't accept their trade deal. That led to the downfall of the Ukrainian President in the early months of 2014. The eastern part of Ukraine which voted mostly for the president rejected the overthrow and said they won't be part of that Ukraine, and declared independence. It led to a situation where Crimea declared Independence from Ukraine and voted to be part of Russia, Russia accepted. Donetsk and Luhansk equally declared independence which led to a brief war with Ukraine, Russia helped them push back Ukrainian forces and the conflict was frozen, with daily skirmishes on the front lines since 2014. Putin recognized their Independence last week. Fastward..... [/b]Today[b] How Putin tried to avoid this war. In a 2007 speech made by Vladimir Putin in Munich, Germany, he warned the US that bringing Ukraine into NATO will create a war in Europe because there's no way Russia will ever allow American military Machinery to Russian doorsteps just like US refused in 1962. The Americans laughed at him. In 2016, he called the then president of France, Francois Hollande, to restructure the security architect of Europe because the US is trying to bring Ukraine into NATO and equally sign a bilateral military pact with Ukraine which will bring US military facilities to Russian borders. The French president acknowledged but did nothing. (This happened because the Obama wanted to use that bilateral military pact to punish Putin for humiliating him with his intervention in Syria to save Assad (president of Syria) whom the US wanted to overthrow. Last year, 2021, Putin wrote the same letter of security to US and EU that Ukraine should become a non military aligned nation just like Finland but they laughed at him, Ukraine said they can do whatever they want because they are a sovereign nation. Imagine the US response if Russia is to install military weapons in Canada and Mexico. Towards the end of last year, Joe Biden (who wants to show that he is not Trump, whom they accused of being Putin's puppet) started supplying weapons to Ukraine, installing military equipment in the name of defending Ukraine... ... that was Putin's red line and they have crossed it. [/b]A Criminal Comedy of Suicidal Errors[b] [/b]WESTERN STRATEGIC THINKERS WHO HAD WARNED OF UKRAINIAN CONFLICT (a compilation by @RnaudBertrand)[b] 1. [/b]George Kennan,[b] America's foreign policy strategist, the architect of the U.S. cold war strategy. As early as 1998 he warned that NATO expansion was a "tragic mistake" that ought to ultimately provoke a "bad reaction from Russia". 2. [/b]Kissinger, in 2014.[b] He warned that "to Russia, Ukraine can never be just a foreign country" and that the West therefore needs a policy that is aimed at "reconciliation". He was also adamant that "Ukraine should not join NATO" 3. [/b]John Mearsheimer -[b] arguably the leading geopolitical scholar in the US today - in 2015: "The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path and the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked [...] What we're doing is in fact encouraging that outcome." 4. [/b]Jack F. Matlock Jr.,[b] US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, warning in 1997 that NATO expansion was "the most profound strategic blunder, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat [...] since the Soviet Union collapsed" 5. [/b]Clinton's defense secretary William Perry[b] explained, in his memoir, that to him NATO enlargement is the cause of "the rupture in relations with Russia" and that in 1996 he was so opposed to it that "in the strength of my conviction, I considered resigning". 6. [/b]Stephen Cohen,[b] a famed scholar of Russian studies, warning in 2014 that "if we move NATO forces toward Russia's borders [...] it's obviously gonna militarize the situation [and] Russia will not back off, this is existential" 7. [/b]CIA director Bill Burns[b] in 2008: "Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for [Russia]" and "I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests". (He was then Ambassador to Moscow in 2008 when he wrote this memo). He is now director of the CIA. ‘08 memo ‘Nyet Means Nyet: Russia's NATO Enlargement Redlines’ 8. [/b]Russian-American journalist Vladimir Pozner[b], in 2018, stated that: NATO expansion in Ukraine is unacceptable to the Russian, that there has to be a compromise where "Ukraine, guaranteed, will not become a member of NATO." 9. [/b]Malcolm Fraser, 22nd prime minister of Australia,[b] warned in 2014 that "the move east [by NATO is] provocative, unwise and a very clear signal to Russia". He adds that this leads to a "difficult and extraordinarily dangerous problem". 10. [/b]Paul Keating,[b] former Australian PM, in 1997: expanding NATO is "an error which may rank in the end with the strategic miscalculations which prevented Germany from taking its full place in the international system [in early 20th]" 11. [/b]Former US defense secretary Bob Gates[b] in his 2015 memoirs: "Moving so quickly [to expand NATO] was a mistake. [...] Trying to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO was truly overreaching [and] an especially monumental provocation" 12. [/b]Pat Buchanan[b], in his 1999 book A Republic, Not an Empire: "By moving NATO onto Russia's front porch, we have scheduled a twenty-first-century confrontation." 13. [/b]In 1997, a group of individuals including Robert McNamara, Bill Bradley & Gary Hart[b] wrote a letter to Bill Clinton warning the "US led effort to expand NATO is a policy error of historic proportions" and would "foster instability" in Europe. Today it's fringe, traitorous position. 14. [/b]Pat Buchanan,[b] in his 1999 book A Republic, Not an Empire: "By moving NATO onto Russia's front porch, we have scheduled a twenty-first-century confrontation." 15. [/b]Dmitriy Trenin[b] expressed concern that Ukraine was, in the LT, the most potentially destabilizing factor in US-Russian relations, given the level of emotion & neuralgia triggered by its quest for NATO membership. 16. [/b]Sir Roderic Lyne,[b] former British ambassador to Russia, warned a year ago that "[pushing] Ukraine into NATO [...] is stupid on every level." He adds "if you want to start a war with Russia, that's the best way of doing it." 17. [/b]Even last year, famous economist Jeffrey Sachs[b], writing a column in the FT warning that "NATO enlargement is utterly misguided and risky. True friends of Ukraine, and of global peace, should be calling for a US and NATO compromise with Russia." 18. [/b]Fiona Hill[b] :"We warned [George Bush] that Mr. Putin would view steps to bring Ukraine and Georgia closer to NATO as a provocative move that would likely provoke pre-emptive Russian military action. But ultimately, our warnings weren’t heeded." 19. [/b]Aleksandr Dugin[b], in 1997, had predicted everything that Putin has done, in his book "Foundation of Geopolitics." [/b]EVERYBODY knew that trying to rope Ukraine into NATO was crossing Russia's red line, but now people would like to hold up Russia as a villain. After having done everything to teeter on the redline. And this happened only AFTER Biden came to power.[b] [/b]One can peruse the compilation here: https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1498491107902062592..[b] |
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KUNZEH:You dey mind them |
JohnBullMySon:USSR was the first country to visit the moon. She is a pioneer in space tech. And stop abusing people while trying to make a point. |
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UGJ2:I mean how do you get a lot of people to register under you. Its not an easy task |
Nancygoje:How? |
Omihanifa:No be una dey talk say these people behind bars, 99% of them are innocent like Innocent Idibia? Keep deceiving yourself |
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NaughtyBrainiac:You just took it personal and emotional. As a leader, you cannot simply go to war because public opinion supports it. And you choose your war wisely, Ukraine president didnt do any of that. When he was elected, he was not elected to take then to war. The guy you quote is may be right. I hope he agrees with Putin and a cease fire is reached. Forget all the media lies, Ukrainian people are not happy with the president, if they are, for how long will that last? Talking about patriotism and war, the battle ground is Ukraine so they have no choice than to fight either to defend themselves or their country. why were the men running away before the president ordered a forceful enlistment. Forget all the stories on the pages of the news paper, Ukraine shouldn't have gone to war with Russia. It was a bad decision. |
helinues:Russia is yet to deploy any weapon of mass destruction. She is still smiling with Ukraine, by the time Russia actually decide to fight Ukraine, you will cry and mourn for Ukraine and curse that comedian and clown they call their president. |
tamdun:God bless you. President of Ukraine made a wrong turn. Should have just joined the EU and never propose to join NATO. |
Akwamkpuruamu:Lol what do you even take Russia for? It will never be better for those who canceled History in our schools. |
Frankiss44:Thanks for pointing this out. US has been doing this same thing and getting away with it. This is pure double standard. What US did in Iraq, Libya, Iran is far worse. But its US we will keep quiet but because its Russia now, everyone us shouting ha! Ha! Ha! |
FERNANDEZISBACK:USSR/Russia has always been under economic and political sanctions. It will have no new effect. |
Zonefree:Even those going for Olympics don't spread as much na real spreading I dey see for here |
seanwilliam:USA,France and UK shouldn't be concerned as well, if they are not afraid as well. |
CTee1:He does not need China for whatever |
GRACEGLORY:He is not afraid of them. Why can't the west stay in their corridors? Why must they be in everyone's backyard and not allow anyone be in theirs? |
Nonpartisan1:The running cost involving imported aviation fuel, diesel to run offices, business taxes that does not consider the harsh business environment etc |
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Lawsimon:Just follow what the op posted |
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fabiosmart:XRS |
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na real spreading I dey see for here