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LordReed:
Indeed but by all calculations the Western alliance got stronger while Russia got knocked down several pegs and has no strong alliance aside from Belarus and Chechnya who are basically vassal states to Putin. Even China is look into the Russia situation like a vulture looking at a diseased cow not as an ally.

I honestly do not want or pray that this situation escalates, cos it will be a doomsday thing. But only that escalation will tell us who is supporting who and who is ready to call her army in support of who. China had been a long term friend of the Soviets or Russia, as its stand, nothing or not much has changed about that. In fact, China stated recently that relations between Moscow and Beijing is rock solid.

So, US and NATO are free to do whatever with Russia. They should go ahead and bomb her, its evident Moscow wouldn't stop the pursuit of her interest. All the West can send their troop and missiles to Russia, assasinate Putin or bomb Moscow. Atleast they have the capacity to do so and does not need anyone's permission for that to be done. "Level this overrated, economically decimated, militarily weakened Russia and kill the crazy dictator Putin with their superior western firepower, sanctions, connections etc" As Russia is an Isolated, and hated entity of a state around the world, no country will aid or support her, it will Russia against the world, in fact her citizens hates her and even carry arms and fight against her in support of NATO and US.

[/b]Unless, Ukraine agrees to terms which are withdraw NATO membership intention, Cede Crimea to Russia, approve independence of Donbass and surrender To Russia. The crisis will not abate, no matter what US and the West do. It will be deadlocked. War or no war, intervention or not, sanctions or not.[b]

LordReed:
It will for the West because they are standing together. Look at it all the non aligned countries close to Russia are now strongly considering joining NATO. Also the Euro will come out stronger.

These are calculations. You can only count on what's done already. Relations are volatile at the moment. You don't know which alliance will stand the test of time or change with period. A new world order or a bipolar international system might just be upon us at the moment

LordReed:
It will but it won't be a net positive for Russia.

Neither will it for the West too. They will all go home counting their gains and losses.

Dedynast:
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LordReed:
There was need. China has been making overtures to them to engage in a new regime of international monetary settlements. You think Europe won't have sat up and took notice. I think negotiations would have yielded a no-NATO-for-Ukraine agreement very quickly. He squandered his chance and now they will spitefully call his bluff.

Well, all the events are live. Let's watch as it unfolds. But this current situation will challenge and shake the world and probably change some things we use to know

gambojimeta:
He or she could get a Russian alternative. Same way Europe is looking for an alternative to Russian Gas

They could as well stop sending their devices beyond their national borders and use it by themselves. The world is already going East, west is outdated.

Gertyman:
Of course Yes, I understand that they need an alliance, especially with China, but China still depends on exports, and the main China customer for export is the West, that's why the situation is not easy as said. You have to weigh your pros and cons. How many advantages will China gain from Russia than Gas? and If the West also decides to decouple from China (though very dangerous for the West), it will hurt everyone. The market and commercial activities between China and the West is like Marriage, it will be messy during a divorce. China still has more than 500 million populations she is still struggling to get out of poverty. So, it's not a good idea for China now to divorce the West because they want to save Russia. That's why they are playing the game carefully. They also don't like the West, but still, power belongs to the West.

According to the latest data from the U.S. Census Bureau — namely, the 2019 American Community Survey, 5-Year Estimates — the U.S. poverty rate nationally is 13.4%. This means that 13.4% of the national population lives below the poverty line.

Source:
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/stories/poverty-awareness-month.html#:~:text=The%20official%20poverty%20rate%20in,and%20Table%20B%2D4).


And According to World Bank, only 0.6 % of Chinese are in poverty as at 2019.

Source:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.NAHC?locations=CN

LordReed:
Which is why he should have leveraged that to push demand for the Ruble not now that Europe is galvanising itself to wean off Russian energy.

There was no need for that until now.

LordReed:
This is what he should have done instead of launching an Invasion with no positive outcome. Now his leverage has faded away, Europe will be even more eager to cut the energy umbilical cord since they already view the energy purchases as funding his war on Ukraine. This is the problem of having yes men surround you all the time, no person to challenge you to critical reasoning and analysis.

You think they are doing Russia a favor by buying her gas? No. Russian gas is the most reliable for Europe and most directly linked to mainland Europe. Europeans are smart people, they know this already.

Enugurangers:
He can't. If he indeed lives in UK (A western country) as he claimed, why is he still living there. UK wouldn't miss him if he decides to relocate to Russia.

Lots of them on here are hypocrites. He is probably using a Microsoft Windows at work and typing from a Google Android phone too.

So, if he is using those gadgets, they gave him for free right? He didnt pay for them. And as a result, he should be calling red white cos he is using Microsoft. What going on here sef?

mployer:
He is not the sole supplier of gas.

Russia is the world's leading exporter of gas, exporting 197.2 billion cubic meters of pipeline gas in 2020, and 40.4 billion cubic meters of liquefied natural gas (LNG). As at 29th Jul 2021.

She has three gas pipelines directly connected to Europe supplying gas to them.

Nord Stream as its called, is a set of offshore natural gas pipelines in Europe, running under the Baltic Sea from Russia to Germany.
Russia sends gas to Europe through several main pipelines - such as Nord Stream 1, Yamal-Europe and Brotherhood. The gas is collected in regional storage hubs, and then distributed it across the continent.

Russia also supplies a significant volume of fossil fuels to other European countries. In 2021 it was the largest exporter of oil and natural gas to the European Union, and 40% of gas consumed in the EU came from Russia. In 2017, energy products accounted for around 60% of the EU's total imports from Russia.

There you have it bro. Russia is not ya mate!

ayindejimmy:
The West is just being considerate of the gravity of what's at stake. It's not that they're afraid of Putin.
They just don't want to fight a war they can avoid.
Cos Putin is like a mad man wearing a sucide vest. He doesn't care about consequences

Try check what Mutual Assured Destruction is in diplomacy. You will understand why. They are afraid of Russia just as Russia is afraid of them too. It goes both ways

Drenimarcus:
Me too. The threats from Putin was not a bluff. Today, Biden was addressing the EU and he kept mentioning that Hypersonic missile . So, yeah there is something that Russia have in their arsenal.

Many things, thats a fact.

Whatever destruction America can pull, any of these Countries can equally do so or do better. They are France,Britain,China and Russia. They are super powers for a reason bro. Don't forget this.

RapistOnBail:
Lol. You are a comedian

There is no difference between him and the comedian president who used mouth to send his country to war and then started begging for help. They are both clowns

DoggoneDogg:
[s][/s]

You belong in the kitchen. Hurry!

He is trying to cover his shame. Shameless america boot lickers. Everything america is 100% good.

Rubyjade:
That is the normal mentality of the average Nigerian man

this mentality is however caused by poverty..


They are unrepentant cheaters..

White ladies and ladies from rich homes, however want guys or agree to date guys that makes them feel like the Queen they are..

They want you to be romantic, say those sweet words, they want to see you tell them, you will die for them, they want guys that can sacrifice for them..

But the average Nigeria man think if I just show them (ladies) the money, she's mine.

Well, that your a.ss is definitely something some men will want to die for >

adaenwa:
Thank you for the info. I'm grateful.

Still looking for an HP opportunity though.

Untainted007:
Thanks to you all for all the enlightenment about my choice. I av eventually acquired the Sienna XLE 2006 model. The car is neat in and out.
And for those trusting God for a gift like this or more than this, God Almighty will provide for you too.

Amen

adaenwa:
Hi, Please how did it go with them? Did you get the car?

I paid 5K application fee. Picked a car. They car never got here, I never got informed of its arrival. I just left them

Bestiee01:
Sincerely this Russia get might o.one country's war is affecting hundreds of other countries including Nigeria.

Hadley Chase available

Leave the Russia is overrated gangs

abokikhalifa:
I can't seen any brown roof. Pks show me a village in osun or oyo state. I want to check something.

Look again, brown roofs are there.

lomprico:
What is the punishment,?

Query

joyandfaith:
I still prefer economic sanctions than military invasion. Hitler and stalin made similar mistake. West will try all forms of non-military confrontation before using military tactics.

And US never made that "mistake"?

almarthins:
Look here! Why didnt they set up uncle Vanya all this time?
Can uncle uncle Vanya scale the tides of time?
Russia as a country has a history failed nationalized industries.

There military prowess in Ukraine is laughable. It speak alot about them. No country can remain an island and prosper with out some form of foreign investment of some sort

FDI will come from China, India and other South East Asian partners. Satisfied? Our world can not always revolve around the greedy and selfish US and West.

bn365:
DR Congo is one of the richest countries per non, due to the natural resources they've been endowed with.
You won't consider them rich.
Countries that produce the goods consumed in the West are poor and wretched for a reason. The West will make sure of it.
Mugabe tried to come up with a policy that skirts around the control of the West. They punished the country with sanctions.
Lauren Gbagbo tried renegotiating a term that France has with all its former colonies. France takes 60% of all the revenue. Gbagbo was forcefully removed.
A sanction is a tool of control

True

bn365:
While going After Russia, The West has sent a wrong signal in seizing Russia's foreign reserve.
What's the point if it can be seized?
People were encouraged to steal and loot from their country because they could be secured in a foreign bank.
If that seizes to be the case, there's little to no incentive to move funds overseas, you find a way to keep your loot local

Gbam! You will now see countries going back to trust their Central Banks now

almarthins:
Initial gra gra. We did that too in Nigeria but what was the outcome?

Stop comparing Nigeria with Russia pls. A country that has over 600 Billion USD in foreign reserve can never be compared with a country that has never saved 100 Billion USD as foreign reserve before. Infact our foreign reserve as at Feb 2022 in 38 Billion USD.

So, Nigeria is not in the League of Russia abeg.

They had implemented a sanction on Russia and as a result stopped the export of Wheat to Russia years back, now she is the world largest exporter of wheat now. Russia will only get better with this as Russian business investors will swoop in to take that investment opportunity.

Ekoblendedsince:
For those hailing Russia for invading Ukraine,how will you feel if the same is done to you?

How would you feel if Niger Republic decided to enter agreement with Alqaeda in Islamic Maghreb, Boko Haram,Taliban, ISIL, ISIS, killer Herdsmen, Bandits [/b]everything that threatens Nigeria's existence[b] to come and set up militant base and operations along Niger-Nigeria Border. How would you feel? What would you do when all peaceful and diplomatic efforts to get Niger Republic to stop this move that threatens your internal security and peace has failed because Saudi Arabia,Egypt, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan are giving Niger Republic support that Nigeria cannot do anything. What would you do ?

CoronaVirusPro:
Their sentiments becloud reality.

Just because of Russia-Iran-Pakistan pact, that’s why they supporting a Russia

Believing Russia will deliver Palestine. That’s all what their sentiments is about.

So, this is the reason many are against Russia.

The alliance you are talking about is not religious and was created to clean the mess left behind by NATO and the US in Afghanistan and ensure that neighboring countries to Afghanistan help her back to her feet and remove the Taliban from control as they quickly took over power after the US ran away with her tails in between her legs after 2 decades of war.

Read this:

China, Russia, Iran and Pakistan Move to Create United Front on Afghanistan
BY TOM O'CONNOR ON 10/27/21 AT 4:03 PM EDT

WORLD AFGHANISTAN CHINA RUSSIA IRAN
China, Russia, Iran, Pakistan and others in the region surrounding Afghanistan have set out to establish unity in confronting the crises enveloping the nation since the U.S. military withdrawal.


In their second such meeting, the senior diplomats from Afghanistan's six neighboring countries and Russia gathered virtually and in person for a conference in the Iranian capital of Tehran on Wednesday in an effort to further align their views.

They come together at a time when Afghanistan is facing imminent humanitarian, economic and security crises. Representatives were on hand from China, Iran, Pakistan, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.


Among the most concerning developments for these countries has been the rise of militant groups such as the Islamic State (ISIS) that have issued threats beyond Afghanistan's borders.

"We should positively view the timely development of bilateral and multilateral dialogues and cooperation with Afghanistan on fighting terrorism," Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said in comments carried by official Iranian media outlets and Russia's state-run Tass Russian News Agency.

He called upon those present to act through two platforms, the United Nations and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, a coalition of countries in which all present, save for neutral Turkmenistan, are members.


"It is necessary to create a unified front against terrorism by means of such multilateral platforms as the U.N. and the SCO," Wang said.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov echoed this call in his remarks, and additionally offered the assistance of the Collective Treaty Security Organization, a Moscow-led alliance that also included Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.

He said his nation was preparing to send assistance to Afghanistan, and also issued an appeal to prevent the U.S. and its allies from redeploying forces elsewhere in the region after having withdrawn from a two-decade conflict in Afghanistan.


"We once again call on the countries neighboring Afghanistan to prevent the U.S. and NATO from establishing a military presence in their territory, given their plans to move there after pulling out of Afghanistan," Lavrov said.


Beijing and Moscow have sought to ensure that regional countries were the ones to take the lead on the developing situation in Afghanistan, where the Taliban quickly seized power from a U.S.-backed government after the pullout. No country in the world has yet recognized the newly established Islamic Emirate. But China, Russian, Iran, Pakistan and others have already begun to engage with the nascent administration in hopes of avoiding further instability.


As turmoil arises in the shape of ISIS attacks, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian highlighted his country's experience both in battling jihadis in Iraq and Syria and in suffering from U.S. military action in confronting the new challenge in Afghanistan.

"As a pivotal country in the battle against ISIS and terrorism, and as a nation that has suffered the loss of its great General, Martyr Qassem Soleimani, as well as other martyrs in this path, the Islamic Republic of Iran together with other neighbors emphasizes counterterrorism," Amir-Abdollahian said.

Tehran's embrace of a multilateral approach to Afghanistan was further elucidated in an opinion piece penned by Iranian permanent representative to the United Nations Majid Takht-Ravanchi and published Tuesday by Iran's semi-official Press TV outlet. Iranian officials have emphasized the need to safeguard the rights of ethnic minorities, some of whom have accused the Taliban of oppression while representing both a target and potential recruiting pool for ISIS.

Afghanistan, neighbors, Russia, meet, Tehran, Iran Russian ambassador to Iran Levan Dzhagaryan, Uzbek Foreign Minister Abdulaziz Kamilov, Tajik Foreign Minister Sirojiddin Muhriddin, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi, Turkmen Foreign Minister Rashid Meredov and China's special envoy for Afghanistan Yue Xiaoyong pose for a picture at the second Meeting of Foreign Ministers of Afghanistan's Neighboring Countries in Tehran, Iran on October 27.


Source:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/china-russia-iran-pakistan-united-front-afghanistan-1643219%3famp=1


So, the alliance is not Islamic in any form. Its not even an alliance its a meeting to help Afghanistan remove Taliban and establish good governance. Please leave religion out of this.

CoronaVirusPro:
But Russia and Ukraine are both orthodox? Why are they then fighting?

He won't reply you again

almarthins:
Keep dreaming it won't happen. Russia just woke up other European countries to sit up for possible war, should Russia go beyond Ukraine. USSR can never be revived

Even though the earlier agreement with RUSSIA has been breached, Russia is okay with the current expansion level of NATO. Its still manageable. Any attempt to try and draft in the fence nations between NATO countries and Russia, another war will happen.

Why is it difficult to respect agreements that a country has entered? Okay if you want to expand, admit Russia into NATO, you said no, cos you will no longer have an imaginary enemy for NATO to look out for.

NATO should be disbanded. Its a anti peace organization as it foster Us vs them kind of beef in the international system

Totilopussylick:


Putin please call your soldiers to order

See how they scatter humans body parts everywhere.

Chie....i detest war

Hope the people of south east calling for war are seeing this

That airstrike must have been from another great country like the US, UK, Britain or France. Russia is a very highly overrated super power, she is not capable of this kind of military assault. Only US can do this.

We will investigate. It may be US trying to bomb Russian soldiers location, not knowing the soldiers were for Ukraine

When Russia is done with Ukraine, she will hate NATO and US forever. And probably an aggrieved citizen will assassinate that comedian they elected as president.

NATO and US just used Ukraine, and she will soon be dumped and forgotten.