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smartsmith0907:
All these are trash,gibberish
So because all the English players dont talk about their ordeals means they made it on bed of roses.
It obvious you know absolutely about UK football so just sit and learn about it before you make comparism between the duo
I once heard about aina's story how his father sold his car to make sure he gets to training
All these UK footballer you mentioned how many of them have you had any interviews with to come up with those trash up there. Stop being ignorant

Mental disease is real, little man !

zuchyblink:
Here

Is this the line up ?

benji93:
Then what's the point of all these discussions? What's the point of this thread all others of its kind? Witohut making reasonable comparisons, what the hell is football all about? You must enjoy mediocrity a lot. Why the hell do we need a coach self? Not to talk of a foreign coach? Why the hell do we need boots? Why the hell do we need socks? We could play with our legs? Why the hell do we need a ball? We could kick oranges. Maybe our folks can actually take these things seriously and learn. We may never be as deeply technical as they are, but it's definitely not too late to learn. O sorry i forgot, most of our folks are still at least 2/3 years older. Maybe that's why they cannot develop the techniques. . If one is truly an 18-20 year old talented player, you can still develop the techniques if you focus, work hard and learn. At least you get to hone your talent with techniques that particularly most important. We know you are underprivileged. Most of us have been all our lives. How about we shut up and get to work?

The point is that those who are comparing these players from different backgrounds are doing it based on the clubs these players play for. Why would I compare Arnold , the Liverpool right back to Awaziem who is been tossed around without any regard for his development and confidence. Every year my Nigga has to play with a new set of players he knows little about yet he remained strong. You think Ejuke will not trash Grealish if he was playing top flight English league. You think if Nwakali was English he will go through the same hell that almost ruined his career just because he is a Nigeria. The same suffering he went through was what put him where he is today and made his fellow Nigerians called him a failure!

Now , think about this , if I say Nwakali is more talented than any English born AM you will shut me down with , " let him prove himself, firstly" without having in mind that this player had never enjoyed the same opportunities that made you rate these English players ahead of him. That's my point!

There is an underlying issue people do not consider when they compare English players to Nigerian players. This is the issue; the English players have massive opportunities and privilege to feature in the EPL notwithstanding how poor they are and even the average ones get to play for top English clubs and this helps with player growth , development and confidence. The Nigerian players you are comparing them with dont have these benefits , especially those born in Africa.

Take Awaziem, Nwakali , Ejuke , and Kalu for instance. These player , if English will enjoy the opportunity of playing to football in England and after some season when their potentials have been developed you would call them world class.

If we have a decent league in Nigeria where the average earning is at least one million Naira per month and the clubs are structured to professional standards I can bet you that we will beat England mercilessly every time we meet them. Most of our talented players never received the early teachings they need...Taye Taiwo and Ahmed Musa are perfect examples...raw undeveloped talents.

When Enyimba of Aba reigned supreme in Africa I can point out five players from that set that could cost at least 5 million dollars if was a Brazilian club that won the Champions League back to back....Muri Ogunbiyi, Damian Ude, Onyekachi Okonkwo , late Romanus Orjinta and the bully and skillful Ekene Ezenwa. These players if Brazilians would have raked in about 50 million dollars for the club. Especially, the midfield terroristic duo of Muri and Onyekachi.

Final point, don't compare two players until they have both received the same opportunities.

Bkayyy:
Kee ka isi kwere ka ndị ofe mmanụ woria gị?
Nna a guy man anarọkwa agayi a gayoyo ma ya fọdụzia onye ofe mmanụ igayi nwa Igbo.
Obiano abụrọ onye igala, Obiano bụ nwa Aguleri.
Abia na nke ụzọ, ụzọ Anambra dị mma. Sọ ndị nke na adirọ mma bụ ụzọ gọọmenti etiti.
Biko onwerọ Nwa afọ Anambra ya ekwunwu ihe a ikwu. Kedu ebe ụzọ state na adirọ mma dị?

He is not from Anambra. His goal here is to attack Anambra using fake moniker.....the boy na Chino's slave!

okpalaAnambra:
Abụ m nwa afọ omambala.. Ezi okwu na afụ ụfụ na ntị.. Obiano abụghị onye Igbo.. Onye igala ka Obiano bụ, eziokwu Kam na àgwà gị ife a.. Anambra enweghị ụzọ, ebe n'ile bụ nanị olulu na epịtị

Gbafuo , ofeke !

Danielnino00:
Kante is a CM, so his ball carrying skills are better..


Give me a list of modern day DMs!! Come on!!

Fabinhi is a good example of modern DM

AndSunGorilla:
Can he play goalie and striker too?

Jokes are allowed.

Danielnino00:
Who is Kaita??

Kante, sorry.

andrewbaba44:
If you talk nonsense I go tell you say you talk nonsense

Jail term on Nairaland ? I guess your life revolves around Nairaland that you take such serious

Smh

Correct Nigga

TheSuperNerd:
Glad you are getting it. But no... Kingsley Michael was not even the "pure playmaker". He was just the midfield runner. Nwakali was the actual playmaker. He dictated play from deep most times at the U-17 WC and the FIFA study group specially mentioned the rarity of seeing a coach use a "Number 10" at that level (cadet level) to dictate/playmake from deep positions in midfield. They were astounded at the tactics and commended it.

So my point is this. Yes, Nwakali can function as a #10 but he is a born and natural DLP. So CM suits him much much more.

And finally... It is still very early to be talking about Nwakali in the Eagles now. I remember I pointed out to Chris in a discussion that I won't have Nwakali being invited now. I need to see more of him in La Liga. Let him show more of himself in La Liga. After that, then at any point in 2021, his invite will be inevitable. So take it step by step and ACCEPT THAT IWOBI IS OUR TEAM'S First choice AM.

Inugo?

There is no need to twist and turn these discussions because its actually very simple. The common denominator here is "attacking midfielder" and all these other prefixes are subjective. You can use your own words to define these positions and they wont be wrong. I used pure because he functioned further up than Nwakali, whether you chose to call him a " midfield runner" is your choice, alone. That's NOT the final definition, inugo.

And , finally, I didn't say invite him now, you are way smarter than that. But , additionally, you DONT decide when I call for any players invitation. Slow your roll.

Danielnino00:
I will ask you this question again,for like the 3rd time...
What are the qualities Ndidi lack as a defensive midfielder?
And give us examples of modern day defensive midfiders that posses such qualities Ndidi lack...

I dont have to tick all the conventional definition of a DM. I want a DM that can move with the ball. For instance, Kaita moves with the ball , as in making moves with with ball still in your possession. And, please , dont post YouTube videos of the best of Ndidi because I have seen them.

andrewbaba44:
You are talking in the nonsense and in the rubbish

If nwakali starts doing well for huesca he will be invited so calm down and stop talking nonsense by saying it’s only when nwakali quits soccer

You are losing it again. You were doing well for a while since your jail time and things were civil for a minute. But I guess that agwosia onye ala oma agha ntamu...

You , Shemba phd and charlesemeka almost trashed this place and now you are back with your uncontrollable emotions. You wan chop ban for 10 days by then the friendly would have been playing and you will not make a comment. Mulu akor!

TheSuperNerd:
Kelechi Nwakali actually played majorly as a Deeplying Playmaker at Chile 2015. He was CAM at some point, CM at some point and then absolutely DLP at most other points. Nwakali had a free role in that midfield three and was hard to pin down by opponents.

This is part of what made the FIFA study group at that U-17 WC marvel at the tactics used by Amunike in moving his "#10" a lot deeper into midfield with Kingsley Michael roaming as the mobile box-to-box/Midfield runner operating between the opponents' defensive lines in Central areas and Enogela doing the dirty work at the Midfield's base too.

This is in order, Nerd. I understand the indept analysis but we are saying similar things. The point being that he can play anywhere from above the CM base to SS. Thats why I call him the midfield boss. Furthermore, though , Kingsley Michael was sort of the "pure" playmaker , Nwakali was still more effective and dangerous around the box.

Philosopher1979:
Nwakali needs regular football for a season and then we can start rating him. Lets wait till January and see what he will do. He is good but needs to prove it in la liga

And we agree with this and if another AM shows up before that we will go with him...I just need a decent AM , so , badly.

JayromWrites:
On simon, you ain't tha coach... Rohr likes him, get use to seeing him


I will prefer Ebuehi to Aina aswell, let's wait n c

Of course, but I am a Nigerian and SE lover so the team is mightily important to me. I don't get surprised by what Rohr does any more but any tactical sound coach will not play Simon with Ejuke in the team...its practically ddumb

JayromWrites:
Is Nwakali a AM?


Abi there is another Nwakali i don't know of

Yes , he started off as an AM at Chile 2015 and Onega was his DM. Nwakali can also play CM , SS , RW and even DM.

JayromWrites:
Is it?


One can be consistently shit!!!

Nah bro, it ain't

Plus: you said he had A GOOD SEASON.

Playing consistently keeps you in for. Maybe great season was the wrong phrase but he was playing and had good showing with Awaziem. Not same with sitting of the bench or getting injured after few matches.

andrewbaba44:
Nwakali won’t displace iwobi while playing for huesca sorry bro

The only way this will be possible is if Nwakali quits soccer!! But the minute he gets substituted for Iwobi you will instantly see the ocean in class. Iwobi is a makeshift AM , remember that. You guys forget so soon that Iwobi never flourished there. Yes , he had scored some goals but when it comes to holding the AM and dictating play he doesnt have the stamina , the lungs not the long range vision. You know these things naa, baba

mostob:
And Partey lacks some qualities Ndidi possesses. For someone that was converted from CB to DM, Ndidi might not show his attacking prowess now but that does not mean he is lacking in that department.

If he had it , it will show ,naturally. Ndidi cant push a ball not because he was instructed against it but he dont have that skill set. You cant learn some of these things. Etebor is a good example ;the coaches want to convert a left forward into a CM/DM. Like playing Nacho as a top 9. It won't work.

So , can fit into an old-fashioned DM but because he was a defender but he will fail in the duties of a CM

andrewbaba44:
Then who you want ?

Nwaka....in the middle but not yet....

I dream of a front line of Osimhen , Chukwueze, Ejuke with Nwakali behind them...e go too sweet.

JayromWrites:
Possible line up for tomorrow


GK-Okoye(we know Rohr sha, e no go like bench am)

Defence

Ola Ekong(Ajayi) Balogun(akpoguma) Zaidu

Midfield

Onyeka
Agu Iwobi

Attack

Chukwueze Dessers Kalu(simon)


I don't think Rohr will start Paul upfront with wingers like chukwueze and Kalu, where the crossing wan comot from

Collins shouldn't start aswell, haven't played much this season
Omerou as well... If balogun is fit, it should be the oyinbo wall or bring in another oyinbo to replace... There is also a Semi Ajayi sef


Ola aina at Right back, Zaidu at left back
Make fine boy Tyrone enter second half

The midfield matter tayah me sha...

Aina can't start ahead of Ebuehi who has been playing since his return from injury.
Simon has absolutely nothing to offer SE other than tracking back to do defensive job. His end product is nothing to cheer about.

JayromWrites:
Good season?

How sir??

His team was relegated.. I don't think he was the best player in his team and he is certainly not a ball player aswell

He played consistently that's akin to being in form, init.

mostob:
Ok...On Ndidi,
Some folks here should know that what the coach/team demand will affect how a player plays. For instance, if Barca, a team known with passes and Passings, should sign Ndidi today, we all will discover another aspect of Ndidi's game we might never see at leceister.
It is just a matter of what your team demand from you.

Cc.mostob

I understand the style and tactics angle but you can't give what you don't have. Ndidi lacks some quality partey possesses.

andrewbaba44:
What’s the meaning of that e pain me If I may ask ?

Anyway Your lineup is okay apart from omeruo

I no wan Iwobi but I always like SE to play with an AM. Ekong is not a ball player, Balogun is not in form but Omeruo had a good season

mkrest:
meaning Ekong and balogun no dey camp?

No, sir. It means my preferred line up but of course either of those could still start.

Well , the thread has been derailed. Good bye

Etinosa1234:
Lol... Starvation is part of tactics,.. in war, u use all the alternative u have so spare me that crap of starving...

If u don't know, France also helped Biafra... Stopped playing victim of the whole world left u...

Go and check the belligerents of the war and stop saying the whole world against us....

America doesnt stop food coming to a country they wage war against....you face the army and defeat them! Fight the army not babbies and mothers , you ppssycho !!

And , for future reference, royalty is something you adore not fear.
The British adore and respect the queen but the Bini are scared of their Oba....a common human ! I lived at Ohoro road for 5yrs and my family owned business at Omo street dealing in cigarettes. I know the Oba square very well. The Bini are cool but scared of their Oba and to me that's not healthy

Etinosa1234:
So the only battle that Biafra won outside the shores of Igbo was when they strolled into Benin with little resistance...

No wonder they cherish it cos they couldn't face heavy opposition

They fought the British and Nigeria for 30 months! Think about that for a minute....you thought it was the Nigerian soldiers we were fighting. Fire for fire we killed more Nigerian soldiers but of course the starvation dealt the biggest blow.

Etinosa1234:
I knew you will say something like this... The expert in shifting goalposts...

Now Lemme educate u..

Firstly... Benin on its own doesn't have a standing army... So can u explain how do u expect it to fend off invaders

Secondly As at when ur forefathers strolled in months before their untimely death, the Midwest soldiers were undecided on who to join
The Midwest igbo joined Biafra ... So when Biafra strolled in , there was little or no resistance from any one in Benin...

I understand ur plight tho,... That was the only vIctOry outside the shores of Igbo land that's why u cherish it so much...

So remind me, what happened on August 20-21 1967

Even if you decided to fight the Biafran soldiers you would be decimated. You think this is knives and koboko? Of course , Anioma were gonna join their kins. This is the region with Dennis Osadebe, Achuzia, Nzeogwu , Ben Gbulie etc. You thought they were gonna join Bini ? Smh


When we tell you Bini aggressors to tone it down you thought we were bring deluded. You are too little with nothing to fight with. Even Afemai and the Esans who look like the Igbo won't join you.

Etrusen:
I remember that those virgin were slaves from ibo extract

Well, they could be from anywhere but that's not the point. The point is that you are your Oba should be careful...lol. This is not when you invaded your neighbors villages to kidnap people to sell.....be careful, you don't have any resources but powerless fetish objects your Oba had used to enslave your mind.