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Jenwitemi:
You mean to say, he should come to the church to be exploited, no? There is no Jesus to come to since almost 2 millenia. The only thing remaining to come to is the church that is using the Jesus logo to exploit people of their livelihood and live off of them. The christian religion has never had anything to do with Jesus or heaven or God or believers' spiritual wellbeing. All that is myth. Enough of these lies. It is old, already.

Well said Jenwitemi, I agree 100%. Africans are still sleeping from the 'Jesus' Anesthesia the white man invented for them. And they wonder why they are down and the white man ruling over them

[/quote][quote author=alexleo link=topic=561348.msg7265509#msg7265509 date=1291387518]Heaven is as real as the air that you breath. If you miss it you are heading to eternal damnation just like if your breath is taking away from you, you become a dead man. Come to Jesus now and have eternal life. God help you friend.

MMMMH My religious people don come again oooo!!!! has anyone been there and came back to tell you? oooh, i forgot, it's in the BIBLE

Religion is when a person has a personal experience with his creator (which is personal to only him).
That person then writes down HIS experience and obliges and manipulates others to have HIS experience with the creator.

tell her you need to go see your pastor for deliverance. If she asks why
Just say there is a curse on your life, that every girlfirend you have had died mysteriously on your 1st year anniversary; and you dont want her to go the same route as you care about her.

Anyone who thinks God wrote the bible should go for a psychiatric review at Yaba Pscychiatric Hospital.
I mean, did God write it in heaven and then throw the book down from heaven to earth.
The Europeans compiled that book for their supremacy and to control your minds.
Nothings pains me more than when I see an African with an open bible on the train or bus, all coloured up and underlined, and they have been trained that the book contains power to change their situation.
No wonder we as Africans are still in the mess we are in. So many churches, in every corner on every street. Yet, poverty is rife, even though the contininet has all the resources to be the number 1 economic power in the world. While the europenas who gave you the bible are setting up their companies and tapping all your wealth, you are in churches singing : 'Praise da Lord, O sing O, sing O, praise da Lord'

philip0906:
I'm telling u what archeologists found and u r putting up links of hungary munchkins who are desperate . . .more on d way

so you did not even listen to the lectures presenting facts to you. you could not have listened to them in 6 mins
i think you are afraid!!!
I know u are thinking what will you do if what u have been trained to believe is a LIE
you are afraid of that Mr. Philip, because u have put your whole life into this God the white man created for you. You are scared to listen to facts and not fables of jesus. You are afraid because you would not know where to start of what to do if u realised that your so called Jesus never existed in history
keep wearing you religion tinted glasses.

anyway I will paste the links again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsZ7z2AveUw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byf6g2oZy_g

mazaje:
I am doing just that, all you are doing is going to Christian apologist websites and copying already debunked stories. . . . . .

Ron Wyatt who discovered the so called chariots has been shown to be a collosal fraud not by me but by other Christian bodies such as answers in genesis, Christian information ministries and the Tentmaker. . . .

Discredited names like Ron Wyatt and Oded Golan that have been shown to be frauds?. . . . .

@mazaje. Thanks for all this info. I was just about to post all these info this morning debunking all pastor Philip's so called evidence. But I see you've done a good job. These Christian apologetics just go up and down trying to find proof of things are just myths and fables.

The funniest one I came across was the 'well of Hell' hoax, the story about some miners who put a microphone 9 miles deep into the earth and heard sounds of people screaming in hell what a stupid story. Not only has the story been debuked, but the people who made the recording in a studio already confessed its a hoax

However that son of a devil, pulpit love-vendor called creflo dollar is still using the hoax as a weapon of witchcraft to scare his flock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-My_-9yjnU

philip0906:
"And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided." (Exodus 14:21)

The Hebrew Exodus from Egypt is in scope the most miraculous event ever to be recorded by man. It's historicity though has been challenged and reduced to mere mythology by many religious theologians and biblical archaeologists until recently. In 1978 Ron Wyatt, a biblical archaeologist without formal training, confounded the opponents of biblical historical accuracy by discovering the true "Exodus Red Sea Crossing" in the Gulf of Aqaba (Red Sea) at Nuweiba, Sinai Peninsula.

The authenticity of Wyatt's claim has been validated with the discovery of the remains of ancient Egyptian army chariots lying at the bottom of an underwater land bridge connecting Sinai to Saudi Arabia. Many coral encrusted chariot wheels, and a gilded four spoked chariot wheel were found. Fossilized human and horse bones were also recovered, but carbon dating was not possible.

The Hebrew name given to the Red Sea crossing site was Pi-hahiroth (Hebrew: פִּי הַחִירֹת). The Hebrew name "Pi-hahiroth" has been translated as "mouth of the gorges," descriptive of its location, where the mouths of two rivers (wadis) combine at the point of entry into the sea. The Nuweiba peninsula fits this description exactly. The historical significance of the Nuweiba site as the site of the Exodus crossing was also known in ancient times. This fact is attested to by the discovery of "commemorative inscriptions erected by King Solomon" on both the Sinai and Saudi Arabian sides of the crossing.

In 2000 Dr. Lennart Moller, a research scientist from Sweden, headed an expedition that retraced the footsteps of Wyatt. Soon after the expedition, it's Swedish backers produced an excellent documentary video and book supporting Wyatt's claims as well as adding extensively to the archaeological documentation. Archaeological research is ongoing, with a new documentary due in 2008.
http://www.messianic-literary.com/chariots.htm

so u are now copying and pasting. ok i will join you
watch this video and see where all the bible stories are copied from Africa. I will just paste the link for part 1, but watch all the parts. I read your pasted comments and went to the messianic literary website to read your so called chariots found in the red sea.
Nobody kept records like the ancient Egyptians, they put their stories in stone. till today, we cannot find any records of any people called hebrews living in egypt as slaves in the 100s of tombs and artefacts covering the from 4000 - 18000 years in Egypt

anyway I will paste some links to some lectures:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsZ7z2AveUw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byf6g2oZy_g

philip0906:
^^
Don't run 4 cover. . .u know u've lost it.u r now using desperate tactics 2 prove your point.I said,my life is in God's hands and I have no control over my life.Thats my belief.The day I die,I'll be turned 2 dust and ants would feed on my body.Dats how God made it 2 be.Dats how God did it after d fall of man.Now,it is left 4 u dat claims 2 be in control of your life,2 prove 2 God that he does not own u and u'll die when u want.U'VE AVOIDED THIS QUESTION SINCE.U R ONLY PLAYING WITH THE SMILEYS. . .Y CAN'T U PROVE GOD WRONG,DAT U'LL DIE WHEN U WANT?

Oh boy, u just amaze me more and more.
what is 'fall of man'?
stories from the bible. That is all it is stories
Adam and eve never existed. Your religious programmers told u it all started with adam and eve 6,000 years ago. However we have the sphinx and the pyramids of Giza that are more than 10,000 years old, daaaaaaah!
the adam and eve story is copied straight from the ancient babylonian myth of Inki and ninti which is about 4,000 years before adam was supposed to have been created.
Forget it, Adam never existed, its all a myth, fable, story. so dont talk to me about fall of man.

The religious programmers are smart.
in order to back up the salvation doctrine, they need to make u feel guilty and that u need a saviour. so they created your adam and eve and that they fell.
STOOOOOORIES!!!!

[quote author=Idi-Amin link=topic=505028.msg6662221#msg6662221 date=1283112963]your body will turn to dust. But the atheist's body will be fed on by ants.LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[/quote]This is classic, I have got to share this your new doctrine with others. WOOOW!!!!

philip0906:
My body will turn 2 dust 2. . .but while I admitted dat i wasn't in control of my life,u claimed 2 be in control of your own life.Y would u want your body 2 turn 2 dust?y?just tell me?Isn't it your own life?

your body will turn to dust. But the atheist's body will be fed on by ants.LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

philip0906:
poo talk. . .u simply can't solve dat mystery,u then resort 2 telling me "it is a beautiful experience".man,u r short of words.Ingrid d atheist,would sure not have wanted dat "beautiful" experience,cos he wasn't done discrediting the Bible and God,but alas,he died mysteriously and his body is now been fed on by ants. . .

my goodness!!! I have discussed with a lot of religious fanatics like yourself, but u have to be the most stupid out of them all.
So Ingrid d atheist dies mysteriously because he was discrediting the bible and your God.?!!! Let me guess, alas !!!your God killed him because the atheist was talking against God.
I am rolling on the ground with laughter!!!!! This has to be the dumbest thing I heard this year, wait I have to show this to my 10 year old son to read and have a laugh too.

so when christians like u die mysteriously? what happened?
and when atheist live till 80 - 90 years old, what happened

Your explanation is BASELESS!!!!
If all atheist die mysteriously, and then all religious fanatics waiting for Conan to return live long, happy lives and after you die, the ants see your body and say 'this dead guy believed in Jesus, so we can feed on this one'  
Isn't that your argument.
You are even dumber than I thought

philip0906:
poo talk. . .u simply can't solve dat mystery,u then resort 2 telling me "it is a beautiful experience".man,u r short of words.Ingrid d atheist,would sure not have wanted dat "beautiful" experience,cos he wasn't done discrediting the Bible and God,but alas,he died mysteriously and his body is now been fed on by ants. . .

and what will happen to YOUR body when u die?

philip0906:
Save urself man. . .your god is in your mind and u can't evade death?wouldn't u wish u could?if a cure 4 death were found,wouldn't u buy?your world supposedly in control by humans,is dying 4rm calamities,earthquakes and other ills,u can't take a stand and save it.

why would u want to buy a cure for death!!! who would be so stupid to buy that?
Look, death is the most wonderful thing that can happen to a human being, It's beautiful experience when the soul sheds that heavy burden called body and is free. Wooow!!! what a day that will be. My only dilemma is that I have forgotten when it will happen.I already planned all that with my creator before I came into this world thru my body.
Your problem is religion has taught you that death is tragedy and is a bad thing. But people who are spiritual know otherwise. People who have had near death experiences will tell u how free and how beautiful it is.
even your bible says: 'the day of death is better than the day of one's birth' so why do u want a cure for it.
Sorry to disappoint you, but there is no place like HELL
Did i hear you say 'The Bible says unbelievers will burn for eternity'

philip0906:
u r still beating around d bush man. . .Make me a convert,prove 2 me dat God does not exist.ok what if I say,God's works are wrought in my life?oya prove 2 me dat it is not God. . .I'm waiting
@Idi-amin
u loose. . .u can't save urself,despite telling me,its your life?

Oh u replied, so Jesus never land. Anyway, maybe by tomorrow I'm sure u can wait, if u don wait 2000 years already, 1 day na nothing.
You said I cant save myself. So who is going to save me? Conan the Barbarian? I don't think so.
The doctrine of salvation did not exist till 325AD. It was created at the Nicean Council in 325AD by roman catholic bishops. Just go to wilkipedia and read the nicean council and how the so called catholic church voted and created what u believe today as a method of mind-control.
You think u need to be saved? so they programmed you. You believe God already sees you as a sinner even when u were in your mother's womb. And u will go to hell unless u accept Conan as your Lord. People that lived 10,000 years ago before Conan the barbarian came to shed his blood, what happened to them? they went to hell?
Anyway, your mind is already locked.

mazaje:
You can't tell me something because you don't know anything. . . . . .Since when have you provided any proof to show that your God exist?

@mazaje
Philip's God exists, his picture is in my last post. His God na CONAN the Babarian. LOL

philip0906:
Now let me tell u something u don't know.it just came 2 my attention. . .U r making a folly of urself u know?"God" doesn't exist. . .which "God" now exists?abi which God r u referring 2?Let me tell u,anyhow u claim it,u'll still point 2  that "God". . .Read your posts well and catch my drift
u tried with your essay. . .u still haven't proved dat God does not exist.what u typed is your "imagination". . .prove 2 us,without making reference 2 our claims. . .U atheists aren't even intelligent,u sit and wait.u can't prove dat God is non-existent independently,u still lay hold on "First hand statements". . .no backbone

Man of God. I dey go sleep. I just say make I check whether Perseus, sorry I mean Jesus don come ooo. If I no get reply from you, I go take am so u don go your golden mansion. No forget the room I say make u save for me ooo.

mazaje:
God does not exist because men CREATED all the Gods, that is why it is men that keep telling each other when to believe, how to believe and what to believe about any of the God concept they have invented. . . . .All religious books and religious claims about any God were written by men No God has ever written anything, that is enough to show that the God concept is a man made thing, Can you point to the existence of any God that is independent of human influence?. . . . .Even the bible which you call the word of God was written by men, the books to be included and accepted were based on votes that were caste by men, so how is your God not a man made entity, since you can not point to its existence independent of man's influence?. . . . .

You're 100% right. God did not write 1 word of what is in that Bible. Men who claim they were inspired wrote it. I dont know if it was holy Ghost or gay sex that inspired them ooo. Most of the so called scholars that compiled the King James Bible in 1611 were gays, Shakespeare, Francis Bacon, even the King himself James Stewart I of England dey sleep with men. The votes u mentioned was in 325AD at the nicean council where these so called roman catholic bishops created "Jesus Christ' and the doctrines, fed it to the whole world. A lot of people rejected it back in those days because they knew it was lies. That was what started the crusades when people who did not accept Jesus were killed IN JESUS NAME. As generations went by, the resistance decreased and decreased till it was accepted as TRUTH. They brought it to Africa, and our people just swallow am, drink water.

philip0906:
blah blah blah. . .u neva answer question.We say dat our life is in d hands of a supreme being who created us,while u say your life is in your own hands.Y can't u tune your life how u want?Y can't u tell your future?Isn't it your life?Answer

U answer my YES or NO question? No u no answer, u dey talk blah blah blah like whale wey swallow Jonah. Christians and their blame game, It's God this, God that, they will never take responsibility for their lives. Anyway got to go, I'll try holla at u maybe next week to check if Persus don fly in on Pegasus , sorry I mean jesus on the white horse. By wait my guy, the guy no sabi keep time ooo, abi na african time e dey use . Make people dey wait u for 2000 years, amke u no even fit show face or send message say ' abeg people no vex ooo, na Pegasus get small problem with im wings ooo, i go show later
But to say Perseus don carry u go your mansion, abeg just save 1 room for me make i squat when i land.LOL!!!!!

@Idi-Amin
your own god is in your mind?U could be right though.If only u could prove 2 me d various mysteries in our own planets?y they r so?y we still have lots of qusetions unanswered?Y the greatest enemy of man-DEATH still remains shrouded in mystery?Since your life is urs,your god in your mind,u should know when u'll die and other mysteries of your life


I have 1 question for you. Do you believe that if u travel far enough into the sky, go higher and higher, you will get to this place called heaven where the streets are made of gold and the gates are made of pearls and you have a mansion waiting there for you with 10 bedrooms and floors are made with precious stones, and your God is a white man with beard sitting on a golden throne, Just answer YES or NO, i don't want any religious jargons. If u say yes, I am going to laugh my head off!!!! The white man has deceived you. LOL!!!!! You dont have to answer, I know from your signature that u are waiting for that white dude with blond air (looks like Dolph Lungren ) to appear in the sky on a white horse (like Persus riding on Pergasus in 'clash of the titans ) to take you to your mansion in heaven. I CAN"T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID. You'll have been waiting for him for 2,000 years, don't worry you will die and your great grand children will still be waiting CHRIST IS COMING SOON!!!! LOL!!!

By the way, why do u call death the greatest enemy of man. Doesn't your 'word of God' say 'the day of death is better than the day of one's birth'? You dont even believe the bible. Death is the best thing that can happen to anybody. the greatest enemy of man is that flesh you carrying around thinking that is YOU, when u look in the mirror. You get rid of that body, that's the best thing that can happen to that SOUL, that SOUL is free to go back to the creator of all things. Anyway, u christians believe we will go to hell and burn for eternity if we dont believe like u. Well sorry we dont, we are not stupid.

@mazaje
You need to leave philip0906 alone. You need to understand Christians and their mindset. They believe only they know the truth and the whole world is in error and going to hell that their God/Jesus has prepared for people who don't believe in THEIR reality. It is sad.
When a mind has been programmed in that belief system, there is no point trying to present facts.
Religion is the most dangerous thing ever created by man.

Africans!!!!!! Listen oooo
It pains me when I see black people believing in a make-believe God that the white man invented and gave to your fore-fathers and has been passed down to us all. And we all are looking for power in the God of the bible, a book of stories of things that never existed in history. Stories of a donkey talking to a human being, a man living inside a fish for 3 days, 1 man defeating an army with a jaw-bone of an ass, 5000 people eating 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread and plenty left over. LOL!!!! One thing about black people is that they feel 'THINKING' & 'REASONING' is a bad thing. They will choose to believe make-beleive extra-ordinary stories than things that make sense. There is not 1 ounce of historical or archaeological evidence on this planet that 1 person in the Bible existed. Nobody can show the resting place of 1 person in the Bible. Not Abraham, Noah, David, King Solomon, Jesus, Paul,Peter,not 1. In Egypt today, you can go and see undeniable evidence of ancient Egyptians that lived six, eight, even twelve thousand years ago, you can see the tombs of the kings, the writings. EVIDENCE. But just 2,000 years ago no undeniable evidence of 1 person in the Bible. Yet our people do not think, they choose to believe something they cannot prove.

The indoctrination started when we were all 2-3 years old, and we did not have a choice in the matter, we believed the stories and believed that the blue-eyed, blond hair white guy called JESUS is our LORD. I can understand for a child not to ask questions and just swallow it. But when you grow up and have a brain to reason and question, it's already too late because indoctrination from age 3 is a powerful thing that can follow one to his grave. Even the so called 'word of God' says 'when I was a child I behaved and thought as a child, but when I became a man, I put away childish things'

Before the white man came to our African shores with their bibles and christian indoctrinations, what were your ancestors doing? The white man has convinced us that our ancestors that lived thousands of years ago were witches and devil worshippers. that's a lie! Africans always had a consciousness of the creator. They have convinced us that we were in darkness, and they have brought to us truth and controlled our minds with that false religion called christianity.

It makes my heart bleed when I see my people calling on the name of a dude called Jesus who never existed, and has no power to give them. IT IS A PLACEBO. That is why Africa has all the resources, but live the poorest. The white man gave you the believe system and took away your resources in exchange.

Iam not an atheist, I believe in the creator (I dont like using the word God), but the creator is not a white man with a beard sitting on a throne in a place behind the clouds where there are streets of gold. The creator is the consciousness in the heart of every human on the planet, regardless of race or religion.

My guy, Run for your life ooo!!!
when u hear 'I will die for you' 'I cannot live without you' 'you are my whole life', borrow Usain Bolt anointing and take off!!!
Na dis kind babes dey pour acid for man face if they catch you cheating.
Like they say, a word is enough for the wise.