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uglybetty:
some people no sabi talk!! the man dey vex me slf.I advice him and his so callesd 1st lady, to go to a speech management class or rehab.

your opinion or feelings dont count in the grand scheme of things, so u better go see a therapist if you having issues with presido cos he no know you

She better be pregnant,

musKeeto:
My dad is Igbo. My mum is Etche. Born and bred in ph. To be honest, even if the devil was a southerner, southerners would still vote him. We want power, nothing wrong with that, but if Gej is just a puppet in the hanfs of Pdp. Simple and short,

What the heck is etche? una don start again dey call the name of your village as your ethnic group, if u no know who u are maybe you should stroll to the North or the SW and they will clearly tell you who you are, Na so Odili dey parade himself like "I am a riversman" and Edwin Clark Opened his yanssh real wide,

jason123:
You took those words from my mouth!

ooo wee another rascal down, remaining that inglorious bas.ta.rd fstranger

eku_bear:
Na wa o.

Guess I'm done here

ADIOS, one down one to go

fstranger3:
Tua

The above can only come from someone with an Ibo brain

Are you Ibo?

Such a daft question can only come from A rascal , are you one of those rascals described by our dear Presido, you dey see my user name and u dey ask me daft question, Awolowo u no try at all, upon not your education policy in the west yet the schools are still spitting out such half baked nicompoops like this thing, By the way the user name should answer your question  

fstranger3:
Are you this silly in real life?


Did you take any critical thinking class in college?


Go back and read his post, this time , read it slowly and make sure there is a dictionary by your side, you need it.

ignorance is bliss they say, I am the author of what I said and dont need you telling me to read it. Imagine a rascal trying to teach me, wonders shall never end, You should read my quote instead and make sense out of it biscuit brain

jason123:
How can ACN (who only had Lagos) OUTBID  PDP (who has almost all the states including the federal government)? Remember, that the state fund was restricted from Lagos in this period.

ACN is not a tribal party. if it was, they would not win in Edo state.

How you ask? Easy.

Here is a common sense example. If PDP has 100billion to spend and ACN has 30billion to spend. The mere fact PDP is widespread and they are concerned about their party's performance round the country dilutes the power of that 100billion when spread across the 36 states. On the other hand ACN's 30billion can go a long way in the states of the SW and 1 or 2 additional states outside the SW so they have more bang for their bucks as they dont dilute its Purchasing Power Parity, You think ACN go bother campaign for Zamfara? dem know the outcome already so they just focus in their backyard and pray for one or two miracles outside of the SW

eku_bear:
Tinubu must be very powerful, that he has more money available for bribing that the entire PDP which controls the Nigerian FG and the billions of dollars at its disposal. . .

Or perhaps it is only Tinubu and the ACN who buy votes and rig elections, and the PDP is clean as snow? 

Under these assumptions of yours, perhaps then we shouldn't put much stock in the ACN's success outside of Yorubaland 

Now who ever said PDP is a party of SAINts aint being honest. Your deductions from my assumptions is based on fallacy. My supposed assumption is the ACN has money to buy people, shouldn't it be logical then to see success outside of yoruba land if they pay the right price? How you arrived at less success outside of yoruba land beats me

eku_bear:
So ACN/Yoruba people outbribed PDP/rest of Nigeria for Edo votes.

Na wa o, these ACN people have some serious money. . .

AH AH make I bring Tinubu CV show you before you go know say some serious ego dey that party?, no be play o.

jason123:
It's like the SW has started manipulating their Numbers like the North

then again SW #'s could be true [b]if and only if [/b]11million is coming from Lagos and 7million from the remaining states cos we all know Lagos is the most populated state in Nigeria and has more than SW indigenes residing in it.

fstranger3:
I guess Edos are Yorubas then, init?

Drop it already, like the rest of your lineage, you are a fool.

Am a fool and u are a DERANGED B.AS.TARD  TYPICAL RASCAL

Dem tell u say Oshiomole victory na landslide or was a consensus outcome? He won no doubt but there are still potent oppositions who cant just be written away. You cant come here and say EDO states is all for ACN


ANUOFIA 

eku_bear:
What does that have to do with anything?

Ultimately, this is a bit ret@rded. If the ACN is a Yoruba tribal party, how the hell did they convince people from another tribe to vote for them? Must have been some very powerful juju.

you dey talk like novice abi u no know FOR NIGERIA MONEY TALKS BULLSHIT WORKS?

eku_bear:
Citizens of Edo State suffice, I suppose?

IT Wouldn't be fair to say that the stance of the citizens of EDO is representative of that of the Nation,

Wadeoye:
INEC Voters Registration figures.

- South South = 7million
- South East = 7million
- South West = 18 million
- North West = 18 million
- North Central = 8million
- North East = 8million

I don't know why a group with only 7million votes (if they return all) are making noise and killing themselves before the election just because one of their own is contesting.

With one man one vote, there is no way Jonathan will win and those people, I am sorry, have only died in vain.

Source please? If true o boy then SW don follow North dey use cow and goat take dey register,

eku_bear:
This "tribal party" slander is foolishness.

yup foolishness to its members but not to outsiders, you cant be adjudged to be an impartial person on the matter.

A better litmus test would be to ask Non-SW nigerians and Non-Igbo Nigerians and see what the prevalent view is among them.

DaLover:
Jason123,
I have tried with facts and historical evidences to show you that AC is a tribal party with its major support base in the southwest, and for some reason you fail to see this obvious point, either because of my inability to effective push across this simple point or your self denial.

I also tried to show you that on the strenght of past records AC/ADs states on the average have not performed better than PDP controlled states, and what ever little success was achieved, be it PDP or AC was based on the individual capacity of the governor ruling that state.

The question is why should non yoruba person choose a currupt SW party over a currupt party that has membership across the country
Instead you want me to convince you that PDP is a more national party than AC, Well I don't think this needs further trashing. Use your church mind to decide,

But in case your may not know, there is a special relationship between a leader and his/her followers and in most cases it transends techical ability. It is an unexplainable believe the follower has that the leader has his interest at heart. Once this believe is broken, the leader no longer becomes acceptable in the eyes of the follower, its a hearts and mind thing, belonging to a tribal orientated party actualy sell you short in the eyes of other ethnic groups in this country, no matter how good your technical abilities are, For this simple reason that Awolowo was never accepted in the rest of the country, no matter his achievements in Lagos, and that is why fashola cannot be the president of Nigeria,

Weather you like it or not, Fashola would have stood a better chance of becoming Nigerias president as a performing PDP governor.

Its like asking a technically gived member of KKK to become president to become president of the USA, Black americans will never accept it, no matter his achievements, or asking a black panthers member to become president, whites will never accept it,

But before we derail from the original topic, PDP with GEJ rsents a better choice for nigerians now than whoever AC try to present because like I said before tribal platform has been tried and tested, proven to be truely tribal bigots by surrendering all SW states to OBJ because a yoruba man was at the center, but now want their states back because this is no longer the case,

Jason123, i am not blaming you, as a Yoruba man in a currupt country like nigeria, your default natural alternative is look for the option likely to take care of your interest first, and that would be AC, but the same cannot apply to the rest of the country, Just be true to yourself
Don't try hard to convince me that AC is better than PDP, cos I know that,
They have the smae messed up leadership,
There has been no significant inprovement in human capital development, Job creation, innovative wealth creation, sustained technological advancement, reduction incurruption in any AD/AC or PDP states.

take care and be true to yourself

o boy i swear u carry first from primary 1 to primary 6, Hit the nail on the head spot on, ACN, PDP it doesnt matter all are corrupt, however people will be more willing to vote PDP than ACN, your analogy about the KKK and Black panther is very true. I think FASHOLA is doing wonders in LAGOS but if he runs for president on an ETHNOCENTRIC PARTY LIKE ACN then count me out, ACN will be always powerful in the SW but other states I dont see them having successive victories term after term, it is going to be fluctuating.

Katsumoto:
Stop being disingenuous and duplicitous. The point PhysicsMHD was making is that a man who made such ethnically charged speeches must have assumed others were not listening to him when he was seeking to become their leader. If some of these speeches were made in the 40s, when did the epiphany occur that made Zik realise that he loved western region more than the eastern for him to have sought to become the leader of the western region? Nothing wrong in loving your group and announcing it but other groups are not daft enough to allow a man, who has professed love and admiration for his own group, to become their leader. I am sorry but you keep assuming that other groups in Nigeria are daft, or at least not as smart as the Igbo.

Like I have always said, a stranger cannot love and protect your house more than you, the occupant of the house. If there is a fire in such a house, a stranger will grab is own belongings first before making for the exit leaving his host's properties to burn. It is silly to compare songs written by juju musicians waxing lyric about politicians to speeches delivered by politicians.

I agree with you 100%. thats why Awo has always been my hero, Effing igbos dont get it. Awo was a moddasucking tribalist and that is the way to go, your own first (look after yours for gaddam sake), The effing igbos are there talking about lets live in harmony BOOLSH!T Like some 1960 American Hippie,

Geez thats why I like islam too, upfront and blunt, we cant co exist so its islam or die(a yansh for a yansh), but christians will be doing slap me and i'll offer you the other cheek WTF?

Men I rep Igbo with a tribal vigor just like my hero AWO repped his people with a tribal vigor. (long live AWO)

deadie:
Not to blame the entire Yoruba tribe, but if after the role call all 10 persons involved in the crime had been Igbo's, this thread would certainly have been more interesting.

dont blame gini? talk well, why not? when these rASCALS are busy over running the country they need to be called out, checked and put in order ah ah or are you afraid that the RASCALS will come here and open their mouth?

jason123:
1) Yes, I believe ACN is better than PDP. Why? Because, firstly, they showed political maturity and resilience when PDP won all the states except Lagos( yoruba state) which promted OBJ (a yoruba man) to seize the funds coming to lagos.
Secondly, ALL PDP governors have violated the SW and indeed the country while ACN have done the opposite, that is why it (ACN) would win outside the SW (EDO state)
2) When you said it is impossible for ACN to rule this country because of yoruba this, this is a quick question, ARE their candidates yorubas Is RIBADU and (hopefully) Ngozi okonjo Iwela, yoruba The merger was meant to give ACN a national character but Buhari wanted to be the flag bearer, that was why it broke down. Do you know Chris Ngige is in ACN?

From the first two points, can you see that you are the one looking at things from a tribal point of view and not from a nationalistic point of view.

3) You are right when you talked about Godfatherism etc but do you think if Fashola decamps from ACN, he would not win Lagos state? Have you noticed that that "God fatherism" does not really work in the North (especially in the NW) and SW? Eg, OGD and OBJ are fighting, Ciroma and Atiku and also, Fashola would still win Lagos no matter the party he decamps to.

4) You and I cannot judge on how things are at the LG level because they have limited control and resourses, for example, how many roads are controlled by the LGs? How much funding do they get? Even if there is any development made by the LGs, you would not see it because you do not stay in one LG for the better part of your life, do you? What I mean by that is, you probably move from one LG is another even single day but you probably stay in one state for a longer period of time, so you really cannnot judge.

5) Your last point is quite saddening, the reason is, you are the one looking at issues from a tribal point of view. Okay, how do you know that a party is a tribal party? Is it because of the rotation or zoning, that is how you conclude PDP is a national party? Every party ( not too sure about APGA though ) has members all over the country. If a "tribal party" like APGA, CPC or ACN can bring your development and make things work, why not vote for them?? The person that would rule you would probably be someone from your own ethnic group ( if that is what you want, judging from what you typed) and on National issues, if these "tribal parties"  would give you the much needed hope the country desperately need, then why not vote for them


It is because of the rotation in PDP and the idea that someone from the ND is ruling this country, that is why most of the ND would vote for him (GEJ) although he has nothing to offer. Most people are not really concerned about where the president comes from.
We Nigerians do not know what we want, when we say, "we want change, development etc" but we do not mean it. I mean, how can we justify a vote for GEJ? He has no clear manifesto, no blue-print, yet we would still vote for him . While other people would vote for him because of the perceived "North", but the question is, is the north not sufferring has your people are
Let us do away with tribal or regional sentiments, please, we do not need that in Nigeria. Thank you. I would be expecting your reply.

your whole write up is contradictory, if you allude to the fact that a party is tribal then why would/should we vote for it when it has a tribal approach rather than a national one(hence it is called a tribal party), Now I will not call any of the party tribal but please dont write about 'tribal" and then use "national" in the same sentence cos thats fallacy.  If we agree someone is tribal then there is no need even voting for him in the first place cos talking about he will bring development (yea to his tribal area that is) is a joke.

Now I am all for tribal parties but let them remain in their tribal area of influence and forget Aso rock if being tribal is what they want.

Jonathan na presido come April I don confirm am, ask me how?

North go vote for Islam canididate no brainer
Tribalistic yorubas will vote for a yoruba party or candidate which means ACN
No way South SOuth no go vote for GEJ
NO way SE no go vote for GEJ
Middle belt don tire for their northern bros, so dem go vote GEJ,

I dey laugh oooo at hausa and tirbalistic odua when election don finish dem go shatap.

sbeezy8:
not really a big deal

Fashola u r too good to even trade words with obj- gej-akala-oyinlola

first i was thinking maybe fashola should run for president but naw i actually want more of a tribal party for ACN- to be cohesive like the old days. OBJ Akintola really fuckd it up.

SW was progressing when they were ALONE no need to be at the center of everything.

GEJ should just win presidency with votes from the SS SE middle belt and NE-

I WOULD RATHER ACN and Labour party be labeled tribal awoist and SW leaders than in the same light with OBJ ZIK etc

Yoruba folks should relax not really that serious

finally one odua wey body no dey hot, common discussion/talk and people wan cry put , shoooo

hollandis:
Fashola is just a fool

He is not, he is just a rascal. working for drug baron tinubu thats all

yoruba and yahoo yahoo na wa o, Omo Odua una too much gbosa gbosa

Eko Ile:
Ode, I take rascal over being an irrelevant nobody like ibo people,

u don sell everything you get and worth to the highest bidder.

Na you buy am? Anuofia shatap my friend i am talking and you RASCAL is talking too, no respect, From Tinubu (the drug Baron) to Bode George all first class RASCALS, una dey cry cos my presido talk true, If only words dey make yoruba cry like this imagine if war start? Bunch of Rascals and cowards,

And Oh yea igbos are irrelevant? who wants to be relevant in this non entity called Nigeria? I guess rascal yorubas thats why they are crying over comment, only comment o CHAI, IGbo Kwenu,

Eko Ile:
Ode. Do you see Yoruba people clamoring for Aso Rock like ibo people? Abi no be ibo people dey cry all over the place because den no gree dem entrance to Aso Rock?


The highest ibo in government dey #6 and you dey here dey hola rubbish? shameless people,

Ogbanje mechionu , By their utterances we can classify dem, Yup definitely from a rascal from the rascal region.

He is very right , Bunch of Rascals and agberos and touts we have in the SW.mSCHEW

seanet02:
ODECHUKWU have already failed this country

So what.?  yoruba get their chance dem fail, hausa get their chance dem fail, now e don reach GEJ u dey expect miracle? I expect him to fail wella but free am cos when odUA OBJ dey wreck this country we let am, JEALOUSY chai cos say odua no dey Aso rock,

Beaf:
Some peeps claim to have morals, yet love drug lords? Wonders! Anyways, here is the rascality proving document again:

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Odua Peeps, Dem go gree? All their leaders na agbero fraudster, see them hailing ACN mean while the top hench man na crook, GEJ was very right although he fell short cos it is not just the leaders but the people tooo, Anuofias

190:
[color=deeppink]one of the men even hold bible

i bet that guy hasnt been to church since april 2008[/color]

LOL, how u take know the month and year? na wa o

Me I am going to be very prejudice in my voting (something AWO taught me), If you aint from the Niger Delta I aint voting for your @$$ period,