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Shma2022:
Al shabab was wrecking havoc between 1970- 2005. Your military was joyriding. They did nothing. We had to initiate operation "Linda inji" ( protect our land) cos the militia were becoming too much! The day we deployed our military in Somalia, peace has since been restored. Yes, the action was quite consequential, but we're now enjoying peace.

whatever makes you sleep well at night.
Good night ma'am

rvp20182:
UN peace keeping. Kenya were in Europe, Asia and name them.
Please defeat Boko Haram
And we might respect you.

Those places you listed, Nigeria been to more European countries and Asian countries x5 of times Kenya been there.

Ever head of Burma war,
The Japanese were so much afraid of the Nigeria soldiers that simply ran when the heard Nigerian troops are advancing.

Who cares about your respect, maybe youbshouod rather respect Turkana people and provide food for them. Isn't that enough disgrace to Kenya?

gallivant:
Look at Somalia today, failed Nigerian mission.

Kenya only entered Somalia when the heat was getting close to your Capital. And alshabab had already began raiding Kenyan city. So you had to enter to secure your interest, nothing special.



Okay... You have been noticed Ma'am.

Shma2022:
Logistic performance index proves us otherwise - Kenya is doing better than Nigeria despite her 4 times Kenya's population.

Budget-wise, if we go per capita way, then we beat Nigeria by far.
Men in uniform mean nothing! Uganda has more military men than kenya, but they obey our rule.

Being in DRC means nothing. Stop M23 then we can talk.

Kdf has captured one of the most dangerous city in Somalia - Kismayo(Alshabaab hotspot). Not even Americans dared; we went there with brain and strategy - majority of African military lacks that.

some history for you, this was when the maumau were been deballed by the British our men were at your backyard saving Somalia

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Nigerian troops in somalia

Far back as 1993

rvp20182:
Why would Boko Haram even exist if you have proffesional, well trained, well educated army. SURELY.
What you need is Tonje moment - because you have to fight with YOUR BRAIN

Tonje retired 23yrs ago but remain revered - his gift - was his brain - always top in class

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/commentary/article/2001370813/new-kdf-boss-must-not-disappoint-daudi-tonje
Few soldiers make lasting and memorable impact. They often do things for the common good because those things need doing. They care for the ‘commons’ rather than for individual advancement but, in so doing, they inadvertently advance their interests in terms of positive legacies.

One Kenyan soldier fits this bill well. That is Daudi Tonje.

Gen (Rtd) Daudi Tonje, one of the celebrated KDF officers, carried out a revolution in the military. Introducing professionalism, merit and world class standards that endures to this day.

stop capping nonsense,
If I decide to post Nigerian military success home and abroad, it will derail the thread.

We were in Goa in DRC long before Kenya even had a military,
The Nigerian military were the soldiers that took over from the US during the 'black Huck/Alshabab period when the later failed in their mission. We were among the first countries that formed
UNISOM(United Nations mission in Somalia).
We fought in Somalia, Sudan, and DRC/ZAIRE.

As far back as early 60s we were already in DRC then ZAIRE.

We drove a sitting president away from Gambia when he refused to relinquish power to his successor in 2018 and secured it with our special forces. Our Navy entered by sea our air Force jet patrolled the skies of Gambia. And our army we're on ground to fight, the president had to run.

We almost single handedly liberated Liberia and Sierra Leone during their Civil war. Go read up the battle for mammy Yoko.

We only recently pulled out of UN missions when we needed our experience men to deal with ISWAP in the sahel region and Boko Haram, and indeed they ha e been defeated.

Kenyan military just entered foreign missions and have tasted the sweet money one gets from fireing countries, so you seem to like it like a new wife, don't worry even Ethiopia at some point was the highest contributor to UN in terms of soldiers. But now, no one is interested except Kenya.

Whatever you think you have or are doing, the Nigerian military does it x5.

Men
Equipments
Logistics.
Army
Air Force
Navy.
Etc

rvp20182:
Nigeria has 360,000 military with almost same budget as kenya - with 25,000 troops - and you can see why KDF is more effective - welfare (paid 3-5 times Nigeria, all have life insurance of upto 100,000usd if they die, and are equiped with latest equipments).

KDF troops in DRC enforcing law and order

Nigeria has a cumulative budget bigger than all subsahara African country and 3rd biggest in Africa, just behind Egypt and Algeria. At $5billion while Kenya is just $1.8billion.

Nigerian army just won Africa's best land forces 2022.
Learn to measure with your equals. Nigerian military is way above your reach.

https://punchng.com/nigerian-army-wins-africas-best-land-force-award/

Odunayaw:
The only good thing about it is that I had a sigh of relief

Local man was only about aliens & mysterious revelations

It's good to know his soldier salutes to Eve's daughters

his quire behaviour is that of one deprived of that kind of pleasure.


He is really leading a very lonely and painful life. To him everything is a conspiracy.

kikuyu1:
The young niggas, you mean? Let them! They know where you I am! Come to think of it they've been wayyyy quiet these past few hrs. Maybe, [b]just maybe [/b]they're offline in the real world looking for a Sanchi and that magical place to take her instead of 24/7 ululating about non existent J/Uke wins or Naij Mopol mechanics posing as Special Forces Olympics.
I hope so!

why do you disturb yourself with another country's AF?
Rather than post half naked women why not drop one picture of your military here,that relates to the thread topic.
I think you are actually the most jobless and annoying poster here.

You have enough starving and dieing kids in Turkana to worry about.

gallivant:
Who will end Nigerian exploitation if you go pandering in Central Africa? I am going to assume your ideas as wishful thinking.

bla de bla!







Well, good thing is, you've been noticed at least...

rvp2018:
Obasanjo is now Nigeria president? or am missing something here. This is more a personal visit.

I'm referring to DRC president

GeneralDae:
Wow quiet a number of Nigerian industrialists there. It means we are already ahead of Kenya in business with Dr Congo. Not just talk or celebration of one or two banks. Nigeria even have three banks doing well on average in Dr Congo.


Amb. Leke Adebiyi will serve as e Interim Secretary. Obasanjo and President Tshisekedi Tshilombo are the Patrons.

The delegation to the DRC included Sanginga, El-Rufai, Anambra Governor Chukwuma Soludo, retired Gen. Martin Luther Agwai, Professor Bart Nnaji, Professor Peter Okebukola and Amb. Robert Adeleke Adebiyi.

Others were Semiu Kolawole Adesina – Sahara Energy Limited Nigeria, Ajibola Adebutu – Founder, JB Farms Lagos Nigeria, Stella Okoli – Founder, Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Edem Adzogenu–Co-Founder, Afrochampions, and Jimi Lawal, El-Rufai’s senior advisor.

I really wish we can look beyond, investment and help them deal with some security problems. That country needs honest support from AU, a lot has been stolen and still being stolen from that Rich vast country. We can immediately summon UG and RW leaders to stop supporting M23, and then we seek ways to stop the exploitation, off course with reduced taxation on our businesses.

While some countries celebrate because their banks entered DRC.

Others are busy upgrading theirs to involve Govt-Govt partnership.



Obasanjo spoke in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo when he led two governors, four industrialists, security and energy experts among others on an investment drive.

The ex-leaders trip to the Central African country was upon a request from President Felix Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo.

https://dailypost.ng/2022/11/01/obasanjo-announces-nigeria-congo-business-council-el-rufai-appointed-vp/?amp=1




Next the president will request we help them deal with Rwandan incursion into his country, militarily.

Well, we have been to Congo under ZAIRE nothing stops us from going there again to loose her from the Ugandan and Rwanda grip.

That's how big brothers role.

rvp2018:
The zoo has huge window of opportunity to turn back the tide if they elect Peter Obi - otherwise Atiku is usual northern fool and Tinubu is washed up.

just shut up and go to bed.
You clearly are trying to make sense from nonsense in the end it will still be nonsense.

73massacred 4yrs ago, and it made news, worry about those lives lost in Kenya due to hunger and negligence by your govt. Why should most arable lands be used for farming tea and flower instead of growing grains for local consumption?

Wuoche:
80% of Tanzanian buses are fabricated in Kenya, the remaining 20% are from China.

Assembled in Kenya, not fabricated

Wuoche:
These ones are on their way to Tanzania. They are from AVA.

so you agree you import and assemble to export, good one though. If it were more than that, they AVA, would use AVA and not Scania branding.

Wuoche:
Another buses exported to Tanzania. Notice the AVA logo on the windscreen.

if you wish to refute my point please do so at least with pictures of the plant they are 'manufactured' let's see.

Wuoche:
The only thing we import is the chassis. Everything else is made in Kenya. If you look at the lower windscreen on the left you will see a logo written AVA. That's the fabricator.

my point still stands, you only import to reexport to TZ

Wuoche:
You are celebrating carrier bags while Kenya export buses to Tanzania? How many carrier bags do you think will equal the price of one bus?

re-export to Tanzania is a more appropriate word to use.

You only import and export to Tanzania, with 0 modifications, so whats there to be proud of?

Fini

ABJ

Abuja
Nigeria

Shma2022:
That's not my idea, ask the person who recommended that.

Transportation
Mombasa has both rail, sea, pipeline, and road transportation.
Abuja has only rail and road.

Sanitation
I don't have data, for this. But with the high rate of open defecation in Abuja, the rank will definitely be lower.

Schools
... There are more international schools in Mombasa. We established this on another thread. More universities and other learning institutions.

Health facilities
I can't tell. I have no data.
Population
.......?
Economy
Mombasa has a GDP of $7.7B while Abuja has $5.8B.
Housing.
Mombasa wins.
Tourism
Mombasa wins.
Eco friendly
Mombasa wins. And Nairobi was ranked number 4 in Africa after cape town, Tunis, and Marrakesh.

You have google maps. We can use that to check your streets. You don't need a cameraman to help you.

how did you switch from Nairobi to Mombasa, all lies though.
BTW what's pipeline transportation
Do you guys travel in pipelines in Nairobi?

Forget it, Abuja is not your regular African city.
It's a Serene city yet big things happen their. More like Western standard...
While Lagos is Africa's social capital.

Shma2022:
My bro, Nairobi Is too much for Abuja. But
since I promised a picture test, I will not disappoint.

So, I will post 4, you post 4. Until we exhaust them.

People should not interfere with this test. Any interference will mean immediate disqualification.

I will start.

I only have 30mins here. So we should finish this as quickly as possible.

Nope comparisons are not dobe that way.
It's bland to just compare stuffs like that,
Rather you compare key areas, like
Transportation
Sanitation
Schools
Health facilities
Population
Economy
Housing
Tourism
Eco friendly
Etc.

Posting random pics, will definitely not go well,
Kenya is all about Nairobi, so youve got a thousand pics... Abuja doesn't get filmed regularly. So yeah!

Shma2022:
Amazing!
Kenya is building the largest sea port in sub-Saharan ( outside SA).
Kenya is building Nairobi - Mombasa expressway 600km there about.
Kenya has just completed Nairobi expressway, which started slightly after your light rails.
Kenya has just finished lapset highway --- mombasa to Ethiopia and south Sudan.
Kenya is still constructing SGR phase 2.
Kenya is constructing tech city.
Kenya is doing Twake, itare, karimenu and siyoi mega dams.
Kenya is doing lamu garisa road, around 300km.

Kenya is doing mau Mau Road, around 540km.
Kenya is doing Turkana lamu pipeline, around 850km. Worth $ 1.2B
Kenya is set to do tana river nuclear plant at around $5.5B thereabout.

And many other grand projects.

lol go through my list again and tell me if what you listed as projects are comparable to mine.

I noticed, when ever you guys mention subsahara or East and central Africa, it's an excuse to lie.

And No, you not building SSahara African biggest or second biggest sea port, until you show me how you arrived at that.

The rest stuff you listed as projects, are basic social amenities nothing spectacular.

Just imagine it was in Kenya, these were happening
-building dangotes world biggest refinery,
- worlds 2nd biggest fertilizer plant.
-Lagos light rail
- Abuja light rail
- numerous state Airports
-eco Atlantic
-lekki deep sea port, badagry deep sea port
-numerous Rice Mills
And other grand projects,

They would have long driven everyone away

My post is in reponse to this post on rico swaveys death- https://www.nairaland.com/7382358/dying-rico-swavey-left-unattended

Let me start by saying its indeed painful to have lost Rico in such a painful manner. may his soul find rest in the the great beyond.

However, let's not be quick to always blame our medical personnel's for any wrong turn of event.
If you really watch that video, you'd notice it wasn't the nurses that were recording, no nurse will even be with her phone in such emergency. One nurse was even pleading with the people that brought the patient to help her place him on a bed,Of course they were all more interested in making news than saving life.
No one ever considers the mental and physical well being of our medical personnels.
In a society like ours, were the hospitals are under staffed and under equipped no one seems to blame the govt, but we all are so much in a hurry to blame the medics when a patient suffers harm or death.

Indeed some personnel's are guilty of negligence and medical malpractic, but those who try their best in saving lives should be commended.
I've worked in a general hospital were only the CNO her assistant are expected to attend to pregnant women, accident victims and out patients.
Staffing is a major issue, as a Doctor or nurse, you're expected to perform your duty even when you're physically exhausted.

Before you accuse a nurse of not performing her duty, kindly inquire about her well being.
-how long has she been on duty,
- are there more important cases on ground.
-is my person's case more critical than the other
-how many staff are on duty
-how long has the doctor been on duty.
-do they have the required equipment


The Govt hasn't fuctioned in it's capacity to provide quality and affordable health care to Nigerians, though health centers are available, they lack adequate man power.

dapotemi:
This are the same set of people relocating (japa) to UK/US/CANADA etc...Someone recently predicted that 5 to 10 years from now, alot of nigerian doctors/nurses will be in prison abroad....

not everything that comes to your mind has sense in it for you to write.

Nigerian medics have been working abroad, even before you were born, how many of them have you seen in prisons, a Nigerian doctor recently became World Medical Association president, does that look like prison for you.

GeneralDae:
I agree. However, this grain business is still big because it is situated in the second most populated state in Nigeria with around 20 million people and majority are employed by these and other agricultural activities.
Textile is also big in this state employing millions but informal trade as well.

Kano population is not near 20m sir.

Have you done business in kano. Do you know how much grains gets exported to neighbouring countries( Chad, Cameroon and Niger).
Don't let that Kenyan guy work you to believe all Nigerian farmers do is produce and sell in local markets at cheap prices.
There are big business men who buy in bulk from farmers and rebag their grains for export.(our govt only fail in implementing price control)
Just the fishing business in baga, its so huge that it can comfortably generate huge revenue for the govt if taxation goes on well.

save Tea, what does Kenya have to boast of in agriculture? Tea can easily be controlled by their Govt, but not so much with grains.
Maybe if the Kenyans were a little less concerned about making money from every farmer and making everything 'formal' there wouldn't be need for the yearly food aids they receive.
Let's put it straight, ''KENYANS ARE HUNGRY''

Mkenya2019:
Before Nigeria and South Africa wake up - Kenya banks will be running the 80M people DRC - with 95% unbanked population. GOLD MINE.

KCB Group has entered the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) through the acquisition of a majority stake in Trust Merchant Bank (TMB), becoming the second Kenyan lender to enter the populous market as top local banks step up the fight for new customers in the East African region.

KCB said it has entered a definitive agreement with shareholders of TMB with the transaction expected to close in the third quarter of 2022.
https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/business/kcb-acquires-dr-congo-bank-in-expansion-drive-3901282
“This will see KCB acquire 85 percent of the shares in TMB while the existing shareholders will continue to hold the balance for a period of not less than two years after which KCB will acquire their assets,” said KCB.

“KCB will pay a cash consideration for the shares determined based on the net asset value of TMB at the completion of the proposed transaction, and using a price to book multiple of 1.49.”

TMB is a public company limited by shares and has a strong offering in retail, corporate, and small and medium enterprises.

Once the acquisition of TMB is concluded, it will complement KCB’s regional footprint with an asset base of more than Ksh1.5 trillion ($12.6 billion).

Add Ethiopia that will soon be opening up as they will be desperate to rebuild after mindless civil-war

The deal now means KCB has a presence in eight countries including Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda, Burundi, South Sudan and DRC. It also runs a representative office in Ethiopia.

while your banks are migrating, we are colonising your banking sector, how many of our banks are in Kenya again? Now That's how to compete.

Look what I found in Sufferinandsmillin thread.
This is gross.


Just look at what this guy is all about..
Does he seem half as exposed or learned as a villager.
This is the brain of someone who claims to have been to almost all European countries, America and Asia, has.

Is the guy not mentally unstable.
rvp2018
Shma, see who supplies you info about Nigeria.