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budaatum:
Says the expert in distortion. But its being pointed out that you might be resetting, so there's hope for a cure.

Resetting?
Those are just the AI written posts sounding more reasonable.

DeepSight:
That it can be so open, so in-their-faces, so boldfaced and without tangible resistance is what really fascinates me.
Somewhere in the belly of much of white and middle America, I cant help feeling, rests the willingness to allow Trump any atrocity in compensation for what was the greatest abomination they could ever imagine - the fact that a black man ever became their president with a black first lady to boot.

That's the truth.
And even the further abomination that they believe that they are being displaced by immigrants.
If you can even imagine the concept of that.
How can people with all the privilege of decades of citizenship in the US be displaced by immigrants with none.
Instead of looking inward they decide they will let Trump brutalize them and the US as a means to wallow in their victimhood.
But what happens when the immigrants are gone? Will W. Virginia or Mississippi not be poverty stricken states any longer?

The only upside is that Trump has allowed us to see who people really are esp. white people in our friend groups..

cococandy:
I hope these ones on here (including Ibe okehie that swore he will support Trump with his life ) are willing to give up their citizenship and their children’s citizenship to satisfy their partisan agenda.

Yeye dey smell. Imagine selling yourself and pride for pennies. To be caricatured and constantly embarrassed by such a putrid blob of orange maleficence. Eew

If not luck and racism, on a level playing field where two men are born into the exact same circumstances, what African man can Trump measure up to realistically? And this is my sincere honest opinion. There’s nothing remotely worthy of respect about him. He can’t even hold a candle to a decent below average black man.

I hate that I love them more than they love themselves. Because it’s disgusting to me and embarrassing to watch people who should be odogwu on a normal day cowtow to such a mess of a person.

Like we get that the system is the way it is and there’s not much anyone can do except survive or hopefully thrive in it. But to bow to this melting weakling is just other levels of embarrassing.

(IMHO. lol 🤣)

Exp. the part of luck and circumstance.
I don't think how many people know how circumstance(wealth) played a huge role in a lot of wealthy people from Bill gates to Elon Musk.
The same circumstances denied African Americans through the slavery segregation period.
Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell is a good read.

It's infinitely harder to gain wealth without wealth or a network that you can access it.

bayelsaowei:
Trump is a Nigerian politician.. but he can go ahead and steal directly from the American coffers.. he’s got slaves as congress men/women and worshippers as supporters.

Trump please go ahead.

😃😀

You're right, in some regards what Trump is doing is far worse than what's happening in Nigeria,

budaatum:
And so that he can be the only cockroach.

As someone from a colonized country, I find this stuff offensive.

Lol. This is satire but given the Trump administration not far from reality.

bayelsaowei:
To our Trump idol worshippers in the house:

Is birth right citizenship a disgrace?

😃😃😃

I wonder if Marco Rubio also thinks it's a disgrace being a birthright citizen himself.

IjeBos:
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Open mouth stick foot in.
This is the reason I don't engage with you and your ilk - you're too uneducated to know how uneducated you really are.



Seditious conspiracy

Did tctrills really disappear after this post?
Bwahahhaha

At least he has some shame.

Laughter is sometimes the only medicine.

bemeruca:
You cannot prove a negative. What are you on about. Goodlawd

You are doing too much emotiona rewriting here.

So what exactly is scientifically impossible?

That education can exist and people still choose corruption?
That educated people can still be greedy?
That educated people can still be tribalistic, racist, selfish, or dishonest?

That is not scientifically impossible. That is being human.

I do not worship Trump. I can criticize Trump on many things. I have criticized Trump. He was not even my choice for the 2024 presidency, it was DeSantis.

But this conversation is not about Trump. You keep dragging Trump in because you want to avoid the internal failures being discussed. Can you go a minute without deflecting to Trump?

What do you mean by white community, whatever your explanation of that is, I have multiple times. From LGBT, to Karens.

Ther is a difference between saying history matters and saying history removes responsibility.

There is a difference between saying colonialism had effects and saying African leaders, culture, corruption, tribalism, greed, and bad governance are not major reasons for failure today.

Your problem is not that I deny every factor you mention.

Your problem is that I refuse to let you use those factors as excuses to avoid the failures inside our own societies.

Deepsite, read this one. The language model he's using uses the same rhetorical device like 2 or 3 times just in this post.
The same rhetorical device used in most of his AI posts.

I am so lost at to what is going in the US and what the US is doing.
What legal framework are we using to invade the countries?

He said the US will drive out "foreign encroachment".
Huh?
He must have meant "[other] foreign encroachment".

DeepSight:
Perhaps that explains it.
I must confess I have noticed some strangeness in some of his posts, like it was a different person

Definitely AI.

I won't give it away but go over some of the posts and you can tell the structure of the arguments of the AI are similar and remarkably different than the posts he doesn't use AI to write.
Also, the grammar is noticeable cleaner, more complex and without a lot of errors.

DeepSight:
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This is scientifically impossible. It is also a signal of lack of intelligence that you can claim this.


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Name one thing you have criticized Trump over. A serious thing.
.

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Name one criticism you have ever levelled at any white communities/ societies.


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Retract this hideous lie immediately. You have been here shouting about how these things do not matter or even do not exist. You have laughed off history, you have played down the relevance of education, you have denied every allegation of the existence of any racism at all, you have denied that colonialism has had any role to play.

Stop trying to change the script, this is hideous dishonesty.

AI wrote the post (the argument style is similar in all the posts AI writes for him), it sounded good(educated) to him but he didn't fully understand it.
AI is a good tool, but you can't let it do the work for you.

Looks like the Ballroom is out again.

tctrills:
It was a demonstration that turn violent. Till date no one was charged for trying to stop the transfer of power.
These charges where only made on TV not in the court so clearly my boy you are misinformed.
But I understand you are unable to separate media sentiments with the reality of the case.

As one who claims to know it US as the back of his hand, it's funny you don't know that the Biden DOJ never prosecuted anyone for trying to overthrow the government so unless you know something the FDI doesn't, you are spewing conspiracy theories

January 6th was only an insurrection on TV not in the court house.You are the US experts but you don't know [color=#990000][/color]

Open mouth stick foot in.
This is the reason I don't engage with you and your ilk - you're too uneducated to know how uneducated you really are.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Oath Keepers extremist group founder Stewart Rhodes was sentenced Thursday to 18 years in prison for orchestrating a weekslong plot that culminated in his followers attacking the U.S. Capitol in a bid to keep President Joe Biden out of the White House after winning the 2020 election.

Rhodes, 58, is the first person convicted of seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack to receive his punishment, and his sentence is the longest handed down so far in the hundreds of Capitol riot cases.

It's another milestone for the Justice Department's sprawling Jan. 6 investigation, which has led to seditious conspiracy convictions against the top leaders of two far-right extremist groups authorities say came to Washington prepared to fight to keep President Donald Trump in power at all costs.

In a first for a Jan. 6 case, the judge agreed with the Justice Department that Rhodes' actions should be punished as "terrorism," which increases the recommended sentence under federal guidelines. That decision could foreshadow lengthy sentences down the road for other far-right extremists, including former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, who have also been convicted of the rarely used charge.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/oath-keepers-founder-sentenced-to-18-years-for-seditious-conspiracy-in-jan-6-capitol-attack

Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States , or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384#:~:text=If%20two%20or%20more%20persons,force%20to%20prevent%2C%20hinder%2C%20or

GracieX3:
DEEPSIGHT, Budaatum, cococandy, Ijebos, lordreed...


I am not religious but im starting to feel like there is something demonic possessing these MAGA cultists to support whatever corrupt nonsense Trump does. Apart from that,how can someone hate their own black skin.

This fooolishness is supernatural. Even atheist me sef dey hold rosary!!

Undiagnosed or untreated emotional/psychological problems can seem like a demonic possession.
And hating your own skin would qualify.

DeepSight:
Seriously, the phenomenon is something that thinking people have to pause and ponder on. It never fails to startle me.

I can understand a person who simply says that he likes or prefers Trump, or agrees with much of his policies. I mean, not that I see eye to eye with that, but I can understand that to the extent that we are all different. What I cannot get is the absolute worship. The fact that Trump can literally never be wrong. The fact that every word he utters is the living light and gospel truth to them.

I have had to dig up many thoughts on human nature in this regard. And this morning I was just repeating to myself for the umpteenth time that it's just a human thing. After all, billions of people call a Jewish man the creator of the world in the name of religion. Two billion people believe that every word Muhammad uttered was the truth. And many others believe every word that falls from the lips of one religious leader or the other. So perhaps it's just human nature.

Trump has attained deity status in the minds of many people and it's truly creepy. We often joke about the lengths that they would go for him but it is no joke. There are many here who would abandon their family for Trump.

And even though I don't believe in religion either, this phenomenon helps me see that if there were such a thing as the Anti Christ, it would be so very easy for him to be accepted by even Christians. So easy.

The problem is that they can't even say out loud what policies they agree with him on.
Is it no new wars, release Epstein files, corruption is bad, spending only on America?

There isn't any core motivating principles MAGAs have.
It's simply a personality cult.

tctrills:
The backup army repeating leftwing media lies.
In 2016 there were riots after Trump won no big deal but January 6th is the worst thing that ever happened in US history.

I understand you people need to make it the worse day in US history but how is it any worse than any other demonstration turned riot?
Oh I forgot, AOC said so

Riots/Protest in states around the country = Storming the seat of the US government to stop the transfer of power that has been peaceful for ~200 years and kill Senators, House Members and the Vice President.
This post. Jesus.
You sound uneducated about the US and incapable of logically reasoning.

You don't even seem to understand the basics of US culture and government.
But why would you?
Have you read or studied any of it? Have you read the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution or even just the Bill of Rights?
Everything you write here sounds like someone who sees the US through a filter of what he thinks the US should be. The bigger problem is that you can't see to grasp that.

If you were really interested in having a discussion, you'd educate yourself so you wouldn't feel the need to be always making statements not backed by reality or false equivalencies.

tctrills:
He is calling for backup. Lol

As I said, I completely understand you.
The big media noise on January 6th and the way your politicians keep reminding you has trained your brain to believe it's the worst day of your life.
But that's what Fella calls zombie.

Look at the data?
Look at the level of destruction?
Then come back and let's have this discussion

Too many people spend their lives reading and repeating Republican wingnut propaganda.

This was this thread live while the Capital was being breached.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/1848

Mostly everyone who saw it live, including me, understood the historic ramifications, that this was then first time since the US's founding, there was not a peaceful transition of power.
Given that the peaceful transition of power is a bedrock of democracy thus one of our founding principles, yes, it was/is a very very big deal.

But of course, that you read about years later, you clearly have a better understanding.
And I forgot, of course, you understand the US culture better than anyone.

DeepSight:
My people come and see another one oh.

Cococandy, Ijebos, LordReed, bayelsowei

You're giving him oxygen.
He's laundering his nonsense through you. Using you to give him relevency.

tctrills:
That one can hold on straws for Africa. Always bringing up meaningless things.
Blacks are messing up because of Trump's slush fund

This post still has me laughing.

One of the biggest stories in the US today is Trump's slush fund as it one of the most corrupt acts of any President in US History.
And not only did this guy think it was meaningless, but he thought it was meaningless because it didn't relate to what we all know is the main topic of this thread "Blacks messing up".

And to make it more hilarious, a few posts later he claims to understand the US culture better than I do but seems to not be able to open a US news site to even understand the top stories.

cococandy:
He just pardoned himself from all tax crimes forever and ever.

What an astute business man. 🤡

Very astute, he also included his fmaily.

The absolute gall of it all.

bayelsaowei:
By the time Trump finishes dismantling everything the US holds dear Nigeria will have much to learn about boosting corruption.

😃😃

What’s the difference between Tompolo Asari and MC Oluomo who the Nigerian government funds with taxpayer money and the Jan 6th convicts who Trump plans to compensate?

It’s a remarkable time to witness America led by a white grifter and felon. This stain will be difficult to remove.

And that's a problem.
How can the US speak to any country about corruption now?
Imagine Nigerian politicians unbound by any restrictions put in place the "ethitcal" boundaries of the US and western countries.
Trump's corruption is going to have deep lasting reverbarations.

tctrills:
Did you just wake from the wrong side of your bed?
What is today's tantrum about

Run along little boy.
Next time you want to run your mouth make sure you can back up the things you say.
Cut out all the emotional childish responses.

Unboundless corruption.

ha

tctrills:
You are all over the place. Just calm down and tell me what you want

Let's try it again.

tctrills:
Everyone on this thread can see that you are the most uncomfortable by my presence for reasons best known to you and you are fighting it with all you have.

He said "everyone" and "most uncomfortable" with my presence. Who are you?
Bwahaahhaah
This guy thinks he gives off "Main Character" energy.

I guess you understand what everyone thinks just like you know more about American culture than everyone else despite not being everyone and not living/lived in the US.

tctrills:
What is it that you don't understand? Everything I wrote is clear so if you have a question ask please.
We are now doing the who is the authority game right.
Oya ask your question .
You don't seem to realise that you are pointless right now.
What exactly are you driving at?

I swore I was typing in English.

IjeBos:
It was a simple question. Explain how you understand American culture better than I do.

tctrills:
Let's get into your tiny mind.
If you don't hate Trump and you believe blacks should take responsibility of their lives, it means you have never been to America.
You have a strange way of thinking

I don't do the gaslighting and emotional manipulation of my words.

You wrote this, I didn't:

tctrills:
I actually understand the American culture better than you do.

Are you saying you can't defend that now and it was just an emotional childish retort? If so, just say that.
It was a simple question. Explain how you understand American culture better than I do.
You don't live in the US. I think you've tacitly admitted that.
Have you studied it? Do you have some degree in US culture?
Or did you learn about it in the 2 weeks you claim you were in the US?

The problem is that you seem to have some psychology what makes you believe you can be an authority on a topic you really have no experience in.
So, why should anything else that comes out of your moth not be as worthless as the statement, "you understand American culture better than [I] do?"

tctrills:
Oh I remember, you are the nosey one
I actually understand the American culture better than you do.
But then, let's not make the discussion about me.
You are in team blame the whites and I am in team take responsibility of your life.
Let's return to that discussion

So, I think we've established you aren't American.
You should do a deep dive why that is so hard for you to admit.
May give you some much needed perspective on some of the other things you've written here.

And you are qualified to have that discussion because you understand American culture better than I do?
Is that what you are saying?
Either way, why don't you establish how you understand American culture better than I do.

tctrills:
Lol
First you assume you are the only one who has lived in the US.
Secondly, the world has become a global village. You don't need to live in London to learn about Buckingham Palace. But then, you assume too many things

What I read - You don't live in the US.

The problem is clearly you don't want to admit that.
Because even you know putting a facade over that is central to u spending hours arguing against a culture you barely understand.