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LordReed:
Well he says he is being logical let's hope the logic continues to take hold.

Ha.

louqas:
I swear to God that person is a BIG FAT LIAR.

See as the Op just talk about 4.5m like say na 45k
4.5m wey many hardworking folks don't even make in a year naim this one wan use buy car engine, engine only o.
If you allow opposition noise to make you unnecessarily hate a government that's doing it's best to uplift you means you be proper compound Fool

It's ok if it's not in your price range. But 4.5m for a new engine would be a good price/low end if it was legit.

bemeruca:
😂😂😂 Ban AI

James Comey on his first night out on bail😬 pic.twitter.com/qj8wprNNPg

— DFF (@DumbFxckFinder) April 28, 2026

Who would have thunk... another ho-mo-ero.tic post about a white man.
Seems that's what's always on your mind.

bemeruca:
When is you white boyfriend returning?

Imagine there was a guy you knew who at least once a day lied about someone having a "white boyfriend". They repeated over and over again.
Would you think that person was Ok and straight?
Since you pretend you live in the US you can pretend people will tolerate you coming out the closet as well.

Food for thought.

I'm sure all the MAGA here were enraged about the UK indicting people for social media posts.

Damn, the DOJ is going to be busy.

Waiting for the indictment of the maker of this shirt for threatening to kill Biden.
And for Amazon for the same.
I'm sure it'll be coming anytime now.

DeepSight:
But the extract you provided (transcript of what he said) is self explanatory. He said "and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally."

Beyond that he also repeatedly said that there were some very bad people there as well.

I just happened to see much of the media singling out the words "very fine people on both sides." Seemed sort of manipulative to me.

But I think I have been clear enough that regardless, I dont agree with his words, regardless of what was cut out by much of the media.
I think I have said this almost seven times now in answer to you, so I dont know how much more I can make it clear that I align with your views.

There was no-one else at the rally besides Neo-azis and White Nationalist.
It was a Neo-Nazi and White Nationalist rally/march.

That's why the media was confused as what he was trying to say.

Imagine there is a march for people who think Predo-fyles are ok.
So the only people who show up are people who think Predo-fyles are ok.
And people who don't think Predo-fyles are ok counter-protest.

Trump says there were some very fine people on both sides.
And then says, I'm not referring to the NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) people , they should be condemned.
Would that make sense?

What should the media report?

DeepSight:
Indeed. Agreed.

Still the media should not have clipped the sentence they way they did. You know, when you hide something you look shifty already.

I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Here are more of the remarks.
Even the reporter is trying to help him because they seem incredulous at what he was saying.
This is a video on the protests. Maybe you can point out the very fine people with the tiki torches who were protesting the night before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F2kPRW6ZuA

Trump: "Excuse me. If you take a look at some of the groups, and you see -- and you’d know it if you were honest reporters, which in many cases you’re not -- but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.

"So this week it’s Robert E. Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson is coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week? And is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop?

"But they were there to protest -- excuse me, if you take a look, the night before they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. Infrastructure question. Go ahead."
....
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.

"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
...

Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"

Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."

Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"

Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."

Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down -- excuse me, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?"

Reporter: "I do love Thomas Jefferson."

Trump: "Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue?

"So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

"Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."

Reporter: "Sir, I just didn’t understand what you were saying. You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly? I just don’t understand what you were saying."

Trump: "No, no. There were people in that rally -- and I looked the night before -- if you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people -- neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them.

"But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest, and very legally protest -- because, I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit. So I only tell you this: There are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country -- a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country.

Janeustine1:
I bought this brand new engine in Abuja for 4.5m for my Prado instead of Belgium engine . Is it worth the price ?

Are you asking is 4.5M a good price for an engine that may or may not work?

What is the warranty on it?
I wouldn't buy that engine unless it had a warranty on it and I fully trusted who built/refurbed/sold it to honor that warranty and everything that comes with it.
Too much to go wrong with it.

DeepSight:
No I didnt buy into any propaganda, and rest assured I agree with you.

But, do you see what I am saying?
Whoever is making this argument is trying to argue that outside of the KKK and Neo Nazis it was a fine rally full of fine Americans.
But, without the KKK, Neo Nazis and their sympathizers, there would be no rally because there would have been no people there.

They are attempting to normalize/sane wash the rally and Trump's support of the White Nationalists who showed up there.

cococandy:
So asking a question not even directed to him about the Epstein files is now considered a promotion of violence against the President?

You would think that he would demand justice for all the little girls and he would do whatever it takes to get all those involved.

Only someone guilty would behave this way. We are Still missing about 2.5 million files….. why is the party of family values not upset about this?

Somehow, the question brought up about Epstein files is proof they need a new ballroom. Y’all MAGAts don’t see how ridiculous this is?

Really? 🤦🏽‍♀️

wtf?

DeepSight:
I concur.
I did feel blindsided though, by not seeing or hearing of the full quote for a long time.

You see, I think deliberately cutting that sentence short was wrong especially because it gives his base ammo to cite it as an instance for him being deliberately sabotaged.

You need have no doubt - I am clear in my mind that the fellow is a white supremacist racist and I dont agree with his statement, shortened or not.

I think you bought in to the Republican Propaganda on that sentence trying to rewrite history.
Do a deep dive into what happened that summer.

This was the night before the "very fine people on both sides" rally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN7vm9mIPBs

And here is a documentary on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I&t=36s

Everyone knew what this was.
Just because they didn't have neo Nazi bandanas or white hoods didn't change who came out to protest that day.

DeepSight:
I concur. Well said.

Let me just emphasize yet again that I dont agree that there were fine people on both sides.

I only note that that statement made by Trump was almost universally quoted without completing his sentence.

It was universally quoted that way because leaving out the rest of the sentence didn't matter.
Everyone understood it to be a white nationalist protest.
And those protesting were protesting in support of White Nationalism.

Let's rephrase what he was saying.
"There were very fine people on both sides, [even on the side of those who showed up to protest in support of "White Nationalism]. I'm not just talking about the KKK and Neo Nazis."

Does that give his statement more context?
No, again everyone understood it was a White Nationalist protest.
It was all over the national media that it was a White Nationalist rally and counter demonstrators organized because of it.
Everyone knew it may be violent and that is was a White Nationalist rally, so the city tried to prevent the rally from even happening.
But a federal judge blocked the city from doing so and let it go on on First Amendment grounds.

The idea that "good people" just moseyed along to this rally is fantasy.
Whomever was there, knew they were at a White Supremacy rally.
So, it wasn't matter of a rally you just heard about happening in the town square and you wanted to check it out.
Everyone in that city knew, everyone in the counrty knew it was a White Nationalist thing long beore the rally heppened.
Trump knew it was a white nationalist rally.
Does that give more context to Trump's remarks and why what was left out didn't matter?

Apologies, the more I think about the more I remember it.

Deepsight, you're at a rally and it's filled with these people. Are you staying?

And why would any US President instead of roundly condemning the rally, equivocate and rely on false equivalencies?
Is the side fighting White Supremacy equal to the side fighting for White Supremacy?

It was a dog whistle plain and simple.
Just like his "stand back and stand by" comment to the Proud Boys. Just like pardoning the Jan 6ers.

DeepSight:
Let me add, on an academic note that there is the argument that there were other issues at play in the American Civil War beyond slavery alone, even if that was clearly the major and overriding difference.

Were there other issues in play with Hitler?

DeepSight:
Just to be clear, I dont subscribe to the view that there were fine people on both sides. I only note that Trump was widely quoted out of full context deliberately. Perhaps he said what he said in a bid to appease both sides, but I certainly do not personally agree with it.

This was what the stated goal of the Unite the Right Rally by the organizer
I understand what you are saying.
I am saying even if he did leave out the KKK and White Nationalists there were not fine people on both sides.
Because the intent of the rally was to foster white nationalist ideology and those who chose to show up understood what they were there for.

Shaping up to be a brutal midterm
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/04/28/opinion/focus-group-trump-voters-disappointed.html?unlocked_article_code=1.eVA.S3qj.yCkPfgt92HGO&smid=url-share

Eighty percent of Republicans approve of President Trump’s performance, but his national standing has dipped, especially among independents.

That leaves several people who voted for Mr. Trump but who may not feel good about the direction of the country. For Opinion’s latest focus group, conducted earlier this month, we spoke with voters like this: people who cast their ballots for Mr. Trump and said they were disappointed with his second term. A few said they even regretted their votes.

Some participants had been hopeful in 2024, but many of them felt that Mr. Trump was the “lesser of two evils” and the alternative might have been not voting at all: social conservatives, antiwar Republicans, people with hopes about prices and taxes coming down or deep dissatisfaction with Democratic policies. Their frustration mostly came in three categories: the implementation of Mr. Trump’s immigration policies, the Iran war and the continued high cost of living. People had praise for what Mr. Trump had done with the border, on crime and the idea of DOGE, but many of these voters are unhappy, some depressed and upset, with the direction of the country.

How do you talk about a situation you’re disappointed about or even a decision you regret, though, especially with people you know might disagree? It can be difficult.

Some participants said they were from families or communities where most people agreed with them, even if quietly. Others felt frustrated or embarrassed because they were from families where their Democratic relatives had predicted what would happen, or they had Trump-supporting friends or family members who did not want to hear their critiques. Echoing the sentiments of several people, one participant said, “There’s almost no space to even discuss.”

cococandy:
Their hypocrisy is out of this universe

Out of the universe.
I'm glad he called her out.
Insane that she thinks she could be the messenger for this esp. after all the grotesque things he's said.
Her guy literally called for the genocide of a civilization.

raumdeuter:
This was before race hustlers decided promoting racism is quite profitable, And victimhood sells

Yes, in 2015 we were in a post racial country except for them race hustler promoting racism.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/27/university-mississippi-student-noose-statue-james-meredith

Just a whole piece of trash.

raumdeuter:
This was before race hustlers decided promoting racism is quite profitable, And victimhood sells

It was just the "race hustles promoting racism" in 2015
What else happened in 2015: Charleston Church Shooting

The Charleston Church Shooting: Six Years Later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqwCeA_txLg

raumdeuter:
This was before race hustlers decided promoting racism is quite profitable, And victimhood sells

"Before race hustlers decided promoting racism is quite profitable"

That tennis video happened in 2015.
What else happened in 2015?
Fn'ing House N*

Oklahoma Fraternity Shut Down After Racist Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7gffhZVYss

bemeruca:
Ijebos, what do you think about this guy and do you like the direction the UK is going?

A quick reminder of what Keir Starmer used to say about Prime Ministers who mislead Parliament.

We need the truth. pic.twitter.com/2egDyl79uB

— Kemi Badenoch (@KemiBadenoch) April 27, 2026

Guy who pretends to be American, who lives in the American Politics thread posting articles about Europe.
Yup, sounds like MAGA.

So, the pretend country you pretend sent your children and baby momma to because America isn't a place to raise children is going to shit according to you.
Good to know.

You should try to write better make believe.

Jimmy Kimmel on Melania Trump calling for him to be fired.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zust6eID9mk

DeepSight:
Spot on. I hope the monstrosity will be demolished by the next administration. Because it's gonna wildly distort the symmetry of that building.

I'm not sure it's getting built.
The last court ruling shutting the construction down was legally sound.
And if he can't win there, he will have to go to Congress.
And it's going to be a hard decision for Republicans with tough reelections to vote yes.
Going to be a "let them eat cake" moment with everything else going on.

raumdeuter:
The King of UK is coming to kiss Trumps asss very soon like Keir Starmer, Rutte and every f these world leaders have done

They now know that US have a real president that cannot be taken for a ride, A president who is unashamedly American and will put America first

Yes, cuz every man knows, when a woman comes over, tells you how handsome you are, holds your hand while you watch a movie, leaves right after the movie and then you buy her a car the next day, you were really the one who got over on her.

cococandy:
They’re extremely stupid for this to even need explaining to them. Talking about some “tax payers are not funding it”. And so freaking what?

Old men acting like their brains are out on loan and they’re operating on fumes.

Operating on fumes.
It should make sense to everyone that we don't want temporary occupants of the White House of either party in mad rages destroying history by destroying federal property like he has already done with the East Wing.

Raumdeuter: US is respected again under Trump
German Chancellor Merz , Mertz: US is being humiliated by Iran. (Has a big US ally like Germany talked this way about the US under any other President?)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/germany-s-merz-says-iran-is-humiliating-us-as-talks-stall/ar-AA21PzkD

nateevs:
It's both; depending on what part of the charade you are looking at.


They will just have you believe it is incompetence without saying it, because it's better to be seen as incompetent than treasonous.

It does seem very suspect that the first Correspondents Dinner Trump goes to (didn't go in his previous term), there is less than adequate security, there is an attempted shooting and then he uses it to push a ballroom, something he's been trying to push forever.

The problem is with the mendaciousness of this administration it is easy to believe anything.
And, I wouldn't put anything past them.
But, that is a problem in itself.
So, I try to find a balance and temper my disbelief with proven facts so I'm not turning into the conspiracy nuts of MAGA

Thinking about this further.

Someone tell me the difference between this or any shooters world view on the use of violence and the US's view on the use of violence under Trump?
Hasn't Trump been arguing that might makes right?
That the US can take Veneuzelaian oil or take Greenland or Canada, not because of any moral right but because, they can because they have the strongest military?
Isn't that what Raumdeuter, Bemeruca and their likes have been arguing?

Trump has been vehemently pushing this view of Might being right, that countries/people are only limited by what they can take without anyone being able to stop them.
Is it a surprise that people are emulating those values?


So what is different in the thinking of the Tr
When you remove morals/legality from your arguments what's left?

nateevs:
Thank you o!

I asked earlier the relevance of the ballroom at this particular moment. Is he going to belt himself permanently to a chair in there and never go out?

Yup.
Is every rally of his going to be held there?
Every speech he makes?

What they usually say isn't meant to be discussed or to be rationally thought through, so not meant for people who do either.
It's meant for their mindless minions.