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[quote author=bemeruca post=131326617]Sounds like you can't do anything about it.

See, I will post more.

After footage of masked Muslims in Middlesbrough are circulated, protesters are now heading towards the Mosque. pic.twitter.com/8Xs47jMq1E

— Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧 (@TRobinsonNewEra) August 4, 2024

, I can't do anything that you lie about living in the US either.
Or, that you're a groupie fanboy who is emotionally invested in being seen as "American".

Hopefully, you'll find a way to love who you are without pretending you're someone else.

EnlightenedUFO:
And these polls have Harris leading 1 or 1.5 point nationally.
But what these pollsters fail to include are Republican voters who are cutting off from the rapist.
It's going to be a blowout in November.

Lol

There are still some inflection points.
Her VP candidate pick
and the Convention which Dems usually do a good job producing.

So, the polls will look different by the end of the month esp. when the post Summer focusing begins.

Konkoja:
What's even the point of debating that charlatan? He never abide any rules anyway. He believe rules should not apply to him. He didn't take part in Republican debates and it's somehow normalised for him.

I know. It's tough. He lies and there is no reign him in or fact check him as he lies a mile a minute.
And the US Media has normalized him here as in every other topic.
But, I also believe it's important for Presidential Candidates to debate.

bemeruca:
so?

I guess being a groupie is so..

EnlightenedUFO:
hey basilico loco, your misinformation is dead on arrival.

I read that ABC would host the debate regardless. So if Trump doesn't show up, Kamala will just get the time.
I hope that's accurate.

EnlightenedUFO:


My belle oo

They have nothing to do here anymore. They just waiting for rapist trump to either lose or die so they can be free from Indentured servitude though the felon and rapist trump has nothing to give them in any form.

Lol.
I mean this is prime time in US politics.
The last month or 2 in terms of US politics, historic and nuts.
Incumbent renominated President deciding he won't run again.
Maybe a brokered convention
Ex president almost getting assassinated
First Black Female VP who may be the First Female President.
US Supreme Court deciding Trump is a king and making sure he won't be on trial during his run.
A Fed court judge dropping his case the day before Trump's convention.
2 VP candidates. One saying calling women without children catwoman.
And a neck and neck race.

And this is still August.
If you can't get excited about US politics now.. when then?

Amujale:
You're spot on and as such, i have to agree with you in all your determinations above.

Thanks for taking the time to break it down meticulously.

Aha! Now that's cleared up, lets get to working on supporting the soon to be US president, the first of it's kind, Kamala is a go-getter, and you can tell she's locked-in and ready to make history.

Respect.

bemeruca:
and?

It's a forum. This thread is dedicated to American Politics. You can easily create other threads
We are in the midst of the actual election. With a lot of news about that.
But instead you are here posting about shit that's happening in the UK.
If you actually wanted to have a real discussion about Muslims in UK with people who care about that you would start a new thread about it.
Instead you repeatedly post that stuff here? Why?
You should ask yourself why you feel the need to be seen in this thread. Why you feel the need to associate yourself with America. To discuss things that don't relate to America or American Politics. You have 0 connection to the US outside of wanting to discuss US politics, yet here you are posting non American Politics related "news".

Truth is you're a fuxing groupie. Wanting to associate with Americans. Pretending you live in America. That's sad groupie shit.

bemeruca:
And the people are forced to pay

American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency!

Obrigardo:
You are seriously dumb bro. Isn't that an headline penned by an editorial board or the reporter? Stop this trash fool. Makes you look dumb to be racist as fûck.

Everytime he posts that I'm embarrassed for him. And that he posts it as if he's made some point, it's even more embarrassing.

bemeruca:
you said it is not a rare condition. tell me why i should take your words over the one from the NHS?

Quote where I said this.
I think ur confused.

bemeruca:
I was wrong for what? lol are you stupid? I just said she is a woman because I was wrong based on initial information. My take has changed so what point are you making? I did not smear her you fool, I talked about the Olympic authorities allowing a man to box a woman.

Initial information? To my understanding she's been a woman her whole life. So the initial information was that she was a woman. Again, you didn't do your research.

bemeruca:
I did not smear her you fool, I talked about the Olympic authorities allowing a man to box a woman.

When did the Olympic authorities allow a man to box a woman? She is a woman boxing a woman. Again you didn't do your research.

bemeruca:
its not a rare condition?
what research did you do on this? even the medical field that pushes this nonsense on us says it is a rare condition but you on the other hand have written papers and research on this so let me pretend to believe you.
It is only you that understand things yet you come off as stupid and unable to comprehend basic stuff here with almost everyone you have argued with

I'm not sure what you are arguing here. It's always hard to follow your brain dead logic. You leap around, say random things and think you've made a point worthy of a prize.
At least you are using the right word rare instead of rear now.

AmazonTopaz:
What part of Jewish vote will offset any Muslim vote in Michigan do you not understand? They will win Michigan with or without Muslim vote because the Jews and like minded moderates including Blacks make a very significant percent of the state than the Muslims.

Are you assuming the Jewish population would support the Dem Party more than they did in 2020? If the Jewish support is the same as 2020 the difference is the Muslim Support. In a close election, that matters. But not only that, the Youth vote is increasingly aligned with what is happening in the Middle East.

More than 100,000 Michiganders, 13% of Democratic voters, voted “uncommitted” in the state’s February 27 primary. Michigan is home to the largest Arab American population in the nation. By voting “uncommitted,” they’re signaling to Biden that he risks losing the Arab American vote in the key battleground state. Biden still has a pathway to victory without Michigan, but it's much harder.
..
Former President Donald Trump won Michigan in 2016 by less than 11,000 votes. Biden won by about[b] 120,000 [/b]votes in 2020. There are an estimated 200,000 to 300,000 Arab Americans in the state, although not all are eligible to vote.
https://www.voanews.com/a/will-angry-arab-american-voters-swing-michigan-away-from-biden-/7519681.html

100,000 people came out to vote uncommitted in Michigan during this years primary. That in itself is a big deal for a primary. Biden won it by 120,000.

AmazonTopaz:
The Democrats as are the Republicans will continue to support the State of Israel because an overwhelming majority of Americans are pro-Israel. Noise making on Twitter doesn't change it. As long as the Democrats continue to appear pro-Israel like Biden has with his center-left position on the issue they will win the moderate vote and the independent or moderate voters are what win elections. If supporting Israel will cost Democrats support from leftists they will make up for it with moderates. It is about the numbers.

Nothing is changing America's support for Israel, with Trump in power Gaza will be nuked if Netanyahu remains in charge so there is still a slight difference on the issue among the parties.

US will continue to support Israel but what that support looks like will be different. I think it will revert closer to how Obama dealt with it rather than how Biden has dealt with it. Like when Obama chose not to veto the 2016 UN Israel anti settlement resolution which later passed.

The coalition that won Obama the election was an increase in young voter turnout. Young voters want to see a shift a balanced Israel policy. I think Harris is going to follow that model.

bemeruca:
Yeah, I forgot to update, she is a woman and she should compete with other women.

this other part is stupid. She should be mocked. you as well.

we don't live our lives by anomaly. these are rear disability
What is DSDs?
Differences in sex development is a set of rare conditions involving genes, hormones, and reproductive organs that can cause the sexual development of a person to be different than others, according to the NHS.

to further help your condition.
there is a reason we have something like DSD, it is to explain a condition. Does your mother have DSD? The answer is no right? So what is she? A man or a woman? are you gonna tell me you are not a biologist so you cannot tell if your mom is a woman or not?

we have so many disabilities, some of which are freakish, but they all have categories. a human with 4 hands is still a human with a disability and it is a rear one. so saying you don't know what a human is because one human has 4 legs is stupid.

1.) It's rare not rear. You've used it 2x incorrectly so it's not a typo.

2.) As to your Update. Let me help you. You were wrong in smearing someone because you reposted misinformation from one of your right ring hate merchants you didn't take the time to research yourself. Something you do often.

3.) You seem to not understand what the US Supreme Court does. This is precisely the kind of issues the Supreme court would address. A novel dispute about a definition where the Court is supposed to hear arguments look at the law and decide. Kind of what she said in the hearing. Kind of like a dispute about an Olympic gymnast being disqualified because the team says she doesn’t meet the requirements of a woman to compete because she she has some rear rare anomaly. Kind of the reason she would not give a cavalier definition.

Hope these were helpful.

bemeruca:
Meanwhile women are being robbed by men who failed in their right category.

I don't understand why they are not boycotting this nonsense.

I've been following this story as it entered US politics. Pretty disgraceful and indicative what is going on in US Right Wing Politics.

Two thoughts.
1.) A lot of people on the Right commented, criticized and judged without actually knowing any of the facts. And in doing so tried to destroy a Women's life who didn't do anything wrong. I'm sure few will apologize and admit they were wrong. They trade in this manufactured rage.

2.) It also reminded me of Ketanji Brown's hearing and how she was mocked for saying she was not a Biologist when asked "to provide a definition of the word woman". This is the precise reason. She understood there may be complexity she didn't understand and since she is not an expert in the field, deferred. To the Right Wing everything is easy and "common sense", except it's not. And this boxer is case and point.

AmazonTopaz:
A smart Democrat will make the Jews happy and let the Muslims cry. The Jews have been reliably voting Democratic for decades just like Black people.
The Muslims were not even happy with the party because of the LGBTQ and abortion stuff alongside their support for banning certain books.

The only reason why they vote for Democrats is because they are receptive to Immigrants and Republicans hate them. Bush got the Muslim vote back in the day. They have more in common with Republicans in terms of ideological positions but some don't vote Republicans because they are irrationally Islamophobic.

Even if we were talking strictly election politics, not necessarily true. The Dems may need MI to win, and there are enough Muslims in Michigan to swing that state in a close election. So, if they are planning a path without MI then you have a point.

But, that's not why me or a large percentage of people vote Dem. We vote Dem because Dems do the right thing and try to speak with a moral clarity. And what is happening in the Middle East is not the right thing. What is going on looks too much like an apartheid state with one group of people giving a permanent underclass status. So, the unequivocal support of ISrael, no matter what they do, would cost Dems more than just the Palestinian vote in the end.

The whole headline is wild and gives cover to Trump.
They don't report that Trump backed out of a scheduled debate, yet are reporting a made up story that he and Harris agreed to debate.

Below should have been a better headline.
They modified it slightly, but I may cancel my subscription over this.

What is this headline by the NY times?
They(and other news media) still continue to get played by Trump because they think being fair and balanced is reporting what each side says as fact.
The problem is that Trump is a liar and has been for a while.

Trump Agreed to do a "debate" with Fox News. He did not negotiate with Harris and Harris did not agree.
He basically made up a debate and the NY times just added legitimacy to it.

Been seeing this type of thing from the NY times for a while now.
The US News media is failing in the era of Trump.

Dicoomoba:
Bro everything you listed above is affecting USA 🇺🇸 than my country Nigeria …

I'm sure it is. <sarcasm>
That you think what is currently going on in Nigeria is at all similar to the US is somewhat delusional (no disrespect meant).

Dicoomoba:
Bro I don’t fight you and Thanks for your cares on gender based matters, in short you support LGBT party to continue destroying the worlds but as for me I go against it ooo

I assume you live in Nigeria. What is troubling you the most, high food costs, high gas costs, lack of jobs, insecurity or LGBT people?
Your focus seems very weird to me.

LordAdam16:
You've already accepted that you were wrong when you implied that all African Americans consider her to be an African American.

I stick to the topic, call out your BS, and avoid the rest of your st*pid nonsense.
You're an id**t!

So this is the latest roundup of your f**lishness.

Explain how 12 - 10 = 2?
Explain how 12 - 10 is not 5 is right wing propaganda
Show that RMG Research is "Republicans favorite pollster"?
You admitted you were talking out of your ass by speaking for the entire African American community in the US that everyone accepts that Harris is an African American.

BAST**D!

-Lord

LordDumfuq nuggets of wisdom

-Dems are forcing Republican pollster Scott Rasmussen to say Harris is up by 5 points in the polls to keep Republicans from voting to help Dems… derp derp derp.

-A poll said something different today than a different poll said yesterday.. Explain it.. Derp Derp Derp

LordAdam16:
You've already accepted that you were wrong when you implied that all African Americans consider her to be an African American.

I stick to the topic, call out your BS, and avoid the rest of your st*pid nonsense.
You're an id**t!

So this is the latest roundup of your f**lishness.

Explain how 12 - 10 = 2?
Explain how 12 - 10 is not 5 is right wing propaganda
Show that RMG Research is "Republicans favorite pollster"?
You admitted you were talking out of your ass by speaking for the entire African American community in the US that everyone accepts that Harris is an African American.

BAST**D!

-Lord

You are really insecure aren't you.
You were made a fool with these lies/spam in the EPL thread. You literally ran away when you were asked to prove your point.
Don't let me embarrass you some more.
Some more of your quality logic: "I won't answer your question in this EPL thread where we can talk about anything because I won't litter it, but I will litter it with me spamming the same thing. derp derp derp. -Lord dumFuq"

LordAdam16:
You'll have to go to the US Politics thread and follow the conversations we had on the topic.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/4261#131112144

Ask the same question on that thread if you wish and I'd answer you.
I'm not going to let him litter this thread with his nonsense. He'll feel inclined to do the same elsewhere.
On this thread, I'll persistently respond to anything related to him with prepared, canned responses.

-Lord

The lying dishonest Lord Dumfuq.
MAGA is weird
And Nigerians who live in Nigeria, who burn their data to support MAGA are weirder.

reccy:
At the italics,


That's not true. Trust me. If you care to know, I'm for Harris and I kinda agree to some of the democratic tenets even though I don't stay in the State.

And your second paragraph,

Giving that both of you are on different sides of the divide, statement like that is expected. No qualms.

At the bolded,
You're right. I kinda agree with most of your takes and like I said, he occasionally misyarn but that does not take the fact that he is good with fact and figures?

Cheer!!!

That's good to hear. You know given all the corruption, tribalism and lack of accountability in Naij, I'd assume more people would be open to the Dems message and someone like Trump would be too familiar a candidate and anathema. You know I still don't have a clear understanding why most Nigerians on this board/thread support Trump, well outside of my assumption of Religion.

LordAdam16:
Good you amended your earlier statement.
All Trump wants is that 5%+ to question Kamala's authenticity.
He needs to keep some of the Black voters he had painstakingly gained since 2020.
This is now a race of razor-thin margins.

-Lord

This is mostly blather.
Kamala Harris is Black American.
There is no one who is going to vote for Trump that would have voted for her because of this issue. What this issue will do is remind black people of how racist Trump is.
You wouldn't have a clue about any part of US culture. Because you understand the US through your phone with a filter of right wing propaganda.
You should stick to getting your facts right instead of pretending to be an expert on US blackness.

What is hilarious, you are trying to export the tribalism that makes Nigeria as fuxed up as it is to the US in support of a Racist who thinks you are shit and the country you live in is a shithole.

Nigerian MAGA support is a mental disease.

LordAdam16:
Don Lemon disagrees.

Remember that time that Don Lemon argued Kamala isn't African American? pic.twitter.com/JfMDBeeJGf

— Tim Young (@TimRunsHisMouth) August 2, 2024

We have receipts.

-Lord

Again.
1.) She is African American as defined by the US
The US Census defines African American

Black or African American – A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa.

2.)Don Lemon is making an argument strictly delineating based on is she a descendent of slaves or descendent from someone coming out of Jim crow.
It's a long debate and I'm not debating that point with you.
I will amend my statement and say 95% plus of African Americans will say she is African American.
Don Lemon and your argument means someone like Biggie Smalls, Malcolm X, Colin Powell and Kerry Washington wouldn't be considered African American.
It's stupid

What's the difference between you and Trump trying to tell Black people in the US how they should identify.

AmazonTopaz:
He said what any sane person will say about the protest. His stance on the conflict is the normal dem position.
There is now way you win Pennsylvania and lose Michigan that hasn't happened since 1988. The polls show her doing better in Michigan than Pennsylvania (I don't trust polls) but then the Arab population in Michigan is insignificant to do any damage. She needs Black support and White support to win there and she will.

I think he is somewhat to the right of where I think the Dem. party wants to be on this. He's closer to Biden's position than what I think Kamala would be.
Kamala will be on top of the ticket, so to me it doesn't matter much, but I think the Muslim population in Michigan is ready to take a burn it all down stance. (and I know I'm overgeneralizing, but this is from the interviews of Michigan Muslim voters I've heard).
Will it matter? I don't know. I think as the election get closer and people really have to decide to actively make a choice that will put Trump back in power, attitudes may change.

ObaIgwe1:
In swing states, even the small Arab numbers matter.

I would have suggested Pete Buttigieg; guy is smooth communicator and will take any GOP to the cleaners in any subject debate... But for his orientation, I doubt America is truly ready for it. So while Kamala has to overcome those who are still biased against her race and gender, it will be an overload for her to also have to deal with homophobia.

In my estimate. Shapiro still seem to be the wiser pick, Harris strong empathy for innocent Palestinian loses might help soften those Arabs' stand.

Yeah. Buttigeg would have been a good choice, outside of what you mentioned and not sure he offers any electoral help.
The Palestinians in Michigan is the problem with Shapiro. Harris does have empathy but still part of the Biden administration. And the way their community sounds, they were willing to burn it all down and go with Trump to make a point. So, she is on that edge with their support. But, I'll trust that they polled enough to see any potential issues in MI.

LordAdam16:
Is her father not black?

She is not African American as it is narrowly defined in America; that much is clear.
-Lord

Narrowly defined by who?
You don't live in the US. And so you don't get a say.
You have 0 idea what you are talking about.
She is African American as defined by African Americans in the US.

Shut the Fuq up.

LordAdam16:
There are lots of positive news for both sides that Reds and Blues on this thread do not post.

If he had not posted that Rittenhouse earlier comment, I would not have shared the update.

-Lord

Red and Blue?
Did you register to Vote?
Wtf.

reccy:


Normally, the guy nah my boss. I like his position on matters. Always objective and logical. That doesn't take away the possibility of misyarn sometimes...

Una argument get as e be and sometimes, I sense that you guys deliberately want to choke each other to death and claim victor.

what you guys argue about is almost the same thing with little bit misconception but none wants to accept he is wrong!!!


It's that bad!!!

I know he's your boy but you're both siding. He lies when he's wrong. Call a spade a spade.

A lot of his positions/conspiracies if you look closely enough are based on lies, misconceptions, or incorrect facts. And those incorrect facts are the crux of his conspiracy.

I mean you can't argue a poll is created by Dems to prevent people from voting. But then be Wrong or not Understand that that poll was created by a Republican leaning pollster, a famous one at that. It kills your whole point, No?

LordAdam16:
Why are you scared of proving your statement?

You have had ample time to:
Show how RMG Research is "Republicans Favorite Pollster".

No one forced you to make that statement.

-Lord

I'll be collecting these LordDumfuq nuggets of wisdom

-Dems are forcing Republican pollster Scott Rasmussen to say Harris is up by 5 points in the polls to keep Republicans from voting to help Dems… derp derp derp. -Lord

-A poll said something different today than a different poll said yesterday.. Explain it.. Derp Derp Derp -Lord

Kamala Harris is the official Nominee.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/02/kamala-harris-wins-democratic-nomination-00172481