Amujale: Since, you continue to claim that she is African American, then, why does she identify as being an East Indian descendant.
You sound like you've been deeply sheltered in your life and/or have never met anyone with a diverse background. That's why you can't see why your question is ridiculous on its face.
I've tried to be more than patient with your insults because there seems to be something off with you based on how you write. But, it's enough, cut it out.
You act like any of this is new. Systems thrive when most participants excel. Folks who are falling behind in a system would turn to whomever promises to right the ship or correct its course.
On the right, that is a populist like Trump who wants to deport every illegal immigrant. On the left, it'll be a progressive like Bernie who wants to confiscate the wealth of anyone who earns more than 400K.
This is not the first time this is happening. When King George raised taxes to unsustainable levels, the American colonies stumbled on the bright idea "no taxation without representation". That laid the foundation for the United States and the modern form of democracy you champion. And we're near the same levels where the government levy taxes, the unelected bureaucrats do whatever they want like the Monarchy, and there's no way for the hoi polloi to force a change in direction.
You don't have to be a genius to realize this is unsustainable and that Trump's populism is a natural reaction to this rehashed set of circumstances.
You want people who have been coal or factory workers for years and have lost their jobs to outsourcing to just accept it. Border communities should just accept millions of illegal immigrants streaming across the border when inflation is raging, there is a housing crisis, and infrastructure is failing. Espousing that no one, literally no one has a legitimate reason to sign up for Trump's populism is the kind of haughty elitism that drives even more dislike for the privileged, coastal professionals and their "civil servant" enablers. You are essentially waving a huge banner that says, "I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR COST OF LIVING CRISIS OR YOUR LOST JOBS" Accept your condition or be labeled a racist, fascist, sexist, Islamophobe, deplorable. That is not a winning argument. But winning hearts and minds doesn't matter anyway because you've got the unelected bureaucrats who would do whatever they like. It is just clear, unfiltered, transparent classist disdain. The vast majority of minorities and immigrants adopt this position. And then you all wonder why natives detest your guts and want to shut the doors. Like you can't connect the dots.
-Lord
Post like this. geez. It's as if you're speaking about some made up country. It's a total lack of understanding of the US.
1.) Do you even know what the top tax rate looked like historically? 2.) Who are these unelected bureaucrats that can do whatever they want
A40: A more intelligent question you should be asking is why and how the man was able to get there in the first place. How did an elevated place around where the ex President was speaking just so happened to be unmanned
Ask yourself why the SS did not supply Trump with more personnel as previously requested
Think and stop sounding like leftist sheep that initially thought the attack was staged. I'm sure you're one of those that thought this. Don't lie
The day the attempt was made secret service had already ramped up his detail because of another threat. The story of him asking for more protection and not getting it is false.
reccy: ijebosb, come and explain how this becomes 5 point swing!
my maths is not mathsing.....
So, this is what the 2020 chart looked like on 538. It's a poll of all the polls or in this case a char of all the polls. I generally check it daily. When I look at it I don't care about the differentials, I look at what the raw numbers are to help find outliers in the polls or some dramatic shift in support.
reccy: ijebosb, come and explain how this becomes 5 point swing!
my maths is not mathsing.....
You should have let him own his answer.
The polls are from differing pollsters. Comparing them is hard to do, because each pollster has to develop their own profile of the voters(methodology). And because of that, the numbers that matter are the level of support for the candidate. You would like consistent support amongst all the polls and if you are constantly getting above 51% better. Like now all the polls are showing harris with consistent 40-42 ish support.
So how did we get here.
1.) LordAdam16 believed the poll showing Harris leading was Wrong though it was the most recent poll His first argument was that the poll of Harris leading was wrong because there was an 8 point swing from a poll the day before. It's odd to compare two different polls that way. Normally you would compare a single poll taking from different days. Weird and not quite useful.
2.) He mistakenly believed the poll was taken the day after Biden dropped out because that was when it was released. I pointed out that the 1st poll was taken from the 19th -21st. So one of the reasons the poll may show a "different" result, despite the fact that it has a different methodology is that it was taken after she became the official candidate even though it asked the same question. Biden dropped out the 21st in the afternoon. While the first poll was a 3 day rolling poll that ended the day Biden dropped out so most of the responses had already been locked in. The second poll was taken the day after when the information had more time to percolate, making the poll more representative of current opinion.
3.) Correcting him got him mad. So after I corrected him, he got mad and started asking questions why the poll had an 8 point swing. Again, odd question given that 1.)2 seperate pollsters 2.) 1 was taken before and the 2nd after a huge campaign shakeup. So, being me I thought the best way was to show that polls from 2 different pollsters can swing from day to day. So I went and found such a poll. Now, as I explained, when I look at polls I look at level of support of each candidate, not difference in support between candidates. So, the swing was from 54-49 (5 point swing, which would be huge if it weren't two different pollsters). He made his argument about the numbers, I explained why I chose the poll, but even found more polls showing a swing the way he thought about it (difference in support between the two candidates). It's a silly thing. Polls change daily.
Anyhow, at this point we had gone far upfield of the point. And like most MAGA, the point is to pick something, lie about it to divert from the original point that he was wrong about the Poll of Harris leading.
Anyhow below are the old polls I chose to help explain to him that polls can change from day to day. Again, notice the two pollsters are different. Number 1 shows the numbers I used, Number 2 shows the numbers he is pretending I used. It's clear for anyone to see unless you are being dishonest. Now imagine if you were Biden's team looking through the polls. What would matter to you? To me it be trying to understand how my numbers dipped by 5 points in this poll and looking at the crosstabs and methodology to understand what happened.
I was pointing out that from one to another even on the same day the level of support can swing dramatically esp if they are differing polls. I included the screenshot below to him multiple times.
Polls should in theory all tell you the same thing, measure the same thing.
Amujale: Not really, its you claiming she's African American when you know full well that she isnt.
Leading to the fact that on her watch, it will be more of the same, the unjust killing, maiming and outright discrimination of Black America, with the provocateur general supposedly at the helm?, No, ?
She is born of a Jamaican dad and Indian mother who immigrated to the US. There is no pure African American if that is what you are thinking. Every African American is or is a descendent of someone who immigrated here or was forced here from another country.
As to the identity, a person of mixed ancestry can choose which one to identify with or both. It's simple. She can choose to identify with the culture of her Jamaican, Indian or because she was raised in American as an African American or all three. Her choice. Her joining a black sorority says it all.
Black Americans are notrious about who the call their own. The fact there is a lot of excitement for her in the Black community says it all. Shit, Beyonce allowed her to use one of her songs. And good luck arguing with Beyonce and her supporters.
If according to your rhetoric she's African American, then how is it that when she was sworn into the senate she identified as East Indian American?
And, why is it that if she is African American as you're claiming, its recorded in black and white that the House made a big thing about the first female of Indian descent being sworn in?
These questions sound like things you should be able to figure out if that is truly your intention. Good Luck.
You're obviously dealing in half-truths, here is the absolute facts and the truth, her dad himself is half Indian and half Jamaican.
She is NOT considered African American by any stretch of the imagination.
How is it that when she was sworn into the senate, she did so under her Indian ancenstry?
Let's face the facts, Kamila Haris is American with Indian and "partial" Jamaican roots, this makes her Indian American, it doesn't makr her African American.
So, she is no longer 100% Indian? This is Kamala's dad.
Early life and education Donald Jasper Harris was born in Brown's Town, St. Ann Parish, Jamaica, the son of Oscar Joseph Harris and Beryl Christie Harris (née Finegan),[7][8] who were African Jamaicans.[9][10] As a child, Harris learned the catechism, was baptized and confirmed in the Anglican Church, and served as an acolyte. Harris's grandmother told him that she was descended from Irish-born Hamilton Brown, who founded the local Anglican Church.[11] He grew up in the Orange Hill area of Saint Ann Parish, near Brown's Town[12][13] and graduated from Titchfield High School.[citation needed]
You can believe whatever you want to believe. But while you believe that, Black Americans and the Black sorority she pledged when she was in College will be out in force for her.
Amujale: The African woman is God, aint suggesting the African woman created the Universe here, but that the Black woman is fundamental to all of human kind.
Secondly, Kamila Haris is neither Black[sic] nor identifies as Black or with the Black community.
She is 100% East Indian, Dravidian.
Granted that the current President of the US - Joe Biden has played an absolute stunner, using Kamila in this way, however, African Americans are politically literate and will easily see through the play.
Amujale: Nina Simone's family was defestated by Kamila Haris's stint as California' Attorney General.
In the said situation, the family of Nina Simone (more commonly known as "the high priestess of soul music", Nina Simone remains as one of the most iconic soul artist in the African American community) were ruthlessly dispossessed by team Kamila, as they took away the most treasured assets that was meant to be passed over to her family and awarded it to Sony Music.
Do you have a link to anything about this? This post doesn't give a lot of information.
I did find this link Seems more like someone was committing fraud.
Hopefully she has more proof of this than in this article otherwise she's not going to get a good reception, esp. using this to try to go after the maybe first Black Female Pres.
Ms Harris, who was California’s top prosecutor between 2011 and 2017, led a legal battle against the singer’s daughter, Lisa Simone Kelly, who was in charge of her late mother’s estate and charitable trust.
bemeruca: You posted a video showing Biden putting Kamala in charge of the border 😂😂 You are a clown 🤡
Scouting the internet looking for lies Hahahaha.
Meanwhile, House Democrats accused Republicans of trying to “slander” Harris and criticized that GOP lawmakers changed some text of the original bill. Part of it initially said Harris was tapped “to serve as the administration’s border czar.” Republicans changed it to instead say that Harris “came to be known colloquially as the Biden administration’s ‘border czar.’”
Ask the same question on that thread if you wish and I'd answer you. I'm not going to let him litter this thread with his nonsense. He'll feel inclined to do the same elsewhere. On this thread, I'll persistently respond to anything related to him with prepared, canned responses.
-Lord
Lol @reccy didn't I tell you so. Follow his logic, he will litter this thread with the same canned response(lie), but when asked to explain the response(lie)... that would be litter. And he has such a low regard for the intelligence of people, he thinks that's a rational response.
It's the same tactic Trump and MAGA do in the US. Their arguments are weak and when they called out on their weak arguments, they aren't capable of supporting them. So they just lie and Lie Repeatedly, then Lie some more. And just flood the space with lies. Just like Lord Dumfuq (his new name).
bemeruca: Harvard graduate, why are the same people who say she was the border czar now lying to you that it's a republican lie? Why do you believe such lies? Why is popular dictionary using kamala harris as a border czar to define what czar means? Why is hakim J, now saying kamala was never put in charge of the border?
Why are you dumb?
A dictionary is not news. They could have quoted CNN, ABC, msnbc from the video i posted. and like basilico showed you, a government document to explain what a czar means.
Lol. Even the Republicans changed their messaging because they knew they were lying. But the easily duped people like you persist.
You are a bad joke.
Meanwhile, House Democrats accused Republicans of trying to “slander” Harris and criticized that GOP lawmakers changed some text of the original bill. Part of it initially said Harris was tapped “to serve as the administration’s border czar.” Republicans changed it to instead say that Harris “came to be known colloquially as the Biden administration’s ‘border czar.’” https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/25/congress/house-condemns-harris-on-border-00171124
Your lesson for the day is primary source vs secondary source. I quoted Biden explaining what her responsibilities are. That is a Primary Source. You quoted a dictionary explaining how the word is used by quoting a Right Wing Newspaper explaining what they thought. Why not just quote Basilico using the word here. That isn't a secondary source, more like tertiary source. It's odd, did you think the word usage was the definition?
reccy: Then, where is the sane society bullshit they use to bombard us with? If America, the father and mother of the so called democracy, can go so awry about an election, then there is so many questions mark on the leaders and the modus operandi of the system they introduced!
Yes, it's looking to be a dangerous election.
And a lot of what is happening is due to right wing propaganda promoted by MAGA and people who aren't American and pretending to be American purely for profit. Some on the left then feel the need to push back in kind.
It is the same thing LoardAdam16 is doing, just for ego. He pretends to live in the US to make his views seem more authentic while pushing divisive rhetoric.
The FBI have been shutting down accounts of people based in Russia pretending to be Americans (Black, gay, etc) pushing Russian agendas trying to cause division and violence.
reccy: @ ijebosb address this now. I'm more particularly interested on how one arrives at this.
At the op, can you show us where he made this mathematical fraud??. For the sake of clarity and .........
Please no insult ahbeg.
I wish I knew what he was talking about. You should tell him to quote me or take a screenshot to explain. That should be easy right? But, I guarantee you he won't.
It's typical of people like him who can't be wrong, yet often are. They start lying.
bemeruca: you are stupid and that is being kind. The video shows all these media outlets who told us she is the border czar are now saying she was never the border czar and that it is a republican lie, use your intuition. you spend your life here trying to prove to us you are smart but then you are easily lied to. you said you went to Harvard again, Right?
Biden's actual speech on what Harris's responsibilities are. Watch it a couple of times, write it down if you have to. You can even have ChatGpt help you. I know comprehension is hard for you.
How many times have you played this game with me? And how many times have I made you look like a fool. Babbling as you run away? You lose, buy a ticket, lose again and buy another ticket..
I'm not going to even read whatever you posted. I guarantee you it doesn't say what you think it says.
So if you want me to respond, you should 1.) Explain what you think it means. 2.) link to a secondary source that agrees with your explanation of what that document means. 3.) link to what detractors of the document say 4.) explain why your view of it is right compared to what the detractors say
You have to start doing your own diligence. You can't be an adult always getting fooled by other people.
bemeruca: Sorry simp, we are not a mindless drone. You are only showing your inability to exists with your own agency. They told you the hunter laptop did not exist right? This is election rigging you are looking at.
bemeruca: This is it guys? we are talking to a robot. You are a person with no agency. Society is doomed. How long before they lie to you to the point you try to assassinate someone? because this is common on the left now.
Facts. Stubborn things. You can commence in ur pursuit to redefine what words mean now.
But Ms. Harris was not, in fact, appointed border czar, nor was she tasked with addressing the broader problems plaguing the border itself, where minors have at times slept on the floors of overcrowded facilities for days beyond the legal limit. Rather she was deputized by President Biden with the diplomatic mission of solving the “root causes” of migration from countries like Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras, tackling the issues that spur people to flee in the first place, like drug violence and lack of economic opportunity. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/17/us/politics/kamala-harris-border-czar.html
LordAdam16: That guy is a ret**d that belongs in a special needs center. Don't take anything he says seriously.
He is on my mentions, begging for attention, and I'm repeating evidence of his ret**dation. That's all he will and should get. Only engage properly with the sensible ones. Not their ret**ds!
-Lord
Fam, you can give me your fake US ballot and I can put it in the fake US mail, so that you can register your fake preference for US president.
Then explain how saying that is wrong is right wing propaganda.
Then explain why a poll asking the same question about 24 hours apart has an 8 point up swing.
All I have to do is repeat your howlers, f**l!
-Lord
This is common for most right wing MAGA on this site. Most of what you post is some form of lie you find on Right wing propaganda sites. When you get called out on your lie, you double and triple down on it. And then become a troll.
You pretend you live in the US. You don't. You pretend you understand polling, you clearly don't. If you did, you wouldn't be trying to equate two polls from two different pollsters with two different methodologies. Or you wouldn't be asking why two different polls taken 24 hours apart would be different. I mean.. wtf? The same poll surrounding a major event can be different if taken 1 hour apart if that is enough time for information to saturate. Let alone talking about a 2nd poll from a 2nd different pollster.
You are like intellectual fluff. You like to sound smart to yourself without the actual smartness or understanding of what you are talking about . Lol.. So, you lie.
Then explain how saying that is wrong is right wing propaganda.
Then explain why a poll asking the same question about 24 hours apart has an 8 point up swing.
All I have to do is repeat your howlers, f**l!
-Lord
A Troll is Born.
Pretending you don't have data to download the image won't change the image. And Pretending you don't know how to do math won't change they fact you are wrong.
LordAdam16: You have a degree in math and failed basic arithmetic of 12 - 10.
What a ret**d!
Still waiting for your explanation of how 12 - 10 = 5. And why pointing out that is wrong is right wing propaganda.
And when you're done, explain why a poll asking the same question about 24 hours apart has an 8 point up swing?
You're a dumb f**l, and you'll earn notoriety for it.
Imagine not being able to read your own screenshot. There are trolls, and then there are single digit IQ buff**ns like yourself who say 12 - 10 = 5. The former can be tolerated, you however must be ridiculed, derided, and humiliated at every opportunity.
12 - 10 = 5. COW!
-Lord
Let me post it for you again, I even circled the numbers for you. Make sure you turn your data on this time so you can download the image.
54 - 49 = 5 12 - 10 = 2
Jesus. Was that that complex for you? Just admit you were wrong and don't understand polling.
A poll said something different today than a different poll said yesterday.. Explain it.. Derp Derp Derp -Lord Dumbfuq
LordAdam16: The plan is not to dissuade a majority with a single policy. The plan is to chip away at her support and undecideds by highlighting all her problematic records and positions.
Weed is still illegal in Georgia and Wisconsin. Two swing states.
So Team Red will focus on all her unpopular positions, not just the major ones.
-Lord
He said chip away at her by pointing to her support of weed to Georgia voters.