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IbeOkehie:
Is being a President or ruler of a country the only measure of female well being? If you mentioned women being forced to compete against men in sports, you might even have a point but that's a Democrat agenda.

India has had a woman PM, maybe two. The USA is far ahead of India in women's rights.

If producing a President is the best measure of well being, your citing Obama means the lot of Black Americans is perfect. By the way, can you name a country where Negroes have better lives measured by HDI, political and economic rights, than we do in the USA?

The life I live in the USA reflects the data you can find on the internet at any reliable repository of public info. I'm sorry if you're constantly victimized by racism in Boston. Maybe you should move to a majority Black neighborhood or city or even a majority Black country where you'll have better experiences.

I wish you all the best.

God Bless the USA.

Lol. Fam I live a great life in Boston. Went to excellent schools where I was always in the minority. Worked in companies where I was generally the only black person in the room. Live in a white neighborhood with good neighbors I go to dinner with. I'm enough of a chameleon to be successful in those spaces. But because I am doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist. And because I'm vicitimized doesn't mean I'll run away. I'll fight to make it better for others. Not a runner. Thanks for your concern though.

Just very weird you chose to diminish the racism in the US. Who are you helping? What's the benefit to you in painting a false image of the US?

Fam, you haven't noticed, I'm not debating all the rest of that stuff with you. Esp. since most of it IMHO is nonsense.
Open a new thread and if I'm interested in schooling you there, I'll post.
Only interested in Nigerian perspectives on US politics.

Laurene:
She's Indian btw... They attached black to her because she's a woman of color.
That's Democrats partisan identity politics

Kamala's dad was a Jamaican born Economist.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/kamala-harris-dad-don-harris.html

I think your goal here is to spread propaganda Mr Laurence. Pretending to be a woman and pretending to live in the US makes it easier. Tis the reason I'll continue to call you out.

Laurene:
Don't mind him... Watch Dems try to normalize Harris but she'd be facing same administrative problems as Biden.
She's even far left socialist from California.
Older white liberals wouldn't vote for her

This is drivel.
At least you got a lot of the Right Wing catchphrases in.

IbeOkehie:
USA is sexist too? And racist and everything else? Na wa o! The USA is full of hatred but millions of immigrants from all over the world still line up to come here. I wonder why all these people can't see the hate and stay home.

All this sexism, how many countries in the world have better conditions for women? And of course there NO OTHER COUNTRY where Negroes are richer or have better political and economic rights.

You have to compare the USA to something, some other country. Which one please?

Long Live the King and God Bless the USA.

Try comparing it with every other country that has a woman PM or President. Of the 46 US Presidents, 0 has been women, and 1 has been black.
You seem to live in a made up version of the US that fits some narrative you've created.

Laurene:
Democrats in chaos coming days/weeks.
Now Biden has to resign.
If he's too senile to run for reelection he's therefore too senile to continue as president.

Hey, Mr.Laurence, do you foreign posters get these talking points mailed to you?

MeNmyfamily:
Harris isn't even popular.

Yeah, Republicans do a good job attacking and defining Democratic rising nominees, like they did Hilary.
But, Trump isn't even close to popular. It was a tied race even after Biden's bad debate performance.

We will see when she gets on the trail, does some interviews and the polls come out.

MeNmyfamily:
By appointing somebody (Harris )who never even ran in the primary?

Add the constitution to things you need to Google.
The electors are chosen and they pick the nominee.

MeNmyfamily:
Indeed, I don't realistically see a Harris victory.

That was also 8 years ago. And Reproductive Rights is a HUGE issue now.
So we'll see.

LordAdam16:
Says the same criminals who cheated Bernie out of his nomination in 2016.

-Lord

You may want to google the ward "cheated". You seem to not understand the meaning.
No wonder you think Dems 'cheated' and stole the election from Trump.

MeNmyfamily:
Is America ready for a female president? Have they risen above sexism (and racism for that matter)? Your guess is as good as mine.
Regardless, the buildup to the election should be fun.

Racism we can do. It's the sexism that worries me.
Learned the hard way while I was knocking on doors for Hillary in North Carolina. White women were disparaging her. They didn't think a woman should be in the White House. Shocked me.
I say the US is still more sexist than racist.

LordAdam16:
Exactly what you f*ckers would have done.
It's just posturing. Don't sweat it.

-Lord

Dems don't try to cheat like Republicans. We actually believe in Democracy.

Republicans at their best/worst.

stanluiz:
Can Kamala Harris beat trump ?

The country is still very sexist. Kamala is very qualified, but given the sexism/racism of the US, and the realistic need to beat MAGA, unfortunately, she wouldn't have been my choice. But if she is the nominee, she has my vote and I'll do everything I can to help her win.
So we will find out.

raumdeuter:
According to Democrats, Biden is not fit enough to run for the next 4yrs but he's good enough for the next 6months

Democrats aren't saying that. He would be a more effective President, but at 81 and slowing down he's served the country well, time to pass the torch.

Republicans always seem to say the most ridiculous things while at the same time about to elect a man 3 years younger who is a Convict.

IbeOkehie:
Might be true, but what were the political dynamics that forced that amount of government borrowing and spending? We all know which party was screaming for the Federal Government to print and distribute money during the Covid crisis. Regrettably, President Trump gave in just like President Jonathan gave in to the APC over fuel subsides in Jan 2012.

Even after Trump was out of office, the Dems saw fit to still pass more massive print and spend bills. The lone Democrat dissenter was Senator Manchin of West Virginia who saved this country from ANOTHER stimulus bill.

Liberal & Progressive parties just love spending money.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Might be true? Huh? I gave you a link. You can research it yourself instead of peddling things that aren't true.

IbeOkehie:
What were the political dynamics that forced that amount of government borrowing and spending?

Trump was the President. If he didn't want to spend it, he wouldn't have.

Dude, you should figure out why you really support the Republicans. It can't be the stuff you keep posting, because they are mostly untrue.
If you cared about who was better on the economy you'd be a Democrat.
If you cared about who was destroying the Judiciary, you'd vote Democrat.
Or can you explain to me why any person would be against Judges having a Code of ethics. Or Judges disclosing large donors. Or judges recusing themselves off cases where their wives were directly involved.

You seem to like the Dem policies, but want to pretend the Republicans are for those things so you can vote Republican.

IbeOkehie:
Unlike you I'm sure enough of myself to post with my real name. I live in North Carolina and I've lived in the USA for decades. It's funny for an ANONYMOUS poster on Nairaland to challenge my bona fides. I should be asking if you're a real person. Give that one up OK?

The problem is, that you post as if you don't live in the US. Some of the things you say are just ridiculous.
Like, you say you live in North Carlina and are calling Boston racist. That's just nuts. Almost like Stockholm syndrome.
It's as if you are posting for people who have never been to the US and won't know what you are saying isn't true, or you've never been to the US yourself or have never been outside of the South.

IbeOkehie:
I'm sure you're aware of the geographic migration trends in USA the past 10 years or so? Most migration is moving from Democrat to Republican dominated states. States dominated by Democrats are losing population, this is well known fact. Here in NC we're being overwhelmed by refugees from Democrat controlled New York, Illinois and California. Just Google, I'm sure you're already aware of all this. In fact Illinois in the last decade has seen the first REVERSAL in historic Black American migration trends....Blacks are now moving away from Illinois back to the Southern USA.

Most of this migration is because how expensive these Democratic places have become because they are successful. If you can't afford an area, you move. Houses in my neighborhood are a minimum 1 million dollars. My ex moved from CT, to NC. She was offered a raise to move to NC. The apartment she had in downtown Charlotte was new construction for half of what she was paying in CT. She stacked money for a couple of years, then got an even much better paying job and moved to Seattle.

IbeOkehie:
The USA has a racist history and the people decided to change. Black African immigrants are using that history as an excuse to avoid competition and grab benefits intended for Black descendants of the slaves that were sold into slavery by....Black Africans. Again I say, you can't make this up. Very smart strategy though, one can only blame the American people who keep voting for it...perfect mugus abi?

Most of this post is outdated. That used to be the case back in the day. It was there was no way to differentiate. And immigrants are usually a self selected group of people. Most of the affirmative action is now based on socio economic patterns.

IbeOkehie:
The USA has become more like Nigeria in all the ways you mentioned...and it happened under a Democrat Presidency because their policies are the same as APC. I've written many comments on exactly this on other threads. Whether debt, illegal immigration, politicization of the judiciary, reckless printing of money that sparked inflation, excessive borrowing, general economic distress Democrats and APC are twins.

Good Luck to USA.

You can't have a real discussion if you choose to post lies found on right wing websites.
Let's take Debt for one. Trump added 2x the amount of debt that Biden did. So, if your argument is that inflation was caused by the printing of more money, Trump was at the minimum 2x more responsible than Biden.

But what is the point of posting this stuff if you aren't actually verifying the things you hear/read? I hate being wrong, so I can't post stuff I haven't verified myself.
If your goal is to just support Republicans, the jut support them, no need for the made-up stats and gaslighting.

Trump added twice as much to the national debt as Biden: Analysis
https://thehill.com/business/4736740-trump-biden-fiscal-policy-deficit/

IbeOkehie:
PLEASE stop the slurs or name calling. Come on, let's have a civil discussion.

Good Luck to USA.

Nothing civil about Bemeruca. I won't have civil conversation with certain people who?

1.) Choose not to be civil.
2.) Who promulgate racism towards other black people. Bemeruca is fond of that, even calling black people Niggers (the racist type).
3.) Hypocrites who chastise people for having kids out of wedlock yet have 4 children out of Wedlock (which he admitted to)
4.) People who post phishing links to get people in this thread's IP addresses so they can hack their computers and get their personal information. (something Bemeruca did).
3.) People who lie and pretend to live in the US. (something Bemeruca does as well).

Don't need your advice on this.

IbeOkehie:
Boston is overwhelmingly a Democrat city so the racism is no surprise, 🙄 I know I've read somewhere it's one of the most segregated cities in the USA.

The answer to your question about Hulk Hogan is simple - every human being is racist, tribalist, sexist, religiously prejudiced, classist and whatever other discriminatory tendency we can think of.

This is post is dishonest. Par for the course for a Black person who has to rationalize his vote for the Republican party.

1.) Democratic cities are racist? Lol. You said you lived in the US? And you said you went to school in the South? Are you sure?
Most Southern states are Republican led and racist. Dem states are generally diverse. Boston has a gay governor and an asian mayor.
I did road trip through through some Southern states and holy shit, the amount of racism and poverty I saw was shocking. Some places looked like they had been left back in the 70's, both physically(delapitaed) and in their views(racist).

2.) I asked you a simple question; is Hulk Hogan racist? And if so why did Trump and Republicans allow him a speech at their convention? Instead of answering the simple question, you deflected to an answer to all humans. I know you are capable of being specific. Lol.
So let me help. Hulk Hogan is racist. Why, he said he was in a leaked phone call that got him fired from the WWE. And why did the RNC give him a speech? Because Republicans condone racism because it appeals to their uneducated white racist base.

3.) I am not racist, tribalist, religiously prejudiced or sexist. I may be a tad classist. So, speak for yourself. You may also want to review the definitions of those words esp. racism. Racism involves the belief that race is a determinant of human characteristics therefore making some races superior.

4.) It goes to say if you can't call out your own parties racism and have to deflect, maybe you shouldn't be supporting that party. I've been saying this for a while and you seem to prove it again. To be a Black person voting Republican you have to intrinsically be dishonest with yourself about what the party stands for. The party doesn't like you, it just wants you to vote for it.

bemeruca:
Your arguments seem to be coming off as feminist propaganda.

Lol. You should probably stay out of this discussion. Lol.

I mean you have 4 out of wedlock children from you baby momma, who you don't live with.
So, this pro family, "single mothers being bad for society" stance you're taking is purely hypocritical Bullshit.

Gerrard59:
Typical of Nigerians who have mentally checked out of Nigeria, but are surprised that Trump has supporters in Nigeria. Go and tell the victims of continuous Islamist attacks in Northern Nigeria that they have an "immature view of Christianity".

The good thing is that as long as Trump is alive and kicking, he is gonna win the election as I don't see a good replacement from the Democrats and certainly not Harris or Michelle as one FT commentator opined.

And tell me about Trump's support in Lagos or the East? Is it because of Islamist attacks in Northern Nigeria?
I'm a Nigerian American who has been to Nigeria 2x this year alone. Does that sound like I've checked out to you?
I am also a Christian as are most of my good friends. I am a Democrat because of my faith.
I was walking through Boston Friday and near a government housing project was a sign that said "free summer lunches for children and teenagers". I was proud of Boston for that. I am comfortable paying more taxes for programs like that. That's what I believe the crux of the New Testament(Christianity) is about.

Trump is a degenerate who corrupts everything esp every governmental structure around him.
I always wonder what causes a country to be as ungovernable and as corrupt as a place like Nigeria and could that happen to the US. With Trump, I can see the US becoming like Nigeria. From the corruption, to the lies, to the us vs. them mentality, to the breakdown of the judicial system. Again, you live in Nigeria. And you support Trump. Tell me, what policies do you think if Trump were Nigerian's president would help Nigeria? It seems Buhari and Tinubu are mini Trumps.

IbeOkehie:
How about you first tell me why Joe Biden wrote and pushed the passage of the 1994 Crime Bill....if you even know what it is? That's the law responsible for the largest legal mass incarceration of Black Men since Jim Crow, based on very flimsy and targeted offenses. The law that Donald Trump has tried to ameliorate with the First Step Act.

Joe Biden that resisted school integration because as he said it would turn schools into racial jungles? Joe Biden that claims to have marched in Civil Rights protests when the evidence is he was never there?





Good Luck to USA.

My neighbor to the right of me is white and in his late 60's. The neighbor in front of me is also white and in his late 60's. I'm the young guy on the street. Both grew up in racist Boston. We go to dinner as a group from time to time. Planning a dinner now for one of their retirements. I'm sure both were racist at some point in their lives and have pretty much acknowledged that during conversations. But even though at times I can hear the twinkle of racial bias in how they talk about things, they have acknowledged they are trying to do better. And I gave them grace try to judge people on who they are now, not who they were, despite the mistakes they might have made.

I use that same rationale with Biden. His life has spanned generations. He has made mistakes, but the man he is today is a different man who is trying to right those mistakes. Compare who he is now and what he does now, with Trump and the Republican party.

You mean the First Step Act Trump regrets signing because he didn't get the Felon vote he thought he'd get for passing it?

But now, Trump “is telling people he’s mad” at how criminal justice reform has panned out, according to a person close to the president. “He’s really mad that he did it. He’s saying that he’s furious at Jared because Jared is telling him he’s going to get all these votes of all these felons.”
...
“It would be difficult to say it’s a change of heart. I don’t think his heart was ever really in it,” said one White House official, adding that some Trump aides questioned why the president — who once declared himself “the law and order candidate” — endorsed the First Step Act in the first place.
White House staffers have remarked to one another on the irony that Trump wants to give the death penalty to criminals like drug smugglers, but also supported legislation that would greenlight the early release of some nonviolent drug offenders.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/24/trump-kushner-criminal-justice-snub-1507285

Martin Luther King said, "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice". Ask yourself if that can be said about Trump and the Republican Party.

And this post is par for the course with you. Some cheap deflection of barely passable talking points that anyone in the know would know is Bullshit. You are clearly used to talking to yourself in the mirror or people not familiar with US politics.

I answered your deflection. Now answer my original question. Or are you too scared to?

IbeOkehie:
Sorry but this is not true.

You've been making comments on single parent homes. Republicans are very vocal about supporting two parent families. Because Blacks have normalized single parenthood, such Republican advocacy is interpreted as racist. This same conflation between race and certain characteristics is responsible for all the perception of Republicans as racist.

The Igbo proverb goes when a joke is made about dry and brittle bones, old people tend not to laugh.

Take a little time and think about it and you'll see.



Welfare. The escalation of welfare payments in the USA as part of the Great Society Programs to help the poor in general and Black Americans in particular. One of the conditions for receiving welfare was that there could be no husband or even man living in the home.

Women have learned to marry the government rather than men....the government has limitless money, most men have limited money.

Good Luck to USA.

Saying you don't believe the GOP openly promotes racism renders any argument you make on racism and politics in the US null and void.

You spoke earlier about emotional arguments. This seems to be one.
You want to support Republicans for whatever reason so you have found ways to rationalize their clear racism and paper over it.

Tell me, would you consider Hulk Hogan racist?
If no, why?
If yes, why was he allowed to give a speech at the RNC?

bemeruca:
IbeOkehie Just know this guy has experience for every situation.
talk about the moon, he will tell you his dad was beating his mom in the dark side of the moon.

From guy who can't breathe without lying. Why don't you tell us more about your time spent in the US while posting pictures of Canada.
You should ask Basilico how a similar comment worked out for him.

Gerrard59:
.....
Meanwhile, Christians in Nigeria especially Northern Nigeria would rather support Trump who openly called out the continuous butchering of Christians in the country. It was the GOP evangelical wing who lobbied for Nigeria to be listed amongst countries where religious persecution thrives. Here is the stat: Christians are slaughtered in Nigeria than anywhere else on the earth. Yes, more Christians have been killed in the black most populous country than in China and North Korea combined. https://www.persecution.org/2023/07/11/reconsidering-nigerias-removal-from-the-cpc-list/

There it is. This illogical support of a demagogue like Trump always boils down to some immature view of Christianity.
The rest of your post made little sense. I'm not arguing this with you. Your arguments have been no difference than the ones, Basilico and Bemeruca constantly make. Check out my past replies to them.

I studied Math in University. Please take out that "Learn Mathematics" from your signature. You're logic is terrible. You don't deserve to represent Math.

Pax.

Gerrard59:
Actually, that is a global phenomenon. I have checked the stat here across East Asian societies and in Japan specifically, the highest rate of poverty is found in single-mother homes. In Korea and others, the same applies. One of the reasons why the birth rate is low in East Asia is because women would rather remain childless than have children whose fathers are not present in their lives. Furthermore, Tensazangetsu20 who lives in Chile corroborated the same as statistics there show there is a very high rate of single mother parenting and these homes constitute the highest proportion of poor people. In fact, the numbers I have seen have led me to believe that women should not lead the home all alone. It is a strong reason I advocate for the two-parent household and detest baby-mamaism.



Before you begin such, be financially independent outside YouTube. Some people who prefer fats and figos instead of facts and figures will do all they can to cancel you.

You are devoted to this.
You do know Trump is on his 3rd wife. His son just got divorced too.
Republicans are hypocritical. They'll get divorced and have baby mommas and still preach to others. Right, Bemeruca?

IbeOkehie:


Dear Sir, I'm writing with my real name, I'm not hiding. I started my life AT THE ABSOLUTE BOTTOM, working illegally as a fast food fry cook at age 16. Who do you think I was working with? Which girls was I dating and which friends was I making? Wetin you wan tell me?

Look, until I attended my Black University, I didn't even know there was this wealthy class of Black Americans...not celebrities and such, but just solid people whose GREAT GRAND PARENTS were university graduates, people so well grounded they have family wills and traditions that dictate they must go to that university, they wouldn't take an offer to Harvard if you gave them a full scholarship.

The issues in Black America are complex, I'm sure I don't know it all but again, I know a lot. How do start to illustrate? When I moved to Baltimore, many people were concerned about the murder rate in that city. I myself became apprehensive enough that I checked out the data. I found out that if you don't get involved with illegal narcotics, your chances of being harmed are small. The stat I saw at the time was that 90% of murders AND murderers in Baltimore were involved in illegal drugs. I'm not kidding, I actually researched this.

One of my work mates was a son of Nigerian immigrants, born and raised in the USA. One day I heard people saying oh, he had to leave work because his brother got killed in a shootout. When he came back to work the next day or so, I offered him condolences and asked how he was coping. He said he's not bothered at all, that the whole family had been expecting it for a while because he disregarded their warnings about getting involved with illegal drugs.

So what killed his druggie brother, the racism of the same system that allowed him to rise to a job with a six-figure starting salary at one of the best institutions on planet earth? Or is there something else at play that explains this disparity between brothers raised by the same parents under one roof? Come on man!!!

Dear sir, over 75% of Black American children are now born to single parents, mostly mothers. Every kind of research in the Western world has shown that is a one way track to poverty and all sorts of bad HDI outcomes. Are you telling me all these women were FORCED to get pregnant and have these children or what? I saw a paper some time ago that over 33% of children of Black African descent in the UK are now born to single mothers ....this paper researched SUB SAHARAN AFRICANS in particular, excluding Carribean Blacks and others. I have friends in the UK and I've talked to them and they confirm it's true. One of them was so bitter and started telling me how he's living hand to mouth working like a slave while his sister simple had 3 children without marriage and now lives comfortably on big welfare payments and free housing off the government.

The data is the life around you. Like I tell people about Nigeria, everything is out in the open now, White Man has invented internet so all we have to do is LOOK, apply LOGIC and LEARN.

What do you think of this article to which I referred the California lady: https://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html

Here's the full post in case you want to get my full view, I encourage you to read it -
https://www.nairaland.com/8156082/nigeria-gets-751.88-million-recently/2#131006847

I keep being tempted to start a Youtube Channel. You're telling me I don't know upper middle class or poor people in the USA or UK? Thanks for the laughs sha, wetin I no go hear for this Nairaland. I think I need to mind my own business sha...but....still, thanks for the laughs!!!

Good Luck to USA.

Your post is no different than most of the posts people have written with your ideology. Read and seen it already. Faulty premises, data that hasn't been fully thought through (like this argument about single black woman).etc. etc. There's even someone in this thread whose children have a single unwed mom, who tried to make the same argument that single mom's are the reason why Black children are in crisis. Nuts.

I am not diminishing your views or your past, I'm just saying it sounds like you don't have a diverse group of people around you.
I didn't grow up in the US wealthy either. My dad was doing his PHD in another state so he had 2 households to support while he was studying. My best friend when I was 13 was shot not far from where we lived. The first house my dad bought, when they found out he was black, they cancelled the agreement, made up a lie and tried to keep his deposit. I've been pulled over multiple times with guns drawn, once in front of my privileged high school. I've seen the racism personally. Now I'm somewhat older, I see it less. Not that it's not there, just that my money serves as privilege which insulates me some. And so with my friends. From being able to send their kids to private school, to having enough power now to check a racist cracker. You have it backwards, wealth insulates you some from racism. And if a wealthy or middle class person is yelling racism, it's because it exists and should worry you. Look it, a friend was telling me someone we both know, probably one of the wealthiest black people in my state, maybe even in the US, their kid got into an Ivy league, but they decided to go to a HBCU. Why? Because of the racism this wealthy black man knew and had experienced and wanted his child to not experience in college. I was shocked. Again, you have it backwards, your perspective doesn't seem to be broad enough.

But this thread is on the US Politics. If you want to align your argument to the election, cool, if not you should start a new thread.

armyofone:
You should turn vegetarian

I was vegan for 3 years. A lot of health benefits.
Always got those funny looks when I'm in Naij and would order soup without the swallow and no meat/fish.
But did find a place that made oatmilk coffee, surprisingly enough.
I added back fish and still cut back on as much of the animal food as possible.
I do have my steak/burgers once in a while, think I missed that the most. But they have made the plant based burgers/steak so much better.
You?

IbeOkehie:


Not that I have to justify anything, but I know and interact with more Black Americans on a daily basis than you ever will. I migrated from Nigeria penniless, lived in the USA over 30 years, moved back to Nigeria and came back again. I've lived in Baltimore City, a city over 65% Black American and completely controlled by Black Americans. I attended one of the most most important Black owned Universities in the USA.



I've said it before and here again - I've see it all....OK, maybe not all but enough to know a lot. I used to babble all that racism stuff too, so I do understand where you're at.

Good Luck to USA.

As I said, I guarantee "you don't have access to other Black people of differing socioeconomic backgrounds to bounce these "thoughts" of yours off of." I was primarily talking about wealthier Black Americans.

Why?

Your post has little understanding of how racism works. In fact you have it backwards.
As your socioeconomic position changes or as you get wealthier, you experience less racism, not because it doesn't exist but because you have more resources and are in a position to create spaces and opportunities where it doesn't touch you as much. So wealthier black people can sometimes forget it exists until it slaps them in the face again one day.

bemeruca:
your problem is your racism.
Blacks captured blacks and sold them to white men for bottles and umbrellas. 40 human beings were sold for 1 umbrella. the slaves that made it to the United States were the lucky slaves.

today, the weak victims who have nothing to do with what happened in the past are asking for reparation as if it was the white man who enslaved their ancestors. why don't they ask the Nigerian government for reparation? they should go to badagry LAGOS and ask for reparation.

have you guys ever discussed the battle to free slaves and end the slave trade that some people lost their lives for?
slavery was the norm and everyone was doing it, you people should move on.

Sharrup. You're a self hating black man who spends his life trying to be seen in the "American Politics Thread".
You're a broken person. Who the gives a fux what you think.
Let me know if you want me to start a "How to sneak into Canada and apply for asylum" thread.

IbeOkehie:
I think your arguments are based more on emotion, fear and greed than anything else. Again, every human being alive is racist, tribalist, religiously parochial, whatever. The claims of racism in the USA are exaggerated by middle class Black African immigrants to justify their access to benefits meant for the descendants of those they sold into slavery. How ironic!

Black Africans sold their brethren into slavery and now come to the USA to steal the benefits the White Man set aside as compensation to the heirs of those slaves. You can't make this crap up, for real. And while the USA may have used its profits of slavery to build a great nation, the Black African slave sellers used theirs to drink ogogoro and marry many wives and produce plenty children.

Black Americans got their full Civil Rights in 1964, South Africans got theirs in 1994 and Nigeria got independence in 1960. Of the three, the Negroes of the Zoo are the poorest. How come?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNUZQNpWZ10

The Black American victims of racism in the USA are the richest national group of Negroes on earth.

Nigeria, home to an estimated 20% of Negroes on this planet, is a shithole. Every honest person has known and acknowledged this before President Trump ever said it.

The USA deserves a better immigration system than it has today; priority should be given to the best persons and those who don't hate the USA. It's clear that too many immigrants hate their host nations.

I only blame the Western nations that allowed themselves to be browbeaten and intimidated into accepting immigration. Go throw all these accusations in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or Russia and see how it goes. Nonsense, indeed too much kindness is also a weakness.

Good Luck to USA.

This post is full of faux intellectualism and mostly uninformed.
You seem to know little about racism in the US.
And seem to know little about why more middle class black people access "benefits meant for the descendants of those they sold into slavery" than more disadvantaged black people. It's more complex than what you think.

I've read another one of your posts in another thread, which employed some of the same erroneous "logic". Logic like "1+3=22"
I'm not sure where you live but if it is the US, it's clear you don't have access to other Black people of differing socioeconomic backgrounds to bounce these "thoughts" of yours off of. You should. Those discussion may elucidate this concept of racism for you.

Anyhow, everyone may have some implicit biases they may not even be aware of. The goal in life should be to be find them and root them out to make sure they are not impacting others. You seem comfortable in people just having them and hurting others because of them.

I'm not sure what happened to you or happens to certain black people, a lot in this thread, that they choose to become racism defenders. It's peculiar and very sad.

This is Trump's America
When laws only matter for certain people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv0U5L0PvzU