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PDPGuy:
Right! Senator Vance is Trump on steroids

Smarter though.

happney65:
Watched Vance on CNN about a Month or so ago and he was asked if he would accept the outcome of the election if they lost. Dude couldn't give a straight Yes or No answer except to be beating around the bush.

Bunch of Assholes!

Yup
Part of of his allure is his connection to Peter Thiel. Trump wants his financial backing.
Instead of picking a true Blue Collar type, or a minority or a women, he picks and 'elitist' Yale law school educated California venture Capitalist. Part of the financial establishment.

You can't make this up.
He always fools his uneducated followers. Lol.

DaddyCoool:
Personally, by the time I finished secondary school I already had all the formal education I needed. The rest of education was just learning a trade.

American economy was doing great under Trump before covid. So were immigration and oil - US was totally oil independent.

I saw a video (I'll find and post it) where Europeans were asked to make noise for who they support as various American leaders were mentioned. Trump's noise was by far the loudest

Since you brought your personal education into this, no insult meant, but you didn't get the formal education you needed. Look at this conversation. You have been consistently wrong about most of what you posted here. Mostly, because you don't know how to research and when you try, you don't know how to be sufficiently critical of what you read to understand the inherent biases of the writers. Those are signs of being undereducated where it matters. Look it , you want to post a video of people cheering about world leaders. What does that prove? What is the sample size of those people? Where did those people come from? To think that something like that would be dispositive of anything, is flawed reasoning.


Honest, you should assume most of everything you know about the US is wrong.

US was never fully oil independent. Gas prices were lower because of the pandemic, no one drove. In fact. gas prices were so low, Trump made an agreement with OPEC to cut oil supply so that the prices would rebound and increase. So US gas prices started rising under Trump. I included a couple of sources.

Oil Nations, Prodded by Trump, Reach Deal to Slash Production
The deal will reduce output by 9.7 million barrels a day. While significant, the cut falls far short of what is needed to bring oil production in line with demand.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/business/energy-environment/opec-russia-saudi-arabia-oil-coronavirus.html
Special Report: Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources
https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/special-report-trump-told-saudi-cut-oil-supply-or-lose-us-military-support--idUSKBN22C1V3/
Why Trump is Pushing for Higher Oil Prices
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/business/dealbook/oil-price-opec-deal.html

But under Biden the US is at an all time high with Oil and Energy production. In fact outside of inflation every metric is better under Biden than Trump. The US Economy generally does better under Democratic Presidents.

Immigration is the only area that was doing ok and that was because the border was largely shut down due to a Covid Health Emergency law. After Covid, you couldn't use the law. The problem with the border is that asylum(look it up) is a US law. A president can't arbitrarily change that. The law has to be rewritten which the Republicans won't do.

You can google most of this stuff yourself. Again, assume everything you think you know about the US is wrong. It is.

budaatum:
Millions of Americans did just elect him once and voted for him a second time too, so history if you want, but I hope you're right and I'm wrong.

Just because I like history.
Roosevelt was the last President that was shot while running for Election. He was shot, saved by the speech he had in his pocket. And with the bullet still in his chest delivered his speech for 90 minutes. He later lost the Election.


<gift Link> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/14/us/politics/theodore-roosevelt-assassination-attempt.html?unlocked_article_code=1.7U0.ziHi.YYHpZRb4W0ZR&smid=url-share

DaddyCoool:
No college education does not mean uneducated.
Besides, it is NOT a Trump/Biden divide, rather it is a Republican/Democrat divide. See below

Hmm.. what would you consider an uneducated person to be then? You think you learn necessary critical thinking skills solely by a high school education if that?
Yes it is a Republican Democrat divide. And Trump is a Republican. But he has accelerated the divide. It's hard to have critical thinking skills and listen to Trump and not think he's a dumbass. It's why most Westerners in other countries dislike him as well.

It's also the reason why if you look at the Economy or any issue, the US usually fares better under Democratic Presidents. The only thing Republicans do well is Propaganda and fake religion.

But, you're spinning. Name one tangible thing Trump has done or one policy you think was effective for the US or that you would want to import into Nigeria, since I'm assuming that's where you live.

DaddyCoool:
Funny guy. You know full well that evangelicals and straight laced are usually Republicans while weirdos ok with cheating are usually Dems -
so are FBI, Justice department, etc. Can you tell us what prevents an illegal or other ineligible from mailing in ballot?

Here goes some of the education polling I was telling you about.
Trump does very well with White people without a college education.
His supporters consist largely of the uneducated in the US.
Makes sense as you have to be to support him.

I always find it remarkable that Trump does very well with White people with no college education. Yet these same people think it's the Biden supporters that are uneducated. Very odd.
White, college vs. White, no col. (college)
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/15/upshot/kamala-harris-biden-poll.html

Just read Melania Trump's assassination statement.

...A monster who recognized my husband as an inhuman political machine attempted to ring out Donald’s passion - his laughter, ingenuity, love of music, and inspiration. The core facets of my husband’s life - his human side - were buried below the political machine. Donald, the generous and caring man who I have been with through the best of times and the worst of times...

She was right there. Lol.
But an assassination attempt shouldn't be the opportunity to try to rewrite who a person was/is.
Trump or no candidate should be assassinated, but doesn't change the person he is.

budaatum:
Even if that individual is "grifting(increasing her profile) or trolling", there are some who will be swayed by bloody faced dump, I would think. It made me call him by his name for once, and some might hold their noses longer so they don't smell what they now know he is and vote for him.

My hope is such people are few, and that most consider project 2025 and "Roe v Wade is gone", and that it is an "opportunity for dems to talk about gun control",

She is grifting.
There may be someone somewhere who saw the "fist pump while people are wounded and dying behind him" pic and changed their mind. Don't think it'll be anything of consequence.
Went through her page, from her rational to switching to her praise of Musk, to her praise of Melania, seems contrived.

FarmlandInc:
She will be rewarded with a place as a Supreme Court Justice when Trump wins the election in November and Judge Thomas steps down

Yup, looks to be her aim. Trump broke the rule of law in the US.
Trump reminds me of a typical Nigerian politician. He corrupts everything around him.
And Cannon, a typical Nigerian Judge.

The Democrats and Republicans are playing two different games here.
We just watched a Trump appointed Judge who has been roundly criticized by a Republican leaning Appeals court for her earlier rulings in the same case, delay his case, then ultimately dismiss it just in time for him to be able to announce it at the start of his Political Convention. Sounds like a script that was written in Nigeria right?

The Dems need to get it together real quick.

basilico:
Been explained here that in Pennsylvania one needs to register as a voter to participate or rather spoil the votes of your different party by fronting a weaker candidate. Nikki Haley had majority democrat voters in some primary states.
Thomas Matthew Crooks donated to Actblue which funds leftist causes.
He has appeared in antifa protests.
Anybody donating to Actblue is a democrat, pure and simple. We know the left is pushing the lie that he was a republican.

Most of this is wrong.
At this point a lot this has been reported and the initial fake reports debunked.

He donated $15 to ActBlue through an email he received for a Voter Registration drive. He subsequently deleted the profile. (My theory is he didn't know who the sender of the email was associated with or someone else donated in his stead).
A few weeks later he registered to vote as a Republican.
He only voted once in and that was the PA General election in 2022. He did not vote in the PA Primary. So he could not have acted as a cross party spoiler.
He has never appeared in any Antifa protest. (that was a fake profile)
His classmates say he was Conservative and hung out with Red Hats (people in the US don't wear Trump hats unless they are MAGA, it's like a scarlet letter).
His profile, from wearing army fatigues to joining the gun club etc etc. is very conservative. Unless more information comes out that he had a recent change in ideology, it is clear he held Conservative views and was a Republican.

Seems you've been fooled once again or are purposefully spreading misinformation.

Judge Cannon just dropped the Trump Documents case citing that the Appointments clause used to appoint Jack Smith was unconstitutional.
This was the same appointments clause used to appoint Hunter Biden's Prosecutor, that got him a guilty sentence. And the Special prosecutor that investigated Biden.
And she did this all before the start of his convention.
What Serendipity (wink).
This will be appealed.

kkins25:
I told you sir..

Do you really think that makes your case?
Go through her feed, her life would be cancelled if Trump won.
And given that she seems intelligent, I am guessing she's either grifting(increasing her profile) or trolling.

budaatum:
Millions of Americans did just elect him once and voted for him a second time too, so history if you want, but I hope you're right and I'm wrong.

Before they knew who he was.
Feelings against him now are really set in.
Not sure how this changes the vote of people who really really dislike him. Or makes him any more a palatable person. And I may be wrong, but historically I don't think an attempted assassination has helped any candidate.
And I also think Trump can't help himself. So any sympathy he may have garnered would go away the minute he reverts to his old self.

The climate here is pretty hot. I hope people tamp this down somehow. If not, it looks like it may be a pretty brutal election season.

ufotunang:
...he is a democrate supporter and he hates trump

Wrong. The current reporting is that he was a Conservative who registered to vote as a Republican, who hung out with Trump Supporters. With the gun shooting, military fatigue he wore and gun club membership, it looks right now he was a real Conservative.

And you just don't hang out with Red hats (people who wear Trump hats) randomly. Red hats are pure MAGA.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/us/trump-rally-gunman-thomas-crooks-invs/index.html

Some more details.
He hung out with kids who wore Trump hats.

A third classmate, who asked not to be named, said that Crooks was very smart, took honors classes, and was shy. She said that he had a group of friends who were fairly conservative, some of whom would wear Trump hats.

Only voted once in the PA General Election as a Republican. Didn't vote in the Primaries as some suggested here.

Later that year, a week after turning 18, Crooks registered to vote as a Republican, according to a listing in Pennsylvania’s voter database that matched his name, age and address. Crooks only cast a ballot once, in the 2022 midterm general election, an Allegheny County spokesperson told CNN.

Both of Crooks’ parents worked as social workers, according to state license records. His father is registered to vote as a Libertarian and his mother is registered as a Democrat, state voter records show.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/us/trump-rally-gunman-thomas-crooks-invs/index.html

If this classmate is to believed, it seems like he was a Conservative in High School. With the army fatigues he wore in school, the t-shirt he wore the day of the shooting, shooting guns in Highschool and his gun club membership, it seems the picture may be getting clearer as to his political leanings. Time will tell.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/pennsylvania/thomas-matthew-crooks-trump-shooter-id-butler-20240714.html

budaatum:
Not after a shooter missed trump I don't think its just my own "not even an informed opinion" but the "not even an informed opinion" of millions of Americans who will now vote for trump.

I hope Biden wins.

Based on what? Is there a historical context you're basing this on?
Millions of Americans will just elect a man who they think is wholly immorally unqualified to be President because he was almost assassinated?
This is Aug. there are more than 4 months until the election.

Bemeruca. Here is a thread designed for the England game.
You don't have to pretend you live in the US and post about it in the US politics thread.
FYI. The US and UK are different though the share a letter.

kkins25:
Most other people would have collapsed and shut down. A bullet grazing you should be terrifying. He's not a trained personnel of the army or police force. So, I don't expect him to think to that extent. Even the SS folks with him didn't know what was happening. But, he, knowing America is more of "Showmanship" than anything else, saw the opportunity and took it. Not many folks would even think of doing showmanship talk more of thinking about other bystanders. the normal reaction would be flight,

That's not America. That's Trump and his MAGA base. Democrats respect people who gets things done over the fakeness. Trump is more fake bravado than actual get it done. And his bravado is belied by the fact that when he had the opportunity to serve and really show bravery, he said he had bone spurs in order to dodge the military.

But that's the difference innit. Real heros in that situation think about protecting and serving. And you don't have to be trained to think so. You just not have to be a sociopath and can about other people.

Some people run into a burning building to save lifes, others put their hands up and pose for pictures of it.

bemeruca:
England ooooo 😢 una no they win anything for us?

This is why I think you are broken mentally.
You are posting about an England match in a thread on US Politics. US. Not UK.
You need real friends around you. You clearly have none.

kkins25:
Why do you want the politician to do the job of the police force. Is there any politician who doesn't add showmanship to their strategy...

A real leader does. In fact the President is the head of the Executive Branch which enforces the Law.
Someone died. The shooter had explosives in his car.
The secret service had no idea what came next.
Not the time for showmanship.
The more I think about it, it's obscene. Someone is dying behind him and he's pumpin his fists in the air looking for his shoes.

I don't see any other President doing that.
That is Trump's brand, showmanship over everything else.
Not a good way to run anything.

LordAdam16:
https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/fecimg/?202102049425405473

The kid put a different city.

Input the mailing address in the form into your search engine.

-Lord

The $15 dollar donation wouldn't tell much either.
Say you buy say a T shirt for 35 dollars that says Vote on it as a gift for someone from an organization connected to a Political Group or Campaign, part of that purchase price may be in the form of a donation and would list the same way.
It doesn't mean you intended to donate to that group or are aligned with their philosophy, you just wanted the shirt or whatever.
Many possibilities for the donation.

Again, facts will come out.

Laurene:
my bad... I conflicted some things.
There's no need switching registration in open primaries.

MAGA innit.
We don't need them facts before correcting others.
We are experts on all things, in our own minds...

Lol..
This thread.

bemeruca:
he has nothing better to do. he is irrelevant. Ask budaatum. He is only talking because you guys are engaging him. I get bored trolling him which is exactly why I don't respond to him anymore. Just tell him he is irrelevant and don't engage him let him go back to the other threads he was posting on

Do you ever hear yourself. Do you think your life is normal? You spend your life here (you are here day and night), posting about Muslim hate and the UK in an American Politics Thread. The kicker you don't live in the US or the UK. Is that normal? And so, you lie about being in the US because you know you sound Nuts doing so.

Laurene:
That's why I don't bother engaging him... He's either a bot or a manifestation of decades of leftist indoctrination.

I can't call him a lib because liberals are smarter than leftists

I find the psychology of people lying about living in the US so interesting.

Laurene:
Besides you can't compare American with Nigerian elections... Never!
....
As a Nigerian, I care less about who wins US elections. They'll always work for their people unlike here in Nigeria where everybody is bought over even the judiciary.

You should worry more about starving to death, insecurities, etc in your own country.
Regardless, Trump and Biden's generation would continue to flourish. How about yours?

Laurene:
That's why I don't bother engaging him... He's either a bot or a manifestation of decades of leftist indoctrination.

I can't call him a lib because liberals are smarter than leftists

Are you still manifesting these posts from the Bronx?
Why does this thread attract so many NUTS who pretend to live in the US?

Laurene:
Bla Bla Bla! I have nothing to prove to you... You started bragging about sending me 100,000 naira that's why I had to promise gifting you 600,000 instead.
Do you even know what defamation is? How did I ever defame her?
I don't blame you lots over there, you guys behave like tyrants and have totalitarian tendencies... Your kind of leaders can attest to that.
I can give you my home address and postal code here in Bronx... Here isn't 3rd world shithole dictatorship bubble... There's freedom of expression, I guess you'll never know 😅...
From Buhari to Tinubu 😩
I'm done with you.

LordAdam16:
He is a troll.
He locks in on a st*pid tangent. When you shred that, he segues into something else.
You'll go round in circles, glance at the time and recognize you've wasted hours you'd never get back.

Then you have to stop conversing so he has the last word where he repeats the exact same falsehoods you'd eviscerated earlier.

-Lord

Stupid tangent, like bringing up voting for Haley in 2024?
Or Stupid Tangent like inferring maybe he did vote for Haley in 2024 because the voting records haven't been updated?
STFU

You are not smart enough to eviscerate any argument of mine.
Keep dreaming.

raumdeuter:
The fact most will agree is that you are dumb and very ignorant probably poorly educated too

Which is why your understanding is always lacking

It didn't take others long to understand but you can't understand and still don't understand

This has to be by far my favorite post of yours.

You argued for hours you had read the Ruling.
Then Argued for hours it said "X".
Then Argued for hours Justice Roberts said "X".
Until I pulled up the ruling and showed you Roberts said the opposite of "X". Lol

You are clearly Mr. Understanding.
I hail thee Mr. Understanding.
You and your Bullshitty MAGA Understandings.

Laurene:
That guy is very annoying as fk... Behaves like a troll

.
Tell me Mr. Laurence.
More or less like a troll than a man who pretends to be a woman who pretends to live in NY?

Laurene:
Open not closed

#Wrong.
He's actually right here for once.
Collect your win LordAdam16. You don't get many. lol

raumdeuter:
It's your lack of education that's shining through

Nikki Haley voters was a recent and popular example of crossover voters

But because your head is so far up your ignorant asss you cannot understand what you read which is why we continue to question if you went beyond 3rd grade

The problem is that as you write this you and I both know you don't even believe you are smarter than me.
It must suck forcing your fingers to write that, while knowing deep inside, you ain't nowhere on my level.

You remember how voraciously you argued this post below. Lol. And you did the same thing you are now, tried to lie about what you said.
Tell me more about not understanding what you read.