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Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 5:19am On May 31, 2024
LaRosa01:
I hate to tell the democrats,they would loss.i am nolonger a trump fan but if you have worked on political strategy,the first thing you must know is never put your opponent in a position of becoming a sympathy Candidate because sympathy votes are organic votes
Sympathy for? It was a jury trial. All 12 random people chosen with input from Trump's lawyers heard the evidence and found him guilty.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 3:18am On May 31, 2024
This is almost unheard of especially for a poltician.
This should tell you everything about this trial and if he slept with Stormy Daniels.

Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 11:27pm On May 30, 2024
Golan007:
You mean the entire jury was corrupt?

You mean they invented 34 charges?
grin
Trump just needed 1 juror. Not 1 of the 12 Jury members the defense helped select thought he was not guilty. Lawyers, Business People, Engineers, teachers, Men and Women. Not 1.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 11:25pm On May 30, 2024
feedthenation:
---Some MAGAs in action after the guilty verdict---

The symphony of mental illness.
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 11:23pm On May 30, 2024
SalamRushdie:
tongue tongue
Sending money to a convict.
Nothing could go wrong there. grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 11:16pm On May 30, 2024
These guys are brutal. Except for Judge Cannon and the Supreme Court, this should be higher.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 11:10pm On May 30, 2024
Say this slowly.

The presumptive nominee of the Republican party has been found guilty of committing 34 felonies, was held in contempt 10 times, in one of 4 cases he has upcoming, and will be sentenced 4 days before his convention to nominate him.

This is where we are in America.
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 10:46pm On May 30, 2024
I'm praying for the lives and safety of the judge, prosecutors and jury members.
It can't be understated they did their civic duty with the understanding they would most likely be targeted.
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 10:38pm On May 30, 2024
How it looks visually.

Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 10:37pm On May 30, 2024
Trump speaks after being convicted.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAdjyfY8hMs
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 10:34pm On May 30, 2024
Obrigardo:
There's certainly no path for him, he should just make a deal with the higher ups, and maybe flee to russia/hungary and drop out since there's no chance for him now, anyway. But stubborn Hydra headed maga and their cult leader will just choose doom and destruction.
Imagine his sentencing will be 4 days before the Republican National Convention. Lol.
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 10:33pm On May 30, 2024
Obrigardo:
There's certainly no path for him, he should just make a deal with the higher ups, and maybe flee to russia/hungary and drop out since there's no chance for him now, anyway. But stubborn Hydra headed maga and their cult leader will just choose doom and destruction.
There should be no path. But this is a cult!
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 10:27pm On May 30, 2024
When will the sentencing be?

Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 10:24pm On May 30, 2024
From the court. The trial wasn't aired.

Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 10:19pm On May 30, 2024
Wow. The Republican nominee for President is a convicted Felon.
Question is, will the Judge jail him?
Foreign AffairsDonald Trump is a Convicted Felon!!! Found Guilty by a Unanimous Jury! by ijebosb(op): 10:08pm On May 30, 2024
Trump has been found guilty on all 34 Felony Counts of Falsifying Business Records.
He has been found guilty by a unanimous jury of 12 of his peers.

I think the key here is that verdict had to be unanimous. So, 12 people that Trump's defense team helped pick, heard the evidence and found him guilty in less than 1 day.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 10:07pm On May 30, 2024
Trump Guilty !!!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 9:32pm On May 30, 2024
budaatum:
Sounds like you are rewriting it instead of telling friend what's wrong so friend rewrites it themself.
Was not trying to rewrite it, it's not my work and don't want to add my 'voice', but it's so poorly poorly written I'm not sure what they are saying at times.

But, you may be partially right. At this point, not worth editing it. I'm just going to tell them they should spend more time on it.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 9:14pm On May 30, 2024
budaatum:
You should read Hugh Thomas', The Slave Trade. Might make you see what's in somes DNA.
Will add it to my reading list. Meanwhile, my focused reading times is consumed editing a terrible book a friend wrote. Have to figure out how to tell them it's terrible.. angry
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 8:56pm On May 30, 2024
raumdeuter:
Any human who defends Hamas is a horrible animal. Who rejoice in their criminal terror activities.

That is why you are a dangerous hypocrite, who enjoys freedom of the West but will carry water for those who hate every way of life you enjoy

Walk your talk, Move to Gaza and join Hamas
You seem to be having a psychotic break.
Do you generally see terrorists wherever you look?

You words sound un American. The freedom you speak of allows me the ability to even criticize the US government let alone a foreign country that's not behaving like an ally. The spirit of our country, is that we criticize power or our government when we feel power or our government isn't being responsive to our will. That's the purpose of the 1st amendment. You seem to have been radicalized with some weird understanding of what it is to be American. You sound like a dangerous kook. And the type of person who would hurt a Palestine or Muslim living in the US. You are smearing a whole people with a terrorist brush, just as Jews were smeared during the Holocaust. You and the Jewish people are becoming the thing you say you hate all because you HATE.

Real talk, if my name was public here, I would sue you, wherever you are in the US, for libel.
Just to make a point.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 8:39pm On May 30, 2024
budaatum:
On Brown v Board of Education

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/the-washington-post/20240530/281865828603040
My views on African Americans changed when I took a class on African American History in college as an elective. I learned about Brown v. Board and the US's segrational history in High School. But it was a small part of the overall US history we studied. Studying it for a semester, learning things that weren't in High School textbooks, just the overall depravity that was visited on a people because of their color and understanding this happened less than 70 years ago, that it was recent history, so much so that there are people still alive that endured some of this stuff; it changed me and my perspective on African Americans..
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 8:31pm On May 30, 2024
raumdeuter:
When are your fellow terrorists, your Hamas brethren and other antisemite planning to release the hostages

Terrorist lover. Only fellow Hamas insane cowards like you will hide in daycares to be sending rockets to Israel

Take off your mask and own your anti semitism
This is who you are.
You are calling someone a terrorist, a terrorist lover, and an antisemite because you are too stupid to backup your views on the topic.
This makes you a disgusting person.

But, I already knew that. Black people who support Trump are generally bigots filled with self hate. And being equally stupid, rip their masks off when called out on their stupidity. Just like the white people who call black people "nigger" the minute they get upset.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 7:54pm On May 30, 2024
raumdeuter:
Don't be a coward, take of the mask and show yourself to be who you really are, A Hamas lover

Once again when you talk to your friends and release hostages then you can ask for ceasefire
You can do it.. Be consistent.
Call Trudeau an Antisemite, Jew killer, a Hamas lover and a terrorist as well. Same with Bernie Sanders.
They have the same position I do after all afterall.

Let your bigotry and lunacy shine.

But you won't because you know how stupid you would sound doing such. But you are comfortable doing it here day in and day out, because you think calling someone an Anti-Semite wins you an argument and shuts people down. It's the most mental midgets are capable of.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:59pm On May 30, 2024
raumdeuter:
You are a terrorist supporter

Tell your Hamas friends to provide the hostages

Is that too much to ask? Terrorist lover
Don't be a coward. Speak on Trudeau who shares the same views on this that I do.
Is Trudeau a terrorist supporter and terrorist lover? Are Hamas his friends?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 5:24pm On May 30, 2024
raumdeuter:
You posted map on countries who have recognized Palestine or recognize Hamas govt

When Canada joins them then you can update me
It seems dishonesty is a prerequisite for being a conservative in this thread.
You said anyone who supports a cease fire and/or a 2 state solution and/or criticizes Netanyahu is a terrorist, antisemite, terrorist supporter, Hamas supporter and wants to kill Jewish people. Because you stand by the morals of the west.. blah blah blah

Here are those western Values in Trudeau taking the same position as I have. He supports the ICJ, is calling for a cease fire and believes Netanyahu is responsible for the lack of a 2 state solution and wants a 2 state solution which means he recognizes the Palestinians should have their own government. I'm sure you know what a 2 state solution is.

Man up and call him a terrorist supporter, terrorist and someone who wants to kill Jews. You're an intellectually dishonest hack, bigot and lunatic.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 4:57pm On May 30, 2024
Raumdeuter, I'm sure you can find Canada on the map and I'm sure you consider Canada part of the "West".
I'm sure Trudeau and Canada along with Macron and France are terrorists and terrorist supporters as well?

Trudeau calls for ceasefire, supports the ICJ and blames Netanyahu for the lack of a 2 state solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfLaK8xQ0Hg
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 3:05pm On May 30, 2024
basilico:
What did judge do for the 4-4+4 rule? Like they dont have to agree on which predicate law voz broken but that a law was broken.
Say count 1
4 jurors say tax law was broken, 4 say falsifying business records, 4 say violation of federal election law . Makes it 12, count 1 was 'unanimous' because all jurors believe that one predicate law was violated.Mother Tetesa could be found guilty by merchan.

Secondly he didnt write down jury instructions. He read them. If they need clarification,they blow a dog whistle He rereads fir thrm them again. They should rely on the notes they took when these 55 pages of instructions were read to them.
https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People%20v.%20DJT%20Jury%20Instructions%20and%20Charges%20FINAL%205-23-24.pdf
Most of this post is a lack of understanding of NY Law and supplementing that lack of understanding by people willing to lie to you.
1.) Most of your questions would be answered if you read the jury instructions.
I pulled out some sections below.

2.) The jury instructions have been written down, as you have them and have linked them. By NY law, they are not given to the Jury. Nor are they given the witness testimonies. They have to ask for them if they want them. When they do ask, the Judge brings both defense and prosecution in to decide what they should get. In fact the Defense could decide to hand the jurythe the jury instructions. But, that's not beneficial to the defense, so they won't. This is all NY law and out of Merchan's hands. In fact Judge's usually lean toward the defense as they don't want the case to be overturned on appeal. Merchan has definitely been generous toward Trump in this case.

3.) Comparing Mother Theresa to Trump in a case involving sleeping with a Prostitute is beyond the pale even for degenerates like you. At the crux of this is the fact that Trump did in fact break the law.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 2:04pm On May 30, 2024
basilico:
[s][/s]
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Upto the last day he instructs jury to examine 3 laws that Trump may hav broken and does not need a unanimous verdict..(Im not 100% sure about this media reporting).
...
Imagine the dumbfuckery it takes to write/repeat something you aren't even sure about. You a lemming.
On the other hand it's probably good you are becoming aware that the propaganda places like the food writer you listen to generally lie to you.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 12:09am On May 30, 2024
basilico:
Ijebosb,

Justice Alito has rejected calls to recuse himself from jan 6 cases plus Trump's because his wife was the one who flies the flags,all sorts of flags and its within her rights.The property is jointly owned, she is an equal partner.

Meanwhile
The city of San Francisco has taken down an “Appeal to Heaven” flag that’s flown in its Civic Central Plaza for 60 years after the The New York Times described it as a “January 6 symbol” in a piece noting that it flew at a beach home owned by Supreme Court Justice Sam Alito and his wife.

Looks like there are very dumbed down people over there in America. The ones who never saw wrong with Frisco flying that flag for 60 years.
Or maybe some things don't matter unless it has to do with Trump.
Others are disinterested because banging white pussy is a priority and a yuuge achievement to them.
Bark . Woof woof
Reading the shit you post is tiresome. There's never any thought or depth to it. You just regurgitate propaganda as if you don't really have any core beliefs about anything and if you do, don't have the intellectual range to align them with what you read.

1.) Alito lied about the sequence of events. The neighbors called the police after Alito's wife harassed them weeks after the flag flew. The timing is memorialized by a Police Report/Call. The flag was put up around Jan. 17th, 3 days before Biden's inauguration.

There are some differences: For instance, the justice told Fox News that his wife hoisted the flag in response to Ms. Baden’s vulgar insult. A text message and the police call — corroborated by Fairfax County authorities — indicate, however, that the name-calling took place on Feb. 15, weeks after the inverted flag was taken down.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/28/us/justice-alito-neighbors-stop-steal-flag.html

If you did read Alito's letter and not whatever propaganda was fed to you, you would notice he didn't explain the purpose of flying either flags. For the upside down flag he tells the ridiculous story that his wife flew it, he no idea about it, yet when he noticed it took it down (why did he take it down if it didn't have a nefarious purpose?) He goes on to say his wife owns half the house so she has the right to fly what she wants. The same for the 2nd flag. Doesn't explain why, of all the flags in the world she flew that one and says that his wife bought that house. Now imagine, a Conservative Man's response to a controversy is that he can't control what his wife does even though it may affect his career. Esp. a Conservative man who is 1 of 9 unelected judges appointed for a lifetime. It's bullshit


2.) The meanings of Flags and symbols change over time if they are co-opted. Just like the swastika did. The swastika had a different meaning before it was adopted by the Nazi Party. Christian Nationals took over the Appeal to Heaven flag about a decade ago. And since then that is what it has been associated with. California has been flying that same flag for 60 years. I'm sure they weren't aware it had been co-opted by Chrisitain Nationals. Someone like Alito would be aware what the flag stood for as he is a Christian Nationalist and the progenitor of the movement saw him as his hope. He also had access to Alito's circle. Why else would they fly such an old rarely flown flag at their private residence? Coincidence. Don't believe in such. Esp. combined with the first Trumper flag.

In 2013, Mr. Sheets, a prominent figure in a far-right evangelical movement that scholars have called the New Apostolic Reformation, discovered the nearly forgotten flag and made it the symbol of his ambitions to steep the country and the government in Christianity, he wrote in a 2015 book also titled “An Appeal to Heaven.”
“Rally to the flag,” he wrote. “God has resurrected it for such a time as this. Wave it outwardly: wear it inwardly. Appeal to heaven daily for a spiritual revolution that will knock out the Goliaths of our day.”
...
But Mr. Sheets and fellow leaders described Justice Alito, the member of the court most committed to expanding the role of faith in public life, as their great hope: a vocal defender of religious liberty and opponent of the right to abortion and same-sex marriage.
From <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/22/us/justice-alito-flag-appeal-to-heaven.html>

3.) The bigger picture. What separates the US from the rest of the world are our courts. Courts that people believe in because of the belief in its fairness and it's impartiality. Alito is destroying that perception. It's all fun and games for you because you're incapable of real thought. You live in a Nigeria, where Justices are bought and corrupt and so justice is bought and sold. And by all accounts that's working out for you right? Yeah.. you can keep that bullshit there.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 11:57pm On May 28, 2024
bemeruca:
How is it that your boy is not bragging about banging white girls even if he is straight but a confirmed gay man like you who take pictures of empty bottles at a bar wants us to believe he smashes white women he hates so much 😂

On Nairaland, you can be whatever you want. How is your girlfriend doing? The one with an entire police unit guarding her apartment at Lagos?
One car at the gate to her apartment.
She's great, she flew in for my bday party. It's good to date someone who can do that...
Lol... You wouldn't know.

Don't hate anyone, everything just has its season. But, don't let that jealousy make you jump off a bridge now. Lol..

It's hilarious. Your daughter thinks she's white with freckles and you're worrying about my life? Nawa oo
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 11:51pm On May 28, 2024
raumdeuter:
Its a bigger honor to spend 24hrs online than to brag about smashing a white woman

WHo dented your self esteem so much that white women now became an achievement to you
I'm sure spending 24 hours online is more worthwhile than smashing any woman for you.
That's why you can average 4 hours a day here.

Holy shit, think about that. That is half the average work day, online...
You spend half the average work day here, doing what?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 11:31pm On May 28, 2024
bemeruca:
I should be jealous of a man who is at a bar taking photos of empty bottles while at the same time saying his boy who is older than is sending his daughter to Uni. Lmao. You are almost 50 years old but you have the mentality of a 17 years old boy
Must be jealousy to lie about what your eyes can clearly see. I understand lying is how you cope. Don't believe your eyes believe what Bemeruca's broken mind says. Whether it be lying about living in the US, or lying about bottles at my bday party. Lying and gaslighting seem to be your thing. And you're good at it. A lying crook seeking asylum in Canada.

My boy flew in for a couple of days and had the graduation lunch for his child. He'll be going to Yale. In a few years your daughter will have her own Only Fans page. Must be nice.

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